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Guest Post: Inflation Hits Coffee As Brewers Secretly Swap Robusta For Arabica

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From Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg

Inflation Hits Coffee As Brewers Secretly Swap Robusta for Arabica

This article hit close to home for me.  Literally.  It was just over the holiday season that I mentioned to my mom that her coffee doesn’t taste as good as it used to.  She insisted that she was buying the same blend as always and I insisted it didn’t taste as good.  The conversation ended there.

Then I came across the following article and everything started to make sense.  From the Daily Finance:

Reuters is reporting that many of America’s major brands have been quietly tweaking their coffee blends. While most coffee companies consider their blends trade secrets, and are loath to disclose exactly what goes into them, both circumstantial and direct evidence suggests they’re now substituting lower-grade Robusta beans for some of their pricier Arabica, and degrading the quality of our coffee.

Research out of agricultural bank Rabobank confirms that demand for Arabica beans among coffee buyers “has fallen 27% year-to-date, while Robusta [demand] is 25% higher.” This seems to confirm a widespread alteration of the bean mix.

Why the switcheroo? Prepare to not be shocked. The answer is: price.

Now here’s the kicker of the article.


When you get right down to it, if there’s more Robusta in our coffee but people still find it drinkable, and the coffee’s getting a bit cheaper in consequence, where’s the harm?

What’s the harm?  I didn’t think whether coffee was “drinkable” or not was the point of drinking coffee.  The harm is this is just another example of standards of living being eroded by inflation.  Inflation that we are told doesn’t exist.  Just another day in Oceania…

Full article here.


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Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:59 | 3128121 Salon
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I prefer the coffee That is shit out of that cat-like creature.

The civet. I believe.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:46 | 3128069 Spastica Rex
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I make my own coffee. It costs pennies per cup.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:47 | 3128071 FreeMktFisherMN
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Of course the Phd. economists will maintain that these price spikes for commodities owe to supply/demand fluctuations, and obfuscate the truth that a huge 'ingredient' in the price increases is the inflation CBs have created through money printing. 

I'm pondering buying some JO actually. Looks like it could be bottoming, but who knows?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:51 | 3128089 mercenaryomics
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Yeah this will fall under the Fed's standard hollistic CPI adjustments I'm sure.

"Coffee prices aren't rising, they're falling! Now move along, no inflation to see here."

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:58 | 3128117 FreeMktFisherMN
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People do not understand inflation. They think the dollar is impenetrable. They don't get that in many cases prices ought to be not just stable over time, but actually falling. The roaring 20s had inflation even though nominal prices weren't going up, because prices should have fallen further. And of course ultimately that inflation the Fed created then led to the malinvestment and eventual crash, exacerbated and prolonged by socialist/isolationist policies of course.


The inflation will be showing up soon way beyond the 10% or so estimate or whatever Shadowstats says,  as those 'reserves' sitting on banks balance sheets get lent out and cycled through. And, for that matter, there are already tons of dollars that foreign CBs will dump, too, and it wouldn't matter if the Fed printed more, as there already are so many 'dollars.' The dollar has a ticking time bomb on it. 

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:03 | 3128130's picture


10% or so estimate or whatever Shadowstats says.



Dollar Sell-off and Hyperinflation by 2014 – John Williams



Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:19 | 3128181 BlueCheeseBandit
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This past week, WSJ had some shitty hit piece about how awful Ag Comma did in 2012. Of course, performance was similar to equities (although lagging near end of year) if you look at the assets as a whole using DBA or RJA. But they only talked about sugar, cotton, and coffee, the worst performing ones of the year.

So I bought JO and it was up 4% after the debt ceiling debacle.

Thanks mainstream media. Reversing your advice for the win.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:50 | 3128083 Moe Howard
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I take my coffee shaken, not stirred. Who can taste the beans with a shot of red eye in it?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:05 | 3128135's picture

That's my favorite cocktail as coffee is the only mixer I commonly have in the house. Ersatz speedball.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:51 | 3128085 Seasmoke
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Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:51 | 3128091 Joebloinvestor
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Wait till you put E15 in your tank.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:05 | 3128136 foxmuldar
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I think it was E15 in my coffee on Friday instead of coffee beans. 

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:19 | 3128176 lakecity55
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Ha. Wait 'til E20. You can drink it or burn it.

Why not just go all the way to Everclear?


Damn. Sorry, Knuckles, I gave 'em another idea.


Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:26 | 3128195 knukles
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What a way to go... stop at the local Quickie Mart to fill the car and the Ball jars from the same nozzle.



Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:53 | 3128098 chump666
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Money printers, you f*cking a-holes.

I love my coffee, there you go Mexican narco nutcases, new market for ya

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:43 | 3128229 cxl9
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You're complaining about the hidden adulteration of products in a centrally-planned economy, but call the Mexican narcotraficantes "nutcases" when they're supplying a quality product to willing consumers?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:59 | 3128267 chump666
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Well you know, we don't go around cutting off heads, skinning hostages, carving out someones dick and balls etc etc etc.

The Mexican narcos basically are the raw cannibalistic version of capitalism.  In other words, great nations, economic power bases, hell even the Aztecs.  All went down that path i.e they devoured themselves.

With the central planned madness and the lower levels of insane behavior (Mexican cartels) going into overkill.  We may not make into the level of evolution.  

Is their coke quality?  I'd say their oil racketeering will lead to civil war in Mexico in the near future.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:14 | 3128300 SILVERGEDDON

But - but - but - they got gun control what would make any libtard come all over their pants. What went wrong with all that ?

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 03:03 | 3128892 Just Ice
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Gee, just the typical result...gun ban took the guns away from law abiding folks and at best was a small speed bump to overcome for the criminals who never had any lack of weapons...especially with Eric Holder's help supplying them

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:45 | 3128372 cxl9
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Well, at least the narcotraficantes are mostly only killing each other. It's not as if they're dropping bombs on women and children from airborne drones thousands of miles away ..

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:32 | 3128508 chump666
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I agree.


Mon, 01/07/2013 - 02:35 | 3128850 Just Ice
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"narcotraficantes are mostly only killing each other"

Yeah, right.  Where've you been? ,

But at least the drug trade has allowed law enforcement north of the border to also earn some extra cash 

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:57 | 3128113 lakecity55
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I think we need to disguise ourselves and go onto those ships at night and toss all the Robusto beans Overboard!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:06 | 3128140's picture

But let's not dress as Indians. Who can afford the solid gold shirt?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:14 | 3128161 lakecity55
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I saw that story, too.

I was thinking "low information voter" disguises.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:38 | 3128740 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Sun, 01/06/2013 - 19:57 | 3128114 Moe Howard
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Chock full o'Nuts contains no nuts. Who would have thought?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:02 | 3128129 foxmuldar
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You just finding that out. haha!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:05 | 3128137 Moe Howard
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You got me. Yes, the yellow top had it printed on there.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:19 | 3128180 knukles
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Chock Full o' No Nuts?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:45 | 3128233 ShrNfr
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Well, Maxwell House does not contain a house, so I guess it is just in keeping with industry practice. I refuse to buy that shit after having breathed it for four years in Hoboken, NJ. We lived 4 blocks from the plant. Of course, it could have been worse. You could smell the pigs in Secaucus from the NJ Turnpike.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:06 | 3128141 Joebloinvestor
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What about Grape Nuts?

No grapes 

No nuts.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:01 | 3128125 foxmuldar
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I like to stop at WaWa on my way to work each morning for my cup of Coffee and maybe a donut. This past Friday after getting to work and taking a sip of my brew I had to dump it all down the drain. Tasted like mud. In the mornings, WaWa is always busy so there wasn't any reason for a regular cup of coffee to taste stale. Unless of course the employee making the coffee was too lazy to rinse out the pots. When I can't get that fresh cup of coffee in the morning, my day goes downhill fast. I'd rather pay more for the real thing. 

Im mad as hell and Im not going to take it anymore. I wan't all of you to open your windows and yell out loud. I want my fresh coffee and I want it now. 

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:04 | 3128134 Moe Howard
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Does WaWa contain WeWe?

Seriously, I had to look up what the fuck a WaWa was.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:58 | 3128263 ThisIsBob
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This coffee tasts like dirt!

Well it was just ground this morning.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:40 | 3128747 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Two words. French press. Get one.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:04 | 3128132 donkshover
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I've had most of my taste buds removed ( not covered by insurance) and very happy with Mrs Olsen and  Folgers in the morning.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:07 | 3128142 Moe Howard
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She could make coffee but nobody would slip her the salami if you know what I mean. Wink wink.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:13 | 3128159 buzzsaw99
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Ironically it was when Folgers prices went up so much that I started looking around. I get much better coffee now for the same (higher) price. Suck it J.M. Smucker!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:19 | 3128177 cbxer55
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I like Folgers Black Silk. It's all I drink, price not worrying yet. Have not noticed the taste getting worse yet either.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:36 | 3128208 buzzsaw99
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You won't. Folgers is pure Robusta and I drank it for decades. When the price went up a few years ago I started buying beans from Sam's. Since then the price of Folgers has come back down but I won't go back because I felt like they were trying to squeeze me back then and I hold a grudge a long time.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:09 | 3128149 mckee
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Seattle coffee party bitchez!!!!!


Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:09 | 3128151 glenlloyd
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They've been lying about it for quite a while now, there's not enough Arabica to fill all the coffee bags in the world that claim they're 100% Arabica. I'm surprised no one has taken them to task on it before.

Arabica plants produce much less coffee per year than Robusto...but Robusto has a wicked level of caffiene and crap flavor IMO.

Like the USD they've been debasing Arabica for quite a while now.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:19 | 3128179 djsmps
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Kroger's has been jacking up prices 25-40% on everything from food to cat litter. Then they put on a sticker that says "New Low Price!"

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:02 | 3128274 Moe Howard
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You also get to pay double unless you got the fucking Kroger Card.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:22 | 3128317 XitSam
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Randomly swap loyalty cards with other people. It messes with their data mining. Or listen to other people in line give their phone number instead of the card and write it down. Also, get a new card giving no info or fake info.

Every store sells your info and purchases to data miners, as well as doing their own data mining. Letting them have your phone number lets the trackers tie your retail purchases with your web browsing. Never give your (real) phone number.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:42 | 3128750 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Better pay cash my man. They ask the first time to verify and match with your CC/DEBT card data, and they match off the card after that. And it's not my web browsing, it the neighbors.....

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 08:08 | 3129048 XitSam
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Good point, any way they can link it they will. And I do pay cash.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 02:36 | 3128871 Dave Thomas
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I routinely find them cards in the parking lot, I rotate about 5~6 around, you can also ask the customer service desk for a new set without filling it out.

Some states require you to get the discount if you ask without becoming a member.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:21 | 3128186 SanOvaBeach
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I don't know where this came from, but the headline on this article is wrong.  Aribica coffee beans are superior to robusta's.  It is reversed in the headline.  Another fuck-up brought to you by ZH.  Does anybody edit the shit that somebody puts on the grill?   Probably not!  ZH, for mis-information!  All you fuck'in idiots out there, your just eat'in up!  Burma Shave

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:33 | 3128201 IridiumRebel
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I buy my coffee online and it saves me money. I love coffee.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:38 | 3128212 SanOvaBeach
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I do have my own website, ASSHOLE.  Not 2 give the url because your 2 u  stupiod to b on it!  FUCK U ASSHOLE..............

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:54 | 3128254 IridiumRebel
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What are you talking about? I was just mentioning how I get my coffee. You are very angry. Drink less coffee.....






made ya look

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:04 | 3128277 SanOvaBeach
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I am frustrated, more than angry over the incrediable ignorance on this blog! Burma Shave

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:04 | 3128419 foxmuldar
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Why are you here? haha!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 06:08 | 3128985 lakecity55
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Cool. How do they get it through the cable to your house?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:33 | 3128204 SanOvaBeach
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Your cowards!  Defend your position, asshole slimeballs!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:26 | 3128194 SanOvaBeach
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Should be, substituting aribica for robusta, you stupid fucK!!!!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:31 | 3128202 suteibu
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Too much caffine, pal?  From the looks of the comments, it seems everybody else got it but you.  So...who's the stupid fuck!!!!!!1111!!!!eleventy!!?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:45 | 3128231 SanOvaBeach
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Your the stupid fuck, along with the idiot ZH'ers that think robusts beans are better.  Ingnorance is bliss!  I'm glad your happy!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:11 | 3128290 akak
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But robusta beans are more robust!  So they simply HAVE to be better, right?

I mean, those other coffee beans are arabica --- they're fucking ARAB!  Probably terrorist beans.  Don't you know they hate us for our coffee makers!  That's why we have to brew them over there, so we won't have to brew them over here.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:48 | 3128382 SanOvaBeach
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Your comments are really witty!  But the question is, when r u gonna move away from home, loser.................

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:18 | 3128704 awakening
Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:49 | 3128243 ThisIsBob
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Who cares?

Mass market American coffee is to good coffee as a quarter pounder is to good beef.

Patronize a local artesian roaster.  Better coffee, better karma.


Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:52 | 3128244 johnlaw1971
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Has anyone reread 1984 recently? The parallels are striking. I believe it correctly predicts what happens next.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:01 | 3128270 SanOvaBeach
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R these 5 fingers or four? 

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 23:26 | 3128628 goldfish1
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pray do tell

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:51 | 3128246 Never One Roach
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It's that the dollar is worth less, rather then the price of coffee 'went up.'

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:53 | 3128251 SanOvaBeach
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Come on, stupid ZH'ers that think robusta beans are better that aribica!

Burma Shave

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:47 | 3128758 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Ahhh, young proto-troll...... Lookup MDB, and come back when you learn how to be a PROPER troll.

MDB, we miss ya, come back when your done being Trav777

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 01:32 | 3128815 CaptainObvious
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I'm thinking the title of this article should be changed from "Inflation Hits Coffee As Brewers Secretly Swap Robusta for Arabica" to "Inflation Hits Zero Hedge as The Tylers Secretly Swap SanOvaBean for Million Dollar Bonus".

Dammit, Tylers, give us the higher grade trolls!  You think we can't taste the difference?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:53 | 3128252 balz
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As Brewers Secretly Swap Robusta For Arabica ?

You mean :

As Brewers Secretly Swap Arabica for Robusta
Sun, 01/06/2013 - 20:59 | 3128265 SanOvaBeach
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There might be a microphone under your bed from the coffee robusta/arabica org.    See: aribica/

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:40 | 3128357 akak
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You didn't do very well in English in school, did you?

Why would they want to swap the HIGHER grade product for the lesser one?
You have it backwards.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:42 | 3128364 SanOvaBeach
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Your an assshollle still living with your mommie!  Did your mommie fold your underwear alright?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:47 | 3128374 akak
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"My an asshole"?

What are you trying to say here? 
Could it possibly be "YOU ARE an asshole"?  You know, "YOU'RE an asshole?

"You are an asshole", right?


Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:52 | 3128389 SanOvaBeach
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Answer the question, hotshot!  When r u gonna move out of mommies's place and have your own pad?  Not 4 a long time!  So easy 2 b a jerk on ZH.....................

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:16 | 3128416 cbxer55
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Exactly what you are. #1 example of a ZH jerk. Good job, Ace!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:23 | 3128475 SanOvaBeach
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Same 2 u loser!  When r u gonna move out of the bedroom u grew-up in?  Oh, by the way, fuck u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:25 | 3128485 SanOvaBeach
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Kiss my apple pie!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:05 | 3128282 Moe Howard
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Speaking of coffee, gold is up $1.30. Thanks China.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:07 | 3128288 captain_menace
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What an ungrateful child... 'mom, your coffee tastes bad.' 

Shut up, finish your coffee, and go to bed.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:15 | 3128301 SanOvaBeach
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By the way, the best tasting non-flavored coffee is 100% Kona coffee from the Islands.  It is upwards of $2.00 an oz.  I buy it direct from Lyons Coffee in the Islands.  The best flavored is the toasted cocanut from the same supplier.  The rest of you stupid rednecks can enjoy your robusta beans from Starbucks!  Your so stupid that u don't know the difference.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:15 | 3128302 BigInJapan
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COSTCO Japan sells a deli roll called the High Roller. Delicious stuff. Anyway, I had noticed that they were putting fewer pieces in the box so I aske the deli guy about it. He lied right to my face and said there was absolutely no change. I stopped buying from him.
Last week I looked at it and the the pieces are now cut shorter - a good 1/3 less food overall.
And they say Japan suffers from deflation.

The 250ml Red Bull is now 210ml - in the same fucking can, no less.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:55 | 3128397 SanOvaBeach
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Really good observation.  I don't pay as much attention as Im should!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:21 | 3128315 surf0766
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next will be the rationing panels for coffee.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:23 | 3128320 They Tried to S...
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STARBUCKS has kept the price the same for its baked goods like the 

pumpkin slice and banana sliced breads......but they have shrunk by about 35 to 40% 

---- The Baristas acknowledge it ---------


STEALTH INFLATION to those that are not mindful 

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:29 | 3128337 yogibear
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Wake me up when coffee gets so outrageously expensive that substitutes are used.

All throughout history there were substitutes.  When people stop buying prices drop.

Nobody is willing to cutback, so producers  keep raising prices.

In World War IIacorns were used to make coffee. During the American Civil War coffee was also scarce in the South.


Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:29 | 3128338 devo
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Just did grocery shopping today. High food inflation this week.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 21:34 | 3128347 ebworthen
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My Folgers tastes the same, so I don't care.

Too many fancy pants dumb-shits spending $20/lb on overpriced coffee and Starbucks and the like.

Yes, we are still in recession and depression, but things won't get really real until people refuse to overpay for coffee and send their dogs and cats to the pound or the Chinese food restaurant because they are hungry.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:52 | 3128553 SanOvaBeach
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I have brewed some of the best coffee's in the world, but never, ever paid $20.00 a pound!  Your head is up your ass, like all good rednecks.  Your tastebuds r dead!  Have a nice, blissfull, dumb-fuck life, you idiot!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 07:41 | 3129034 rodocostarica
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By the way, the best tasting non-flavored coffee is 100% Kona coffee from the Islands. It is upwards of $2.00 an oz. I buy it direct from Lyons Coffee in the Islands.


hey sanovabeach. So you are quoted here as paying $2.00 per ounce for your coffee but never paid over $20.00 per pound. What weight system do you use? 16 ounces in a pound times $2.00 per ounce should equal $24.00 per pound.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 09:40 | 3129172 Sparkey
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Everyone can't do the math like you can, do you have a degree in math or something? What brand of calculator do you use?

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:04 | 3128399 williambanzai7
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This is funny because just a couple of days ago I looked into this. I was at the supermarket and noticed a new brand of cheap Australian coffee. I usually buy a cheap Indonesian brand that tastes good, but this was even cheaper and I'm always looking to experiment.

I tried it out and it tasted burnt. So I started reading up and noticed the reports about Arabica versus Robusta and read this particular article, which I believe I retweeted.

The long or short of it. I was not going to throw the can out and started experimenting. Low and behold, 4 days later it tastes very good. Not great, but very good. There are three variables: amount of coffee, sugar and cream versus milk. You can also mix in other instant coffee blends as needed. If I add ice it tastes super!

One can of this stuff is cheaper than a grande latte at Starbucks and will last a month.

Now consider this. Coffee can be addictive. If you are familiar with the coffee industry, you will know the kind of scam they are running.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:09 | 3128427 SanOvaBeach
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Always look'in for the best brew.  The best in non-flavored i've found is 100% Kona.  Tell me if you found something as good and less expensive.  ps. by  the way, your t-shirte are really kool and so is your political art.  Plse keep it up!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:24 | 3128713 respect the cock
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I haven't tried Kona yet. Get most of my coffee from Costco. Pretty good thus far.

Any of you guys brew with a Moccamaster? Makes great joe!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:19 | 3128459 ForTheWorld
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Caffeine is a drug a lot of people won't admit they're addicted to, and a lot don't even notice because of the amount of coffee or Coke that they consume.

I generally purchase my own beans from a coffee shop that has a great blend of beans, but now I've found a source of green beans that I can roast myself to cover the three cups of coffee a week I drink.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:52 | 3128770 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Three cups? That won't get me to my car in the morning! I need 4 just to take a decent shit before work. 

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 06:00 | 3128978 lakecity55
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so, what weirdo country do you live in, sir?

Can I interest you in a new item, espresso?

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 02:14 | 3128847 dogbreath
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Out of respect for your talents and mynot having spent a cent to be entertained by you I would gladly DHL you a pound of my local roasters excellent craft.   Not that some packaged brand is undrinkable its just that once you know what good coffee is...........the rest is not good coffee.


The offer stands

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 05:59 | 3128976 lakecity55
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Banzai please do a photo shop of Patriots throwing robustos over the ship, ie, the 'coffee partee.'



Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:02 | 3128410 Roscoe
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I cut open a few of the beans in a bag my wife bought this weekend. Three of them were simply brown painted tungsten. No wonder my grinder is getting trashed.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:21 | 3128466 rokka
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Here goes typical idiotic statement about coffee and inflation.

Coffee prices has fallen almost 50% in 2012


Mon, 01/07/2013 - 02:18 | 3128851 dogbreath
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Thats not what the local roaster pays for Maui #1  or Kenya AAA or Columbian Supremo or Yemen Mocha when its available. 


Thats the benchmark price for Vietnamese or Brasilian Brand name blended coffee

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 02:19 | 3128853 dogbreath
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Yemen Mocha  <------ the origin of the coffee bean.  It all started there.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:27 | 3128473 One World Mafia
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The plant has a shallow root system and grows as a robust tree or shrub to about 10 metres. It flowers irregularly, taking about 10–11 months for cherries to ripen, producing oval-shaped beans. The robusta plant has a greater crop yield than that of C. arabica, and contains more caffeine - 2.7% compared to arabica's 1.5%.[2] As it is less susceptible to pests and disease, robusta needs much less herbicide and pesticide than arabica.

Roasted robusta beans produce a strong, full-bodied coffee with a distinctive earthy flavour, but usually with more bitterness than arabica due to its pyrazine organic compound.[9][10] Since arabica beans are believed to have smoother (some people consider Arabica too acidic though) taste with a richer flavour, they are often considered superior, while the harsher robusta beans are mostly used as a filler in lower-grade coffee blends.[11][12] However, the powerful flavour can be desirable in a blend to give it perceived "strength" and "finish", noticeably in Italian coffee culture. Good-quality robusta beans are used in traditional Italian espresso blends, to provide a full-bodied taste and a better foam head (known as crema).

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:42 | 3128531 SanOvaBeach
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I've noticed a robusta bean content of many of the Italian blends I've purchased.  Many of the robusta Italian blends have been quite good.  But, up 2 now, Kona is my favorite at $2.00+ an oz.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:54 | 3128774 Tijuana Donkey Show
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The only thing I pay top $$$ by the ounce for isn't coffee my man. I hear the Kona is pretty good, and the coffee isn't half bad.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:32 | 3128505 Mr. Lucky
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Value engineering bitchez.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:37 | 3128519 Miffed Microbio...
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Coffee is the last decedent pleasure I refuse to let go. Well, sex too but that's free so it doesn't count ( well at least I think it's free, please don't go blow my illusions). 6 months ago I paid $11.00/lb for premium French roast. It still tastes the same but today it's $15/ lb. I tend to like it strong but I've been adjusting my bur grinder finer to use less. I just can't go to "cuppa nail filings" I'd rather drink damn tea. Makes me sick to say it.


Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:46 | 3128544 SanOvaBeach
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Try Kona, 100%.  Stay away from the blended.  U might find it tasty, but unfortunatley, expensive.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 02:27 | 3128861 dogbreath
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French Roast is a roast and not the coffee.  You could french roast a Columbian supremo or a Javaese and they would be different.  Increaseing the roasted level makes the bean oily and in low grade coffee makes the flavour consistent ala Starfucks and Tim Hortons etc.  

I am a fan of fresh roasted single origin coffees made in a Melita manual drip cone filter.  I notice my 15-25 dollar a pound fresh roasted cofee doesent taste the same after 2-3 weeks.  40 or so cups of top quality coffee for 15-25 bucks.  Cheaper than Starfucks.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:30 | 3131227 Miffed Microbio...
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Your are correct . I get my coffee at whole foods. I believe Allegra coffee is a subsidiary. They still claim to be 100% arabica. My absolutely favorite coffee is Mountain Thunder 100% Kona. All roasts are to die for! Their belief if you have to put cream and sugar in it it isn't good coffee. Unfortunately it's way out of my price range. I buy 2lbs for Xmas for a treat.
Taste it and you'll be hooked!


Sun, 01/06/2013 - 22:49 | 3128549 Roscoe
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This whole thing is going to end up like crab, when they starting adding ground up Simpson fish as filler, added some red plastic strips and spelled the concoction with a 'K'. "Genuine Krab Meat".  Now kids think it's the real deal. Next up: Koffee. "Genuine Simpson Fish Koffee." I bet ADM/Monsanto own the DNA Patent on the Simpson fish. We're closer to a Soylent Green moment than we realize. "Krab and Koffee are people!"

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 23:11 | 3128589 SanOvaBeach
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I've just invested in a company that is going to put Soylant Green@ into coffee.  I really don't give a fuck since I get all my coffee from overseas.  As long as I make money, fuck the stupid rednecks!

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 23:41 | 3128655's picture

So that's what happened to Mrs. Olsen.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 23:21 | 3128611 Missiondweller
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This is only half of it.

They quit selling coffee by thepound in the US and "downsized" to 12 ounces. Some coffees are selling in 11 ounce bags now. Where will this end?

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 05:52 | 3128975 lakecity55
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1 bean in a shrink wrap.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 23:33 | 3128639 goldfish1
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For growing Arabica coffee beans, there are two optimal growing climates:

  1. The subtropical regions, at high altitudes of 16-24° (Illy, 21).  Rainy and dry seasons must be well defined, and altitude must be between 1800-3600 feet.  These conditions result in one coffee growing season and one maturation season, usually in the coldest part of autumn.  Mexico, Jamaica, the S. Paulo and Minas Gerais regions in Brazil, and Zimbabwe are examples of areas with these climate conditions (Illy, 21).

  2. The equatorial regions at latitudes lower than 10° and altitudes of 3600-6300 feet (Illy, 21).  Frequent rainfall causes almost continuous flowering, which results in two coffee harvesting seasons.  The period of highest rainfall determines the main harvesting period, while the period of least rainfall determines the second harvest season. Because rainfall is too frequent for patio drying to occur,  artificial drying with mechanical dryers is performed in this type of coffee growing environment. Examples of countries that have this climate are Kenya, Colombia, and Ethiopia (Illy, 21).

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 07:45 | 3129036 rodocostarica
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goldfish. Your info is correct. I live in climate one and can  assure you we have good quality. Costa Rica forbids growing Robusta. All arabica and great shit here.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 00:37 | 3128739 secret_sam
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       When you get right down to it, if there’s more Robusta in our coffee but people still find it drinkable, and the coffee’s getting a bit cheaper in consequence, where’s the harm?

In the USA, it's not about finding it drinkable.  'Merkins, on average, DON'T LIKE COFFEE. 

We should be pleased, in the statistical aggregate, that our coffee should generally decline in flavor over time.  Put some flavored syrup and some more sugar, it's really delicious.

(Is whipped cream asking too much?  A dash of cinnamon?)

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 01:43 | 3128823 jonjon831983
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Now consider this as the "no such thing as inflation and we're stretching out supplies" argument:


  • Pink Slime.
  • Needling beef.
  • Extending expiration dates.
Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:50 | 3131441 ejhickey
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"Extending expiration dates."

wow. i hadn't thought about that.  i have been wondering why the milk tasted funny. 

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 01:42 | 3128824 resurger
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Timmy's still taste good!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 03:22 | 3128900 ebworthen
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Coffee is like beer and wine; good stuff to be had for much less than "prestige" brands, but people buy the brand because they want to be seen and known as drinking prestige, and think of themselves as prestige. 

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 11:14 | 3129402 shovelhead
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Burn the beans and charge $4.00 bucks for a Starbucks 'hip' coffee.

Stuff tastes like shit.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 04:12 | 3128932 TheObsoleteMan
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Quality is something that has been slowly dying out in every aspect of the American life {for the middle class at least}. I remember when Eagle brand shirts were made in Philly, the cut on them was perfect. Now they are made in China. Florsheim shoes were made in Chicago and fit your feet like a glove. They didn't wear out for 25 years with a little care {and re-soles}. Now they are made in India, and aren't half the shoe the old ones were. A whole generation of Americans {under 40} have grown up on inferior quality products, and don't even realize the difference. I am not surprised to hear about the coffee situation. It is just a natural progression toward lesser quality. Before it is over, we will all be drinking chicory. Robusto beans will be a luxury item.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 06:07 | 3128983 ebworthen
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I hear you.

Tried to find a decent pair of winter boots for my daughter; all made in China out of dog chew toy plastic and plastic on top with a whisper of leather somewhere.  Absolute crap.

My own shoes, even tennis shoes, last me six months if I'm lucky when they used to last me two years at least.

Planned obsolescence and cheaply made crap; one of the many cogs in the machine of the kleptoligarchy.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 05:47 | 3128971 ILoveTheWorld
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Shortage induced price hikes are not the same as inflation. PLEASE.

This is about cllimate changes that will make Arabica extinct.



Mon, 01/07/2013 - 06:08 | 3128984 ebworthen
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Oh Good Lord did you have to drag in that dead cat to beat over the dead horse of climate change?

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 06:26 | 3128996 ILoveTheWorld
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Why don't you go and tell south manhattans about that dead cat? oh right. that's not climate, just normal weather.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 12:00 | 3129555 ebworthen
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Actually, it is normal weather beyond the span of the life of humans that build on the coast.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 06:16 | 3128991 Sechel
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Why stop there, why not add chicory.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 07:41 | 3129032 Crassus
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Yes, chicory root makes any coffee drinkable. Time honored U.S. military antidote to bad coffee.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 10:18 | 3129242 sansnobel
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And when toilet paper becomes too expensive you can hedonicly adjust and start using your hand to wipe your ass.  See, It's as if the price never changed.  Voila

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 11:11 | 3129396 toomanyfakecons...
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Only Kona... nothing else will do.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 11:34 | 3129463 Skip
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I would agree but Hawaii took a big hit from Fuku so am a bit leery of Kona for now.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 11:31 | 3129456 Skip
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I've noticed this myself, now, thanks to Tyler, I know why.

There is no morality at all, it is all just the SCREW YOU ideology.

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