Gun Sales Background Checks Hit Record
A Fiscal Cliff "deal" that reduces GDP and squeezes the consumers; a Fed whose policies have forced massive capital misallocation away from growth investment and are leading to an unprecedented corporate "revenue cliff"; and now, in the aftermath of the government response to the Newtown massacre which threatened to curb the second amendment, we get this via Reuters:
- BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR US GUN SALES REACHED RECORD IN DECEMBER AT 2.8 MLN CHECKS - FBI
Because when everything is an unintended consequence, nobody has to take any responsibility for anything. And so the New Normal marches on.
More from Reuters:
The number of FBI background checks for U.S. gun purchases set a record in December, as the Connecticut school massacre prompted renewed talk of limits on firearms, according to new FBI data.
The FBI said it recorded 2.8 million background checks during the month, surpassing the record set in November of 2 million checks. The number was up 49 percent over December 2011, when the FBI performed a then-record 1.9 million checks
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I'd take range ammo over nothing to throw at them but rocks.
Ammo is in short supply because Gov't agencies are buying up millions of rounds. And I'm not talking about military and law enforcement agencies.
They are primarily buying up the 40 cal stuff, not the ar-15 ammo unless you have heard differently? What ammo other than 40 cal have you heard they are buying? Which agencies?
http://moneyrunner.blogspot.com/2012/09/who-does-government-intend-to-sh...
Thanks!
Pretty eye-opening, huh? Makes you wonder what our Gov't is planning to do to us.
Funny how this info was conveniently ignored in the lapdog MSM. Gotta keep the low-info voters dumb and stupid.
Good luck to them when it is their .40 hollow points up against .308. 5 to 6 million licensed hunters in just 5 states - TX, NY (yeah that NY), PA, WI, MI. I would be the majority of those hunters have at least one .308 rifle with a scope. Note that this does not include more southern states like TN, SC, KY, NC, WV.
.308. Reach out and touch someone.
Also there are at least 2 million CCW in FL, GA and AL. FL has over 1 million. You have to be pretty serious about the Second to get a CCW.
Out in the west, where those long canyon shots are made, those .308 are a bit puny.
They are primarily buying up the 40 cal stuff, not the ar-15 ammo unless you have heard differently? What ammo other than 40 cal have you heard they are buying? Which agencies?
5.56, 750 million rds,( DHS only) and EVERY DEPT in the Goobermint.
AND hot off the Presses.............the latest from the PRO GUN, Sumbag out of Las Vaeas AZ.
http://capwiz.com/gunowners/issues/alert/?alertid=62313366
Now that they've saved us from the phony fiscal cliff, look for non-stop coverage of this and who knows, maybe another mass shooting or 2 just to drive the point home. Feinstein has been working on a bill with her staff for over a year now, almost to the point where it could actually get passed.............Wouldn't want to waste all that effort, now would we?
Count on it getting passed. We just witnessed the repukes roll over on the fiscal cliff. They will roll over on guns too.
Sad, but likely true. Maybe this will lead to some real movement on secession in states like Texas? One could always hope I guess............................
In a way, the repubs really didn't have much they could do politically on the cliff stuff IMO, but on guns they may have some conservative democrats on their side too.
I still chuckle about seeing all the signs in Wisconsin and Minnesota before the election:
HUNTERS FOR OBAMA
Ha, I guess they really believed him when he said he thought the 2nd amendment meant something..........
Check out this DKos poll:
A total gun ban in the next 10 years?
YES! 3% 75 votes No. 89% 1862 voteshttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/21/1172661/-How-to-Ban-Guns-A-step...
I know right away when I hear someone say high capacity 'clip' that they have no fucking clue what they are talking about when it comes to firearms. Just some liberal moonbat spewing vomit from their pizza hole.
Unfortunately there are a lot of policy making retards who listen to that particular pizza hole.
That article paints a pretty clear picture of what we're up against. This will not end well.
But look at the poll. Even the DKos crowd is massively against a gun ban like Australia's. Any politicians who proposes such a thing, even as a starting point for less onerous legislation, are going to look like fools and tyrants to diehard Democrats, not to mention the rest of the country. That's encouraging.
Almost no hunter I ever spoke to understood anything about the 2nd Amendment. That is now changing, but there exists a large number of gun owners who are in denial about what a semi-auto ban portends for their firearms of choice. All they need to do is look at Australia for how badly it all played out for gun owners there. The prohibitionists are never satisfied, they always push for more.
One thing I will say--thus far, Obama has been a pretty good friend to gun owners considering what Bush Sr. and Clinton did.
"Ha, I guess they really believed him when he said he thought the 2nd amendment meant something......"
It's like every organization is full of retards. If you even did a little bit of homework you knew this fucker was a lying ass....yet people seem to think it's just the opposite.
No no no! This will be when the Republicans stand for something. They'll really draw the line on guns. NO WAY will they talk a big game, snivel and cry, and then roll over on a compromise for the "good" of the country. Republicans aren't like those shady Democrats, what with no morals and ever-shifting positions and the like. They will fight for what's right!
(sarc tag needed? Really??)
+ 1
(but always better to put the "/sarc" tag for us slow learners... :)
You're anything but a slow learner!
Dear Leader's spike-the-ball speech last night after the fiscal-cliff bill passed included a promise to work on gun control in 2013. This gun control push isn't going to go away any time soon.
As everyone continues to stock up on guns and ammo, don't forget to stock up on shelf-stable food and water, too. Another lesson that should be taken away from the history of central planning and government interference in economies is that there are food shortages, too.
Gonna be interesting when the confiscation starts
if dems in house and senate get their way it will be soon in IL-NO GRANDFATHERING. and it's no suprise it starts in the state that will be the first to go belly up financially
There's just that miniscule wrinkle about ex post facto law and all the case law around it.
And Heller and its progeny...
Laws - they don't need no stinkin laws. ;-)
Obama can just sign exec orders on Air Farce One.
Because they are going belly up financially is why they need confiscation. Unarmed starving people are easier to manage.
Nah. When they pass the laws and start out with voluntary turn-ins followed by prison time for those who don't most will just bend over and take it. They are banking on that at least. They figure why would someone put his whole family and very life itself in jeopardy just to keep his guns. Let's face it, many would think that way. And the ones who don't.....welll we do have drones active within our borders now, don't we?
these are the times that try men's souls.
Agree.
But, these are times that most men, may try to FIND their souls.
Let us all, envision success, we'll need such.
Lost all mine in a landslide, and my phyzz in a boating accident.
I'd guess that they'll torture me, but conditioning can be a bitch(ez).
If at first you don't secede, try, try again.
these are the times to try burying a gun.
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/wood115.html
Actually this is far from the case. When CA issued their AW ban, compliance was about 30% or so.The CA ban resembles Comrde Feinstein's wishlist (required fingerprinting, registration, etc.)
I suspect that they're banking on a similar reaction -- namely that the gun disappear from use. Remember, all they care about is appearances and not effectiveness. (Considering long guns of all types are ~4% of the firearm murder stats, this point is painfully clear.)
My new theory is that they may be trying to use firearm violations as a replacement for drug violations to keep the prison system full, since it's pretty clear they'll be losing marijuana offending cell occupants like crazy over the next few years. We can only hope the reset hits before any real traction happens here.
Yes, on both of your interesting points. They will NOT round up many guns (semi-autos, for the moment) if they go for a confiscation, but who would risk taking their ARs or AKs to the range if they are banned (as opposed to a new sales ban). They will NEVER get the deer rifles, etc.
Your idea re filling the prisons with gun law violators is new to me, but seems very plausible. I agree that marijuana law violations leading to jail time will be ending soon. They have to fill those cells though... What better scapegoats than "dangerous gun owners"...?
Deer rifles and high powered scopes capable of consistently making over 300 yard shots will be on the list eventually. Prior to that they will want to ban what could be construed to be "sniper training". If they push more people into long range shooting, they may regret it. The Statists know no bounds. And if you buckle to any registration, confiscation edicts, expect your testosterone level to drop to zero with permanent adverse consequences to your love life. Just have somebody tattoo "RAPED BY THE STATE" on your forehead.
these for-profit prisons are really troubling-they pay(campaign contributions) the judges to keep them supplied with a steady cash-stream of inmates. it is one of the most troubling aspects of recent years(and that's saying alot)
Lying to a federal officer is a crime. That's what got Martha Stewart. Saying nothing is not a crime. Don't Talk to Cops, Part 1 - YouTube Don't Talk to Cops, Part 2 - YouTube
I am glad I live in Texas.
If one does not comply with a confiscation scheme, then one is under no legal obligation to admit to owning any illegal firearms. That's already been upheld as a violation of one's 5th Amendment protections. In other words, it has already been upheld by the courts, that criminals do not have to admit to owning weapons they are not allowed to possess; that's self incrimination.
Passing the law is easy... enforcement - not so much...
http://www.naturalnews.com/038521_Illinois_concealed_carry_gun_control.h...
when it's all over the only thing you'll be allowed to keep and conceal will be a flintlock pistol
Yeah, the court gave the state time to craft a new law that would be reasonable.
What part of shall not be infringed do they not understand?
I don't care if it is reasonable or not.
If you have to ask the government for permission, you are not exercising a right.
pods
Terriffic Point: Our rights did not come from the State, so no permission should be required. Hovever, notice how the 2nd Ammendment gets painted into a corner with registrations, background checks, CCPermitting, etc. Good Quote:
“Unjust laws exist: shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once?” – Henry David ThoreauI've been practicing speedloading of my Uberti 1858. (Remington cap and ball piece)
So far it's not going very well. It is a straight shooter, but after 6 shots you're all done.
Let's hope it doesn't come to this.
Prepper economy is all that's left.
Buy a gun...only for the government mandated buyback.