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Greek Banks To Merkel: "Please Ma'am, Can We Have Some Moar", Or Here Comes Bailout #4

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As loathed as we are to say "we told you so," but we did and sure enough eKathimerini is reporting this evening that: thanks to the 'voluntary' haircuts the Greek banks were force-fed via the latest buyback scheme and the political uncertainty causing non-performing loans (NPLs) to rise (in a magically unknowable way), they will need significantly more 'capital' to plug their increasingly leaky boats. The original Blackrock report from a year did not foresee a rise in NPLs (which Ernst & Young now estimates stands at 24% of all loans) and the buyback dramatically reduces the expected profitability of the banks as it removes critical interest payments that would have been due. Whocouldanode? Well, plenty of people who did not just buy-in blindly to the promise of future hockey-stick returns to growth. Expectations are now for the Greek bank recap to be over EUR30bn.

 

Via eKathimerini,

The country’s main banks are considering requesting additional funds for their recapitalization.

 

Senior bank officials say that the rapid deterioration in financial conditions caused by the back-to-back elections in mid-2012 has led to a greater increase in nonperforming loans than originally foreseen in the BlackRock report a year ago. They add that banks should proceed to greater share capital increases in order to respond to the new reality.

 

Ernst & Young estimates that nonperforming loans in Greece approached 24 percent of all loans at the end of 2012.

 

The bond buyback dealt another great blow to the credit sector that has made a revision of the capital requirements necessary. The Bank of Greece had estimated that operating profits for National, Alpha, Eurobank and Piraeus for the 2012-14 period would amount to 11.09 billion euros, which had been excluded from the calculation of the lenders’ capital needs. One of the main sources of those future revenues would have been the interest from the bonds amounting to 16 billion euros that banks had in their portfolios. However, the so-called voluntary sale of the bonds entailed a loss of those revenues for the banks.

 

According to estimates for the country’s four main banks, the buyback signifies a revenue reduction of at least 1.5 billion euros, thereby increasing their capital requirements. The Bank of Greece has announced that the four systemic banks will need in the region of 27.5 billion euros for their recapitalization, but if that estimate on the buyback is upheld, the bill will reach up to at least 29 billion euros.

 

The four lenders’ losses from the credit risk (including loans in Greece and abroad) are estimated at 14.58 billion euros, but if the deepening of the recession is factored in, the losses would grow by about 10 to 20 percent and the capital needs would expand by between 1.5 and 3 billion euros.

 

As a result the capital stock of 5 billion euros formed by the Bank of Greece for future needs may have to be used immediately by the big banks, eventually taking the total bill of the recapitalization process to over 30 billion euros.

 

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Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:26 | 3131216 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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Truely a bottomless pit.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:33 | 3131224 SafelyGraze
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butt not to neglect ireland

spoiler: it's a variant of the teaser image from the front page

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:59 | 3131312 francis_sawyer
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Aww man!... I was really hoping the LARGER PIC would have a nice camel toe...

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:37 | 3131537 wee-weed up
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Yeah, dammit Tyler... talk about truth in advertising - we want to see moar of her!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:49 | 3131437 a growing concern
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Thank you, kind sir.  I was feeling like I'd been tricked into clicking on this article.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 23:19 | 3131615 NoControl
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Use tineye.com

point to the pic's URL

and you get other sites that have a varient of this pic.

Like this one that has a larger version of her

http://pitsirikos.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/%CE%92%CE%BF%CF%8D%CE%B...

Ta-Da!

 

No camel-toe though :(

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 01:26 | 3131935 SafelyGraze
Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:10 | 3131480 ZeroAvatar
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Wow!  I can see goosebumps on her right cheek!

 

What is this, 2012 all over again?  I say we all just sign off until 2014.  It's just gonna be the same shit all over again, anyway.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 01:03 | 3131871 Manthong
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Lots out there: Paraskevi "Voula" Papachristou  

The last Olympics was not hard on the eyes at all.   :-D

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 07:50 | 3132273 SmallerGovNow2
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SWEET....

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:36 | 3131252 CPL
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Awesome!  And Bullish.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:53 | 3131291 yogibear
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It worked! The Greeks and Spanish have themselves a sugar daddy chump.

Spain and Greece keep coming back for more money and go shopping.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:31 | 3131402 ball-and-chain
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I don't blame Greece.

Take what you can.

Then stick it to the Krauts.

Screw the Nazi bastards.

http://www.angrysinner.blogspot.kr/2013/01/saturday_7.html

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 08:19 | 3132305 From Germany Wi...
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I no worried. Euro collapse, currency reform, Germany has still the products the world wants.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 01:45 | 3131750 cranky-old-geezer
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Truely a bottomless pit.

Black hole comes to mind.  Sucking in everything coming near it, even light.

Money Pit.  Like that Tom Hanks movie.   More money they pour into it, more problems they find.

It's a really sick joke now.  4 years of bailout after bailout, needing more bailouts.

They really need to let banks die, clear the bad debt, wipe out the worthless bonds, clear the crap out of the system, financial enema.

But "they" are bankers themselves, cant let their cronies go down, gotta keep the game going at any cost ...long as someone else pays that cost (taxpayers).

They're gonna bring nations to their knees letting 'em load up with so much debt.  

Maybe that's the plan.

Euro is finished.  ECB will print euros to infinity to keep the sovereign debt game going, keep bailing out banks as that sovereign debt loses collateral value.  Just a matter of time now.

USD is finished.  Fed will print dollars to infinity to keep the sovereign debt game going here, keep bailing out banks here as that sovereign debt loses collateral value.  Just a matter of time now.

Yen is finished.  Same reason.  Just a matter of time now.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 04:05 | 3132142 Ghordius
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yes. and yet all fiat is a matter of time

and all financial transaction, money, the works, are about bridging time, exchanging the present for the future or the other way round

it's all a market of time preferences

the question is only until when - in the case of gold, for example, this "bridging" works since 6'000 years

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:26 | 3131219 cougar_w
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The Greeks are the ones calling the shots now. There will be no end to it.

Whoever defaults first defaults best.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:41 | 3131263 Hedgerow-
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Iceland?

 

WINNING!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:55 | 3131297 Getting Old Sucks
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Let's not ruin the the status quo with logic now.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:11 | 3131359 Freddie
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Well I guess the Vikings would have kicked the Spartans arses.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 00:42 | 3131829 zorba THE GREEK
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Please pass the straws Germany so that we Greeks can partake of more

of your delicious milkshake.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 05:42 | 3132195 Nussi34
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Let´s bomb the useless Greeks!

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 08:21 | 3132309 From Germany Wi...
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No. (Besides there isn't anything left to bomb anyway.)
Let's just cut them free from the Euro and allow them to run their country the way they want it. And live with the consequences.

Wed, 01/09/2013 - 09:29 | 3135925 Nussi34
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>>>Let's just cut them free from the Euro and allow them to run their country the way they want it. And live with the consequences.

Let´s cut every country freem from the EUSSR!

 

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:27 | 3131221 nmewn
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When you find yourself in the bottom of a hole...

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:34 | 3131244 Caviar Emptor
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Maybe we should just send over the spare cash in Ben's cookie jar

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:43 | 3131267 chump666
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NY Fed is way ahead of you, re-cap'ing the ECB monthly and then the ECB has been flowing onto every junk bank in Europe.

Lenin would be laughing his rotten, decayed ass off.  We went commie crony style.

Russian collapse style...

Nasty.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:53 | 3131290 nmewn
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Yes, its everywhere and will end with the same result...bodies in the streets.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:31 | 3131232 Peter Pan
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Perhaps a return to the drachma will enable the Greek banks to recapitalise a lot more easily.

Not that Europe is happy or willing for that to happen.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:33 | 3131236 Caviar Emptor
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Hey, U.S. got QE4. So bailout #4 is Only fair. 

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:37 | 3131254 yogibear
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Benrnake, Evans, Dudley and Yellen are stuck doing QE to infinity.

The ECB is stuck doing Greek and Spanish bailouts to infinity!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:15 | 3131492 ZeroAvatar
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I guess we can look forward to at least 10 bailouts, then? (create 'smiley-face' here)

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:35 | 3131247 yogibear
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Just like Bernanke and the Fed is stuck buying ever increasing debt, the ECB is stuck buying Greek and spanish debt, otherwise it tanks and takes Europe down the rat hole.

Be comfortable because the central banks are stuck in a rut.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:36 | 3131249 Getting Old Sucks
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LOVE IT!  Go Greece!  Milk that cow!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:39 | 3131259 yogibear
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These Central banks MUST save face and do bailouts indefinitely!

Sit back and watch the monetizing for years!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:40 | 3131261 yogibear
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Greece and Spain you have your sugar daddy. Take them to cleaners. Suck the tits dry.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:38 | 3131255 Rustysilver
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Is this what's call the Greek drama?  So, who's smarter, Greeks or Germans.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 08:23 | 3132314 From Germany Wi...
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Germans. The Greek reputation will be shot for decades to come and it will hurt their economy. After the collapse of the currency Germany, otoh, will still have the reputation of delivering excellent goods.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:43 | 3131265 Surrealist
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Apparently the Euro crisis is over and a thing of the past....

 

Euro crisis is over, Commission chief says

 

http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/euro-crisis-is-over-commis...

 

Time to raise my credit card limit to infinity!!!!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:47 | 3131272 yogibear
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Yes, debt to infinity! See deficits don't matter as long as every denies and plays the money make-believe game.

Just keep extending and pretending.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:50 | 3131281 IridiumRebel
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I raised mine! I got one of those American Express Black Swan cards. No limits and comes with an inkjet printer!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:53 | 3131294 Surrealist
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Inkjet too slow. Lazer printing for faster credit printing!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:57 | 3131307 IridiumRebel
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If only I had one of those Platinum coins like the treasury!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:17 | 3131369 Osmium
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I'd be willing to bet if they mint the platinum coin Corizine will steal it.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:21 | 3131382 smiler03
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I have a 3D printer. it can make bullshit.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:54 | 3131450 IridiumRebel
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They make that thing and it becomes the "answer" then I will be taking the Fam on our bugout. The collapse will be merely days away if not hours.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 09:46 | 3132490 Ayn NY
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My intel processor is much more efficient than your laser printer and that's how the cool kids are "printing" their money these days anyway, old fart...

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:44 | 3131270 IridiumRebel
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Bailout Number FOAR!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:20 | 3131502 ZeroAvatar
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Foar Moar Years!

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:47 | 3131273 Dr. Engali
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The Greeks can just keep doing this and the world will comply. After all the Eurocrats can't admit they were wrong. There are egos involved and they have to show the world they were right... no matter how much debt based money they have to throw at it.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 08:24 | 3132318 From Germany Wi...
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Not just egos. The credibility of the entire German establishment is at stake.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:48 | 3131277 Racer
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That's the problem about a black hole, the nearer you go the faster you go into it

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:52 | 3131287 q99x2
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I heard German banks were susposed to start lending to the US also but I haven't found where to apply yet.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:55 | 3131298 yogibear
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Make it one big laughable money sham. Wait a minute, we already have that.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:56 | 3131303 FedMonger
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Greece has been rallying for some time now could be dead cat bounce, but when you have been down 80% its tough to bearish. the main benchmark ase index has double since from the lows of 2012

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 20:57 | 3131305 Bansters-in-my-...
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Shirlely this must be bullish.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:24 | 3131511 ZeroAvatar
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EVERYTHING'S Bullish!   And stop calling me Shirlely.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:01 | 3131318 silverserfer
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written off debt by CB's retains their power to print. this can go on for an oohlong time. it just goes on the books and then they get lost. as long as they have control of the printer and the gold acumulating orginization it doesnt matter if the gig is up or it goes on.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:25 | 3131393 yogibear
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Don't be surprised to see the US debt at $32 trillion in a few years. Until then it's teh Federal Reserve buying debt with imaginary money.

CHina, Middle East and the rest a pool of suckers! aking worthless fiat for assets.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:03 | 3131323 Smuckers
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A squeaking Greece gets the weal....again.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:10 | 3131352 orangegeek
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Time to get on your moped and get out of Greece.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:19 | 3131377 smiler03
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Or get rich in a recession?

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:30 | 3131400 smiler03
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Meanwhile the EU Presidency, Ireland, wants to offload approximately €31 billion of debt straight onto the EU. 

Der Spiegel (English link)

"The €68 billion ($90 billion) in bailout funds are only expected to meet the country's financial needs until the end of 2013. But Ireland has a trick up its sleeve that it hopes will allow it to avoid a second official aid package: Kenny would like to transfer one-quarter of Ireland's public debt -- the amount that was amassed solely from bailing out the country's banks -- to the EU."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/ireland-seeks-to-have-europe-...

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:00 | 3131463 yogibear
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Ireland and, Portugaul and Italy need to join the EU free money give-away fest. Bailouts for everyone! Don't let Greece be the only PIIG in the trough. Join in others!

Squeal PIIGS and the banksters shower you with bailouts.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:51 | 3131440 PatientZero
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Greeks: you know what you must do. Support Golden Dawn! They are the ONLY party that stands in the way of the banking cartels.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:30 | 3131518 ZeroAvatar
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Greeks may as well support the Golden Dawn.  They already support the Golden Fleece.

 

They're fixing to kill the Goose that Lays the Golden Eggs, though.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 01:12 | 3131893 joego1
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I have goose that shits platinum coins I can lend them.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 21:55 | 3131454 AgAu_man
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The Greeks need Ulysses more than ever to 'Trojan' the banksters.

Are they sheep or men?

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:09 | 3131482 Joebloinvestor
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Greece, the lamprey eel of the EU.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:29 | 3131524 Herdee
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Sounds like I hear the same thing in the U.S. from tea party republicans, "those Chicago guys 'ill do anything!"

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:41 | 3131546 toomanyfakecons...
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Gun prices are skyrocketing in the U.S.

 

I need some of that bailout money.

Mon, 01/07/2013 - 22:51 | 3131561 Seasmoke
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i think its time for a new video from Mr. Panos.......I love that fucking guy

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 02:50 | 3132070 SmittyinLA
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 Greece to EU: PÅŸ ÜP or we cut and boot foreigners and the EU o so loves it's massive state subsizized foreign labor pool, they'll do anything to maintain the tax parasite body count status quo, even buy Greek debt.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 02:58 | 3132087 SmittyinLA
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my wife used to work for  E&Y, totally craven scum.

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 07:30 | 3132251 jubber
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French Banks rallying like crazy....

Tue, 01/08/2013 - 09:40 | 3132478 HpDeskjet
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Slightly off-topic, but still related to greece =>

http://www.ekathimerin.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_07/01/2013_477142

In short: Greek current leading coalition is decreaded by 2 members again and likely wont survive 2013

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