Guest Post: On New York Times Op Ed: "Let’s Give Up on the Constitution"

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Via Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

This New York Times Op Ed by Louis Michael Seidman, a constitutional law professor at Georgetown University, is one of the most absurd and dangerous articles I have read in a very long time. This guy’s incredible conclusion is that it is the Constitution of the United States itself that is causing all that ails the nation at this time.  Not once did I read about the Federal Reserve, or the “war on terror,” or the banker bailouts, or the complete destruction of the rule of law in recent years.  Nope, none of that.  Instead, this scholar’s conclusion is that the founding document, which created the fertile breeding ground for freedom and free markets and led to tens of millions of people to flee to from all corners of the globe, is the problem.

I suppose someone failed to remind Mr. Seidman that the oath of office for the military and those that hold political office continues to be:

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

As I have said for years, a key part of the macro agenda of the corrupt elite has been and continues to be the destruction of the U.S. Constitution.  While the Bill of Rights is already being dismantled behind the scenes, Mr. Seidman is part of the effort to “sell this”to the sheeple  as I noted in my article: Here We Go…Slate Magazine Bashes the First Amendment.  I expect more of this type of propaganda going forward.

From the New York Times:

As the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.


This is not to say that we should disobey all constitutional commands. Freedom of speech and religion, equal protection of the laws and protections against governmental deprivation of life, liberty or property are important, whether or not they are in the Constitution. We should continue to follow those requirements out of respect, not obligation.

The above paragraph is important for two reasons.  First, he picks and chooses what part of the Constitution he agrees with and then says those things are good and should remain.  More disturbingly, he then says we should defend freedom based on “respect not obligation.”  This is insane.  The reason the Bill of Rights exists is to enshrine the protection of civil rights under the law so that an authoritarian government cannot trample them.  Do you really expect government to protect civil rights out of “respect” if they are not obligated to by law?  Not a chance.  Then he concludes with:

But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance.

Full Op Ed here.

Please pass this on to every freedom loving American you know.

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Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:13 | 3117646 Diggintunnels
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Get active in local politics. Be prepared for rough times and outwork these elitist idiots in waking people up to what is happening to our republic.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 11:37 | 3118655 Calmyourself
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Sure that will work because the local press will give favorable coverage to local politicians who espouse freedom and self reliance? Ahh no.  Local press is comprised of the same sycophantic suck ups the national press is composed of it always amazes me that communties like ZH overlook the true issue, the press.  Without the willing allies in the press the statists like Seidman, Sunstein and others would never gain traction, demand real reporting from your local and national press and this all starts to change.  They are easy to influence go after their advertisers and explain you will not do business with crony's of the state.

It is the real weakness in all their plans their ability to publicize and influence through "journalism"

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:02 | 3117647 Blankenstein
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I assume that if the constitution is thrown out, the laws of the land will also go?  So Seidman's property is up for grabs as there are no property rights nor laws to prosecute those who take his property.  The Seidman types better be cafeful as to what they wish for.  There are consequences to idiocy.  

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:17 | 3117657 SmoothCoolSmoke
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This guy is a bozo.  But no more a bozo than those who would defend the Constitution by taking away this guys right to free speech.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:43 | 3117810 Temporalist
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He clearlyy thinks his "right" to free speech is archaic.  He doesn't want it so why let him have it?

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 04:02 | 3117949 zebrasquid
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The right to free speech ends when you are advocating disregarding the very document that granted that right.

They call it treason for a reason.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:20 | 3117663 They Tried to S...
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Extermination would be an appropiate outcome.....even with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.


Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:30 | 3117678 Diesel Seven
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A fucking academic bookworm. It's like a professed atheist serving as a pastor. Georgetown, what a fucking joke.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:50 | 3117721 F. Bastiat
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Quite pathetic, actually.  Who in their right mind could possibly take Georgetown or Harvard Law seriously with clowns like Siedman and Sunstein running around? 

Sunstein's book "Nudge", for example, steals a bunch of superstitions from the Communist Manifesto and then attempts to present them as profound scholarship.  It's complete nonsense.  At least Marx was creative - Sunstein's just a pseudo-intellectual thief.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:31 | 3117679 Jethro
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I don't think this is the scenario Voltaire had in mind when he said ,"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Voltaire was dealing with people who ostensibly had no other frame of reference other than subjugation. This "law" professor is from a free society, yet chooses ultimate slavery. May his chains rest lightly...

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:35 | 3117689 sun tzu
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Just remember who these guys are when the system collapses due to the elitists and their lackeys in the media. These sick assholes are going to start a civil war that nobody will win

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:36 | 3117690 PowerzThatB
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I picked this up from another blog regarding the elite who want to do away with our Constitution:

That’s a personal guarantee. Your unswerving loyalty to the Constitution does not protect me. It protects you. Because as long as you are sticking to the rules that we’ve agreed upon, I have to stick to those rules as well. The moment you decide to ditch the Constitution and start making up the rules as you go along, the rest of us will feel free to make up a few rules of our own. I can assure you that you won’t like them.

When might makes right, as surely it will when we have no Constitution to describe the limits of our government, I will take great pains to be among the mighty. Best for all concerned that we keep muddling along under the Constitution, alert for would be tyrants on either side who wish to exceed that document’s authority. It’s much safer that way.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 03:57 | 3117901 honestann
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Too bad that the person who said that is fictional.  Or if they are not fictional, they talk the talk, but where are those who walk the walk?  Answer: the predators-that-be and predator-class have gone over the line dozens if not hundreds if not millions of times.  Response?  All talk, no walk.

I question whether there are sufficient people still willing to face reality, not simply emit words.  Except the predators, of course.  They deal with reality all the time (as well as words, of course).

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:45 | 3117713 Bagbalm
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If you remove the Constitution there is no basis for having a Federal government except the exercise of naked power.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:04 | 3117753 The Joker
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There was a tribe in the Amazon that used to, when someone committed an offence to the tribe, strip them naked, insert a large wooden pole, carved from rubber tree, up their ass, hoist them upright, and march them round and round through the village while the pole slowly forced it's way inside and up the person until he died.  It was a slow, painful, humiliating death induced by a 5" diameter roughly carved pole shoved up their ass.  It sometimes could take up to a day for the person to die, but they marched him until he did. 

So, if the powers want to remove the Constitution, maybe we strip the powers naked and give them some sphincter exercise.  How's that for exercise of naked power?

Just a thought.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:31 | 3117787 F. Bastiat
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A nice deterrent, that's for sure.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:45 | 3117715 Seasmoke
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i ask again, how many Jews , were involved in writing the Bill of Rights ???

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:34 | 3117790 F. Bastiat
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They seem to be more occupied with manifestos and the like.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 02:10 | 3117850 Twodogs
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I dunno.  Were they allowed to?

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:47 | 3117717 holdbuysell
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Money shot right here (from the article):

"Our sometimes flagrant disregard of the Constitution has not produced chaos or totalitarianism; on the contrary, it has helped us to grow and prosper."

Seems he hasn't been keeping up on current events. Reminds me of this one, as the situation was on the cusp of rolling over:

"Subprime is contained"

Cue Kyle Bass:

“They’re not going to tell you that a collapse is coming. You’re going to have to see it for yourself. The government’s never going to tell you that it’s going to happen. These guys are never going to tell you the truth, because they can’t tell you the truth. Their job is to promote confidence, not to tell you the truth.”

I also keep in mind that he is just as conflicted as Krugman is as both are huge beneficiaries to maintaining the status quo of incarcerating students in the $1,000,000,000,000 debt bubble, which is also now popping.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:47 | 3117719 The Heart
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Well, we might as well give it up because these guys that are preparing to go house to house doing gun confiscations seem to have already got this in their heads. The American govt is about to declare war on it's own people. After all the mayhem and chaotic insanity, china will come in to clean everything up as agreed to, and then claim america's bread basket.

Listen to this Lieutenant speak his story on the Pastor Butch Paugh's radio show about what is coming. He says they intend on carrying through with it after the economic collapse. Darn sad to hear this and hopefully, it helps people understand what they might expect soon during some ungodly hours in the early morning.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:55 | 3117729 Sandmann
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Reads like a Lawyer who has realised the futility of Lawyers and Judges in making rules for living. He clearly indicates what a farce much Supreme Court decision-making really is - Roe v Wade could hardly be considered a "Constitutional" issue and yet the whole basis of Blackmun's previous role at the Mayo Clinic and the ability of the Supreme Court to strike down a Texas Statute rather than a Federal Law is an indication that Seidman feels this particular track has run its course and the Constitution cannot be any more elastic. In short much of the Supreme Court is a farce passing legislative issues to unelected judges chosen for their political affiliation - a sort of Privy Council in English terms legislating without regard to voters

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:56 | 3117732 Yes_Questions
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and Honey Boo Boo is TLC's mascot..




Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:59 | 3117734 newengland
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It is treason to undermine the Constitution, as this profiteer professor knows, but he does it anyway in order to serve his foreign ideas.

The biggest surge of immigration came to the U.S. from people fleeing tyranny in their homelands, and seeking the inalienable rights under the Constitution; rights no money whore or political expediency can revoke unless by force of traitors like this lackey profiteer professor serving his foreign aims and CONgress.

Who can seriously doubt that the power which a millionaire, who may be my employer, has over me is very much less than that which the smallest bureaucrat possesses who wields the coercive power of the state and on whose discretion it depends how I am allowed to live and work?


Beware of fancy words from fraudsters bearing the gift of their 'knowledge' and 'expert opinion'...all the better to make state slaves of the majority for the inner party, the chosen ones, as Orwell foretold in 'Nineteen Eighty Four', the socialist dystopia.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:59 | 3117741 williambanzai7
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One thing is certain, without the assent and will of the people, the piece of paper becomes meaningless.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 09:09 | 3118183 tip e. canoe
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consent is a concealed but critical concept.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:06 | 3117742 earleflorida
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Justice Ginsburg, not ready to retire or die... one way or the other-- they'll have to carry her out like Rehnquist? 

Obi will find a contemporary with the same mind set? Goyim's need not apply... unless of course, of african descent-- oops 

Ps. Roberts has some serious health problems!!!    jmo

Note: sorry,... just link through 'google search box'.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:01 | 3117745 orez65
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Mr. Seidman you are an embarassment to the human race.

I would think that your peers at Georgetown University would all be laughing at you, but I believe that they are all just like you.

Your article is just totally absurd, it is totally ilogical.

And you boast of 40 years of constitutional scholarship!

I'd like to remain calm and collected but:


Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:10 | 3117758 syntaxterror
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Definitely not giving up on printing money. It's toilet paper now, just like the constitution.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:12 | 3117759 Twodogs
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*Double post*

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:13 | 3117760 Ox
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Fuck these fucking fucks.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:16 | 3117767 W74
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According to the mooching class, real freedom is taking from those who work and giving to those who are too stupid/lazy to take care of themselves or who make (continually) poor choices in life.

Oh and being able to do it legally and without shame in their eyes.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 04:38 | 3117971 WTFx10
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Divide and Conquer,

Our culture has been trained to look down at those poorer than ourselves and scrutinize them more closely for such infractions on the slave work ethic. That way we aren't looking higher up the ladder to see who is defecating on us. It's a nice trick that works well for the owners and their minions.

You are a well trained slave, bravo. now jump through this hoop and suck my dick.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:19 | 3117770 earleflorida
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hmmm... judicial activism [living in the moment?] v. judicial restraint ["history does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" ! m. twain]

go figure...

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:22 | 3117773 Steverino
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What a fucking moron..

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:30 | 3117785 TahoeBilly2012
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The Left are on some bizarro/nazi kick that they just won the election, they are going to make the ignorant red necks like black people and also break their doors down and take their guns. The American mind control machine is running overtime on the big gang of idiot Liberals who think they are the open minded/big hearted team, when they are the new Fascists...just get them some outfits with rainbow colors, bullet proof. Sick world.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:37 | 3117797 devo
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Game. Set. Match.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:31 | 3117788 Ides of Marc
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PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CIRCULATE HIS EMAIL FAR AND WIDE!! In the case you'd like to write dear Professor Seidman your comments as well: Author of "Let’s Give Up on the Constitution"




Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:33 | 3117791 devo
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Fuck you, Seidman.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:33 | 3117792 Ides of Marc
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PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CIRCULATE HIS EMAIL FAR AND WIDE!! In the case you'd like to write dear Professor Seidman your comments as well:
Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:34 | 3117795 AgAu_man
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If one were to question the author's heritage publicly, that would be treated as racist and 'worse' (anti-Semitic), and the legal, media and economic wrath would be upon you.

Yet this piece of treasonous sedition will go without any such consequences.

Although both the former and the latter are wrong, the point is, this scandalous piece of media trash reflects the tragic state of the Union and its Deaf, Dumb and Blind citizens, and the level of corruption of its leaders, judiciary and law enforcement.

The Founding Fathers, Lincoln, FDR, Truman, Ike, JFK, and Reagan must be spinning in their graves.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:37 | 3117798 q99x2
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Michael Seidman that's called treason where I'm from. May the ghost of Jefferson be upon you.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:42 | 3117802 yogibear
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Krugman fits right in with these far left extremist.

Once they destroy the US some tyrant/dictator takes charge and kills off the very people that destroyed the country. The tyrant/dictator will behead or execute the far left liberals like Krugman. The dope smokers and sellers are executed as well.

And these far-left lawyers make for good target practice for the firing squads of the tyrants/dictators.

It goes from the extreme liberals to the extreme hardliners.

It happens all throughout history. 


Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:40 | 3117806 q99x2
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Arrest him. Somebody call the police.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:41 | 3117807 San Diego Gold Bug
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Ship this asshole back to Russia.............actually Russia would be to good for him.  Ship him off to Somalia where he will find out what happens when the rule of law and all ethics are thrown out the window!!

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 02:03 | 3117839 F. Bastiat
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Today's liberals love to claim that "liberty" exists in Somalia because there is no powerful, omnipotent, omniscient central government imposing its will over every individual, at every moment, at every turn.

It's quite an odd argument, actually - do they not understand that liberty is defined as the absence of coercion?

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 01:42 | 3117809 Manipuflation
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What power does the U.S. Constitution grant to whom and who or what does it limit?  What if only the 10th Amendment to the U.S. CONstitution were applicable?  Do you all recall that Bill of Rights venture?     

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 02:11 | 3117851 sbenard
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Much better idea: Let's give up on the New York Times!

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 03:04 | 3117892 Wakanda
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Done that.  I haven't seen that rag in years.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 02:34 | 3117866 DaveA
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Our Constitution is a corpse; the Progressives have already amended it to death. Specifically:

The 16th, which gave Congress the means to play Santa with the states and the people,

The 17th, which denied state governments their voice in Congress,

The 18th, which made Congress a nationwide enforcer of moral values (this Amendment is no longer needed because the Supreme Court allows "interstate commerce" to cover what is neither interstate nor commerce).

The 19th, which gave the franchise to people guided by emotion instead of logic,

And finally the 24th, which gave every welfare-sucking parasite the right to vote for a living.

I don't trust anyone alive today to fix the Constitution; it would be safer to break the country into 50 states and let them voluntarily regroup into at least two independent republics. Whoever takes DC inherits the national debt.

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