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Is 807 The Number Of The S&P 500 Beast?

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In today's WTF moment, we note that the inexorable rise from the March 2009 lows to the most recent September 2012 highs has created exactly the same 807 point rise that the last bubble-blown levitation managed (from October 2002 to October 2007) . Curiouser and curiouser... and from a suspiciously devilish 666 low print, we can only hope our behavioral biases can cope with these glimpses.



(h/t Brad Wishak at NewEdge)


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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:28 | 3140823 AccreditedEYE
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If history is any guide, it isn't.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:35 | 3140855 whatsinaname
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btw.. is Lauren Lyster now on yahoo finance and not with RT ?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:39 | 3140869 Captain Benny
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They cancelled Capital Account!  The only reason I watched RT was for that show....

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:45 | 3140898 LawsofPhysics
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Technicals do not matter!!!  But so long as we are wasting time, what was the total debt outstanding the last time they blew that bubble?  - FAIL  Going to be some interesting bond auctions coming up.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:37 | 3141141 NotApplicable
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Range bound?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:15 | 3141517 Panafrican Funk...
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The Fed is firmy in the drivers seat re: stock market price.  It goes up or down from here based almost entirely on what they feel like doing.  

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:17 | 3141044 Stroke
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Quite the scrumptious little morsal, but that time I had to turn the sound off

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:39 | 3140874 A is A
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Yep. No more Capital Account. :'(

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:41 | 3140883 vast-dom
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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:02 | 3140979 Albertarocks
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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:18 | 3141052 Spastica Rex
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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:29 | 3140827 CPL
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Seriously...there are no rules anymore, market isn't allowed to fall until it is allowed to fall

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:29 | 3140829 Calidreaming
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If we drop sp to 666 again , I will jizz all over the computer screen

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:32 | 3140838 THX 1178
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Jizz out of sheer terror?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:38 | 3140859 irishlink
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It was just pointed out to me that the last year with 4 different digits was 1987!!!!! That should scare you.

digits ,sorry

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:06 | 3141004 turicum
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That's scary.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:25 | 3141074 viahj
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26 year spread and it sorta feels like '07.....hmmm 26+7=33.  fucking Masons.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:41 | 3141354 _ConanTheLibert...
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Damn! I wish I was back in 1987. I made a few of the biggest mistakes of my life around that time. And the music was still awesome.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:21 | 3141560 Panafrican Funk...
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'87 saw the smashing success of Bon Jovi's "Livin' On A Prayer".  You can't make this shit up.  

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:33 | 3140844 Dark Meadowlark
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There is NO BUBBLE. BE it stocks, bonds, currency, real estate, etc. You were told the rrecovery began June 2009. Any doom beyond that has been both negative to your health and your portfolio. Buy the dips and relax!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:36 | 3140856 Bay of Pigs
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Moar Green Shoots!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:34 | 3140846 Grand Supercycle
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BANK of AMERICA bearish weekly chart:

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:37 | 3140863 Ivanovich
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You've been calling for a crash for years now.  Same stupid term:  Wile E. Coyote drop.


A crash will undoubtably happen, but if it happens when you, in particular, call it, then it's just broken clock theory.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:34 | 3140847 Cognitive Dissonance
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There are no coincidences. The elite believe in magic and they just love matching magic numbers.

Doesn't matter what we believe, just what they believe.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:44 | 3140889 Dr. Engali
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Looks like there are a couple people who don't like you saying nasty things about their masters.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:48 | 3140909 magpie
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Better start reading runes and mayan glyphs into the charts instead

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:42 | 3141153 NotApplicable
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But 807 is an Angel Number!

Repeating 807 suggests that if you have been intuitively feeling that a part of your life is coming to a close or end, the repeating Angel number 807 is a message of validation for you.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3140916 Cognitive Dissonance
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Not surprised at all. So many of us, including myself, find it very difficult to shake off decades of social conditioning and mind control. To even consider that the extremely rich and powerful might not only believe in magic, but actively practice it is.........well, it's just crazy talk.

They do not blind us. They simply leverage our own conditioned blindness.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:14 | 3141033 Uber Vandal
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The definition of Magick, per A. Crowley is: the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will.

Also, other magickal means of change in conformity with will includes symbols, and words.

Symbols can be very, very powerful, such as how the meaning of an ancient symbol, the swastika, has been changed forever.

Then, there are words.... Look at how words have been renamed and re-framed. A good example is the Department of War became the Department of Defense.



Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:21 | 3141064 Spastica Rex
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Yes - but where are the symbols? They're not to be found among the stars in the sky anymore.

The human mind is wired to find patterns, whether they exist or not. This also is a behavior to be manipulated.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:32 | 3141115 francis_sawyer
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 "Not surprised at all. So many of us, including myself, find it very difficult to shake off decades of social conditioning and mind control"


Touche' ~ Some seem to actually take pride in conformity... I guess they think it's the last trick in their bag they have to get chicks 2 drop their panties for them...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:36 | 3141135 NotApplicable
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Which makes it insanely easy to generate disinformation conspiracy theories simply by connecting coincidences after the fact.

Unless you first-hand knowledge, or know your sources who do, it's hard to state any factual claim definitively with any degree of confidence. Worse yet, you might only help to undermine your own efforts by latching onto a falsehood that others quickly debunk.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:27 | 3141090 Cognitive Dissonance
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"Then, there are words.... Look at how words have been renamed and re-framed."

Including the word "Magic", which has been deliberately distorted and maligned for centuries.

Ignore what they say. Watch closely what they do.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:30 | 3141104 Uber Vandal
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Yes, magic with a k.


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:40 | 3141152 Cognitive Dissonance
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Those who are not settled with self, who do not know themselves, are often "spellbound" by words, particularly the spoken word.

The great orators of past and present were/are actually practicing Magic(k) and most of them know it and are deliberately doing so. Think carefully about the meaning of the words we use to describe the "art" of writing and the spoken word.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:48 | 3141180 CPL
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There is no religion higher than truth.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:58 | 3141216 reload
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Getting away with fraud, thats the magic trick widely practiced these days.

If I could create digital money at a keystroke and exchange it for goods and the labour of others it would surely feel completely magical. Just think of the power I would wield!

Alas I have no magical power and must serve the magicians with interest payments & taxation while enduring inflation and of course obeying the regulations they designed to protect their power.


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:34 | 3140849 NoDebt
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Lower highs, lower lows anybody?

I suspect if there is another pull-back it would likewise be to an even lower point than 666.  Not just because of the past 2 (the trend), but the fact that the Fed and all the world's central banks are out of policy bullets to lean against the wind any harder.  The next one, if it comes in the near future, won't be able to be saved.  We'll take it full in the face.


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:31 | 3141613 Panafrican Funk...
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"the Fed and all the world's central banks are out of policy bullets"

They only had one bullet to start with.  And that bullet is theoretically infinite.  At least until people stop accepting federal reserve notes for actual goods and services.  

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:35 | 3140854 rubearish10
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Who are the magicians that identify these chart patterns? WOW TD!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:37 | 3140858 Dr. Engali
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We are headed to S&P 400 as we wipe out all of the leverage from the 90s. I don't know what the time frame is, but we will work our way there. Japan is our model and deflation is a bitch.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:10 | 3141006 AynRandFan
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Didn't Benny save us from deflation by "acting aggressively"?  Or, maybe just delayed it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:46 | 3141169 Dark Meadowlark
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Saved us from monster deflation and a repeat of the Great Depression. People don't give him enough credit. Without his aggressive action we might not even be alive talking on here today. His actions saved us most likely war and another Dark Age. Thank you Ben. The system may have its flaws but it is still the best system mankind has ever known!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:45 | 3141674 akak
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Didn't Benny save us from deflation by "acting aggressively"?

Yeah, and likewise, pulling the covers over my head every night "protects" me from the equally imaginary monster who lives under my bed.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:33 | 3141625 Panafrican Funk...
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I'm totally fine with deflation.  I don't think it will ever occur again in the history of the federal reserve note.  

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:37 | 3140861 Headbanger
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History does not repeat itself

But it does rhyme


Mark Twain



Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:04 | 3140986 FoeHammer
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I like your avatar, Headbanger, as I can relate.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:13 | 3141028 Frank N. Beans
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HB, great avatar man

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:37 | 3140862 ekm
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It's about to pop.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:47 | 3141178 Dark Meadowlark
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No it's not! I am sooo sorry

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:37 | 3140865 booboo
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well, actually 902 would be the point where paper burns twice as fast:)

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:39 | 3140870 sgorem
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is this what they mean by "cyclical"? or broken record................

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:39 | 3140872 mjorden
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BTFD ... er ... wait   STFR

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:40 | 3140881 busted by the b...
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It was just a glitch in the Matrix.

Go back to sleep, Coppertop.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:03 | 3140982 pods
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Would +100 if I could.

Always chuckle when I hear Coppertop.



Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:29 | 3141099 busted by the b...
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We will all be Coppertops in 2045, if not already...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:44 | 3140891 BLACK_DOG
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I'm going long 666!


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:50 | 3140919 Say What Again
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Is that measured in millimeters?


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:48 | 3140908 TahoeBilly2012
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That is one UGLY looking chart. It looks like a lie dectector test more than a index chart.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:48 | 3140910 Downtoolong
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My favorite movie line, from Close Encounters Of The Third Kind: "This means something".


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:48 | 3140911 Say What Again
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...   "In today's WTF moment"

Say "what" again.  Go ahead - Say what again just one more time...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:11 | 3141019 pods
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Do they speak English in what?!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:39 | 3141150 Say What Again
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Oh, I'm sorry...  Did I break your concentration?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3140915 Headbanger
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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3140917 malikai
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Behavioral biases? The mistake is assuming that there are humans participating in any form of behavior. Any humans working this market are either suckers or are working the numbers.

In other news, we took some pictures of closures today.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:50 | 3140920 Zen Bernanke
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now that's symmetry!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:52 | 3140925 IamtheREALmario
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Oh, those crazy Kabalah(ists) ... ya gotta love those funny guys.... or not.

.. and BTW 807 does equal 6

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:51 | 3140929 electricgorilla
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Going long Aleister Crowley. The new Aeon of Horus. Do as thou will. Sure the bankers have taken that to heart.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:28 | 3141098 Uber Vandal
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Do as thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law.

There is no Law beyond Do what thou wilt.

But, few read further down of Liber II, and find this sentence:

From these considerations it should be clear that “Do what thou wilt” does not mean “Do what you like.” It is the apotheosis of Freedom; but it is also the strictest possible bond.


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:07 | 3141009 The worst trader
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LOst most of my money waiting for the big pop and drop. BTFD and shut the fuck up!


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:25 | 3141077 adr
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By the look of the chart we should get another crash, then a 50% rise of the bottom in six months with a two year bull market followed with another crash, 50% rise in three months, a one year bull, then crash.

It will follow the pattern until the bull markets last miliseconds and the market implodes like the WOPR at the end of WarGames.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:18 | 3141053 Frank N. Beans
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moar chart porn

minor entertainment value

even minorer actionable value

'nother words, not holding my breath that we're going to see a crash anytime soon

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:19 | 3141055 Never One Roach
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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:20 | 3141058 adr
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The market marble dropped on black the last 26 times, so I guess I'll bet black. I have a 48% chance of being right.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:21 | 3141062 Caracalla
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Shifted 50% of my life savings to TZA, TLT and SPXU on Monday with the rest invested in PMs and mining stocks.  Really waiting for that Pop and Drop!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:32 | 3141121 Burticus
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How about the same 10-year chart with the S&P 500 measured with a stable ruler, gold?

Confused?  Cut a ruler in half and re-number it 1 to 12.  Then, measure your pecker and, with a swaggering boast, show your lady friends that it's twice as long as before.

Like our gubmint and the (not really) Federal (with no) Reserve, you may need some diversionary propaganda from the cheerleading parrots in the corporate media cartel to convince them.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:00 | 3141220 SmoothCoolSmoke
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All cash..... then by UPRO everyday at 11 am, sell at 2.  GF Christ!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:56 | 3141734 Caracalla
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Looks like S & P is going to hit resistance and be turned back.  I'd be surprised (mildly) if we close over 1470

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:18 | 3142169 rubiconcap
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If you are from the "history repeats itself" camp, ZH did an interesting SPX comparison a few months back of our current timeframe vs. 2003-2008...looks like we still have a few nice legs up.

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