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Guest Post: Fixing The Problem Isn't Difficult
Via Monty Pelerin's World blog,
The following was received via email. Supposedly it appeared in the Waco Tribune. We don’t know the author, but we assume those interested could look her up. Since the Constitution no longer matters, we assume we can make her President, even though she doesn’t meet the (formerly valid) age restriction.
This was written by a 21 yr old female who gets it. It’s her future she’s worried about and this is how she feels about the social welfare big government state that she’s being forced to live in! These solutions are just common sense in her opinion. This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco , TX , Nov 18, 2011
Put Me In Charge...
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’d get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
If we are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
AND While you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.
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Freedom is manipulated as part of our id, our self, our introspective component. We are, by our very nature, of free will, but the notion of freedom is a construct of our humanity. So that is what I mean by manipulation if you think you are free or if you think you are not free. We are manipulated (controlled) by our very existence in determining our perception (real or imagined) of freedom.
As for fighting to save your self respect and anothers, I mean that in order to achieve a real or imagined freedom we have to gain the notion of self-respect internally, and cause (by a variety of means) others to gain in their understanding of self-respect. Your self-respect is a function of their self-respect. Freedom, as mentioned above, is a manipulated construct but men who recognize the true nature of their freedom may recognize that their freedom is tied to that of others' construct of freedom (either similar or dissimilar). Everyone is in it together, and the manipulation of higher levels of freedom constructs (call it "more free") depends on self respect for that freedom as well as the self respect of others for their freedom.
Not terribly concrete, but it is what I believe.
There's only one problem with the proposed "solutions" that all involve putting reasonable restrictions on the poor while meeting their basic needs -- none of these programs exist to help the poor. They exist to keep the masses of underemployed/unemployed content enough to allow the status quo to exist. Take away their big screens, and they may actually wake up and say WTF?
Sooooooooooooooo lets "Git er Done"
Time's a wasten
I do believe that was part of her point. That is she is tired of the status quo welfare state.
But only for poor people, not Banksters.
Yes. It is too bad that the much larger "Corporate" welfare wasn't mentioned.
She did not say that. She probably is just naive because she watches TV and Hollywoods propaganda & lies. I bet you support TV and Hollywood too. Stupid serf.
Actually the she is a he and he is retired army and works for the state.
LOL!
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indeed, these programs aren't "for the people" everyone loves to hate, they are for funneling pixelated fiat to corporate GMO food provider feedlot stores, and allowing the TBTF banking to skim more off of the system with every "allocation" via plastic card.
when will folks wake up to the fact that humans are viewed as cogs in the vast machinery created to suck wealth UP whilst maintaining the in-fighting and lowbrow thinking, whilst the OTHER hand is down your pants?
sedated. it's not just for pharma.
Strange, no anger directed at Wall Street.......
Most people do not see Wall Street as a contributor to the problem because they are told by the MSM that Wall Street is the economy. That Wall Street provides jobs and good for those with jobs to buy.
Working people do however see the welfare queens walk out of grocery stores with more stuff than they could ever hope to buy on a working salary. They see welfare queens and Baby Daddies drive brand new Chevy cars with thousands of dollars worth of accessories. Wondering how they could get a brand new car when the working person was denied a loan at the same dealership.
Centralized control and centralized gifting is the problem. Wall Street doesn't exist to give you a job, only to take your wealth and gift it to someone lucky enough to be in the executive class by birth. Government and the market have colluded themselves into a single entity.
What could wall street do to anyone, if we refused to buy stock and bonds, choosing instead to invest in ourselves and our own businesses. While I will be the first to admitt these guys are villians, they are totally enabled by many on this site who continue to invest with this shit. Corruption works because everyone connected to it is complicit, from top to bottom. Many of us have seen our fortunes, as small as some might be, damaged by wall street and bankers, but the primary losers have been the passive participants, who see themselves as the least complicit, while in total their dollars have the greatest effect. Either get out or shut up!
She sounds like a promising young pundit for AEI or AFP, considering that the government spent about $59 billion to pay for traditional social welfare programs like food stamps and housing assistance in 2006, while Uncle Sam doled out $92 billion dollars in assistance to corporations during the same year.
The difference is that those people are part of us. When they don't produce they become a drag. That drag combined with symbolism causes even more to abandon productive lives. The government can print to infinity and hand it to the bankers and chronies, but when people stop productive activities, the world stops. Its not about the money but what it represents. Money, afterall, is just paper, especially now. As productivity falls, what slack that can't be taken up by technology will demand ever more fiat be printed. If it were a matter of cost it would have been dealt with years ago as it, like so many other issues like defense, would have been forced to remain within our means. As it is, printing allows productivity to continue its decline and by the time society figures it out, it will be too late. Physically, mentally and socially, no one will be able to produce.
LOL four words.
TOO BIG to FAIL!
mwhahahahaha but yes lets bash the person getting a couple hundred a month that's the problem after 40 years of productivity gains going to the top 20% quintile.
My synopsis based on how brainwashed Americans are is that standard of living will continue to go down in the USA.
Yes lets make them haul sacks of flour and powdered milk. Hahahaha like that's going to materialize jobs. The good thing is the writer of this piece and others in agreement could soon be left hauling flour and powdered milk as one remaining employer in America fast food would implode.
But heck im up for it give it a shot, perhaps a new high tech and silicone valley will spawn up as a result of this brilliance. I like the forced sterilization idea too very BIG BROTHER (think NAZI's or totalitarian commies)
We need to get rid of ALL welfare abuse.Corporate and individual.
Stop falling for the Divide and Conquer routine.Its older
than the Roman Empire .
Stop bitching about fault. its all wrong.
yes, it's all wrong - but when apportioning the blame who gets more fault for causation? The individual welfare recipients at 59 billion per year or the Federal Reserve and its crony corrupt bankster system at 16 trillion per GAO Audit? Keep in mind that social welfare is a pressure valve of sorts - Do you want the individual welfare recipients coming to your home to loot it when they are hungry? There really is NO NEED AT ALL for corporate welfare.
Giving in to blackmail or paying tribute in order to avoid backlash, whether it is in the form of the unwashed taking to the streets or via banks turning the screws harder, is the same thing. And neither is acceptable, no matter the scale.
I said abuse.
Took on an eighteen year old a month ago.Didn't even have a SS card yet.
Dropped him off at the SS office to apply.
I don't drive the type of vehicles parked in the overflowing car park.
I could if I wanted to,out of earned money,but won't waste my income.
Just as pissed with the corporate welfare.
Not interested in being robbed at gun point,to keep anyone in a style thats fucking ridiculous
considering the country's finances.Had enough of that in the UK ,sold up and left.
Which is exactly what I'm in process of doing again.
I'm not falling for anything. In fact I'm fortunate enought to be in the top 20%
But seriously people need to get more educated on the economy (Google dying of money and make it a bedtime favorite read it unitl you can remember the lot) and hauling sacks of flour and powdered milk, banning xbox is not going to solve our current ailments.
Possible solution? (sorry just the tip of the iceberg and may require thinking)
P105
Economic life runs in two parallel channels, and the important difference between taxes is their relative drain from these two parallel channels. The two channels may be called saving and consumption, or they may be called capital and labor for the classes of people who are most closely identified with saving and consumption, respectively. Most people's lives participate at least a little in both channels. Most people work and all people consume, and therefore they are a part of the labor and consumption channel. On the other hand, most people also save something and hold some sort of capital, even if only by participating in some employer's pension plan, and therefore they are also a part of the capital and saving channel. The opposition between the two channels is therefore not a class conflict of one group of people against a separate group of people, but a counterpoise of two separate streams in all people's lives.
P106
The mature stage of economic development which the United States later reached was exactly the opposite in almost every respect. The task of economic management was theoretically much easier, because the total flows in the two channels had become abundant, but paradoxically the government experienced much greater difficulty attempting to master this much easier task. In the mature stage, the capital installation is largely completed, total output is large, and workers are much less needed either for current output or for the formation of new capital. As Keynes correctly pointed out, there is a chronic tendency in an advanced economy to excessive saving and insufficient consuming. The larger total incomes are, the more inclined people are to save larger parts of those incomes, but the less need there is for the formation of still more capital that could absorb these large new savings. The Keynesian solution to this was to stimulate new investment artificially, but there is a clear practical limit to how much artificial new investment can be stimulated, and the problem soon outruns the solution. What is needed most is that the abundant production of the existing capital system be consumed, and that the people through labor or other-wise be able to obtain the means of consuming it. What is needed is that the flows in the two channels be balanced by constantly drawing some of the flow from oversaving and" diverting it back into consumption. In the extreme case of maturity where all possible needs of all people were supplied by capital, no workers were needed, no further capital investment was possible, and all saving was excessive, the holders of capital would hold all the means of producing but the rest of the people would have no means of buying, and capitalists and other people alike would be destitute unless enough of the fruits of capital were diverted to consumption to allow people other than capitalists to buy the product of capital. It is not a matter of moral rectitude that capital should partly support consumption in this way, any more than it was morally right that exploited workers should support the formation of capital in an earlier century. It is not a matter of justice, but merely of necessity.
P107
The need in various times might be for flexible taxes, but the need in the United States at the peak of its inflation was for capital taxes. Since the necessity in a mature economy was to draw continuously from capital and distribute continuously to consumption, taxes on capital must be heavier than on income or consumption, and over the course of time they probably must grow still more disproportionately heavy
P108
Taxes are never fun. No one would rather be taxed than not be taxed. The idea of capital taxes strikes fear and rage into the heart of capitalist America, although in fact capitalist America throve quite nicely under an existing load of capital taxes which were adequately heavy when the inflation tax was figured into account. Disproportionately heavy capital taxes are not anti-capitalist, but the reverse. Only by means of capital taxes can a capitalist economy be made to work at all in an advanced state of development. A well-balanced economic management is as much better for capitalists as it is for workers and consumers. If capitalists who increasingly monopolize productive power do not allow enough buying power to be diverted from themselves to their consumers, there will be no profits for capitalists either. The correct level of capital taxes is high and growing higher, but not confisca-tory. The correct level of capital taxes is that which achieves the maximum flow in the channels of both capital and consumption. Higher capital taxes than that are bad, and everyone, capitalists and workers and consumers alike, will be worse off. Lower capital taxes than that are also bad, with the same result. Capital taxes of the proper high level are as beneficial to capitalists as to any other member of society.
High taxes on capital do not destroy capital, as is sometimes charged, nor do they inhibit the formation of new capital, either of which effects would be bad. When a man pays a property tax on his house (a capital tax), he does not saw off a piece of his house and give it to the tax collector, thereby destroying that much of his capital. Not at all. He takes some of his income from some other source, measured not by the income but by the value of the house, and pays that to the tax collector. The house is intact. All taxes, including capital taxes, are income taxes in the sense that the means of paying them must come from income. A capital tax is a tax paid out of income but measured by the voluntary exercise of the privilege of holding property. Until the tax becomes so high that the privilege is no longer attractive, capital taxes neither destroy capital nor dampen the formation and acquisition of new capital. The privilege of holding property is a deep and powerful motivating force. It is this unique privilege that caused capitalistic systems to succeed, and capitalistic systems can continue to reap ample harvests from this fertile source. People do not cease to own houses because the property taxes on them are high, nor to hold investments because they are taxed heavily. No one should fear to tax the privilege lest people might be driven to foresake it, and on the other hand if the privilege is not taxed it will wither.
If there is one precept which even the archest conservative must receive from Lord Keynes, it is that an economy as complex and interdependent and as completed as mature America must be managed by the government. Laissez faire in the strictest sense no longer would do. Conservatives who did not accept this would find they were conserving a desert. Not only must the economy be managed, which is a declaration tinged with desperation, but it can be managed, which is a declaration steeped in hope. Past failures by the kinds of economists who most strongly advocated government intervention were no evidence that management could not succeed. Government management could continuously redress chronic economic imbalances, like that between capital and consumption, to the end that the economy produce the most for everyone. Government management cannot create wealth, but it can set free the efforts of willing people to create wealth. In all of this, the first and strongest set of tools the government can have is a comprehending use of its taxes.
P117
consume is as great as ever, the more the government must draw taxes from capital and distribute freely to the people for consumption. The truly conservative view would not be to deny or deplore the necessity, both of which are futile, but to take care to see that the method of redistribution is well designed to increase and not diminish the efficient operation of the system.
It is shocking to observe that payments under every one of the principal social programs — welfare, unemployment, and Social Security — were made on the one condition that the recipient refrain from working. Spurious employment inj government industry also precluded workers' doing some other useful work, and artificially high wage costs also directly prevented people from working.
The existing distribution sys-tern did its best to make everyone idle as the intentional price of receiving its dole, and this was incredibly evil. It is incomprehensible how any nation could expect to grow and thrive by using all the surplus fruits of its efforts to induce people not to create any more.
A national dividend as a general distribution system, coupled with an array of taxes including capital taxes, provides the government with a complete set of valves to balance the flows between saving and consumption. If consumption is too high and saving too low, both the national dividend and capital taxes may be reduced. If saving is too high and consumption too low, as they were in the Depression, both capital taxes and the national dividend may be increased. If the people choose to work hard, the flows may increase; if they shirk, the flows must diminish. It is up to the people. The people control the total flows; the government just balances them. Even if capital grows so dominant as to eliminate all need for employmerit, the government can valve off from the fruits of capital, and distribute by the national dividend, enough consumption power to keep the system working smoothly. No other arrangement can do that.
The ways in which the national dividend could strike off the shackles from the American system are virtually limitless. People would be set free to do useful work again without forfeiting some government giveaway by doing so. Employment could once again be allowed to enjoy the fertility of a free market. Wages paid for work done could be allowed to find the natural value of the work, rather than some inflated level, without depriving any worker of his full share of the prosperity for which the national dividend would be partly responsible. (meaning you could do low paid work eg Garbo, cab driver, carer etc and still get the dividend.
P130
Dogma is the mummified form of theory. Dogma consists of tenets of mind that have ceased to grow and adapt. Dogma is living belief become petrified, working theory become embalmed in stone.
Liberals would adore, and conservatives abhor, the massive new capital taxes, inheritance taxes, net worth taxes, and capital gains taxes, and the massive new distribution system through a national dividend. Conservatives on the other hand would celebrate, and liberals denigrate, the abolition of upper income tax rates, lower income tax rates, income tax exemptions, double corporate taxes, welfare, unemployment compensation, Social Security, government subsidies, artificial employment, and legal supports for unions' restraints of trade. Virtually every member of both camps would embrace about half these measures. Hardly anyone would embrace them all, though the fact is that none should be adopted unless all were. In the eternal stalemate between the two camps, it is better that nothing be done than that either camp prevail.
Yes, freedom of choice is far too dangerous to be left unregulated. Someone could get hurt!
Really.
Another one that knows whats best for everyone except himself.
If he believes that BS he just posted,he either already works for the FedRes or
is planning to.That crap only works in centally planned economy's.
Sure sure everything you have achieved you could have done on Gilligans Island with you and a handful of your Facebook and twitter friends oh wait I mean followers. Heck Jesus had twelve, you probably have many more.
I will clue you in your mind is a Tabula Rasa filled by your masters. As my op said you may have to think and challenge your dogma.
Mandatory drug testing, forced sterilization, and unpaid labor which puts the people paid for those jobs out of work.
States SHOULD start implementing these programs, so long as they can pay for them without any help from FEDGOV, but I personally doubt things would improve much. Whatever you may save in stopping abuse and fraud would be more than outweighed by the expense of maintaining the apparatus to enforce the rules.
Perhaps it IS better to pay big bucks to the militarization of law-enforcement and policing medical care than it would be to just pay for the services, but let's not pretend it would save money.
aye, the "forced sterilization" is the tell for me - no vasectomies, when a dude can impregnate any number of women a week, and walk away with no consequences, whilst a woman, even intent on breeding, can only produce one pregnancy a year. . .
math. hard. hate. easy.
Who shall ever receive the dole shall also receive the knife. Because there still are differences between the sexes, despite liberal utopians, some inequities will remain. Kind of like its the women's right to choose and its the man's right to pay, regardless of if he wants the child or not. If you think they can ever create a law that is fair to everyone all the time you are nuts! The only fair law is no law.
okey dokey,
let's define "dole" - and who exactly gets it, here in amrkaLand, and then let the choppin' begin!
no liberal utopias needed, full on barbarism, on display for the world, I'm sure there will be much cheering when they realise amrka has limited the future generations of military occupiers, and fiat printers, and Wall Street cheats.
as to a whether a man wants a child or not - surely if it's "not" then a knot could be implemented? problem solved??
I think she is missing the point of free stuff for votes.
Don't know why anyone in Texas would care, last I heard they were attempting to Suceed from the USA with 31 other states.
Or is that all called off?
Really? Maybe I'm missing something here, because she essentially said that she didn't believe that anyone that was on welfare should be able to vote because then they would just vote for the continuation of free stuff welfare, which is something she seems to be tired of. But hey like I said, maybe I'm the one missing something here!
well, if that's the logic being used, then Wall Street, banking class, MIC peeps, etc. - no vote for YOU!!
no vote for any gov-monies beneficiary, amirite?
Police in northeast India say they believe workers on a tea plantation who bludgeoned their boss and his wife to death last month also ate parts of their bodies.
A crowd of 1000 workers at the privately-owned M.K.B. Tea Estate in the state of Assam surrounded the plantation owner’s bungalow last week. A mob then set it on fire in violence blamed on festering labour unrest in the region.
“Our investigations say that at least five plantation workers ate the flesh of the tea planter and his wife after they were brutally killed,” Numol Mahatao, deputy police chief of Tinsukia district, told journalists.
“We suspect that about 15 people were actually involved in the crime although there were some 1000 present there at the spot,” the police official said. “We have identified all the masterminds and nine are in our custody so far.”
Mr Mahatao said the reports of cannibalism were based on a confession from one of the workers present during the attack.
Tea workers are notoriously badly paid and often housed in poor accommodation in remote areas. They have few protections from police and cannot take advantage of laws designed to guarantee them health care and fair working conditions, rights groups say.
The Indian Express newspaper said the violence was sparked by orders from the boss for 10 estate workers to vacate their quarters and by the detention of three employees by police over unspecified disputes.
“We are investigating the reasons that led to the attack. But whatever may be the reason, such acts of barbarism are unacceptable in this modern world,” Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi said.
Assam produces around 55 per cent of India’s annual tea production, which stood at 988.32 million kilograms last year, and the state is home to more than 800 tea estates.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/cannabalism-suspected-in-indi...
its good to see they practice "eat what you kill"
I wonder how their "benefits" package is looking now?
"If we are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices."
Yes, I agree! One question though: Does this apply to the Too Big To Fail banks and their QE, TARP, Twist, TAG, 16 trillion per GAO Audit?
Bingo. Isn't fascism great? You get to have welfare at both ends of the spectrum.
Yes.
Where do I vote for her?
Berlin, I think!
At any voting booth in America.
It'll be the same guy calling you a socialist for thinking John Thain should be maintaining barracks on a ration of rice.
With incumbent re-election rates at something like 90+%, the problem might not be with them but us.
With incumbent re-election rates at something like 90+%, the problem might not be with them but us.
Incumbent re-election rates are so high IMO it's because most people are Single issue voters,and as long as their person votes the way they want, they are happy.Step off that line, and BAM, lost voters.
Example if the GOP caves on the Unfathomable new weapons laws,along with a handful of Dems, they will be replaced next cycle guaranteed.
Same w/Dems, if they cave on abortion, bam!,gone.
This is a nice list. I propose we expand it:
Include corporations that receive subsidies or bailouts. No new contracts, no lobbying or contributing until they get off the dole or pay it back.
Its a a start....and it would be the end for many people...they could never handle it...unfortunatly it will never happen...in fact they are EXPANDING welfare as we speak....this country is done...the takers have more votes than the producers have now....
Yes, I believe the takers like Bank of America, GS, Citi, JPM, AIG, ad nauseum (the biggest corporate welfare queens in this country) have ALWAYS had more votes.
Her proposals are nothing more than the middle class talking to the lower class. The lower class is aligned with the 1%. As George Carlin said the rich use the poor to scare the middle class.
The poor also provide a lot of soldiers.
What mythical beast is this you speak of...the middle class?
I don't understand this term anymore because it's meaning is incredibly vague.
Everyone productive enough to be worth robbing, but not connected enough to get the power structure to rig the game in their favor.
Oh...the sheep that make slightly more in relation to the poor which is nothing in scale to the actual wealth?
When Obama says middle class, he means anyone working for the government.
Don't get me wrong. I agree with her. But the 1% do not, so fugetaboutit.
The author is a moron. With money printing, followed by inflation she may soon be getting a copy of her own rules in exchange for a welfare handout to supplement her income.
What pisses me off is that people don't realize the current fiat currency system is a slave system. If I can print money at will and get a whole nation to work in exchange, I'm one of the biggest slave masters in the history of mankind.
Her attention has been diverted from the source of the problem and helped the elite run good 'ol divide and conquer.
Her rant is ignorant and people appluading her...
Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
What part of this do you not understand??????????? We have the sheeple awaiting their gov't handout while we borrow money each and every month to pay for these and other programs....This is a good start to get the people/sheeple to wake the f*&k up....That is part 1
Part 2 is changing the pols in Wash DC and elsewhere
Part 3 is putting some CEO's and Wall Street types in jail or hanging from lamp posts....
But until you wake the masses up step 2 & 3 won't happen
The problem I have with this is she mentions government seizure of private assets. While I believe it makes sense that if you need government assistance, you should sell your assets first (whether they're 21" rims or 'art' that a ginormous bank has bought over the years), let us not foolishly believe that we can have one rule for the rich and one for the poor. We must return to equitable application of law to all layers and entities in society. Equality under the law seems to be fairly non-existent these days.
I don't believe the government should get into the business of seizing assets on conditions. I do think most of those are doable; however, its a fine line between totalitarian socialism and fixing the problem. Let's not forget it.
In fact, I don't think the government should be involved at all. People should have to rely on other's generosity. We used to call this charity. Not forced/compulsed seizure of money e.g. property indirectly via taxation or directly via government seizure.
For 100 years we've suffered a capitation-style tax by a beast that has squandered our money. This was considered immoral by the Founding Fathers. Compulsion inherently is immoral as it directly attacks individual sovereignty, which is the basis for all governmental authority as we all trade some of our individual sovereignty for certain benefits to authority.
This is the last gasp of the 20th Century Marxists. The time is coming when we as a nation will collectively re-assert our individual sovereignty and throw off the shackles of oppression that has plagued us since the early 20th Century. Let's just hope its done through peaceful means by moral and intellectual men and women in government.
I was right with you until the last sentence. That would be an oxymoron.
Yep. I chose my words carefully. If you spent billions on a datacenter in the desert, don't you think you'd want a good ROI?
You would leave the poor to starve... you monster! Or so they say.
Yes it would be best to have no government welfare of any kind. Though if it is not to be dismantled (at least momentarily) it could still be done like that with minimum social corruption. After all even if one would agree with left that it is moral to always, without reservations and exceptions provide for needy - this is not what welfare does. If it was basic care it would look more like that woman posted. Right now it's just a money transfer to the people who's votes are cheapest to buy (but frequently nowhere near a state of real need - with life or health in danger).
whatta pipe dream
The author never said he is fixing "everything", just a list of items that bother him. Are you saying the abuse of entitlement systems is not a problem? Are you saying we should allow people that benefit directly from those entitlements vote to support candidates that will ensure they receive them?
Most people here are fully aware of the slave system that proceeds from central banking systems and the current fascist regimes (start with FDR). You are preaching to the choir. However, it is not the only problem.
The rant is just that. Of course, it does open the coversation to voluntaryism and decentralization of State and corporate power, as well as the destruction of the Military- industrial complex. Instead of focusing on division, use it as a springboard to unite others with various platforms.
Honey, The issues are a little more complicated than that.
If people had meaningful work most people would be happy to earn their livings. Granted there are some abusers out there, but on the whole people have self respect.
In the case of people who are chronically unemployed, it doesn't help to be black.
I"m white and unemployed and don't get welfare, I don't qualify. I wonder why that is?
This stump jumpin yahoo probably has a minimum wage job down at the convience store at minimum wage and had John McCain signs in her yard because she, like my ignorant brother can't get any other station then some AM spew channel at runs Gush, the drug addicted Limberger or any of those other elite slugs that are,'t qualified to work at McDonalds. How sad that some of you want to elect her.
Didn't you people have a chance to elect a few of these types of idiots in the elections not long ago?
Thank God that some reason prevailed!
Most people have worked in pretty bad poverty for the 99% of our species history. Their job satisfaction comes as much as anything else from a sense of fairness. When they see others having a better life doing nothing productive, whether it be bankersand politicians living entirely from the labor of others, or welfare bums, why would they want to work. Especially when the left constantly re-affirms the non-laborers entitlement to other peoples labor. Their used to be a little guilt in taking handouts, even your unemployment check. Now, you can be indignant about your circumstances, feel justified because obviously all republicans and Limbaugh's fault, but dear, it is a lot more complicated than that! Maybe think about how you just love those cheap flatscreens and Iphones made by chinese children at $5 a day or such, while working in your typical GM union wage job while using no more skill or aptitude than the chiness children. Put on top of that a government and its lacky bankers who will happily print and loan you unlimited moneys to continue the dream. BUt other than that, it is all Limbaugh's fault.
I think we should commission a multi million $ study of this...or perhaps set up a cabinet level dept.
I agree with that symbol!
In conclusion:
Not in Mama's house!!
I almost fell in love with this 21 year old female, until I spent 10 seconds on Bing and found it was actually a man named Alfred Evans. Oh, and he didn't write that last paragraph either (though I agree with it). It was also 2010, not 2011.
http://www.wacotrib.com/opinion/LETTERS-Fixing-Social-Security-Put-me-in-charge-of-welfare-Medicare-and-housing-grants.html
lol - what's wrong with just a little bit of lipstick on a pig?
we got undressed
it was a big 'ol mess
Sheena was a man!
>Bing
I'm surprised you didn't find out she was actually a turnip from Rhodesia who also wrote War and Peace and is the majority stakeholder in "Fat Asses" magazine.
He is a retired US Army sergeant and works for the Texas Department of Transportation.
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/140458333.html
If you take from the govt yourself you shouldn't complain about other people taking the tax payer's money.
Works for the department of transportation... Retired Army. Oh the irony (for most, not for me).
So you mean it's the same as all 21yo women on the net? They turn out to be fat men in their mother's basement?
My mom lives in an apartment.
what? it's not original thinking? it's not a hot young woman saying what all the old dudes like to hear most? it's an old white dude on gov-bennies, and gov wages? paid for with YOUR taxes???
oh hahhahahhhahahahhahahhahaaahah. . .
Actually I have little doubt she will see all these recommendations implemented in many states sometime in the next 20 years, but not in less than 5 years.
That's just how it is going to be.
In having lots of long, painful talks with 'progressive' friends - I've come up with a name for it {which may be reinventing someone's wheel} - proxy moralism.
That is to say, one is "moral" as an agent, not because one volunteers or gives to charity, in fact that's irrelevant. No, what matters is espousing a belief in a redistributionist political scheme which addresses symptoms, not disease, and which involves taking the money, on threat of force, from your neighbor.
I am some sort of blend of 'liberal' and libertarian and leavemethefuckalonian... but I find "progressives" incredibly irritating. It's just their fucking smugness... this attitude of I'm morally superior, when they do nothing themselves - because an omnipotent, coercive, extra-Constitutitional corporate-state is their moral proxy.
And add to this hypocrisy, this lounge-chair ethicality, the fact that their moral proxy is the biggest theif and state terrorist in history.
Cunts.
What happens if there are no jobs to get?
Do you really want to live in a country with 20-30 million people who can't vote, can't smoke or drink, can't play video games, watch TV, who have to live on bags of rice and beans (cheese wtf?), and who can't get a job anyway no matter how hard they look because there are no jobs to be had because crooks at the top stole everyone elses money? Hong long do you think they will meekly accept their "just reward" in a society that doesn't even pretend to reward hard work or complicance with the law anymore?
Why shouldn't people forced to live like that rise up in revolt? Because they don't have a job!? And we're back into square one.
You think that if those people actually do revolt that they would revolt against the government?
We are not going to have a country where the welfare class wakes up and somehow "gets it". We will have a second civil war and the welfare class will be exterminated. During the fighting the oligarchs will try to escape to somewhere else, so they can reassert themselves as a governing authority once the fighting stops. It will then be time to cut the heads off anyone with a last name ending with ein.
There is no other way. The future is filled with violent death.
Sure! When I was young we had lots of revolutionaries. tune in, turn on and drop out. Now most of them are in charge and they are the biggest thieves of all!
This is such crap.....
the system is now totally rigged to siphon wealth away from the middle classes....needless to say, this destroys jobs, communities, families......
AND BUSINESSES.
which means there are NO JOBS> but, hey, let's crucify the people who got caught in the meat grinder tearing cash out of the peasants handings and funneling it to the big boys......
let's stereotype 'em so showing any sympathy whatsoever labels you as a pinko pansy.
GROW UP EVERYONE....THIS KIND OF CRAP JUST FEDS THE BEAST THAT'S EATING US ALIVE.....
STOP WITH THIS CRAP MAGICAL THINKING THAT THERE ARE EVEN JOBS LEFT FOR THE FOLKS MARGINALIZED NOW....THERE ARE NO JOBS. THERE ARE GOING TO BE FEWER JOBS GOING FORWARD. THE PEASANTS ARE IN REAL TROUBLE.....
AND GUESS WHAT????????????????????????????/// IT AINT ALL THEIR FAULT....THEY AREN'T ALL IGNORANT SLOBS LOOKING FOR HANDOUTS.....
Yell all you want, but you won't be any more correct than if you whispered. Take African Americans, for just one small slice of the overall problem. Incredible murder rate among youth with no employment prospects, conceived often by parents with no employment prospects.
In 1960 the African American poverty rate was around 50%. Today it is half that. Great, huh? It's even better than that, however, because the African American population has doubled since then, a period when the native US population (that is, excluding immigration since 1960), excluding African Americans, has increased population by about 25%.
What a country! Double population AND cut poverty rate in half! Well, not so fast...
There were roughly 9 Million AA's living in poverty in 1960 and 9 Million above the poverty line. Today there are roughly 9 Million AA's living in poverty and 27 Million above the poverty line. So despite the Great Society programs, there are the same number of African Americans in poverty today as in 1960. Because of the Great Society social safety net, however, the progeny of the poor has been accelerated (by both more children per parent and fewer years between generations), so the population increase among African Americans, excluding immigrants arriving since 1960, is four times that of the rest of the population since 1960.
So now we have more than 5000 black kids and young adults killing each other over gangland turf wars each year (down from 10,000 in the early ninetes), even though prosperity has exploded for them in the last 50 years. But the opportunities this nation provided, public and private, could not keep up with the accelerated birth rate funded by Great Society programs. If the 1960 AA population had grown the same as everybody else's (25%) then, even by including a couple million immigrants of African origin or decendancy, there would be no more than 25 Million African Americans in the US. Instead, there are about 39 Million, and 27 Million live above the poverty line.
That is, the poverty rate among African Americans, if their population had grown more modestly, would be essentially zero today.
You can't rant about the deficiency of jobs without first coming to terms with the unnatural increase in the number of poor begetting poor as a result of the nanny state. All across the western world, people living a middle-class lifestyle or better are not replacing themselves. That means a nation with middle class or better inhabitants will naturally shrink in population, reducing the stress on the labor market. It also follows that as technology increases productivity and menial jobs are sent overseas, the necessary workforce is reduced. Those two trends work together. Immigration then becomes the relief valve to maintain the needed workforce that the shrinking native population can't provide, and to reduce workers if wages go too low.
Statists don't see population reduction along with workforce reduction as being in their interest. They need expanding population, in their minds, to maintain the fantasy that future safety net promises can be met through an infinitely-expanding economy fuled by the needs of an endlessly-expanding population. There's no calculation on their part that the expanding population are for the most part going to need the safety net themselves, not be net contributors.
The $85 Billion in printing you reference is to enable the federal government to service current debt and to borrow more on top. Just read the news - that's now $85 Billion in DIRECT TREASURY PURCHASES that was supposed to be troubled assets. Have you not read ZH in the past 5... hours?
The protection afforded the financial industry you whine about is payback for government's dependency on cheap and plentiful credit. That dependency on the federal government's part comes from expansion of the social safety net beyond what it can afford - which apparently you approve of? Without that safety net, or at least if it didn't require borrowing to maintain it, the banks would not have the political leverage we've given them.
62% of federal spending is transfer payment from a taxpayer (past or future) to a Jane Doe or John Smith. Cut that number in half and the need to borrow a trillion dollars is nullified.
The dollar has lost 3/4 of its value since 1971 when Nixon closed the gold window. That's about 4% annual inflation since. He did so to be able to pay all debts with easily-printed dollars instead of finite gold reserves. Successive federal deficits have contributed significantly to inflation ever since. Higher inflation makes social safety nets even more costly, whuch requires borrowing/printing even more dollars, and so on.
Summary of the 21-year-old's rant: There's no free lunch. Someone else always gets the check.
You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t check. If you want to vote, then get a real job."
fixed...
You know I kind of like this "voluntarily remove yourself from voting when you are receiving a government check" idea. Just think...no more bribing (oops, I mean lobbying/voting) by the big banks. It has definite possibilities...
This chick sounds pretty hot. I wonder if she's married yet? Even more amazingly, a 21 yr old who gets it.....
Prolly more like in the old days when they had a lot of "phone sex" collect calls where the feminine voice on the other end of the line actually belonged to a "Jabba the Hut" person.
I agree put them in an Barracks. Give them a roof over their head, heat and meals in a chow line 3 times a day.
Stop giving them incentives to have more Children. After one "mistake" do not pay for any more.
No checks just Government housing in old Military compounds. Food served the same as our Men in uniform, in chow lines. Community rooms for games and Tv. Plus, make them work for it. Keep it clean, prepare meals, do laundry, give child care for those who work.
would it be privatized and run by Haliburton?
More likely Corrections Corp.?
that's gonna hurt the landlords paying off their housing investments with Section 8 bonuses. . .
Yep, you know how to hurt a poster that tried to rent to Section 8.
But, right now I have an older gentleman that walks to work as a cook for a Nursing Home. The rent is low ($200 below what Section 8 would pay) and he seems to appreciate the lower rent and has recently payed on time. I would rather rent for a lower rent than take Section 8, actually.
He takes care of his apartment. With Section 8 they tear your property up. Carpet always has to be replaced. Kitchen cabnet doors torn off, all of the springs in your windows broken, all of the plumbing leaking or ripped out, Roaches, Mice, Rats, etc. Sometimes takes up to 3 months just to get rid of the Roaches before you can rent it again.
my intent is not to "hurt" anyone, if that's what you're implying with your first sentence.
I was merely pointing out the fact that many landlords are benefit-ing from the Section 8 .gov handouts, whilst fairly foaming at the mouth about EBT/SNAP users, some of whom actually need that assistance because of the massive theft that's taking place by the gov't. even now, and the artificial propping up of house prices to keep the illusion of "wealth" ongoing - which inevitably means people making less money at jobs are still having to pay these fake, inflated rents.
I'm glad you've found a decent tenant for one of your rentals, and I've no doubt that some people getting Section 8 payments can be feral - not all, some - it's good to realise that each human can be judged on their own merits, and not lumped into some *hate* category. . .
Did she write a similar "offer" for banksters who take government money ???
Probably not...
What a brainwashed idiot! This is going to like bring $5 billion. Yes it's something, but hey moron you still got $55 Trillion to go. It's astounding how many idiots can't even diagnose where the problem lies and only parrot bullshit as facts.
Enlighten me oh un-brain-washed being.
Where the problem lies?
Look at the composition of debt. US did NOT run up $55 Trillion in debt by giving out EBT cards.
China does not have any social safety net programs, yet they have much bank debt accumulated in a span of mere a decade.
Gotta start somewhere.....Going after the bankers and the wall street people next.....
On ZH one must always include the words "bankster", "AIG", and "Goldman Sachs" when complaining about anything. Say you wanted to bitch about your hemorroids. You must place the blame squarely on banksters, AIG and Goldman Sachs. Anything else and you will be subjected to an endless diatribe of insults and down arrows. Had the 21 year-old began with "first kill all the banksters" there would not be a red arrow or negative comment in sight, save for the few comments by government employees, parasites, leeches, and leftist trash that comment here from time to time.
This woman is a danger to national security!! I'll be calling the Gestopment of Homeland Security. I'll bet all the reichmarks in the chancellory that she won't have the proper papers!! Her kind rarely do...
I saw something, so I'll say something. Because I'm a true American!!
she's also impersonating a US Officer!! get 'er!!!!
Wow! Real wisdom, a rare commodity!
"If you want to vote, then get a job."
And ruin the support of permanent underclass for the overlords? Ridiculous nonsense. She could not terroriz... I mean be a President of even an African nation with old school dictatorship. Who would want her to head such a sophisticated neo-slavery empire like USA!
This is not just cruel, but also anti-semitic.... If this happened the democrats could never get elected, and then they could NOT carry forth the agenda of the edmonite-ashkenazi-zionists....
Excellent, stuck between the Hitler Youth and the Free Shit Army, what's the Average Joe to do?
Ummmmm.
Sweetheart. I suggest you apply for SEC-TRES. I hear there is an opening. Being 21 years old we can excuse your enthusiastic statements for naivety. You can shape everyones self esteem very surgically with an 80,000 page tax code and a gun.
Dry beans and roadside trash collection... not for the poor, but for the bankster-politicians and other traitors.
I agree with all of her rule changes on the poviso that everyone who wants a job can get a job.
It seems to me that this deterioration and accompanying relance on welfare is a natural outcome of factores and jobs being shifted overseas.
As for bankers et al, limit their salaries and put their bonuses on hold for five years to ensure that any gimmicky accounting, illegalities etc can be punishable by withholding of bonuses.
Guarantee whistleblowers their immunity, safety as well as reward.
No politician to serve more than three terms.
“Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.
Wow, state enforced sterilization; doesn’t sound very Libertarian to me. Authoritarian state anyone?
"Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried."
There goes the Bill of Rights, I guess. Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”
It’s the1930s WPA; it’s socialism! And that part about showing a check stub every week doesn’t sound very voluntary to me.
And it’s gonna take a helluva big bureaucracy to administer all this. Again, not very Libertarian, more like socialism or Facism to me.
But what the heck, it sounds good: criticize the poor; they are all lazy freeloaders. Talk about class warfare. Keep it up; that’s just what TPTB want us to do, turn on each other instead of them.
"Put me in charge of government housing. Your home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried."
There goes the Bill of Rights, I guess. Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
first, let's imagine that the BOR is still in effect (which it ain't)
second, keyword .GOV HOUSING means it is most certainly NOT "theirs" -- The right of the people to be secure in THEIR persons, houses... and .gov doesn't own shit. it commandeers productive people's earnings and redistributes that wealth as they see fit. the only thing .gov surely has is a monopoly on violence(power) -- leading to the ability to commandeer, redistribute, consolidate more power, rinse, repeat.
third and lastly, the original writer made no reference to "seizing" such items- only an "inventory" (presumably to ferret out those who would abuse the kindness of their overlords by making some money "under the table" and buying frills that surely aren't needs, but wants, thereby proving they didn't need overlord's money to begin with.
Logic - it's not just for everyone i guess...
oh, and kill the bankers, parasites, and leeches :o)
If its not your house and you aren't paying for it, then you got nothin. You can't be secure in other people's property, no matter how many times Obama says it.
Love the picture on the home page; I often think that's today's version of "capitalism" is a guy with a sack of money in one hand, and a gun in the other, and holding up the guy with no money or gun.
+1e26
When you have enough money to support generations of your family in perpetuity, like Mitt Romney, your purpose in life becomes making sure others can't.
I do not support Obama, but the best "zinger" in the political theater 2012 election was (para) "Mitt, would you have taken all those tax loopholes if you knew we were going to make somebody else pay for them?"
Job equals serfdom in the current era. Just substitute lord with owner and land with corporation and the feudal comparison is obvious. Her argument is that one must be a serf to a lord (be employed by a corporation) as a precondition to vote. Breathtaking logic with a nightmarish conclusion. Everything seems so black and white in youth. Perhaps she'll express a different opinion once her frontal cortex has fully myelinated. In the meantime perhaps she can read a good book like The Road to Serfdom.
Na, feudal serfs had it better--they only paid 25% in taxes, to the Lord. Most of the "middle class" pays 33% to 50%, nowadays.
In some places times past that which was due the fuedal lord was only 10%.
Keep in mind through you were also on call in the militia.
It would be sweet if all of her suggestions were implemented. Then Walmart and all the other slave wage, use up and discard workers, part time means no benefits employers would have to finally pay up or go out of business. The social safety-net has been used as a way to subsidies low wage, part time employment for several decades now.
The rich bastards have painted themselves into a no win corner and I'm doing the happy dance. Come on, let's see all you real smart fraudsters wiggle off this hook. Ha ha the more you scheme the worse it gets. Those of us who hate you and would see you destroyed don't have to do anything, just give you rich SOBs enough rope to hang yourselves. This is getting real interesting.
PS- The manager and shill pukes who made all this possible for those rich bastards will end up out of work and part of the beans and rice crowd too. Enjoy life in the barracks you suck asses LOL.
And the real reason why US is in the present shape: too many stupid white people who think that they are entitled to live in the suburbs, watch football on 60" LCD TVs, eat grilled hamburgers smothered with Ketchup and drive SUV and F150s.
If they're working and paying for it why the fuck do you care what they do with their own money?
Lot's of government jobs and government budget allocations in keeping the poor down.
And when the poor are kept down, the wealthy have fewer threats.
A 2011 opinion piece from a Waco, TX newspaper is the subject of a Zerohedge piece?
Man, it must be a slow news Monday.
This is a much better story:
Exclusive: U.S. nuclear lab removes Chinese tech over security fears(Reuters) - A leading U.S. nuclear weapons laboratory recently discovered its computer systems contained some Chinese-made network switches and replaced at least two components because of national security concerns, a document shows.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/07/us-huawei-alamos-idUSBRE90608B...
"National security concerns..."
Funny.
We've handed the Chinese everything. They are in our computer networks all the time. We allow their graduate students (many children of PLA Military Oficers) to spy and infiltrate every research university in the land. They have reverse engineered every piece of military and agricultural equipment and innovation we have spent a century investing in and developing.
If the U.S.S.A. gave a shit about national security we would not have sold our souls and everything else to China already.
imagine the hue and cry if one of those nuclear facilities have an. . . accident. . . that can be blamed on "chinese" workmanship.
working, or not, as intended.
Does this go for employees of JPMorgan, Goldman, Bank of America, Lockheed Martin, etc., etc., etc.?
Short form of National Socialist is Nazi, right Barry? Right Ben?
The interwebs say it was published Nov 18, 2010, not 2011, signed by an Alfred W. Evans of Gatesville, most likely not female, or 21.
I was wondering what the red and blue man was for. I've been around since Ike and the red and blue are both the same problem. Prove me wrong.
If I had a relative that was out of work and needed help, I would offer to help that relative out. I would tell them that if they took advantage of me while I was helping them out by having a baby or by doing drugs or spending lavishly, the deal was off. I would also give them a time limit on the help. This is what is known as 'tough love' and I am respected for that. I would also be considered to be doing my relative a favor in teaching them to take care of themselves. Yet if the government makes those same requirements it's suddenly cruel and inhumane? I don't get it.
If the children of your house guest could grow up to vote you out of your home, you would have to take that into consideration.
Politicians are more interested in sowing a crop of voters beholden to them than citizens productive to you.
Nice sentiments, but as long as the government is bailing out banks, insurers, and corporations while allowing them to commit fraud and theft unfettered there is no moral foundation to expect the citizenry to not milk the system.
I have a better solution. My money is a product of my labor; steal it and I'll shoot you in the face.
what's the deal w/ your avatar?
It's Troy Hurtubise's Trojan Combat Suit. I made the GIF myself :D
http://biosocket.com/trojan-combat-suit-animated-gif/
YEEEEEEE-HAW!
Let's get on the shit-kickers and get 'er done! Shut down them orphanages and walk-in clinics and soup lines! Wall Street and Corporate Amairka outsourced all them jobs to them slanty-eyes and them taco-eaters so let's take all them freeloaders what lost they's jobs and nuke 'em.
Time to give Amairka back to us patriots.
I had to log in just to give you a thumbs up.
20 million jobs mutherfuckers.
uh, orphanages and soup lines are almost all privately funded as well as some free clinics. But your point is taken. Of course the gov wants to get rid of private charities because they just can be sure non gov people can do it right.
There is no need for socialist or fascist response. Simply watch the dollar collapse and everything resets just as it should. Government becomes weak and those with PM get to make the rules. If you don't have any PM you may vote with your feet. Keep some semi-precious metals (copper and lead) around to help insure your gold stays yours.
Seems awfully democratic and only rewards those able to read and learn from history.
Like her liberal counterparts, too many people are willing to shred the Bill of Rights to fix problems. The fundamental problem is the horrible decline in our standard of living needed to pay our debts or default and live with the consequences. 99.9999% of us lose which is why there is and can never be consensus.
Print more money & have the FED buy more bonds. That's the ticket!
When we go down the road Greece is traveling it will be messy, indeed.
Forgot who said it but
Our culture has been trained to look down at those poorer than ourselves and scrutinize them more closely for such infractions on the slave work ethic. That way we aren't looking higher up the ladder to see who is defecating/SHITTING on us. It's a nice trick that works well for the owners and their minions.
BAZINGA
Put me in charge. I'd just immediately cancel welfare, medicaid, and all that other shit.
I love this. Accountability and true capitalism. If you want it you are ALLOWED to work for it.
The 21 year old is expressing herself rather harshly, but overall I strongly agree with her sentiments.
But I particularly agree with this comment of hers; it most certainly also applies to me: "this is how she feels about the social welfare big government state that she’s being forced to live in!"
Getting rid of socialism is the best solution to almost every economic/societal problem that arises. Socialism destroys everything in its path. Always has done and always will do.
The days when it reflected the softer side of humanity (if it ever did) are long gone. It has become a political ethos of jealously, envy and hatred, and of course it advocates state power & control over the lives of the citizenry through its unproductive armies of apparatchiks who eventually don jackboots to enforce compliance with its madness. It promotes everything that is wrong (particularly non-self-reliance) and buys votes by creating small armies of beneficiaries of its corrupt and destructive policies.
I know of no country that has prospered under socialism.
That'll do for now :-) Pheeeeww. Glad I got that off my chest ;-)
Oh, yes. If I were a King for a day. Every economist dream (I am not one). Let's start with corporate walfare. I want to pay the same rate that GE or Mitt Romney does. Insert a couple of lines at 11:55 PM in any bill; this way I can say it is legal.
This post is stupider than last night's Michael the banker post (which has strangely been scrubbed).
I'll worry about the welfare frauds and illegals working for less than minimum when this country prosecutes one of the banks which were behind the mortgage frauds, and their sundry other financial crimes.
This is getting people all lathered up over exactly the wrong target. It's bait and switch. And you fucking rubes are falling for it.
Which is why we can't have nice things.
"fixing the problem isn't difficult" yea, well you have to "want to fix" the problem in order for it to happen.
Most people would rather the problem gets worst, because its easier to replace something than it is to fix it.
Like they say , If ain't broke don't fix it, if it is broke throw it out and buy a new one because no matter how hard you try to fix it , it will never be as good as new.
this article sounds like some Glenn Beck crap. Big disappointment.
Isn't voting if you work for the government a conflict of interest? If it is the remedy the remedy in the article is: 'Get a Job, a real Job!'
Sigh... how many times must we go through this shit?
There's about a thousand different things that could fix this thing, or at least mend it. The PROBLEM is that none of them can be passed or enacted at this point BECAUSE more than half of the people are now dependent on the system (whether it's NYC banksters or Detroit hoodlums).
What part of that is so fucking hard to understand?
I am sure the government would be perfectly happy with this arrangement, although it would result in fewer votes for Obama. The government does not really care what form of slavery you chose, just as long as you do not have the option of not being a slave.
- slave to debt, taxes and a paycheck? (check ... OK by the USG)
- slave at the point of a gun? (check ... OK by the USG)
- slavery in the military or as a USG employee? (check ... OK by the USG)
- slavery as a someone convicted of breaking a government created law (check ... OK, byt he USG)
Thank God, the worm may be starting to turn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
the worm's has turned, been chewed, and swallowed.
this is the hallucination. . .