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Santelli: "There Has To Be An Endgame To Insanity"
The 'deal' didn't surprise CNBC's Rick Santelli as he notes the administration did the "easy thing" once again. However, he does think the coming battle in 6-8 weeks regarding the debt ceiling will be surprising to many and believes "there has to be an endgame to insanity." Rick's rightly cynical perspective on the euphoric opening gap today in stocks and bonds (and questioning the veracity of manipulated 'market' prices) appears as frustrating to him as "watching politicians all slap each other on the back while the country slips into a Grecian like formula."
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More insanity!
Sorry...MOAR insanity!
There's got to be a morning after but we'll have to capsize first.
Rick will most probably see the end game or portions of it, trust me when we get there he is going to hate seeing it.
If you reach the end of the process of liquidation of the unfunded liabilities and are still walking around I don't know if that is lucky or not.
Rick's problem is he is looking for a solution, the end game is collapse as that is the end result of using the equation. Looking to DC to fix the unfixable is a waste of time, unless someone there has unlimited power there really is not much they can do.
The insanity is humans doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Any system based on taking more than you put in... ie interest, it is doomed to collapse in a bad way. 100+ million unfunded liabilities liquidated last, my guess 1-2 billion this time, go ahead and rinse and repeat if you like....
Um, Rick..
The end game for the US financial insanity (dictionary: unsoundness) is tyranny..
But they need to get the guns first.
And of course, a huge transfer tax on gold and silver is in everybody’s future (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-02/india-finmin-demand-gold-must-be-moderated).
Rick could very well handle his own insanity by placing the barrel between his lips and squeezing the trigger.
He's just another MSM lackey playing the advocate.
What's to stop the same majority (RINO + Dems) that just sold us down the river yesterday from raising the debt limit also?
Republicans will squawk then increase the debt limit. Gov't Gone Wild!
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/the-day-after-republi...
"Any system based on taking more than you put in... ie interest, it is doomed to collapse in a bad way. "
It's even more than money. Chris Martenson's "Crash Course" does a good job of explaining that we live in a closed system with a limited supply of certain resources (i.e. oil, clean water, fertile soil, copper, etc.) yet we have economic models that strive for continuous growth year over year (i.e. GDP, GNP). Given that these economic models need raw resources to manufacture goods, this model isn't feasible. Then when you factor in exponential population growth feeding demand for necessities and jobs, the problem worsens.
The end result is a lot of societal turmoil and death. That's not necessarily a bad thing since everyone dies eventually and can actually make people value life a lot more in the coming years. However I doubt most of our society is prepared or doing anything to mentally and spiritually prepare for future hard times.
The Yachts
contend in a sea which the land partly encloses
shielding them from the too-heavy blows
of an ungoverned ocean which when it chooses
tortures the biggest hulls, the best man knows
to pit against its beatings, and sinks them pitilessly.
Mothlike in mists, scintillant in the minute
brilliance of cloudless days, with broad bellying sails
they glide to the wind tossing green water
from their sharp prows while over them the crew crawls
ant-like, solicitously grooming them, releasing,
making fast as they turn, lean far over and having
caught the wind again, side by side, head for the mark.
In a well guarded arena of open water surrounded by
lesser and greater crafts which, sycophant, lumbering
and flittering follow them, they appear youthful, rare
as the light of a happy eye, live with the grace
of all that in the mind is fleckless, free and
naturally to be desired. Now the sea whoch holds them
is moody, lapping their glossy sides, as of feeling
for some slightest flaw but fails completely.
Today no race. Then the wind comes again. The yachts
move, jockeying for a start, the signal is set and they
are off. Now the waves strike at them but they are too
well made, the slip through, though they take in canvas.
arms with hands grasping seek to clutch at the prows
Bodies thrown recklessly in the way are cut aside.
It is a sea of faces about them in agony, in despair
until the horror of the race dawns staggering the mind;
the whole sea become an entanglement of watery bodies
lost to the world bearing what they can not hold. Broken,
beaten, desolate, reaching from the dead to be taken up
they cry out, failing, failing! their cries rising
in waves skill as the skillful yachts pass over.
- William Carlos Williams is fitting since his "capitals" were so scarce
That might be the first ever WC Williams poem on ZH.
When the still sea conspires an armor
And her sullen and aborted
Currents breed tiny monsters
True sailing is dead
Awkward instant
And the first animal is jettisoned
Legs furiously pumping
Their stiff green gallop
And heads bob up
Poise
Delicate
Pause
Consent
In mute nostril agony
Carefully refined
And sealed over
- Horse Latitudes, Jim Morrison
Jim, I knew you were still alive. Those French always lie. Tell Elvis I said hello. Oh, and ask what color is best for depression
SheepHerder
Nice post, generally agree. The system is based on the requirement of exponential growth, normally you can get 60-80 years max or a generation.
"this model isn't feasible"
The model is feasible, if you enjoy the liquidation at the end result.
i think the endgame is to baffle ZH readers so much that think they are the ones that are insane
There's BILLIONS of stars in the milky way galaxy alone! Time to leave the cradle!
How about a morning after pill for this mess?
spankfish penned: 'How about a morning after pill for this mess?'
even if today was 12/31/13 i'd still say comment of the year
Was that a reference to The Poseidon Adventure? Well played, sir.
Too much is always better than not enough.
JR Bob Dobbs
Santelli????
Isn't he that douchetard that's the head of the Tea Party?????
Thought so...
Trololololololololololo.com
He's a bond butt boy. Called people stuck with underwater and fraudulent mortgages "loosers" eventhough frauad was rampant in the origination part of the industry (FBI issued and altert in 2004) and the same notes were packaged and sold up to 10X.
Didn't hear Santelli bitching about the bank bailouts...but, he didn't want to see the average homeowner get anything out of the deal because they were "loosers."
You ddnt hear about him bitching about bank bailouts?
You must not have been listening.
Provide clip. Never seen anything like that or heard the he launched a rant against the bank deals in paricular.
He channelled through Max Keiser.
"Loosers" is about right: i.e. "loose" "er", as in more loose. You didn't even know it, but you hit the nail on the head!
Sorry Flat...but if you bought a house that you could not afford...lied on the application...and if fell in price...you are a loser..you lost money...its not fraudulent...its was greed on your part...and no you should not get bailed out....you should pay the contract...or lose your house...and your credit rating....fraudulent...yeah right...like you didn´t know what you were buying....
What a putrid comment.
Banks perpetrated the debt culture by not doing any due diligence nor risk assesment. They gave loans to anybody with a pulse knowing that the market would collapse so they could sell this toxic debt as AAA credit.
Banks orchestrated the fraudulent loans, to keep the bubble expanding.
A bank CFO testified that they knew 85% of the loans they were giving out, were going to default; so who exactly is the greedy con-artist, the banks or the house buyers??????????????
low doc and no doc liar loans...switching papers at closing so that people who thought they were getting fixed rate loans got variable rate loans instead...re-packaging of toxic debt...fraud rampant throughout the system.
Yeah, all the fault of the "homebuyer."
In Amerika everyones a victim.
Ouch, that really hurt. How could you say that?
You could say the banks took advantage of consumer stupidity, the fact that buying and consuming is the rage, owning 'stuff' is the in trend. It is all about selling people debt, debt they can't repay and will never be able to repay. The people need to do their due diligence, become responsible and understand how the system works before getting fucked by it. IMO.
So, BOTH parties to the contract were dishonest -- WHO should we feel sorry for?
What kind of a moron relies on a banker to do his thinking. LOSER!!!
Greedy bankers were matched up with greedy borrowers. No one put a gun to the head of borrowers to borrow money. Banks could not "perpetuate a debt culture" without borrowers eager to join in -- impossible. Most of the loans were not fraudulent. Even if the bank thought the default risk was high or knew the due diligence was weak, it in no way relieves the borrower from paying back the money he received. Borrowers are still obligated to pay back the money they were given.
Not looking to give the banks anything, but I am not looking to give borrowers anything either. The two parties to the loan document should bear all the pain and not taxpayers. Any unhappiness about loans from the government to banks (which have largely been repaid) are 100% the fault of elected official. No one had a gun to politicians' heads to lend banks (or auto makers) money -- they could have choosen not to, but decided otherwise. Banks lobbying politicians (with donations) is not the primary problem either -- politicians can only be corrupted if they choose to be corrupted (banks can not force them to do anything). We need politicians with some character.
The problem is primarily government based. Unfortunately, the elected group we have may accurately represent their constituents who generally believe they are entitled victims and are due money from others -- and politicians like to give away other peoples money to get re-elected. Their is a character / cultural deficiency in the US -- both in politicians and their constituents.
This "youngman" is hilariously ignorant and a douchetard, or a pathological liar.
You've never heard of the largest insurance swindle in human history?
AIG's sales of $460 billion in credit default swaps (CDS), or "unregulated insurance" which put them in the bag for between $20 trillion to $40 trillion, plus, in insurance payouts, none of which they had on hand in capital reserves, 'natch!
You've never heard of Manetar Capital? Paulson & GS's financial fraud called Abacus CDO? Ambac or MBIA?
You should don't know anything about finance nor economics, do you, douchetard?
FYI: Paulson & GS put together a trashy designed-to-fail, garbagey mortgage loan tranches called Abacus CDO, and then they buy shiploads of CDSes at $1.4 million per CDS for a payout of $100 million per CDS.
>>>You should don't know anything about finance nor economics, do you, douchetard?<<<
Easier to call homeowners "losers" than to recognize the entire system was and still is fraudulent.
I think he's a former bankster given his propensity to defend the status quo by blaming average people for what happened.
You ignore that it was the banks pressuring the appraisors to increase prices
that helped make sure everyone would be underwater.
Anyway 99% of the fraud was by the banks.not the borrowers.
Is your reale name Dick Bove by chance.
Do you mean the Tea Party that was voted into congress in 2010 and again last November, the Tea Party that made John Boehner Speaker of the House, the Tea Party that agreed to raise the debt limit etc
If that's the Tea Party you are speaking of I am not sure he is the head of it, but the word douchetard is being polite
If Boehner doesnt lose the speakership over this then there is no teaparty
There's no Tea Party when the Koch Bros. pull thier funding and pursue a different avenue for their corporate concerns.
You really think there is no one left at the grassroots who believes in limited government, limited taxes?
I didnt downrate you even if I do think you are hopeless
I think they still do...but they are buying guns and ammo now....not funding politicians
Liberty Movement, bitchez..
There already is no teaparty. One could argue if there ever was one... I think there may have been, very early on... but it was co-opted by the Republican Party. I believe that those who believe otherwise have been played.
I believe I agree. These two parties are too powerful, too criminal and will crush the earliest sign of competition. Another reason why the "fix" will be more than political
Co-option is an efficient and effective strategy. Dual power in reverse. I don't know how it can be fought.
Dems co-opted the anti-war and pro civil liberties "movement" that seemed to gain some traction towards the end of W's term. It's how the system "works".
What happened to all the anti-war protests since Obama took office?
Exactly my point. Kind of like "what happened to fiscal conservatives as bush drove the size of govt"? How does the system keep fighting the same unpopular wars? Elect the anti-war candidate, quiet dissent, and escalate. Remember when W campaigned against nation building? Get him elected and carry on. This is how it works. Divide and conquer. The system requires only your faith that it matters who you vote for. It doesn't.
exactly - it's the same reason Kucinich and Paul were each silenced by their own parties about the war, the patriot act, NSA, drones, etc. This has nothing to do with politcal philosophies
It reminds me of Pelosi being asked why her party did not go after her competitor party's administration for the war, its crimes and all the crimes that followed up to and after. She said she relished in its horrid effects as it gave her party a new political advantage. From where I come from, in criminal law land, that makes you an accomplice and just as liable as the principal. They are all a bunch of disgusting murders and thieves. But other than that, I love them.
A vast majority of them are likely sociopaths. If you haven't read it, pick Psychopath Test. It's a quick and entertaining read. Once I explored the topic a bit, the natural conclusion to draw is that a majority of our elected officials, at the national level for sure, but deeper I suspect, are sociopaths.
but are they nice sociopaths or mean ones?
Double post
tea party Null will always exist for the MSM and Leftards (and that includes the Nationalist 'Conservatives') to have fun with.
The 2012 Election was rigged and many in the Tea party actually lost seats in 2012.
Actually, he was the FIRST to call for the ppl to "Occupy Wall Street" to demand perp walks for the guilty, and end the incestuous wall street/washington circle jerk (p.s. were in the middle).
If you can find that clip, where Santelli says "Occupy Wall Street" or demands perp walks for bankers ,I'll be happy to watch it....
Occupy Wall Street turned into a bunch of looney leftist and useful idiots calling for a vote for Obama and the Democrats.
Co-opted... It's how the game works. You could say that The Tea Party folks turned into a bunch of useful idiots calling for a R vote. OWS and the TP are the same people, basically. Both are have nots who can see that things are forked up, but can't quite put their finger on what it is.
"OWS and the TP are the same people, basically." Not at all really. Difference is one expects things and guaranteed outcomes from the nanny Govt and the other expects the Govt to follow the Constitution and stay within its limits of power over peoples lives. Statism vs Liberty.
I don't think so. Some of the OWS crowd, perhaps... But not the genesis of the movement. They wanted accountability for the criminal behavior on Wall Street. But again, it was co-opted and twisted... And eventually reeled in.
Maybe some of the useful idiots thought they were protesting "accountability", but the genesis of the movement is leftist and made up of many anti-capitalist activists. You know that. It was twisted and spun as the left always does, but the bottom line is the movement is pro statism. not pro liberty.
I'm anti this iteration of capitalism. The version where bankers can loan money into existence and are back stopped by my taxes. This isn't really capitalism... It's more like finance fascism. The CATO institute published a decent paper on the subject a number of years ago... Google finance fascism, you'll find it. I assume you'll approve of the source.
This statist vs liberty narrative between the TP crowd and the OWS crowd is a false narrative, I believe. It's pushed in order to keep these people at odds with each other. If TPTB can keep the unwashed masses at odds with each other, the focus stays off of them. All just my opinion. The end goal is always to keep people divided.
Did anyone notice that the "vote up" arrow is disabled, while only the vote down arrow is enabled???
TD's conspiracy?
The arrows are fine, it's your comments that suck.
the Tea Party is "bipartisan" fair weather protesters with Repubican Dick Army as spokesman and repubican backers.
Today is the market top. All downhill from here .... another downgrade, debt limit cliff is next in a series of cliffs, all the while the politicians will scrap together a last-minute "fix", that solves the problem permanently (until next months crisis).
We have now gone full retard (or is that full europe)?
The awakening will happen once DC and the main street realizes that it is not Congress that drives the stock market, but the casino called the stock market that drives the Congress to action. Pretty pathetic since DC folks will always take the shortest route to please the stock market.
Oh Rick, take a breath man, your pissing in the wind now!
Awakening???? These fucks are elected by Wall Street, why wouldn't you think they are tripping about the stock market 24/7?
Just wait until the Fed starts bailing out failed munis. My bet is Illinois is first before California.
Starts?
EndGame is simple. Arrest, tri, prosecute, convict and Execute the Treasonist Criminal Politicians.
$79 Million of Federal Funding to NASCAR, $1.8 Billion to Goldman Sacks with no interest to be paid back, $772 Billion in Food Stamps Program, and of course we all wanted to pay $45 Million for Experimentation into Extraterrestrial Sounds and Language
... endgame, smendgame.
FORWARD~!
I can't like the above for some reason (technical), but +1. Corporatocracy US of A as per usual, corporations ahead of the people who ultimately support those corporations. Keep em in the dark and feed em shit.
the flow of corporate welfare has slowed to a trickle (in CA, and so goes the nation) but if you're GE and you don't pay any taxes, what good is another tax break??
I think they call it a "Tax Rebate".
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-02/goldman-sachs-sped-up-65-millio...
GE gets all manner of federal subsidies and grants. Tax "breaks" are just a part of the money that flows to them.
Devil's in the details.
$16.1 trillion to the banksters from the Fed.
$.9 trillion (TARP bailout funds including wages and contract fees paid to its "oversight" to BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, et al.)
That's $17 trillion total, plus all those other free funds to those overnight "bank holding companies" from the Fed window.
$2.3 trillion unaccounted for monies missing from the DoD, according to public news conference, held at the Pentagon by its comptroller, on the day of 9/10/01 (next morning, the audit team responsible for uncovering this would be mostly killed by a plane crash dead center into the Pentagon's west wall, where the DIA's Financial Management staff had been called to a last minute "emergency meeting").
$9 billion missing in Iraq, somehwere between the oil revenues travelling through JPMorgan Chase to the New York Federal Reserve Bank.
$16 billion missing off the the books at Freddie Mac.
Over $17 billion missing from funds disbursed to Afghanistani war.
And the banksters, and senior capital pool doods, have complete control over the money supply with their so-called "austerity programs" so no new lending is occurring to grow their money supply they fully control now.....
“You’re going to have to undoubtedly do something to lower people’s expectations: the entitlements [Social Security and Medicare], and what people think that they’re going to get, because it’s not going to…they’re not going to get it.”
That was Lloyd Blankfein’s response to what Washington should do about the national debt and fiscal cliff.
Whose lunch is free, it seems, depends on who is taking whom to lunch and picking up the tab.
In the trail of money, most of the trillions in Federal income and QE inflation taxes are being lifted from the citizen and heading straight to the banks. So, as workers earnings up to $113,700 are dunned 12.4 percent in Social Security taxes this year, Lloyd is taking it in stride.
Prior to Goldman Sachs’ bankruptcy in 2008 and subsequent taxpayer bailout, Lloyd’s compensation from Goldman was a record-setting $67.9 million award for 2007. One year later from Goldman’s free or low cost capital supplied by broke American taxpayers, Goldman boosted compensation and benefits by 33 percent with compensation per employee reaching $773,000.
Helping to pick up the tab and to make ends meet, America’s employees and employers this year now will each pay 6.2% (total 12.4%) of each paycheck into SS. The Medicare tax rate of 1.45 percent each for the employee and employer has no wage base limit.
In addition, per NY Daily News: High-income families will also pay higher taxes this year as part of Obama's 2010 health care law. As part of that law, a new 3.8 percent tax is being imposed on investment income for individuals making more than $200,000 a year and couples making more than $250,000.
Is this what Marie Antoinette meant, when told there was no bread for the people, said: “Let them eat cake”?
If everybody gets out of social security only what they put in compounded by a long bond rate of interest that would be fair.
People's expectations have to be lowered. There are not enough banksters to hose to make up the difference.
Expecting multiples of what you put in above and beyond your investment return then you are just another fucking welfare whore
Lies. It wasn’t a promise from the government; it was a mandatory demand. And the new message from the bankers which you expertly carry is that expectations for returns on SS exceed money contributed.
At this point, almost no SS recipient who pays in maximum would favor the current system over having had a chance to invest his own money all these years in a personal retirement account which would have obviously been considerable if compensated for Fed inflation.
The banker message obscures the fact they took the money, they spent it and/or destroyed its value by heinous inflation, and now they are demonizing the elderly in order to cut them off when they retire.
Silverstein - 9/11/01: " the smartest thing to do is pull it" (bldg 7").
Why stop now? Insanity has been working so well.
Like Will Rogers once said, "If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?'
Well Jethro, Here, getchu sum learnin from Jed buyin stock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVu4aBUQ6S8
I bet the guy that didn't pay for his coffee before he got it in Wiemar Germany thought there would be an endgame to the insanity too as well.
The endgame is complete collapse, the hope is that the 60+ crowd that got us into this mess can ride the wave and die before it crests.
Anyone short insanity is going to get squeezed.
That is a good short summary of the past 4 years.
I just hope the Jets win the Super Bowl before we have a Planet of the Apes style overthrow and annihilation of our country. They'd better win it next year-if it's not too late.
I dont care about the Jets but I gave you a green triangle for having the right priorities.
Peak insanity is still a long way off.
Peaki insanity is only as close as the next set of transfer payments.
and the only resource we still lead in export
There is an end game, total subjugation of the stupid by their betters with the higher educations. And all predicated on the winning of elections conveying this superior knowledge and moral authority on the likes of Obama, Jarret, Ayers, Boner, et al.
FORWARD SOVIET!
Walla, you do realize that Wright Patman was the greatest populist to ever come out of Texas, and that the anti-worker Ron Paul isn't a true populist, but a poser and an imposter, on the side of Wall Street, he's simply co-opted the traditional antipathy towards the banksters' front window, the Federal Reserve?
Or are you another illiterate?
Crazy... like foxes. The status quo has been maintained, the dirty little deals got done, Congress got a pay raise, payroll taxes are going up, federal programs are going to get cut. Happy New Year
The bit after Santelli is also very good
Yep, I liked that guy, Doug Dachille. He talked plainly about there is no longer any market feedback in terms of yield/prices.
FORWARD SOVIET!
HURRY UP and BUY HIGH
spx @ 1451...hurry it was @ 1458...hurrry..b4 they dump it to sub 1300....don't u know the joys of buying high....
just like in 4-2012 spx @ 1415...they CHEERED YOU !!! then 6-2012 spx @ 1274..i know I covered shorts and went long...under guidance of the shoe shines boys bc they were bearish @ 1274....AND bullish @ 1415...thanks shoe shine boys (cbs-mw)
just like on QE3 NEWS !!! spx @ 1474 next day...then drop to 1343
just like on QE4 NES !! spx @ 1447 day b4 news...then drop to 1398
BUY HIGH NOW...spx 1450+ then drop to sub 1300....b4 next dead cat bounce.....and then super massive drops ahead.....
muppets ur supposed to buy high.
i remember 4-2012
cbs-mw (kate gibson stupid "reporter" = cheerleader) was teling you @ spx 1405 (b4 TOP the next day @ 1415)...that:
"just like lotto ticket buyers...YOU HAD NO CHANCE OF MAKING $$$$ if YOU DON'T GO LONG STOCKS"
and what did ZH say:...ZH copied that headline page...and said: "cbs-mw goes full retard" = me go full SHORT !!!! LOL !!!!!!
come on muppets, go FULL "LONG"...ROFLMAO !!!
I have to admit, the bullshit meter is pegged sky high today.
Irrational Exuberance on every channel and across the globe. VIX crushed, weak shorts getting blow torched.
Their media is making the propaganda to benefit them. The big boyz are selling into this rally.
Why? If 51% are diagnosed as bipolar then the other 49% will be medicated for monopolar disorder.
Correct. The tyranny of the majority has you.
The game ends when you're dead.
" To die, To be really dead. That must be glorious"
Universal's 1931 Dracula
http://dorkshelf.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads//2012/10/Dracula.jpg
That douchebag Sorkin dreams of getting Obama's cock in his mouth every night. He usually has to settle for a lesser throw away from Cramer or Kernan but no doubt he is sucking a lot of cock to get on TV with the big boys
Sorkin is like a young Joe Kernan. All boot lickers with no backbone. Their sickening.
FORWARD
We may never see the end. Like Japan. So no, we don't dictate the timing, Rick. It has already gone on longer than anyone thought possible. Why not longer? Boehner tells Reid to go fuck himself and other precious moments...http://thecivillibertarian.blogspot.com/2013/01/and-then-boehner-saysgo-...
There does NOT have to be an end to the insanity. As long as you can devalue, it's a limitless game.
There is a limit. Eventually something in the system blows up,and the chaos will ensue.
Chaos does not preclude insanity.
End game: dow 5000, gold 10000
There you have it
typical zh fool-dow easy doulble while gold below 1000-play the game as it is-not the way you dream it should be
Play the game, lose your soul....
But at least Oiamadouchebagfucktard is back in Hawaii.
LOL, he would have pulled a Mark Zuckerberg (ringing the bell remotely) and signed from Hawaii otherwise.
How many thousands of gallons of fuel did he blow just to come in and force the republicans to sign?
Ooops, The video is not working. What is that big arrow in the center of the video. Am i supposed to press that?
Santelli has to get used to infinite debt, printing and spending. It goes on until market forces say otherwise.
"It goes on until the supply lines for essential goods and services breaks." - fixed. We have been here before, hedge accordingly.
An endgame of insanity... of what sort? The insanity of the irresponsible monetary policy, or of the supportive collaboration of bankers and politicians to keep it running? Or of the scared, greedy Congress and government members failing to pursue the liberty values for people they represent? Or of the corrupt media and their complicity in fabricating the bright tomorrows? Or of the justice sweeping problematic cases under the carpet? Or of the thankful people audience happy with bread and circuses?
Tough questions.
Nothing "has to be" anything, what a dumbass crybaby. The "endgame" will be exactly as it was the last time a country with a strong military was taken over by a corrupt fascist few. Wake the fuck up, there is no "market" and the fascists really beleive that they can "set" prices and control all "capital". The world has seen this before people, hedge accordingly.
This is insanity!
Insanity is paying off debts that are created out of 'thin air'.
Workers make goods and provide services and get into debt to buy the very same goods and services.
Bankers colletct fees and interest on money made from air. Job creators collect profits for nothing on things made by people with skills to produce them.
We're top heavy and getting heavier. What differentiates us from Japan and the Japanese? Why did the Japanese people play along for so many years? The Japanese working stiff is getting screwed just as our working stiff. There's no hope, no chance to ever get out from under the debt burden that benefits the elite. It is oppressive and it doesn't feel any better or taste any different now than it did in the 18th century. A self made and self proclaimed elite is ruling and oppressing the majority of people who are working day and night to keep the system going that is unsustainable and unfair. It's fucked up to realize that nothing has changed in the big picture. We have slaves, we have subjects (state debt prisoners) and we have royals.
"We have slaves, we have subjects (state debt prisoners) and we have royals." - Correct, but the royals have different allegences and they still need to exchange something with each other and those slaves in order to get something of real value in return. Even the slave that built the pyramids received the equivalent of two pitchers of a very hearty beer/wheatmeal for a day of their labor.
Things get interesting when the world realizes that those paper promises aren't worth shit and the supply lines break. Not before. Same as it ever was.
I think the world knows full well that it's all bullshit. The only real game-changing challengers are the Chinese. Just like the Germans in the last century.
Economically, the Chinese are positioned nothing like the Germans were. I don't see their currency anywhere near collapse. They are a net creditor right now. Of course, since all the economic numbers are now being fudged and all the paper promises are essentially bullshit wouldn't the entire world be like Germany in the 1930's? China, might be like Germany from a manufacturing standpoint, but that is about it and they have considerably more mouths to feed.
China is the number one threat to US economic survival and challenging the USD as reserve currency. Germany was the cradle of innovation and a threat to US military hegemony as well as economic expansion into Africa and Asia. The US won the race against Germany in securing cheap oil and other resources. The US will not succeed in finishing China off the same way it finished Germany.
Right, because the chinese are so transparent. Try again. Unless of course China is willing to part with gold in exchange for my soybeans, then I say bring it.
All paper promises are burning it matters not who made them.
"There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path" - as a famous saying goes.
Some big players know/realize, but they have to play because they sit on the table, and want to stay there as long as they can. They will try some change but still will obey the rules of the game, till the moment when their own people either throw them out via drastic social changes termed (usually ) revolution, provoked by the sustainability/injustice in their daily lives, or they stop playing/get out of the table, in order to survive in their own local habitat.
This is growing, have patience and prepare, you still probably have 2-3 years.
Take look at that for an interesting time frame: http://energybulletin.net/stories/2012-12-21/the-great-oil-swindle-why-t...
I've been preparing for a number of years already. When oil is no longer affordable and alternatives are non-existent, it is game over for the masses. The masses who came to be simply because of this age of oil.
There's no political leadership and we're supposed to respect these assclowns who are fudging numbers and who keep lying to us that they will have solutions to the real big problems going forward? They're all useless actors.
I don't think it was the easiest thing to do but more like the only option left that was already on the cards before any negotiation began. They are not quite prepared for the endgame to start yet.
Think there is an endgame though, "secure the banks / institutions" because that is where those who have the most to lose would then suffer. You can then pull the QE plug because the banks and all the money they are holding has now been made secure.
This does not include the ordinary people though who will be left to fend for themselves financially.
PS If there is no endgame, then it would mean QE forever and all the QE currently being added into the system does not deal with the problem it just buys time. Buy time for what? For the securing of the places where the worth of those more important is being held of course.
Think it is obvious myself and one day QE will stop and the real endgame then starts.
I think we should start a pool, the end is extremely nigh anyways and there is no way this crippled, terminally ill wreckcovery on hopeium in FRB hospice makes it another year. if this "deal" doesn't make that painfully clear than the upcoming debt cap drama will.
PM's only to get in, no cash for obvious reasons, guns and ammo ok but i wouldn't advise risking them, cause who knows how much longer before we become domestic terrorist extremist law breakers just for owing one.
anyways, closest to the date when the bottom falls out on the dow and martial law is declared wins, if more than one person picks the right date or the closest one the pot is split, or the tie breaker can be who calls the date of the first government approved drone bombing inside the US... though that may have already happened in Indiana.
who's in?
i see Disney wants to release three more Star Wars movies, and that implies economic growth, even if no one watches them (or perhaps they are marketed to children who are unfamiliar with the brand) the idea is brought to mind by another article suggesting new (and even more obsessive infrastructure stimulus) made me think what if there were three bridges over every river in America? the government then privatizes the highway system, and you allow producers to decide how much to charge for their toll road, and you allow consumers to choose which one they prefer, based on condition, cost, and amount of traffic. what if instead of making one Star Wars movie you made three, each similar, but different?
i think i'm getting the feel for this insanity thing, and i like it
http://otherwords.org/the-dropped-ball/
concerning GE? what's another tax break when you already don't pay taxes??
...do the same thing again!....do the same thing again!...do the same thing again!...till it works...aaaaaaarrrrggghhh
I love how this goes back to the price of Treasuries.....which are manipulated, in the first place.
BTW, the Congressman who own Treasuries like Eric Cantor, can short-n-ship when they wish. Back not cooperating and being an asshole about it, he MAKES money.
It's all bullshit.
Dont forget the government worker is well cacooned in the 0.1 per cent. They have NO idea what exists outside their Phd theories spewed forth by Dr Bernank and other Ivy League snobs there is no grasp of reality and wont be until its in their face as a revolution or other such reset. Dont expect anything else, to them a Greek style cluster fuck is ok cuz status quo 'survives' I for one would love to see reset asap
What is the average salary for a government employee again? You really think that federal and state employees are paid what the Bernanke is paid? LMFAO!!!
Moreover, Bernanke works for The Federal Reserve, which is a private bank. What a dumb motherfucker you are.
22% of federal workers make over $100,000.
Right, and now compare that to income of someone in the 0.1% (greater than $750,000). $100,000 is a far cry from $750,000 dipshit. Moreover, that is for only 22% of federal workers, what is the fucking average for 100%?!?!?!? I would be willing to bet that it is nowhere near even $500,000 dollars.
You can always spot the low information voters when they start repeating the same old talking points about what they think public employees do and earn.