Replaying Chris Christie's Epic Anti-Boehner Meltdown

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Earlier today, in what can only be summarized as an epic meltdown, NJ governor Chris Christie proceeded with an even more epic rant against House speaker John Boehner, in narrow terms, and House Republicans in broader, for killing the $60 billion Sandy Assistance bill, whose funding would have offset one full year of the just legislated tax hikes on the rich which would add $62 billion annually to the Treasury (or alternatively would have been unfundable for the next 2 months while the US struggles to pay its mandatory bills courtesy of having breached the debt ceiling). Alternatively, all Americans could just agree to accept less welfare and entitlement benefits to show their solidarity for New Jersey and fund the recovery of the Tristate area by a "shared sacrifice" instead of going the default route and demanding even more deficit spending - something that would naturally saddle the next generation with even more pain, not the current, far more entitled one - but in this country that is an absolutely ludicrous proposition. Below is a clip of the entire Christie performance which is a must see for sheer indignation entertainment value alone.

While we understand Christie's frustration and escalation in what is obviously a personal vendetta between the two men, as so often happens, much was left unsaid. For example the fact that the proposed bill was also chock full of pork spending such as:

  • $150 million in funding for fisheries in Alaska,
  • $5.3 billion to the Army corps of engineers,
  • $56.8 million for charting the debris from last year's Japanese tsunami,
  • $41 million for eight military bases including Guantanamo Bay
  • $100 million for the federal Head Start day care program,
  • $188 million for new Amtrak lines (not repair, new lines)
  • $20 million for a nationwide "water resources priorities study", 
  • $4 million for the ... Kennedy Space Center?

And others. Some more from the Weekly Standard:

One of the big objections to the bill was that Senate Democrats had filled it with pork.

 

In fact, "Democrats expanded the legislation during a mark-up to include not just areas affected by Sandy, but also to provide money for 'storm events that occurred in 2012 along the Gulf Coast and Atlantic Coast within the boundaries of the North Atlantic and Mississippi Valley divisions of the Corps that were affected by Hurricanes Sandy and Isaac,'" we reported previously.

 

The expansion of the bill was a way to provide a financial incentive for senators from red states--"two Republicans senators from Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas, and the one Republican senator from Louisiana"--to vote for the bill. "The Sandy kickbacks provide an incentive for those Republicans to vote on the bill," we wrote.

Yet, the war may already be lost by Boehner. The Hill reports that the first thing sacrificed by Boehner is what he prized himself in most: one-on-one talks with Obama - those are now over.

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is signaling that at least one thing will change about his leadership during the 113th Congress: He’s telling Republicans he is done with private, one-on-one negotiations with President Obama.

 

During both 2011 and 2012, the Speaker spent weeks shuttling between the Capitol and the White House for meetings with the president in the hopes of striking a grand bargain on the deficit.

 

Those efforts ended in failure, leaving Boehner feeling burned by Obama and, at times, isolated within his conference.

 

In closed-door meetings since leaving the “fiscal cliff” talks two weeks ago, lawmakers and aides say the Speaker has indicated he is abandoning that approach for good and will return fully to the normal legislative process in 2013 — seeking to pass bills through the House that can then be adopted, amended or reconciled by the Senate.

 

"He is recommitting himself and the House to what we've done, which is working through regular order and letting the House work its will,” an aide to the Speaker told The Hill.

 

The shift could have immediate ramifications as Congress heads into its next showdown over raising the debt ceiling and replacing steep automatic cuts to defense and domestic spending that are now set to take effect in March. It will also impact other presidential priorities like immigration reform and gun control.

 

Republican lawmakers say they expect the House majority to draft and pass its own debt-ceiling proposal, which would then add pressure on the Democratic leadership in the Senate.

 

For Boehner in particular, it will be easier said than done.

What this means is that the debt ceiling debate, which culminates in 59 days, is now open for everyone, and as a result the compromise will be that much more difficult.

Boehner and his aides have said the Speaker remains committed to a principle he first articulated in 2011 — that any increase in the debt limit must be accompanied by spending cuts and reforms that exceed the amount of new borrowing authority.

 

The Speaker is also expected to resist Obama’s push for another increase in taxes to offset the restoration of spending cuts from sequestration. “As far as we're concerned, the tax issue is off the table,” the Boehner aide said.

 

Conservatives, however, are likely to want even more.

 

“I’m looking for dramatic and drastic spending reductions,” Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) said Wednesday.

 

The influential editorial page of the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday urged Boehner to “from now on cease all backdoor negotiations and pursue regular legislative order.” Linking to the article, a top adviser to Boehner posted on Twitter: “That’s the plan.”

 

Another aide cautioned that Boehner is not cutting off all contact with the president. "It doesn't mean the Speaker isn't going to meet with the president or talk to the president" when appropriate, the aide said.

 

Duncan said he was encouraged by Boehner’s commitment in recent days to return to “regular order,” saying it was imperative that the House not simply accept bills driven by Democrats in the White House and the Senate.

If anything, the sudden change in Boehner's MO will simply mean that it will be more complicated to mask the fact that when it comes to spending and deficits, the two parties are really one. But if it does indeed lead to more openness and transparency at least the myth of a more democratic process may return for a few more weeks.

It will also make the next season of Congressional theater, that which picks up in 2013 with a focus on the Debt Ceiling where the 2012 Fiscal Cliff season left off, that much more exciting and dramatic. Just as intended.

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Wed, 01/02/2013 - 18:49 | 3116621 nmewn
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Pork!!!

We must have more PORK!!!...the Alaskan fisheries are at stake!!!

Fuckin Christie...what a douche nozzle.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 18:51 | 3116634 nope-1004
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Good thing Halloween didn't have to be moved from Sandy.  Christie needs his garbage food and that would have been another couple Bil$ for the US taxpayer.

 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 18:58 | 3116655 fourchan
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let it ride....

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 19:26 | 3116769 flacon
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Governor Christie was the one who instituted PRICE CONTROLS for gasoline right after Sandy - thus compounding the fuel shortage problem. Good job Christie you moronic Keynesian.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 19:42 | 3116815 NotApplicable
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Umm.... I just let that whole video play, and did not encounter a single meltdown.

Frustration, yes, but a meltdown??? Hardly.

Why is this being characterized as such? Looking at the Google news search, you'd think he went all Bud Dwyer or something, yet he never even as much as raised his voice.  Not once.

This is nothing more than the next chapter of spin.

I did like the part though where he claimed that nobody was doing anything yet, because they were ALL waiting to see what Uncle Sugar was going to to first.

Moral Hazard, Bitchez?

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 19:58 | 3116878 Freddie
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Union rules.  Wasn't it Jersey that turned away electric utility line crews from Alabama?  NJ told them to join the union and the good ole boys told them to go F themselves.

What is totally insane is that Christie is one of the better and less corrupt NE politicians.  The rest are even worse!

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:05 | 3116906 NotApplicable
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Less corrupt? LOL You don't get to be an elected Don in NJ by kissing babies.

If anything he is a "Lite" version with a slightly improved taste over previous politicos.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:26 | 3117177 AldousHuxley
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pork eating pig Chris Christie versus I don't know where your money is MF Global Corzine????

 

why does anyone still live in new jersey?

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 22:10 | 3117310 GetZeeGold
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Christie will hand you an Almond Joy out of his side picket....for free....Corzine will just steal it from you.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 22:24 | 3117342 flacon
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For those unbelievers that Governor Chris Christie engaged in PRICE CONTROLS OF GASOLINE, you need to read the following from the Governor himself:

 

"New Jersey's price gouging statute, N.J.S.A. 56:8-107, et. seq., makes it illegal to set excessive price increases during a declared state of emergency or for 30 days after the termination of the state of emergency. 

 

Price increases are deemed excessive under the law if they are more than 10 percent above the price at which the good or service was sold during the normal course of business, prior to the state of emergency."

 

http://nj.gov/governor/news/news/552012/approved/20121027c.html

 

For those who are economically challanged, price gouging is a euphemism for FREE MARKET PRICE. Nobody is holding a gun to your head to buy the gasoline, it is VOLUNTARY exchange. In addition, if the price increases significantly it would drive supply to where the price is highest, thus lowering the price in short order. 

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:44 | 3117702 Supernova Born
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The porker needs his PORK.

Pork him now!

The video? tf;dw (too fat, didn't watch)

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 10:22 | 3118391 sessinpo
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Cheaper then NY. It's called the market and a bitch for liberals when actual free markets are allowed to exist.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:54 | 3117045 fockewulf190
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Christie built his reputation on being Mr. No...cancelling projects, slashing budgets, basically doing what needs to be done because New Jersey is wracked with debt.  Now, however, after the disaster, Christie wants a broke Congress to pay the bill, but he doesn´t want to accept his own medicine.

It all boils down to the consequences of crushing debt.  There are no reserves.  Just wait what happens when Los Angeles finally has it´s long awaited epic earthquake.  California is even worse off fiscally than New Jersey, and when the howling begins, only the printing press will be there to save them...until it doesn´t.

 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:27 | 3117179 Freddie
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Christie should go to Mr. Reinsurance - none other than that tax dodging crony capitalfascist Warner Buffert.  Pay up Warner.  You charge up the a*s to reinsure against storms.   Get out your checkbook.  

Buffett would rather push this off on taxpayers. 

 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:39 | 3117208 greyghost
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see OREZ post below about insurance. are those the same insurance companies that wouldn't pay off after the 1994 northridge quake? reminds of the time my wife's work offered long term care insurance at a supposed discount. i had never seen such pressure to make a hurried decision about a life changing topic. 60 days from start to finish, however it took three or four weeks to get the infomation, which really left 30 days for your decision. well a simple google search of the company turned up two full pages of articles about how this company was being sued by class action and states "for not paying off on their policies". oh what a wonderful world without any pesky regulations. oh wait there are regulations against that...and yet the company did it anyway.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:42 | 3117228 ClassicalLib17
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You forgot to mention my shitty home state.  Home of a succession of imprisoned governors, and a state legislature that slipped through even Patrick Fitzgerald's tight grip on official corruption..  A-H-H-H-H-H

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 19:53 | 3116833 Max in St Moritz
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One of the reasons why I enjoy ZeroHedge is because I get a better understanding of how the libertarian mind works.  What a nasty, nasty group of self-centered assholes!  Just take a look at the comments in this thread. 

Fascinating.  Before ZeroHedge, I never fully realized how hate-filled and nasty libertarians generally are.  It's like a new sub-culture of people I've never been exposed to. 

I'm beginning to understand why John McCain called all the Palin-followers/tea-partiers/libertarians "hobbits from the center of the Earth."

 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 19:53 | 3116868 VisualCSharp
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Aside from your inane and juvenile "libertarian" characterizations, why shouldn't folks be upset? You are an idiot if you think we should all just sit idly by while government rapes us all.

You must find it so comforting to bash "libertarians" while ignoring your real masters.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:10 | 3117111 greyghost
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step up to the plate. what exactly would you propose as solutions to the current problems facing our country? please step up with some "real" solutions...not some fantasy dream world.......kill welfare, kill soc. sec., kill medicare, kill unemployment insurance, all without igniting an instant torch from one coast to the other coast. the first states to go up in flames will be the red states that are net takers from the federal goverment and not givers. always has cracked me up that the poorest of states all look like good little red states. doesn't anyone ever wonder how after decades of republican rule, these ass wipe states are some of the poorest states in the union....naw...i guess not. isn't it so much easier to live in some fantasy world about going back to the 1820's or 1870's or my favorite the 1890's robber barons. sorry, we have crossed those bridges and then burned them, never to be used again. who are your "real masters"?

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:29 | 3117184 AldousHuxley
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solution is to kill.

 

 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:40 | 3117220 greyghost
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so your against cutting the defense budget?

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 07:00 | 3118047 GetZeeGold
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Only if you're the ambassador to Benghazi.

 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 19:57 | 3116883 rodocostarica
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Fuck off Max.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:05 | 3116910 orez65
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Fuck you asshole!

Did you ever hear of INSURANCE?!

Why in the hell should I subsidize the liberal northeast?

Buy insurance, you blood sucking entitlement headed shit heads.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:12 | 3117118 greyghost
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are those the same insurance companies that wouldn't pay after katrina? just asking

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 23:42 | 3117465 Lore
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That's the same question that keeps running through my mind. Nowhere in Christie's remarks does he say anything about INSURANCE.  The psychology appears to resemble that of people who deliberately build homes on flood plains in my locale (disaster hits / no insurance / "free us from consequences of our actions"). 

The difference here is that many claims are reportedly being denied by low-brow insurance firms owing to the official downgrade of the hurricane to a "storm" in very timely fashion: MOMENTS BEFORE IT MADE LANDFALL.  In other words, insurance companies are trying to dodge expenses on a sleazy technicality.

It's interesting to hear Christie preaching the gospel of entitlement, because he's supposed to be Republican.  Demise of the welfare state is going to disarm many politicians who attempt to sit on the fence of Nanny Statism.

We're seeing the same thing in Canada with certain native group protests.  Everybody is lined up like seagulls, not realizing that the breadcrumbs are running out.

The chief and simple lesson going forward is not to place blind trust in institutions. I didn't believe previously that the system at large could break down entirely, but seeing the twisted logic and lack of leadership lately, it's clear.  So thanks ZH for posting this.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:14 | 3116925 Tsunami Wave
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Hey everyone, Max Fischer is back! Now that you're here again, tell us again how you think gold is going back to $800, silver below your IQ level, why peak oil doesn't exist, and the rest of why your other dumb central-planning inspired bullshit you still believe in really works out.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:40 | 3117007 akak
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Its scares and disheartens me to see that ten (and counting) other ZH members have actually UP-arrowed this typically vile, malicious, diversionary and trollish post by MaxFischer. 

What the FUCK are you ten thinking?

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:47 | 3117038 Tsunami Wave
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There are conveniently 4 Junkers that junked the previous responses to Maxine's logically retarded post... So my guess is those 4 (probably the same person) Junkers upvoted this guy. The rest are probably disheartened kensyians that need to identify with someone that continues to carry the torch of retarded centrally-planned logic..

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:50 | 3117055 akak
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And, of course, there is always the possibility (bordering on likelihood in this case) that most or all of those up-arrows were simply generated by sockpuppets of Max, as I have a VERY hard time believing that there are actually at least ten ZH members who would agree with ANY post of his, much less this gratuitously trollish one.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:56 | 3117079 knukles
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There is a whole paid, for profit industry out there (as well as massive governmental efforts, all heretofore disclosed in the public realm if you go looking for it) referred to as in the Perceptions Management business which actively monitor, vote, comment and implement dialogue to disrupt and divert the essentials of a site's messages, back to and seemingly in favor of the "Opposition".

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:48 | 3117048 Bay of Pigs
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TROLLS bitchez...

 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 22:37 | 3117376 Transitory
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5/8/2012
Gold $1605

Max Fischer
5/8/2012 - 16:52
*LOL*

Holy Cow!  That is some INCREDIBLY STRONG Kool-Aid you're drinking, sir.  It doesn't matter how poorly silver and gold perform, you guys never miss an opportunity to spin your losses into something positive.  I swear, if silver/gold lost 75% of their value, you idiots would be saying, "This is fantastic!  Even though my life's savings is in PMs and I've lost 75% of my wealth, this collapse only enables me to buy more! I hope it goes lower!"

mf

 

This guy right?

Gold currently $1688. Seems like the Kool-Aid tastes great to me, eh, Tsunami?

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 07:03 | 3118053 GetZeeGold
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I hope it goes lower

 

That's one hell of plan you got going there......add a little change and you've got yourself a real winner.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:10 | 3116928 NotApplicable
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Care to discuss an actual comment, or are incoherent, broad generalizations all you're capable of?

Personally, I'm having a hard time understanding how stealing from millions in order to split the loot with amongst a few politically connected contractors is considered "self-centered."

Then again, it's easier to demand theft from everyone than it is to donate your own time and money, huh?

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:14 | 3116939 Eahudimac
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One of the reasons I like reading commets on Zerogedhe is to better understand how the mind of a guy who can have sex with a wet cheerio and not break it works.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:17 | 3116952 chubbar
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Whaaa! I deserve my free shit and I shouldn't have to pay for it! Whaaa!!! All you assholes that believe that free shit shouldn't be given out are just fucking assholes! Whaaa!!! You are a bunch of haters!!! Whaaa! We DESERVE that MONEY!!!! gimme gimme gimme!!!

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:33 | 3116997 PLira
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Love the passive-aggressive ad hominid attack agenda. Typical for a Kumbayaa liberal actually. You guys are so easy to spot as your tactics rarely vary.

Here is a glimpse of how the True Libertarian mind works,

Take responsibility for your actions. Accept the outcome of your decisions and don't look for outside help to rectify the bad decisions you make. Get .gov out of our lives to all extents possible. States should have the responsibility to protect their citizens locally. Simple as that although expanding would make it clearer.

Given that you types emote instead of analyze, to expand would be a waste of my time.

Your emergency is not my problem.

Federal Government should exist only to satisfy the national defense and the Legislative and Execute branches should meet once a year or in emergency session, if needed, just like NV.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 00:03 | 3117613 Lore
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"ad hominid"  heh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae

Agree completely re: emotion rather than analysis. "Feelers" are easiest for technocrats to manipulate. If more people thought critically, "Sustainability" Agenda 21 would never have gotten off the ground.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:29 | 3117181 kliguy38
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Max may I ask why someone of your status trolls on a thread such as this.....surely one that has studied the intricate cognitive abilities of someone of McCain's strata should be able to engage a better class of proles than ZH'rs. Of course it probably does provide one a semblance of entertainment when collecting their Monthly trust check is really the only excitement one has to look forward to, but still I have to wonder what would make one of your class reside here......I suggest perhaps a dissertation on Mr. McCain would be at least an improvement for you.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:30 | 3117187 StychoKiller
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WTF?  Sorry, but if my house gets damaged by a natural disaster, I fully expect the Homeowner's insurance to cover any and all repairs, minus a $1000 deductible, so stuff yer notion that Govt should pay for things!

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:45 | 3117237 greyghost
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good luck with that. research 1994 northridge ca. earthquake and katrina and see the battle royal that states did to get insurance companies to payoff. took years, if ever.

Thu, 01/03/2013 - 02:01 | 3117835 San Diego Gold Bug
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I was in that quake.  Our house in the valley took a good hit.  Got a check from my company within three months and FEMA sent me 10k within four months.  You just need to know how to fill out the paper work and bug the agents.  You can't sit by your mail box waiting for it to happen without a little effort on your part!! Most people are lazy assholes waiting for someone to do it for them.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 19:52 | 3116865 mrdenis
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Christie did not institute price controls he instituted odd even days to buy gas ...before odd even days there were hour long waits for fuel once the O/E days started the wait was gone .Christie got high marks for that ....NYC followed his lead after about a week ..

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:02 | 3116901 XitSam
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So in Governor Christie's mind, people need to own a car to buy gas for their generator.  Lucky people that have two cars (with odd & even licenses), they can buy gas every day. 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 20:12 | 3116932 NotApplicable
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I like how they arrested people for bringing in gas from outlying areas for resale, for you know... "humanitarian" purposes.

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 22:26 | 3117348 flacon
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For those unbelievers that Governor Chris Christie engaged in PRICE CONTROLS OF GASOLINE, you need to read the following from the Governor himself:

 

"New Jersey's price gouging statute, N.J.S.A. 56:8-107, et. seq., makes it illegal to set excessive price increases during a declared state of emergency or for 30 days after the termination of the state of emergency. 

 

Price increases are deemed excessive under the law if they are more than 10 percent above the price at which the good or service was sold during the normal course of business, prior to the state of emergency."

 

http://nj.gov/governor/news/news/552012/approved/20121027c.html

 

For those who are economically challanged, price gouging is a euphemism for FREE MARKET PRICE. Nobody is holding a gun to your head to buy the gasoline, it is VOLUNTARY exchange. In addition, if the price increases significantly it would drive supply to where the price is highest, thus lowering the price in short order. 

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:20 | 3117157 greyghost
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so if you own two cars, does that mean two people are driving to different work/school etc. or are you saying that one car is used to store the gasoline? inquiring minds and all that

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 21:15 | 3117049 Theta_Burn
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What an epic FAIL

Dude, fuel shortage was due to loss of power, really all the fuel we needed was just a few feet under ground..

ppl were paying $40 for a 5gal gas can...while they lasted

Price controls didn't happen here

putz

Wed, 01/02/2013 - 22:25 | 3117335 flacon
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For those unbelievers that Governor Chris Christie engaged in PRICE CONTROLS OF GASOLINE, you need to read the following from the Governor himself:

 

"New Jersey's price gouging statute, N.J.S.A. 56:8-107, et. seq., makes it illegal to set excessive price increases during a declared state of emergency or for 30 days after the termination of the state of emergency. 

 

Price increases are deemed excessive under the law if they are more than 10 percent above the price at which the good or service was sold during the normal course of business, prior to the state of emergency."

 

http://nj.gov/governor/news/news/552012/approved/20121027c.html

 

For those who are economically challanged, price gouging is a euphemism for FREE MARKET PRICE. Nobody is holding a gun to your head to buy the gasoline, it is VOLUNTARY exchange. In addition, if the price increases significantly it would drive supply to where the price is highest, thus lowering the price in short order. 

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