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Happy New Year Germany: Greece Needs A New Bailout
When it comes to the main sovereign story of 2011 and 2012, namely the endless bailout of Greece, now in its third iteration, the conventional wisdom is that courtesy of the near elimination of the country's private sovereign debt and the fact that its official foreign debt held by benevolent taxpayer funded globalist powers (IMF, ECB, EFSF) has been mostly converted into a zero-coupon, perpetual piece of paper, the country is fine. After all it has no debt interest expense to finance, and the only shortfall it has to plug is that created by its primary budget deficit (which as we showed earlier is "improving" on a year over year basis not because the economy is improving, but because the Greek government is simply refusing to pay its bills). So there is nothing more to do but sit back and wait while the economy slowly recovers, the unprecedented internal imbalance with Germany is gradually aligned, are the unemployment rate drops, (while hoping that the population does not die out first) right? Wrong.
What everyone is forgetting is that the heart of the Greek problem is not the Greek sovereign debt, and certainly not the rate of interest, but the fact that Greece's financial system, i.e. its banks, are utterly insolvent: and with the private banking system no longer creating money by handing out loans to a just as insolvent broader population (and the ECB certainly no longer injecting direct liquidity into the Greek economy) there is little that supports any form of economic growth (the Austrians out there will immediately recognize the problem: if money is not being created, the economy is not "growing", period). After all there is a reason why of the countless billions in Greek bailouts, of which the majority was used primarily to fund interest and maturity payments to other banks such as Deutsche Bank, the biggest portion that remained on the ground in Greece never made it to the actual people, but served to prop up the Greek banks, some €50 billion.
What was this money used for? Simply said, to plug capitalization shortfalls arising from one of two things: i) a gigantic outflow of deposits from the local banking system, as Greek lost all confidence their money was safe in the local banks, which meant Greek banks had to promptly find the money to pay their depositors lest a countrywide bank run developed which would then result in a Europe-wide financial panic, and ii) the soaring notional amount of non-performing "bad" loans, which remained as placeholders on the bank balance sheets, market at whatever mythical number the local accounts let the banks mark them at, but which generated zero inbound cash flows. Which, incidentally, would mean that deposits were undercollaterialized, and the realization that NPL levels are stratospheric and going higher, would lead to i) and the appropriate dire consequences.
Which brings us to the topic of today's post.
Moments ago Kathimerini reported that in 2012, the amount of non-performing loans has exploded by a laughable amount, rising some 50% from December 2011, when it was "only" 16% and stood at a gargantuan 24% last month (indicatively, in the US this would mean that some $1.7 trillion in loans was nonperforming). And therein lies the rub, because as Kathiermini prudently notes, the "bad loans come to a considerable 55 billion euros. This means that the sum of NPLs already exceeds the total funds set aside for the recapitalization of the local credit system, which amounts to €50 billion."
Oops.
This means that not only every single euro allotted for the bailout of the Greek banking sector has been used up to plug a gaping NPL shortfall, but already Greece is €5 billion short.
Sure enough, the last thing Kathimerini would want to do is give people the impression that, once again, their deposits are effectively impaired with the soothing proclamation that "there has been a notable improvement in economic conditions that is reflected in the significant slowdown in the rate of creation of new bad loans."
So 16% to 24% is a slow down? Maybe the fact that Greek unemployment is rising at "just" 1% of total each month is also a "notable improvement."
No, we doubt Kathimerini would be so audacious to proclaim the above chart of Greek unemployment as "notably improving". But that's a problem, because the level of NPL, the level of unemployment, and the general state of the economy (whose Q3 GDP imploded by 7.2%, the worst quarterly drop following a 6.7% GDP decline in Q1, and 6.3% in Q2) are closely linked, and one can't improve without the other. And usually the catalyst the drives an overall bounce in the economy is some endo- or exogenous source of money demand and creation (usually for nations in depression it involves war).
Absent that, there can be no improvement.
Which, following the preceding optimism, is precisely what the Kathimerini author admits: "However, unless the growth of new NPLs is contained, banks may need yet another recapitalization process at the end of 2013, the same sources say."
In other words, dear Germans, the country that you, and everyone else, though is now saved and needs no more bailouts, at least according to the current Finance Minister, not the previous one who now it appears was avoiding paying his taxes like the plague (ah yes, the Greek tax collections "issue" - a fun topic for another day), is already down €5 billion and in need of bailout Number 4.
Expect this news to be sprung on a witless Germany in the coming months, but most likely not before the Merkel reelection. After all the last thing Germany needs to understand is that the hundreds of billions "invested" to preserve the Eurozone have achieved precisely nothing, and the gaping black hole is bigger and blacker than ever before.
But at least the hedge funds who bought worthless Greek bonds at 15 cents on the euro and made three times their money in three month, are happy.
Everyone else, i.e. the Greek people, good luck. For the fourth time.
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YAWN. Pull it already.
+1 balls
and please someone lose the buddah spam poster
thanks
This time please make it a really BIG2 bailout.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044450600457761738313200047...
Illegal Immigration Emerges as New Crisis for Greecefunny how illegal immigration and broke governments go together....it is because private economy demands less taxes via cash under the table
2013 is the year that France undeniably joins the PIIGS land.
So does that make the "P" silent in PFIIGS?
nah that will just make French PIIGS :-)
We Greeks are getting thirsty again.
We wish to drink your milkshake, Germany, so please pass the straw.
Did anyone else hear the voice of Mr. Panos reading out the article title in their head?
I'm glad I wasn't the only one. That felt weird for a bit.
Do as you're told and shut up. ;)
Damn, Greece needs a bailout? Didn't see that coming.
they've managed to drag this out for a whole year.
europe finally getting a taste of euro UNION and socialism.
Wait... wait...
Silverstein needs to pick up some more Greek default swaps first...
I'm glad somebody got it....
Pull what? My finger?
Sure. Go right ahead, be my guest.
....and it´s gone.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TlPo0yCSa4
Greece is occupied by banksters.
My heart goes out to those poor folks.
The bloodsuckers are draining them dry.
http://www.angrysinner.blogspot.kr/2013/01/yesterday-dragon-lady-served-hormel.html
They voted them in.
If marxism is the road to hell.....we're all for it.
From Schiff, excellent rant.
http://www.europac.net/media/video_blog
He had better be careful... with all those veins popping he might suffer an aneurysm.
OT... May I wish Hillary's sadly dissolving bloodclot a speedy recovery...
Bill's taking time off from humping at his Harlem office to stay home now and change her diapers and feed her strained bananas.......he thinks she will be ready for a run for the Whitehouse in two years.
hillary is already 65. too old.
democrats getting rising star elizabeth warren ready to take over obama as 1st women president.
Too bad Warren's an idiot--she's already reached the peak of her career as a junior Reid flunky.
Peak idiocy
She would also be our first Cherokee president :-P
democrats getting rising star elizabeth warren ready to take over obama as 1st women president.
Please tell us you left off the /sarc!!!
Nice rant, but really like 6 mos ago thinking. Schiff knows whats up, berating the goofballs in DC has no bearing on anything. If you don't get it by now, go back to msm. Get real stuff is the message. Depending on your level, that means different things. Tyler has laid it all out ad nauseum infinitum. He is not telling you lies. If you think he is, and you have been here for more than 6 mos. then just forget it. Go buy some earplugs, and go to the yahoo FB message boards.
That said, if it is your first day of venturing out beyond American Idol, you need to pay attention to what he is saying. And if you are marginal and in a death spiral state, go somewhere better is my advice, you will be glad.
I like Schiff. I wonder if he is in as big of a state of disbelief as I am in their ability to keep this ponzi going this long.
I have no doubt he is in disbelief at how painfully long this has gone on.
What ponzi??????
kito we ard clearly bored and rigamortis is settling in. u gotta spice it up with a turkey sandwich offer or something.
Ok fonz, I bet you a sandwich that no country leaves the euro this year, the Dow breaks its all time high this year, gold doesn't break 2000 this year, the u.s doesn't get downgraded, the dollar finishes above 80, and that housing jumps at least 3 percent yoy.......
Oh, just buy him the sandwich...
i would not touch any of those. I think they are all solid calls. bah nevermind with the sandwich. i think central planning is in firm control this year.
you seem solid on 2015 being the year shit happens. why is that?
I read the Harbinger. 2015 is the year. Read it. You will understand..........
"may need yet another recapitalization process at the end of 2013"
Yawn. They don't even have to attempt to kick the can for about 10 months. This is a non-story.
This is a lot like watching paint dry, only without the inebriating fumes.............
Paint dries about a million times faster than this shit is coming off...
I believe you measure the decay of this shit in half-lifes, with scientific notation.
How many 10th thicknesses do we need to attenuated this?
mehr EUR bitte Mutte
A recap at the end of 2013? That's like, light years away. BernanQE and DrahQE will invent some new maths and all will be well.
Total unexpected. Really... Nobody could've seen that one one coming. Nobody!
Well, at least we can be sure the next bailout will work just as expected. After all, the next time it will certainly be different.
infuckenteresting
Like I said earlier.. It's Europe's turn for a couple of months. At least until Groundhog Day.
Central Bank hot potato game. Professionals only.
Let them print Euros to cover. After all it's just paper and ink.
Debts are never going to be re-paid in Ponzi World.
No amount of bailouts can save Greece. The bailouts are simply money given to Greece to pay to european banks to service rescue loans already made.
Greece as an economic entity is dead. It will stay dead as long as it must service debts it can not repay. Iceland would be a basket case if it had to service the debts it's banks wanted to force onto the soverign taxpayers. They refused and the economy recovered in a few years.
Greece is dead. Spain is dead. Italy is on the way to die. The money printing UK is still alive and kicking and printing the pound like bloody mad. The day the printing stops, the UK implodes into collapse and street riots. The Midlands burn in one night. London holds out as government troops are called in to shoot looters, but in the end a million rioters win out and burn Chelsea to the ground taking mass casualties in to process. Finished there they take the dock lands transit trains to Canary Warf and start burning financial insitutions to the ground.
Sort of like that movie Weekend at Bernies and Greece is Bernie.
Iceland, really?
http://studiotendra.com/2012/12/29/what-is-actually-going-on-in-iceland/
You forgot to mention France.
waiting for Newtown in global scale
If only they had seen the wisdom of a reverse income mortgage, none of this would have happened!
Yawn. Wake me when the guillotines come out
This is getting ridiculous. When is everyone finally going to realize we just need to redefine math and it all goes away. Although at this rate they better hurry up
What? They already did that. What do they need to hurry up for? The RUT is at all-time-highs!
2+2=5. Done.
I didnt think I'd ever get sick of these Greek stories, but...
Circle + Circle = Square
Waterboard the whole of congress. I bet we could uncover some terrorists there!
Take out the Pauls, throw in Piers Morgan!
The Troika has intentionally ignored the Greek people. The Greek people, in turn, are ignoring them by pulling out their money and not paying any taxes. What happens when Amerikans figure out the same?
As long as there are people who insist that Greece has to be part of the EU, there is gonna be an unfilled rat hole to throw money into.
Let me the first one to say it: I don't give a $hit about any European country that starts with a letter G. They deserve each other.
I can feel the empathy your emoting for non-G European countries bubbling beneath the surface of my internet viewing device!
that's what the euro technocrats say too...they don't give a crap about any European countries, to wit the people...splintering of the countries and people's lives, livelihoods and savings be damned so long as a unified currency remains intact
Greece = busted:
They borrowed to buy fuel, they borrowed to buy cars ...
They borrowed to pay off old loans, then borrowed to service them ...
They borrowed to build roads, then borrowed to pay for insurance.
They borrowed to build places to drive besides gas stations.
They borrowed to build military infrastructure for a war they cannot afford to fight ... they would have to borrow.
They borrowed to put on empty spectacles for US TV and to line their beautiful beaches with ugly concrete boxes that provide inedible food and toxic 'beverages' to fat, angry Germans.
As long as there is a car running in Greece it will be downhill until people are starving to death in the middle of Athens ... coming soon.
For Greece there remain the old things that served the Greeks well for centuries: agriculture, craft and artisanship, good food and wine, singing and dancing, poetry and theater. The rest is best left to rot, one way or the other it will be.
Light entertainment? Hang bankers and tycoons.
Fack - who can blame them? If some stupid banker would lend me 500M knowing I could not pay it back - I'd take it too... and I'd go facking NUTS!!!!
Well it is the first time Greek problems have been mentioned this year, so it can't be that bad....
Japan is about to cash in it's US dollar holdings to support it's existence.
How long can the US keep borrowing more money to pay it's obligations?
Sure it can print and it is printing.
How long before other countries begin to realize their throwing their money away by holding US dollars? The US is the elephant in the China shop.
yogi please support that statement about japan cashing in it's US dollar holding. I always wondered if that would happen but see no evidence of it.
That's, like, his opinion, dude.
The idea is ridiculous. There must be other buyers who can buy that stuff from Japan and if the willing buyer instead buys fewer new US-T's the rest will be bought by primary dealers who by law must buy all unsold US T's.
So even if Japan did that, it wouldn't matter at all (except that it would reinforce what we already know about the Ponzi nature of government bonds).
If they tried to do that the US worships would be in Tokyo harbour with their guns to the head of Abe.
I thought everyone knew that this was how things worked? For instance, did we not all know that the oil sheiks are allowed to fuck blond slut/whores... take coke and E... buy Rolls Royces and live like absolute cocksuckers - AS LONG AS MOST OF THE OIL REVENUES THEY RECEIVE GO TO BUYING US DEBT/WAR PLANES/US BUILT SHOPPING MALLS/AIRPORTS ETC...
Really - I thought everyone knew that.
Now can you imagine if the sheiks said 'sorry we don't need anymore empty malls and we'd like to cash in our US notes'
They'd be Saddamed in short order
Adjusted for GDP that would be a $4.5 trln bank bailout in US.
Greece government said that they reduced debt by 20 bln EURO through the recent bond buyback, but now the greek banks, who took the haircut need suddenly 55 bln EURO. What a scam.
It's hard to say where things will first escalate in 2013 (or else in the coming years). It seems it can happen anywhere anytime. Economies are all interconnected, once the shit starts hitting the fan the whole globe will be covered in it.
Yeah timing is a bitch. The operative word in the article is cashflow. Mark-to-market is dead for every asset and will be forever. The time for the crash will be determined by cashflow.
A squeaking Greece gets the weal.
There will be some sort of backdoor bailout to get Greece through German elections.
http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/sp-lifts-rating-on-greece-t...
Ever get the feeling you were part of an experimental test of some economic theory?
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Is this where Berbanke really got the idea to re-inflate assets? Could we call the experiment falsified in Greece's case?
Or does the theory only apply to Sovereigns printing their own doe-ray-mie?
Oh, ... so that's the real solution? ... that Greece should print its own, to short circuit the spiral?
Because inquiring Greeks want to know?
Surely if MMT works so well (in theory), then leaving the Euro is a no-brainer here, right?
Right? ... all you keen printers out there in Central Bank fantasy-land? ... Right?
</crickets>
... and the band played on ...
OK that financial assets can be propped up indefinitely since they are now under total control of banksters. But when the ATMs stop dispensing cash and pensions are not paid out, or alternatively the money is dispensed but can't buy enough basic consumables, what happens then?
The next few years will see the following concepts gain importance:
Crossholdings, buybacks, cashflow
The first two allow the bubble to be inflated, and the last will be what pops it
Merkel, LM AA!
Inside joke in German, known as The Limburger Greeting. Having to do with licence plates.
Notice how comments are not allowed on this article on the NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/opinion/lets-give-up-on-the-constituti...
How to Build a Matrix - rule one - make sure the masses are unable to correspond and share ideas that might bust the Matrix.
Wonder when ZH will be blocked by the US as a 'financial terrorist propagator'
Genie get back in bottle.
Theres a good chap, please..
Brothels, Drug decriminalization, Gaming...all things that will help the economy in greece. Maybe some olives with a x pill in it, you know get greek with it. Sex Tourism is pretty big and Riga is getting pretty played out. I think Greece should be the new hot spot. I always wanted to get some Greek in Greece.
Can California somehow get the Germans to pay for day to day living. They seem like nice people.
They already donated 1536 tons of gold to the US, how much more do you need?
Of course it's endless, what do you think ?
"Bailout" is the law of the prophets
Happy New Year Germany: Greece Needs A New Bailout...For anybody to make such a slanted, machiavellian heading for his post here at ZH would be an insult to our intelligence. So the gist of the article is tongue in cheek; second degree humour-noir. Otherwise this would not be ZH.
Its NOT Greece that needs a further bail out, its the Banksta cabal that is using Greece sovereign melt down as a roach motel to fleece Eurozone's remaining riches; using their surrogate banking networks all over the world.
All the money handed out by the Troika to Greece ends up in the pockets of the Banksta cabal; we all KNOW that; 90% of it at least, the rest is used to pay the government deficit to maintain Greece's population literally in bare back survival mode. Slave labour now coming to CLub Med world.
And then to rest of first world as part of the great neo-feudalista reset of Oligarchy world.
Don't cry for me Argentina, I belong to the Squid harem of fiat bonfire of vanities.
So sings Greece and so cry all of us.
An American investment banker was taking a much-needed vacation in a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. The boat had several large, fresh fish in it.
The investment banker was impressed by the quality of the fish and asked the Mexican how long it took to catch them. The Mexican replied, “Only a little while.” The banker then asked why he didn’t stay out longer and catch more fish?
The Mexican fisherman replied he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs.
The American then asked “But what do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman replied, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siesta with my wife, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos: I have a full and busy life, senor.”
The investment banker scoffed, “I am an Ivy League MBA, and I could help you. You could spend more time fishing and with the proceeds buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats until eventually you would have a whole fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to the middleman you could sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You could control the product, processing and distribution.”
Then he added, “Of course, you would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City where you would run your growing enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But senor, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”
“But what then?” asked the Mexican.
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich. You could make millions.”
“Millions, senor? Then what?”
To which the investment banker replied, “Then you would retire. You could move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”
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replace Mexican with Greek or Spanish, I used to go there on holiday 30 years ago, happy people, simple wholesome lives...........then greedy fucked up head fucked money printing bankster cunts got involved and sold them a bullshit dream based on pretend money............now its time to go back to the start......i hope they have learnt a big lesson......good luck Greece XXX
Meh. We're all friends in Europe now, so who's counting. /s
German Bank Regulator Inhibiting Free Movement Of Capital In Europe
http://www.germanywatch.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/german-bank-regulator-inhibiting-free.html
Nice fiction blog.
Look no further than the U.S. to find a shitload of structurally insolvent banks. Have bank failures here really subsided? No. There are still a ton of banks with NPAs in excess of 100% of tier 1 capital. And scads of them with NPAs in excess of 50% of tier 1. They can do nothing but hemorrhage. Why are these zombie banks not shuttered? For the same reason that bread lines no longer exist...
The problem is not money, its philosophy. Politicos the world over spend every dime they can get their hands on, whether its by taxes, regulatory confiscation, ZIRP/NIRP, or politically-connected lending, until its gone. Every dime.