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Guest Post: Why You Are Powerless Against The Government

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Via Lance Roberts of Street Talk Live,

Have you ever felt powerless?  That no matter what you do it just won't make ANY difference.  You cast your vote for people to represent your best wishes but are repeatedly let down.   What can you possibly do? This is a great video from Larken Rose that clarifies the problem that we face today in our economy. It is a situation that is just too weird for 99.99% of the people to adequately explain. No commentary is needed.


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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 10:58 | 3140465 francis_sawyer
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It's a big club & you ain't in it...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:02 | 3140488 news printer
Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:05 | 3140494 MillionDollarBonus_
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I think you need to learn the definition of DEMOCRACY, idiot. In a democracy the government represents the will of the people. The people are unable to represent their own will, so they need politicians to do it for them. Liberal democrats wisely and thoughtfully point out that if the government didn't exist, the people would be unable to act according to their preferences, and the world would become a darker, more brutal place to live in. Ultimately, only politicians can provide us with peace, equality and happiness. But we have to vote for the right politicians - that's the key.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:08 | 3140507 SubjectivObject
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Hey lookit me! I'm at the top again!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:21 | 3140545 FEDbuster
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The United States is not a democracy, it is a republic.  Big difference.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:35 | 3140608 laomei
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It's neither, it's a Kleptocracy.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:39 | 3140626 S5936
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Just Erase the dot, that's all.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:46 | 3140661 cifo
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The simple answer is this: because they have unlimited resources compared to individual.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:53 | 3140682 Manthong
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“we have to vote for the right politicians - that's the key.

Spot on with that one..  and the hopeless heroin addict needs to exercise discretion in his selection of street drug dealers, too.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:33 | 3140713 THX 1178
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I know I'm gonna get downvotes... but this video is a ridiculous oversimplification.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:33 | 3140843 buckethead
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Getting junked on ZH can be a badge of honor. I have never moved well within a herd. I'll be damned if I'll start doing it here.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:53 | 3140939 CharlesFilson
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I down-voted a badge of honor.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:11 | 3141493 Fleecer
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he aptly described the few hundred as a gang.  Gangs, thru promises of wealth (and fear), make tens of thousands of their lieutenants (aka company CEOs) execute their orders... in the form of "payroll deductions".  Last time I checked, I didn't have an opportunity to "decide" if I wanted to give the gang my money.  They have the ability to take a sizeable chunk from the hundred million's "earnings" before the masses' "earnings" are ever paid.  Then, the gang's thugs only have to deal with a small subset... the ones who minimize the automatic cut, and try to keep more on April 15th by fighting the code.  The power of the dot is all about gang leverage.  The lieutenents do their part willingly, because they get wealth as reward... if they refuse, there's a million in line behind them to take the job.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:57 | 3141735 NoTTD
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All upvotes to the Hypnotoad.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 23:15 | 3143308 IllusionOfChoice
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Yeah, the dots should have mouths and eyes and stuff.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:04 | 3140738 Hugh_Jorgan
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While mildly amusing, this a 3rd grade explanation. A very thin analogy to explain the basic moving parts of civil governance, and the woeful state that we (the throng) have allowed America to get to...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:23 | 3140771 Dick Buttkiss
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Went right over your head, I see, the simple truth being so hard for 2nd graders to understand.

Fortunately, recess is only a few minutes away.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:29 | 3140826 Roger O. Thornhill
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One mising piece would be to show how the "mainstream" media acts as a magnifying glass to make the dot look bigger.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:48 | 3141185 ParkAveFlasher
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How many dots read ZH?

Yeah, that's what I thought.


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:34 | 3140848 tickhound
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So the throng, now feeling empowered, spent recess waiting in line to buy the book.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:40 | 3140879 Patriot Eke
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Uhm, I concur, and the author of this video is missing what should be an obvious truth: A majority of that 100 million are thieves and are morally okay with stealing other people's money.  They also fail to realize that even what comes to them from the government as "free" is not.  At the very least they pay a heavy inflation tax.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:56 | 3141210 boogerbently
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True, we all know what the problem is. WHAT is the solution?

More than half the 'throng" votes for the "dot" that gives them half of the "other" halfs money.

I think we (the throng) need some method of communicating. I mean ALL of us.

The 2 country method seems best, to me. Not that it would ever happen. But as a theoretical exercise.

Red country and blue country. Choose which is MORE to your liking, and move there.

Red country would FLOURISH, blue country would die (without the red countries income and discipline.)

I also am in favor of the notion that anyone receiving income from the govt doesn't get to vote. It's a "conflict of interest."

On a more possible and reasonable scale, I think the electoral college should NOT be a "winner take all" event.

The electoral votes should be split reflecting the same percentage as the popular vote.

(60% of the popular vote gets you 60% of the electoral votes).

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:19 | 3141544 RKDS
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I guess you've never seen the map of red state welfare recipients.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:15 | 3142152 Totentänzerlied
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I guess you've never seen the map of who pays for that welfare.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 10:04 | 3146888 awakening
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Using same vid in ZH article: Dot = FED, the rest of the mass = world.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 23:19 | 3143313 IllusionOfChoice
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As long as you are thinking in red and blue, there will be no flourishing. The red is all purple in reality and feeding the welfare state for votes and spending our tax dollars on global hegemony.

I guess you missed the George W Bush presidency. Man are you a lucky bastard.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:24 | 3140808 CH1
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because they have unlimited resources compared to individual.

Which they get by TAKING them from individuals!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:25 | 3142211 Totentänzerlied
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Which they accomplish by

-legislating their right to legislate, ex nihilo

-legislating your duty to obey their legislation

-legislating their right to punish you if you don't obey

-legislating their right to make you pay for the privilege of their service

-bonus: legislating their right to print essentially unlimitied fiat ""money"" at essentially 0 cost to them, which they can then exchange for things of REAL value  --- much easier than paying an army to take it by force

Which they get away with doing because ... ay (t)here's the rub ... because once a certain percentage of people decide the optimal strategy is to sit down, shut up, and go along with it, that becomes the optimal strategy for anyone (who doesn't like getting shot).

It is nothing but the application and exploitation of game theory.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:42 | 3140641 Temporis
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Can someone please point me in the direction of the government official who can properly tell me how to wipe my ass? I thought I had been doing it right all this time, but want to make sure I am 100% in compliance, for fear of imprisonment or a sentence of death.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:01 | 3140686 RockyRacoon
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There is a lot wrong with the cartoonish representation of how the "system" is supposed to work.  They left out the buying off of a large part of the population by the dot.  They left out the fact that the enforcers (dah-dah-dah) have fully automatic weapons (whereas, the populace do not) and are stockpiling ammunition. They left off the imprisonment of a representative sampling of those few citizens who do oppose the dot, thereby infusing some fear into the populace.  They left out the part of those who vote for Michell Bachmann -- year after year after year.....  They forgot to divide the populace into those who are sheep and the wolves.  I could go on.  The cartoon will appeal to that part of the population who lives day to day, hand to mouth, and are just too busy to delve into the reality of how broken the system actually is.  Well, not really, since most of them will never even see the cartoon.  Never mind.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:11 | 3140763 ThaBigPerm
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Indeed.  "Taxpayers" do not choose from among two dots, "voters" do, about half of whom are not "taxpayers".  To be accurate, there should be an equal-sized sea of dots backing up the tiny dot and enforcer, who represent those on the take (whether they be companies or individuals taking from the taxpayers, it really doesn't matter, they all represent the power base of the tiny dot).  It should have shown money being sucked from the sea of dots on the right, the little dot and enforcer skimming a bit, then handing the balance over to the sea of dots on the left.  And attempts to bribe even more taxpayers to join their fellow takers.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:29 | 3140824 Acet
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Even worse, what they put down as "enforcers" it the video are just the IRS employees.

The real enforcers are the police, courts and the military - the ones with the guns - which are far more in number and far more well armed. The IRS are just administrative personnel.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:38 | 3140867 Ghordius
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+1 they left out two thirds of the big dots

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:05 | 3140737 metastar
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No, but I'm sure there are plenty of government officials who would love for you (and the rest of us) to wipe their ass.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 18:23 | 3142442 Dick Buttkiss
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Not to worry, defication is going the way of guns and protest:

No shit. No shot. No shout.

Meanwhile, the state can kiss my ass.

And eat my shit.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:45 | 3140897 Freddie
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Keep watching TV and Hollywood's sh*t because they form and shape the sheeps opinions and keep this elite scum in control.   Your viewership keeps you a slave. Nice job.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:20 | 3141555 shovelhead
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Still angry about finding out that Howdy Doody wasn't real.

Scarred for life.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:43 | 3141675 Payable on Death
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The maker of the "Tiny Dot" posted another video--he teases the book, which seems to say we should, en masse, ignore the dot. That's what the oligarchs have more or less done--which ties quite nicely to the ZH post on rule of law.

The problem isn't so much the laws, or maybe even the dot. It's that voters are now justified to vote themselves perks when they see the oligarchs being bailed out.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:40 | 3140630 Mercury
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The United States is not a democracy, it is a republic.  Big difference.


Not quite.

The former is a species of the later.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:08 | 3140752 Hugh_Jorgan
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Big difference in how long they last...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:26 | 3140816 CH1
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The United States WAS a republic.

Fixed it for ya.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:45 | 3141161 Shell Game
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...and MUST become one again or slip into a new dark age. 


Remember when the Constitution and Constitutional money existed?  I don't either... 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:48 | 3140671 SilverDOG
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Was a republic. Read definition thereof.

Was a democracy. Read the definition thereof.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:45 | 3140895 lincolnsteffens
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It is a Constitutional Democratic Republic. Unfortunately the Constitution has been

aborted on several fronts. We are now a nation of "men", not law.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:27 | 3141089 Ruffcut
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The law of rulers over the rule of law.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:56 | 3140954 pupton
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I understand your point, but how about the "R" in USSR?  How about the People's REPUBLIC of China?  We could go on.  Rome was a some point you just have to call it what it is.  Tyranny and subjugation.  Now in America, each of us has a special tool called a gun.  So our numerical superiority is even more overwhelming.  It may be time to crush the dot and its enforcers once and for all (at least until the next time).

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:06 | 3141000 HedgeHammer
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See this is the one of our problems. Yes this country used to be a Democratic Republic, balance the MOB rule in a democracy so that the little voices could be heard over and along with the big voices. But that all changed in 1933 and we became a democracy run government. Leran your history and then and only then will you be able to why things are the way they are today.


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:16 | 3141528 zerozulu
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In a democracy people choose their leader like them self. Stupid people choose idiot leaders and jooos banker are taking advantage. leeches will stick till the last drop of blood.

Oh and the Jooos media is keeping people stupid.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:26 | 3141595 shovelhead
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Res ipsa loquitur.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:21 | 3140542 ZetaEx
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There MUST be some dead rodent on a spinning wheel inside that cavernous dark and stench filled hole you call a head... you're either an industry shill, or worse, actually BELIEVE what you spout. Friend... you need Jesus.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:02 | 3140730 Blano
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He/she is a longtime troll, and usually a pretty entertaining one.  Just enjoy it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:57 | 3140958 Melin
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MDB is a tedious narcissist. 

Unfortunately, he successfully dupes ZH newbies into exasperation and voila!, another long thread about how brilliant his simpleton fans find him.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:21 | 3140547 mtomato2
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Good stuff, MDB...  But you forgot the /sarc again.


You gotta quit doing that.  There are still people who think you are serious,!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:27 | 3140818 TheCanadianAustrian
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You don't get it. He's not making fun of the left. He's making fun of people who think he's serious. The people who think he's serious ARE the butt of the joke! And they never stop falling for it!

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 16:57 | 3145428 mtomato2
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No, I totally get it, but you're right.  The left speaks clearly for itself.  They don't need help.  MDB is talented, though, I'll say that.  Being a convincing counter-troll is not an easy thing.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:22 | 3140552 GoldenDragon
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Yes, of course.  Vote for the right politician.

I wish I would have thought of that.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:32 | 3140592 BandGap
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Keep voting for the wrong guys. Is there a way to tell beforehand as to whether or not they will do as we ask?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:01 | 3140721 slyhill
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Of course there is. They will not.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:43 | 3140644 S5936
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Yep MDB nailed it again, just ask a Native American Indian how The Govt thing works out.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:54 | 3140687 trav777
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they didn't have government, so why would anyone care what they have to say?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:05 | 3140741 GoldenDragon
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I think he is referring to the long string of broken treaties (promises) the US Gov made with indian tribes.

... and the did have a form of governance although it did not look much like others at the time.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:47 | 3140903 Ghordius
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Iroquois? their League? their Confederacy? the US of A copied some governmental techniques from their setup

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:11 | 3141248 taxpayer102
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The Iroquois Confederacy was established before European contact, complete with a constitution known as the Gayanashagowa (or "Great Law of Peace"). To this day, Iroquois law remains unchanged. It continues to guide the Grand Council of the People of the Longhouse and has influenced nations outside of the the Iroquois Confederacy as well.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:49 | 3141379 Silver Bully
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'they didn't have government, so why would anyone care what they have to say?'

I believe he may be refering to how the U.S. government's Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) has mismanaged the billions of dollars earned by corporations using indian land (logging, mining, etc). Instead of paying the tribes directly, the coprorations send the profits to the BIA's trust fund. All these profits are then dispensed by the BIA.

Funnily enough, the BIA somehow 'lost' billions of dollars over the last century. The tribes are still suing the BIA for GROSSLY mismanaging their finances - the  BIA literally has no idea how much it has actually lost, how much it actually has, and how much to give the tribes. Essentially, the BIA just gives the tribes a yearly amount, and the tribes have no say in this (much like the video above).

Look here to find some more background on this:

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:07 | 3140669 SwampHonkey
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You might have missed this in Kinder garden.

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all

Your democracy allows the intelligent, which are out numbered by idiots, to become screwed.

You may have your illusion to vote, but when the deck is stacked, its not does your vote count ,but who counts the vote?

Based on the past politic decisions do you see peace, do see equality, If so you sir you are the Idiot.And ignorance is truly bliss  that is why you are happy.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:52 | 3140676 GCT
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Happy New Year MDB! Welcome back we missed your great comments!  Your always good for luaghs.  The world cannot  get much darker or brutal these days!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:08 | 3140755 HeatMiser
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Million Dollar douchebag. The United States is not a DEMOCRACY. Its a Constitutional Republic. Idiot.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:22 | 3140799 Taint Boil
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I think you need to learn the definition of DEMOCRACY…


We are not a democracy we are a republic.


A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution).   A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule).   A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public good).



Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:05 | 3140990 alangreedspank
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Another quality post from MDB.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:29 | 3141082 q99x2
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It is worse than this if you consider the world.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:38 | 3141118 q99x2
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Bone Us; you're back.

How was La La Land?

Great to hear of your devoted servitude again.

One of the down arrows is mine.


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:28 | 3141315 libertyBull
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Million Dollar Bonus ... you are an intruder in this page, we shall destroy you!!

Personally, I just think you are acting and provoking us.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:30 | 3141323 A Nanny Moose
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PEOPLE are bad therefore we need a government made up of...PEOPLE.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:48 | 3141695 passwordis
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But the US is not a Democracy. Even if it were, your difinition does not define a democracy.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:33 | 3141925 eatthebanksters
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I lived in Costa Rica for a was backward, had none of our culture, fine dining (at least on the scale we have) and amenities.  At the time I spent 6 months there and I grew tired of it and could not wait to get home.  Now I am considering returning for good.  While if I move there I'll never again enjoy driving a Porsche down a fabulous highway and never experience the luxuries that we find here, I will be happy knowing that I'm not surrounded by a bunch of godless, guilt ridden, self righteous jerkoffs, with no moral compass or sense of honor and duty that say they know what's better for me than I know for myself. The way of the world has always been the strong survive, the fittest of the species rule...that means hard working, smart and (as much as I hate to admit it) genetic superiority (just look at the NBA and NFL...affirmative action for short people would not work...the biggest, best and smartest athletes are the ones who succeed - as they should).  I don't believe we can change natural laws or human nature.  If we could then everyone would be volunteering to help instead of lining up to take.  You can change the rules so people with limited ambition and work ethic are rewarded  by taking from those who have ambition and work hard...but then you really aren't changing the world to be a better place, your just pretending that you're doing something and assuaging your deep rooted guilt.  All these rules and changes aren't making America better and stronger, they are weakening her.  The changes going on right now promote sloth, greed and narcissm.  Communities teach values, not the government. Where do we see our government leading by example when it comes to integrity, honor, compassion, and morality? Our government has become a business of expdience over principle for the benefit of the power structure.  It will only lead to decay.  When you have a society that has values which they pass on and enforce, then you have a recipe for success.  Greed and sloth are the behavior of animals...virtue, giving (which you are not in a position to do if you take), compassion and honor are the behavior of a civilized society.  So MDB, this crap you talk about that the government represents the will of the people is exactily that:  CRAP.  Government should lead, it should take the fucking high road it should promote a better future for the people it governs.  Unfortunately, Obama and his cadre don't give a fuck about anything except their agenda and they don't care how they get it done, even if it means walking over the wills of millions of people and shitting on our constitution.  The American people will get what they asked for...they just haven't figured it out yet.  Costa Rica is looking good! 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 18:14 | 3147610 MeelionDollerBogus
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crazy people who believe in god(s) seem to actually be the source of danger in my life, including the central planners. I'd be happiest ever if I could finally be surrounded by sensible godless people.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 20:36 | 3142855 Nostradumbass
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Much Love MDB!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:03 | 3140490 trav777
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social ostracism is something many fear worse than death...this is true in the animal kingdom.

If you defy orthodoxy, they will brand you with some "-ism" and all of the herd is conditioned constantly toward a pavlovian response.

Just keep clapping and hope you're not the first to pass out.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:29 | 3140577 ball-and-chain
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I always feel powerless.

Plus I'm a scared little bitch.

Please.  I need a hug.

Help me.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:30 | 3140585 ptoemmes
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It's a big CORRUPT club & you ain't in it...


Made it more accurate...though I believe my fellow ZHers can add some more chocie adjectives to CORRUPT.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:00 | 3140712 bjfish
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please hack into DHS and post a personnel file (addresses), so that when the civil war begins these enemies of the people will not be able to hide among us.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:26 | 3140815's picture

Anonymous is part of the problem. Now they are claiming that DOS attacks, which are an attack on private property, are an expression of free speech. They are dangerous.


Anonymous Wants DDoS Recognised as an Official Form of Protest

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:57 | 3142350 Totentänzerlied
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The real issue is what such a stance reveals about their mindset - i.e. the mindset of a protest group which is seeking the state's blessing and protection. They reveal once again that they are unserious and naive. No more dangerous to TPTB than Alex Jones or the Tea Party.

PS: I have no problem with someone violating the property rights of organizations and institutions whose very existence is premised upon same.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:32 | 3141116 gabeh73
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One thing we have going for us IS the fragmentation in society. The free state project tries to get the fragmented libertarians...and that seems slow and not working too awesomely although maybe sorta promising in the long run.

But what about a more diverse the zero hedge project.... don't have to be libertarian or stick too too narrow a set of eliefs, but you do have to think free market type activities lower tax peaceful civiliations will outperform highly regulated strong central government entities. Start county project...say coosa county alabama...very poor only like 10,000 people there now...close to auburn...could get a lot of lew rockwell types...would take a few rich people for sure to take over county government, inlcuding sherrif etc...but a nice enterprise friendly low corruption government could increase land values etc enough to provide nice return on investments, to help increase capital available for the free county project. i have family...i can't go now...but any unemployed folks want a opportunity to make something happen? lots of reasonably priced pine timberland in coosa county.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:06 | 3141444 Raymond K Hessel
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But I like my narrow set of eliefs.


There is no us.  We're on our own.  Keep your head down and make low friends in high places.  Don't end up dead on the barricades like those kids in Les Mis.  Dying for liberty is not glorious.  Getting herded into a cattle car to a FEMA camp is not exciting.


Save yourself.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 18:05 | 3142387 Totentänzerlied
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You seem to think that they'll just let you walk away.

A single M1 Abrams battle tank could effectively destroy your entire county in a day. The US military owns over 8,000.

Time to think bigger. And I don't just mean buying a few RPG-7s or AT mines.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:55 | 3141207 hazden
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If the dot were enlarged to include all of the people on the government payroll (in its various forms), the picture would better explain the power of the dot.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:08 | 3141462 Raymond K Hessel
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I was thinking the same thing.  Could we similarly represent the country with these dots?  Borders are party affiliations, fill colors could be shaded for income?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:36 | 3141641 shovelhead
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Armed librarians and jack booted accountants are ready to mobilize at a moments notice.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:00 | 3140478 mrktwtch2
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just glad i was born in this country..we may have our problems..but it is still the best palce to live..and we will be on top of the pile for at least another 50

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:24 | 3140556 francis_sawyer
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So according to that logic, I guess it's... "he who dies with the most toys [Made in China] paid for by joobux ~ WINS"...


I'm so happy that I've finally discovered that my life means something based on this revelation...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:01 | 3140479 GetZeeGold
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No commentary is needed.



Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:03 | 3140734 RockyRacoon
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They meant no editorial comment needed.  You may pontificate at your leisure!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:01 | 3140482 the 300000000th...
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Because i live in the US where most people have made TV their god, and consequently have been hynotized by the main steam propaganda machines. There is no end in sight, they will ALWAYS blame someone else, never the Government

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:07 | 3140500 trav777
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they love and welcome the conditioning and the servitude is voluntary.

Etienne de Boite has a good piece on this.

It makes people feel righteous to scream "RAYCISSSS" and people and to call them commies or terrists or bigots.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:15 | 3140527 A Lunatic
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Unfortunately society is so fragmented socially through the effects of multiculteralism that the American culture is rapidly becoming irrelevent. The divisions are more easily seen as politicians manipulate certain demographics in order to remain in power. Why more people can't/won't see this is beyond me........

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:21 | 3140541 insanelysane
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Seeing requires thinking and thinking requires effort and effort is a form of work.  Think about it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:25 | 3140561 otto skorzeny
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the jews that pull the strings started to let the brown skinners in back in the 60s to dumb down the herd. i fear for my little aryan boys in a sea of dirty brown.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:56 | 3140692 GFKjunior
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Please google Honey Boo Boo. I will still take California over Alabama.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:05 | 3140743 Blano
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I'll take the Honey Boo Boo crowd over crazy bastards that vote for Feinstein, Boxer and Gov. Moonbeam anyday.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:35 | 3140786 A Lunatic
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Still, another false choice in an obsolete paradigm. We have become conditioned to accept the choices given to us with no consideration of the source. Unless we return to foundational philosophies that make for healthy and prosperous societies we will continue to make the same mistakes that have destroyed every major world power throughout history. I choose not to choose Honey Boo, Boo OR Feinstein, Boxer et al because they are BOTH largely irrelevant to the direction we need to be heading.  The politicians and MSM would have us believe we can only choose between Freedom and security; Freedom and economic prosperity; Freedom and healthcare, etc, etc, etc........

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:53 | 3141197 Shell Game
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+1   what he said

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:50 | 3141388 Herd Redirectio...
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Divide and conquer.  It ain't new.  Its been used against the US populace specifically for at least the last  80 years.  They give us something to feel  a part of, but not a large powerful group, just a subset of subset, white, male, freedom-loving, insert religion here, insert political loyalty here...  You don't get any say in terms of what goes on in the major subset, thats all been compromised some time ago (think tanks, lobbyists, propaganda, control of religious dissidents, etc.)

You give people their heros, and thats all they have to choose from.  Think Alex Jones is a shill that never criticizes Israel or Wall Street?  Think Julian Assange is a stooge that has outlived his usefulness to TPTB?  Too bad, thats who you get to choose from (apparently).

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 18:14 | 3142422 Totentänzerlied
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Hmm, I'm afraid I have to disagree.

"The politicians and MSM would have us believe we can only choose between Freedom and security; Freedom and economic prosperity; Freedom and healthcare"

No, you see, I'm afraid what they've done is convinced (nearly) everyone that we can have everything, if we just trust and allow the government, corporations, and various other institutions to lead the way and decide what's best.

Most people do not even see the dichotomy(ies) specific to any issue, they see simply "us" and "them" or "right" and "wrong". How many can actually articulate a justification for their tightly held political, social, and economic beliefs? They don't need to, the state and its apologists will do it for them, or if that becomes inconvenient, questioners will simply be shot.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:35 | 3141335 A Nanny Moose
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Irrelevant. Given the popularity of HBB, that train wreck is watch as much from CA as AL. It would not be so popular is people didin't watch it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:58 | 3140701 trav777
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they don't see it because they REFUSE TO LOOK.

I mean it's like pulling teeth to get people to actually even acknowledge who commits the vast majority of the violent crime in this country.

The TV gives them an alternate version of reality that they prefer.

Women condemn the culture, people, and history that gave them equal rights and abolished risk to them.  And they hold up as virtuous those whose homelands feature a higher probability of a woman's getting raped than graduating highschool.  It's literally insane.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:47 | 3140825's picture



I mean it's like pulling teeth to get people to actually even acknowledge who commits the vast majority of the violent crime in this country.


Governments commit the most crime in this country. Is that whom you meant?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:02 | 3140980 trav777
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case in point...

next time just say "baaaaaaaaaah"

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:35 | 3141050's picture

I had not realized that those who promote race hatred do so out of a sense of individual freedom. How silly of me to instead act like a sheep by believing that each man should be judged as an individual.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:28 | 3141291 akak
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Exactly, Crockett, and you have hit the racist nail on the head with Trav, describing exactly why he is such a reprehensible, vile and hateful person: because he is a gross collectivist.  Trav is determined to condemn (and hate) individuals according to where he believes their entire RACE falls on some Bell curve distribution of various attributes, without any consideration of them as individuals, and without any recognition that 'race' is a vague term which becomes more and more muddled as worldwide populations increasingly move and intermarry.  But no, for him we are not individuals, merely interchangeable units in some monolithic collective, to be judged as a whole.

I will again, for perhaps the 20th time, ask Trav directly the question which in his cowardice and intellectual corruption he has steadfastly refused to answer: Given your group judgements and condemnation of the black race as a whole, just what are YOUR recommendations for us as a society in dealing with these "inferiors"?  Come on, spell it all out in black and white (pun intended) --- what are your official policy prescriptions for dealing with our "racial inferiors"?  Concentration camps?  Forced sterilization?  Gas chambers?  Somehow I suspect you would be happy with all of those.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:38 | 3141346 A Nanny Moose
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Like I've said before, when they come for Trav, nobody will speak for Trav. Not because there is nobody left to speak for Trav, rather because nobody will want to.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:44 | 3141361 trav777
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and here come the rest of the sheep to bleat and try to enforce herd conformity.

you all really are pathetic.  I don't give a fk if you cretins don't speak for me; you're worthless idiots.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:58 | 3141421 akak
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Being a classic collectivist and a bitter, hate-filled troll, it is in fact you who are pathetic, Trav.


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:14 | 3141509 fuu
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I would, I might not be convincing enough to save him but I would give it a shot.

As yet Trav has not actually gone out and killed anyone to my knowledge. He talks which is still free even when I find parts of it to be repugnant or rediculous.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:53 | 3141394 trav777
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good lord you are a such a piece of sh!t.  Can you make another strawman to knock down?

I already answered all of your questions, you fk for brains, and you PUNTED in response.  GFY.  You can't HAVE a discussion with a real person, all you can do is LIE.  None of the things you attribute to me have I ACTUALLY at ANY POINT EVER said.

People like you with your cries of "HERESY" are exactly what is wrong with humanity.  If it's not this topic, it's SILVER or some other ZH echo chamber meme.

What a sad, sorry lot you all are.

I'm not going to answer your petitio principii, idiot.  I have ALREADY told you the solution to this problem...put people like YOU in gas chambers.  Individual idiots like you. 

For the rest of the people, again, INDIVIDUALS get tested.  INDIVIDUALS WHO PASS are incentivized to reproduce at higher rates.  INDIVIDUALS who don't are disincentivized.

Individuals like you are executed, because your stupidity and evil is anathema to humankind.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:32 | 3141433 akak
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Wow, the depths of your idiocy and your hypocrisy are apparently limitless.

In all your hateful and bigoted comments, you somehow always manage to focus on RACE (and condemnations thereof) rather than on individual stupidity and evil.  Invariably, your almost every post centers on supposed group characteristics, racial faults and collective judgements.  For you, the collectivist, it is all about the collective --- a classic hallmark of the weak intellect (and rotten moral center).  You are a racist in the purest sense of the term, and you are even more of a bitter, misanthropic, disingenuous idiot than I already know you are if you think that that is not instantly obvious to everyone here.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:43 | 3141358 trav777
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how many fkin logical fallacies can you commit in one post of such brevity, dude?

You're a conditioned SHEEP.  I repeatedly mention FACTS and you interpret this as HATE.  This means there is SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:54 | 3141398's picture

Well, you've CONVINCED ME.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:50 | 3140923 flattrader
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>>>Women condemn the culture, people, and history that gave them equal rights and abolished risk to them.  And they hold up as virtuous those whose homelands feature a higher probability of a woman's getting raped than graduating highschool. <<<

Sounds like someone got "dumped" or got their "nookie" turned-off.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:39 | 3141348 trav777
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huh?  I just got one less than 1/2 my age in the back seat of my car, have no clue

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:47 | 3141691 shovelhead
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It's especially painful for Trav because he married his sister.

If it's good enough for Mom and Pop...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:53 | 3140994 Ghordius
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trav, it's in the nature of women to ask for "moar"

only a very tiny (although very, very vocal) minority of them "condemn the culture", in fact you could argue that women shape the culture - even when it's a patriarchal one

but it's a woman prerogative to look for the best deal for her, it's in our very genetic setup

"they" only take what "we" give them

in your case - the US, the UK, the Scandinavian countries - it's everything they ask for

including silly laws regarding rape, harassment, equality, paternity, equality, etc. etc. etc.

"she" is in her right to ask "can I have more?" - it's you, silly man, that should know when to say: "you have had enough"

<snigger - beating trav777 at his own game>


btw, the above is only correct for women in a certain age bracket

example: in ancient Sparta, women were allowed to vote as soon as they had a son in the army


because then their voting behaviour did not show a "female" variation anymore

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 18:52 | 3142569 Totentänzerlied
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Plenty of Americans have family in the military (I know mine did, and practically everyone I grew up with) and vote for more war at every opportunity. Funny how that works.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:35 | 3141633 Abiotic Oil
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"I mean it's like pulling teeth to get people to actually even acknowledge who commits the vast majority of the violent crime in this country."

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 13:12 | 3141025 Anasteus
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An interesting video but I had to laugh at the final part. After the brilliant explanation I expected something like 'move on, people', 'let's organize and take part in meetings', 'let's prepare and sign petitions' and so. The video ends up with announcing a new book available to buy :-)) ...much like an impressive marketing PR. Everything can be turned into the cash.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:19 | 3140536 GeorgeHayduke
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Because i live in the US where most people have made money and appearing to be wealthy their god, and consequently have been hynotized by the corporate main steam propaganda machines. There is no end in sight, they will ALWAYS blame someone else, never themselves.

Fixed it for ya.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:30 | 3140830's picture

Yeah, and it's all your fault.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:02 | 3140487 Meatballs
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Legion of enforcers Bitchez! 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:04 | 3140492 radix46
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The problem with this video is that it misunderstands that the majority of people want the government.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:55 | 3140688 SilverDOG
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The misunderstanding is done by the majority.


As they are told to WANT the govt, on the mind control box in every room of their house.

The goddamn TV. 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:04 | 3140493 unplugged
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Premise:  "You Are Powerless Against The Government"

I call bullshit - I don't buy it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:17 | 3140501 Cognitive Dissonance
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"They" want us to simply give up and give in.

<Ya can't fight city hall.>


Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:24 | 3140559 FEDbuster
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"The fiercest serpent may be overcome by a swarm of ants." Isoroku Yamamoto

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:34 | 3140851's picture

Or the ants can hire a mongoose who's willing to fairly trade value for value.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:44 | 3141364 A Nanny Moose
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What if the serpent hires an Aardvark first?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 14:55 | 3141405's picture

Then we go to def-con one and launch the elephants.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:40 | 3140599 CH1
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<Ya can't fight city hall.> Bullshit.

Okay, but how, exactly, do you intend to fight?

Please, please don't say, "write your legislature" or "get out the vote."

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 11:55 | 3140678 francis_sawyer
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The pen is mightier than the sword... [& I'm NOT talking about 'writing the legislature']...

Instead ~ you achieve your objectives when you convince the masses [of ants] that they have been 'snowed' [by Schwartz & Company]... It gets tedious to do so... Just ask francis_sawyer... I try to do this every day and receive nothing but junks for my efforts... Can't say I didn't try...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:06 | 3140745 RockyRacoon
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I could tolerate much of what you write if you weren't a one-trick joopony.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:38 | 3140864's picture

I happily add a downvote to every one of francis sawyer's joobux posts. And I'm anti-Fed and pro-Palestinian.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:45 | 3140896 francis_sawyer
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It's called 'Stockholm Syndrome'...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:49 | 3140918's picture

No, it's called a rejection of collectivism.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:56 | 3140953 francis_sawyer
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The only "collectivism" anywhere to be found is the brainwashing that has occurred over the past century (& before)...


The poll, below, is a SLAM DUNK... Therefore, abstaining from casting a vote is a 'de facto' vote for the GREEN ARROW scenario... Collectivism notwithstanding...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:08 | 3140756 CH1
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I try to do this every day and receive nothing but junks for my efforts

You get junks for hating on the Jews.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:27 | 3140769 francis_sawyer
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It is YOU, my friend, that is a "one trick pony"... I hate on people who steal my [& other peoples] money... Almost EVERY article on ZH, at its fundamental base, has something to do with the iniquity of that phenomenon... We will never, ever, even so much as INCH towards balance until reality is confronted...


So WHOEVER is MOST responsible for doing that [stealing my & everyone elses money & in the process, encouraging conflict & warfare] is my enemy... So far ~ I've ruled out the 'Trekkies' & a few others...


As for the "junks" themselves... I point them out, but it's FAR FROM being bothersome... I make comments, in part, to be controversial & to communicate OUTSIDE the realm of "groupthink"... So making these [as RR described as "one trick pony"] comments serves as a WEATHER BALLOON for me... The "junks" themselves indicate to me just how FAR we really are to solving any of these problems...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:35 | 3140845 francis_sawyer
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<== Airstrike Iran, Corzine Free, Fed Printing money willy nilly for benefit of cronies, GS control of world = GOOD (space limitations in effect here)

<== Sound money [ostensibly "gold'], unmanipulated markets, elimination of "debt as oney" = GOOD


Hey ~ let's take an informal poll (vote accordngly above)

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:39 | 3140871's picture

And now ZOG boy is talking to himself.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:44 | 3140888 francis_sawyer
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plan on casting a vote there upstairs 'non-sequitur' boy?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:51 | 3140930's picture

So you'd like to entrap me in your distorted world by inviting me to vote just like government does? No thanks.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 12:23 | 3140803 Thisson
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You would be much more convincing without your divisive jew-bashing comments.  Because you're 90% right, you just fail to realize that all of the elite are evil, whether they are jews or gentiles.

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