Will Obama Use An Executive Order To Enact Gun Control?

Tyler Durden's picture

Moments ago, MSNBC showed a clip in which "gun tzar" VP Joe Biden made it clear that "the President is going to act" on the issue of gun control, and that "executive orders and executive action can be taken." Of course "can" does not mean "will" as the fallout from an executive order bypassing Congress would be rather dramatic, especially on a topic so near and dear to at least half of America, and the response, to put it mildly, would make the Piers Morgan vs Alex Jones screaming match seems like a tranquil discussion between two dignified stoics. If "can" however, does become "will", America may have far bigger issues over the next two months than the debt ceiling, kicking the sequester down another several months, or even the quadrillion yen tuna.

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bigkahuna's picture

Hey All,

This is orchestrated - all of it. One way or the other the president of the USSA will get what he wants: Overbearing Control.


Sheeple shrink away from this, he goes on a sped up incremental confiscation. Perhaps this term perhaps next, DC will take a ginormous shit in our hapless direction.

Sheeple get mad and resist, he gets to declare martial law due to popular insurrection. He gets power now and sheep start getting slaughtered back into place.


We do get to choose though. It is still a free country right?

The Heart's picture

Good possible truth here. The gods of Hegel are dancing on a pin.

Is the brilliance intuition...or is intuition brilliance?

Michaelwiseguy's picture

Obama and the Democrat Agenda 21 collectivists will own the economic collapse of the USA. That's the main reason it was necessary to get Obama back in office. I knew the collectivist Marxists would uncloak and show their true stripes if we gave them the chance. Bring it on BO.

Zer0head's picture

and right on cue Alex Jones confirms in the minds of the great unwashed the caricature of those who support the 2nd Amend up until a while ago he was still trending 

from twitter

@EugeneMirman Alex Jones is probably the very government plot he's been warning us about. He's got too much solid intel to be working alone.

I thought it was a clever twit but when you think about it for a guy who is as smart as AJ and who is a pro communicator he did more damage in that one interview to the credibility of those who support the 2nd Amend.

as another twit said (and this guy is from Breitbart

@verumserum Gun control advocates have sympathetic Gabby Giffords and we have ranting Alex Jones? Good grief.


Michaelwiseguy's picture

Gabby Giffords, Barack Obama's favorite vegetable.

As long as Alex Jones becomes a household name, that's what I want. 80% of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job. First you got to get mad.

Zer0head's picture

80%? it would be great if you could point to a source for that and I am not sure that all publicity is good publicity

Michaelwiseguy's picture

The percentage outside the USA is higher.

Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story


bigkahuna's picture

I reject the official story.

Zer0head's picture

I think you said " 80% of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job." - and you base that on the Alex Jones' article, which in turn bases it on a Poll commissioned by CBS - the links are broken in the original piece but I found a copy of the acutal poll.

I am not sure that poll supports your statement:


81. When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?



CrockettAlmanac.com's picture


Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story


That doesn't mean that they believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Ron Paul disbelieves the official story but he says that the claims of 9/11 being an inside job are "ridiculous." It's just that sort of mischaractizion of the evidence that gives "Truthers" a bad name.

Michaelwiseguy's picture

George Bush can't go anywhere outside the US because he will be attested for war crimes and tried in international courts.

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture

Bismark is the capital of North Dakota.






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SamAdams's picture

That's the cover story.  Actually went to ensure the reason Obama has been sending troops.

SamAdams's picture

Correction, Magog cannot go anywhere without a secret service enclave. 

Totentänzerlied's picture

And what, exactly, has come of this? Nothing. To my knowledge, no arrests, no inquiries, no trials, no sentences, nothing.

trav777's picture

just like Jim Brady with his thumbs up

tip e. canoe's picture

Adam Lanza's a household name now too.

secret_sam's picture

   for a guy who is as smart as AJ and who is a pro communicator he did more damage in that one interview

Dude, Alex Jones' style of expression has always been the biggest hit to his credibility.  Turning red as a beet and shouting just doesn't LOOK GOOD on the teevee.  He has some good stuff to say, but his demeanor effectively ensures whatever he says will be dismissed by the vast majority of people.

Chuck Norris's picture

Agreed.  Love Alex, but so many people miss his message because of his antics.

Anybody see this yet?  Alex hasn't said much about it:


My bet: the hoax will start to unravel (just like the hoax birth certificate obama released - how convenient they killed bin laden again days after it was released and scrutinized) Obama will HAVE to enact executive order before everyone catches on to the scam.  By then the sandy hook facts will be moot, as we'll be in an armed insurrection.

Which is exactly what obama wants.

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture

That's better than a unarmed insurrection. And as insurrection is an uprising against legitimate authority those who would contravene the Second Amendment would be the insurrectionists in your example.

Totentänzerlied's picture

Ignore the message, pay attention only to the messenger. The mind(less) control programming is working.

And you're hoping this "vast majority of people" - MSM-watching oblivious, credulous fools and knaves -  will do what exactly, should a great orator of libertry appear offering sound arguments delivered with a calm demeanor?

I can answer that question: look how "the vast majority of people" reacted to Ron Paul.

And all this implies public opinion means anything. Look at Congress's ratings. And what percentage of incumbents were re-elected? What percentage of people were against TARP when it passed? What about the current and recent wars? The list goes on...

secret_sam's picture

I'm not really a hopeful type, but I know a tiny bit about PR.  Another poster said it best the other day, wish I could remember who: they found the ONE GUY to debate with who would make Piers Morgan look REASONABLE.


aerojet's picture

I upvoted you because I agree, but in practical and realistic terms, no rights exist unless you can somehow protect yourself from the state which always and forever attempts to usurp them.  In other words, for pre-existing rights to be protected, the state would have to accept that notion as well and it clearly does not.

Henry Chinaski's picture

The only rights you have are the ones that you are willing to defend.

trav777's picture

for obama to do this would be utter political suicide

otto skorzeny's picture

what the fuck does he care-the S will HTF and there will be no US of A left to vote another Zionizt puppet into office

GeezerGeek's picture

I'm confused. Is he a Zionist puppet or a Muslim sympathizer? Is he supporting the Muslim Brotherhood everywhere because he wants them to take Israel down, or is he trying to foment an anti-Israel action so Israel can justifiably retaliate? Is he pushing the nominations of Kerry and Hagel to irritate Israel, or to embolden Iran so they'll make a move and be vaproized by Israel? Or does he really want Israel brought down? And how do the Zionist puppet masters feel about all this?

Maybe it really doesn't matter, because we may perhaps be 'living' in a giant simulation of sorts. There have been serious scientific articles about the entire universe being a holographic projection, about the universe being a holographic projection surrounding a supposedly real Earth (http://www.kipnews.org/2012/01/17/scientific-evidence-that-the-entire-un...), and recently articles suggesting we may be a simulation run by our distant progeny.

Too bad the simulation, if it is one, keeps interfering with my peace of mind. 

FeralSerf's picture

The House of Saud is Jewish.


It's all part of the Hegelian Dialectic.  

secret_sam's picture

True, but his political career is already over.  The only reason any preznit would do something so stupid would be to incite mass civil unrest.

I'm sure many folks here believe the Feds are just praying for an excuse to start rolling troop-transports into the streets, but I'll make a prediction:  That ain't gonna happen any time soon.  1/9/2013.

bigkahuna's picture

We'll see. Whoever has the  best training and equipment/logistics wins the troops rolling into the streets scenario. Before that happens, the DoD may have it's own civil war.

There are a lot of sycophants in the DoD (all branches). We will see what happens as the beast finally "un-cloaks". There will likely be some type of insurrection in the armed forces-->and further, there will be those troops and NCOs/officers who will not follow illegal orders.

However, there will be plenty of boot-licking sycophants (see field grade officers and generals) and flat-liners (see senior enlisted) who will just go along to get along and order their timid junior officers, enlisted, and Soldiers to kill off any resistance. They will be well equipped, well trained, and well supported (logistically). They will follow their orders because they are either sycophants, flat-liners, or just plain scared/timid.

If anyone goes out to man up against that, they better either have a WHOLE lot of available force, and/or a whole lot of distance. Otherwise the probability of your efforts being wasted are very high. Also their is a great likelyhood of being killed off. Myself, I would rather live and die free than exist as a miserable slave.


HungryPorkChop's picture

Now's the time to do something like joining the NRA.  Blogging doesn't do anything to slow down their propaganda blitz.

NemoDeNovo's picture

Join the NRA?  ROFLMAO, you mean the same NRA the Supported the '68 Gun Control act that started us on this path on weapons limitation???  Yeah the NRA is your "Friend" in Gun Rights.....LOL

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture

Try the GOA. This guy puts the advocacy of Wayne LaPierre (not to mention Alex Jones) in perspective. Pratt is on his game.


Piers Morgan debating GOA Larry Pratt


Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Gun Owners of America is a MUCH better organization than the NRA.

uraniuman's picture

Excellent suggestion. (Actually did that yesterday on a premonition of sorts)

Treeplanter's picture

You have stated is the key fact.  Does Lord Obama want to create an exponential increase in the ranks of the Oath Keepers?  Let him start the war now, before the number od domestic drones has swelled.  Advantage patriots. 

12ToothAssassin's picture

Jan 27th *temporary* executive order announced to hold over until Congress finishes off the permanent ban on already banned (as of 1934) 'assault weapons' .

Dr. Richard Head's picture

Your quote is the perfect answer to Max Keiser's tweet that if Second Amendment rights were so important to the American people they would have used it by now.

NotApplicable's picture

Funny how he shows up in such classic agent provocateur poses. First he attacks JPM in order to get some street cred (accomplishing nothing), then attacks Austrian Economics and Mises, and now is attacking the American people directly, mocking them for not rising up against the government.

Keiser reveals his true nature a bit more every day. No wonder he's yet to respond to Tom Woods intelligently, as he obviously knows he can't.

Dr. Richard Head's picture

I used to dismiss some of max's socialistic solutions, as he was fighting against the Morgan beast.  I fear you are indeed right.

otto skorzeny's picture

if-as its said- he's banging Lauren Lyster-it would be hard to think straight with the thought of getting into that sweet poon every night.

eatthebanksters's picture

Why do we need semi automatic weapons and assault rifles:  yes to protect us from an oppressive govenrment, but from a more realistic standpoint think about the Rodney King Riots...who kept the law and order?  Not the fucking cops...they wouldn't show up.  It was the Korean dudes on the roofs of their shops with semi auto weapons.  Got a clue now?  Here's a crazy wild thought that jus may have a grain of truth in it.  If our economy implodes the inner cities will go nuts and riot.  Cops and military will not go into those places until they have burned themselves out, maybe 6 months or a year later...the cops and military don't have the numbers to handle the job while things are out of control. This whole gun control thing is happening real fast...meybe TPTB know something we don't and are tryng to take our weapons away before the shit hits the fan sooner than later..hmmm, am I crazy?

spyware-free's picture

Don't  be. It's Piers Morgan. He trolls this site under various aliases.

GeezerGeek's picture

Why don't they just take away all the illegal weapons and leave us law-abiding citizens alone? Sounds like a plan to me!

Silver Bug's picture

Wow, this would be a bad bad play on their part if they go ahead and do this.



wee-weed up's picture

They're going to do it like "boiling a frog" - gradual increments at a time.

The question is... how long before we jump?