Where The Jobs Are: "55 And Older"
A good jobs report? Sure, if one is 55 and over. In December the American jobs gerontocracy continued its relentless course, and as the two charts below summarize since Obama's first term, some 2.7 million jobs in the 16-55 year old category have been lost. The "offset": 4 million jobs for Americans between 55 and 69. For all those young people graduating from college (with $150,000 in student loans) who are unable to get a job, here is our advice: tell your parents, and grandparents, to retire already. Oh wait, they can't because Bernanke destroyed their savings. Oops - better luck next time.
Job "gains" for all Americans 54 and younger vs those 55 and older:
And the same broken down by segment:
Source: BLS
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They voted for it. They wanted the islamo hipster.
Because the alternative wasn't itching to send them into Iran?!
LOL
Neocon many-valued logic and gnat-like attention span; a powerful combo.
We'll ALL be cannon fodder in the next war. Those bombs will be raining down right here in America.
Oh, we're special............that can't happen here. /s
Tell that to a frustrated 24-year-old Chinese soldier. Tell that to 'Pre-emptive' Putin.
Nobody was going to Iran. An Iranian lib slumlord is President - you do know that don't you?
Two choices old coots: (1) give the youngins a bite at the equity apple (ownership) and we'll keep paying into the failed system; or (2) take all our jobs and we'll leech off your peasant wages, occupy your basements, and refuse to show you how to work rudimentary electronic devices... until such time as you "retire".
Hey dipshit, I designed and built a great number of those electronic devices. Suffice it to say I know how they work a whole lot better than you do.
Are you representative of your generation? Are you arguing the exception or the rule?
Seth: You know you can really get trapped in that web of beepers and Zenith televisions and Walkmens and Discmans and floppy discs and zip drives, laser discs, answering machines and Nintendo Power Glove...
Linda: Wow, you know so much about technology.
-Wanderlust
I noticed the burger flippers are getting older. Supersize me, Grandpa!
But but but that's impossible, all the Obamabots are telling me that the old folks are retiring!
They ARE retiring. You are still allowed to earn WalMart greeter wages and keep getting your full SS check. Especially true if you work PART TIME.
Does that clear things up?
About the time you read that and say "but, wait.... if that's true then it's even WORSE than what I thought....." THAT'S when you got the full horror of it.
Everyone seems to be missing the 'good' part of 'good jobs'.
You are not going to get this 'good job' when the 'stupid, lazy, boomer' retires. The 'boomer' was hired 25 or more years ago in an environment where it received pension, medical, dental, etc. benefits on top of a good wage. The corporations have been very good at eliminating these people / positions, but they haven't gotten rid of them all yet. THOSE people are the number showing up as this statistic.
When five of these retire one college grad will be hired at half of one of the retirees wage with no beni's because it is an independent contractor. It will work 80 hours a week doing the work of five people and either burn out or be fired because it cannot complete the work of five people on a week-to-week basis.
So I say we applaud the last of a dying breed as they ride off into the sunset. Their kind will not be seen again
maybe they (>55 yo's) arent lazy, obese, with fat thumbs, can see only three feet to an i-phone screen and cauliflower ears
Or maybe they're so in love with their servitude, they don't know any other way?
More likely are obese and need to keep some means of acquiring blood pressure meds.
Hooligan, We do not have any facial tats metal in our faces or gages in our ears. Have you ever noticed the ears of a gageless person? They look like withered assholes.
hope I live long enough to see the " tats on wrinkles " look the moronielles will be sporting. That oughta be a real hoot !!
so many 25-55 folks went Galt .. living self sufficent lives..out of system. Nobody to loot their wages.
@Jason T
The underground economy is where it's at. If Thomas Jefferson were alive today, he'd be bartering and/or accepting only cash.
right jason,we are living with in our means,debt free, but out of the system? no, we still get hit by property taxes,sales tax, health care cost, rising food and energy cost. the system will get you no matter what you do it's just a matter of how hard you get hit!
Which makes 'LIVIN IN THE BASEMENT'... in reality... a sensible choice... Fuck the 'stigma'... If they're so inclined, let all your phony jerk friends carry the load (while you keep stacking in the basement & bone up on horticulture & engineering)...
I plus'ed you. You're right, it's not easy. I exagerated to see response but seriously, I think smart folks have this desire for sure. I know I do. well, on the front of self sufficiency at least, I still want to contribute to society. Food and energy can totally be done however. Property tax is only concern, just don't live in expensive neighborhood.
Food and energy are my concentration of being self sufficient. Can put a huge dent in that part for sure. Have an electric powered car and have own solar panels to charge, there's your car power.
Home Economics needs a revolution.
you pay no property taxes or health care and you get food stamps and free power when you are out of work PLUS you get u/e benefits this is the chart that explains it all
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-01/meanwhile-americas-other-cliff-...
you only need to work as hard as a shelf stacker to earn the equivalent of 69,000
If greedy CEOs/boards gave up 1-2 cents EPS per quarter and put the money back into all the training programs they ditched between 1985-2005, masses of young people would get work, buy homes, start to invest.
But the cocksuckers are too busy buying 4th and 5th homes.
Back in the 90s the semiconductor co I worked for made everyone take 40 hours of training per year. That stopped in 2001, as employees became a liability.
The youth have more training than ever and are more qualified than their predecessors. CEO's wouldn't even need to give up any EPS to get them into the workforce. The age preference simply needs to be ended. It is illegal. It is immoral. At least "grandpa" has a lifetime of savings and social security/medicare to fall back upon. The young people, nothing except for debt.
Hey, don't forget that this is what WAR is for...to take all those protesting, unemployed youth and put them on the front lines!
And then the old die and the young are dead because of the war... leaving you with... illegal immigrants!
that seems so accurate
A by-product of regulatory capture by the banking cartel, who want to be the only ones allowed to collect interest (money for nothing). Gee, allow mom and dad to actually generate a return by investing their savings and things might have actually turned around (ignoring the energy issue of course). Apparently, allowing anyone, other than the Fed, to collect interest is bad and society is quite comfortable with sacraficing it's children already. This should end well (for those properly positioned). Same as it ever was.
I don't understand this trend. You'd think employers would want the cheap (young and healthy) workers. What am I missing?
Old people actually show up to work
The older workers listen, are courteous, don't wear iPODs, know how to count and make change, and are capable of reading and writing.
+1
Old folks are not texting all day and updating their Facebook page too. ;-)
I had to hire someone about 6 years ago. The young people never even showed up for the interview.
The older person who was hired was there everyday, you could trust them with the keys, they never let you down, etc.
F TV, F Hollywood and F Facebook.
sharky2003,
What you're missing? Medicare or other paid health care.
If you are producing icrap, then yes, you want cheap workers. If you are trying to actually innovate or produce a product of high quality that must be dependable and not break down (like a nuclear reactor), you need intelligent, experienced workers. Could be a good or bad sign for the eCONomy. I still see some serious structural problems out there. Older workers tend to have a much better work ethic as well.
Have you tried to hire and keep a 'young' employee lately?
Most suck, are unreliable, expect to make 100K/year, and have a entitlement mentality.
The single young Moms are the best. They hardley ever show up. Kids sick - no one to look after them. Kid has a doctors appt. no one else to take them.
Not all of them but so many of them fall into this category.
As an employer I get a first hand look at how fucked we are as a country when I look at the younger generation (btw I work with Kids too - don't even get me started).
that is exactly what I have been hearing for years, a young person who is punctual, dresses appropriate for the workplace, and can communicate is gold and will get raises and additional hours and opportunites. So many cannot put together a simple resume.
I was tasked with training two new mechanics (A&P), went out to the plane and as I started setting up all the equipment and get everything going, they had found a spot on the floor in the hangar and spent all the time texting and would ignore everything I told them about what to do. Fortunately was able to get rid of one of them, the other somehow managed to stay on.
I cannot understand the mentality of my peers. As a 'young' employee out of grad school I logged over 100 hours of overtime - unpaid - during my first year at my current job. I figured all that work would safeguard my job during the inevitable firing cycles that happen.
Most people I know have never seen a 40-hour work week, and are living at home out of college, with vague speculations on 'grad school', and the accompanying delusions of grandeur that go with it.
I think the crisis comes from the realization that they will never have what their parents had - home ownership, car ownership, etc... It's a generation of renters. Riches to rags, basically.
(a) none of these jobs come with provided healthcare or any other perk;
(b) the perception of work ethic is that older persons have a better work ethic;
(c) while a young person dreams to achieve greater than these jobs, the old person has no choice, knowing full well that winter is coming and he has yet to squirrel away enough nuts;
(d) experience;
(e) pity; and
(f) supplemental income (young workers have debt/dependent children; older workers have assets/pensions/SS/independent children/etc.)...
among others...
re: (e) pity WTF?
Piety
• a belief or point of view that is accepted with unthinking conventional reverence
Pity... the feeling of sadness or sorrow for the elderly... whereas youngsters get no such thing.
"What am I missing?"
They aren't paying for healthcare for these old folks (the 29-hour per-week McJob) so their age doesn't matter and minimum wage is minimum wage regardless of your age.
The scumiest generation continue their reign.
Maybe the cheap, young, healthy workers can't read?
Maybe the young, healthy workers are making a lot more money slinging dope to you.
At least 55 year olds and up can read and write past a 6th grade level.
I took a part time job 3 months ago rather than sit home and read ZH all day like I was doing.
My mother is thinking about going back to work because her CDs bear so little interest that she can't afford not to. She's 84!
Thanks, Bernanke!
Jobs are over rated! Why work when everything can be free? Oh wait........... I'm a white male.