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Two People Shot In California High School

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With gun tzar Joe Biden expected to propose his "gun recommendations" to Obama by next Tuesday, a proposal which will certainly involve some additional measure of gun control, the last thing the nation needed was more gas being poured into the fire today. Yet that is precisely what it got following news that two people had been shot, one of which reportedly a student, at Taft Union High School in the San Joaquin Valley in California earlier. From AP: "A student was shot and wounded at a San Joaquin Valley high school Thursday and a suspect was taken into custody, officials said. The shooting occurred about 9 a.m. at Taft Union High School, an oil and agricultural community about 120 miles northwest of Los Angeles. The student who was shot was flown to a hospital in Bakersfield, said Ray Pruitt, spokesman for the Kern County Sheriff’s Department. There was no immediate word on the victim’s condition. “We have a suspect in custody,” Pruitt said, adding that the person was believed to be a student. Pruitt said it’s believed a shotgun was used in the attack. KERO-TV Bakersfield reported that the station received phone calls from people inside the school who hid in closets."

Reuters adds: "A California ABC affiliate reported that sheriff's deputies were going room-by-room to secure the school and that two people had been shot, but had no immediate word on their condition. It said the shooter had been apprehended by police." Needless to say this will merely inflame tensions over both the cause of such incidents, as well as the mandated response, yet will hardly lead to an amicable resolution for people on both sides of the argument.

Meanwhile, USA today reports:

Vice President Biden said Thursday that he plans to deliver his gun violence task force's recommendations to President Obama by early next week.

 

"I have committed to him that I will have the recommendations to him by Tuesday," Biden said.

 

The vice president's comments came at the start of a meeting with representatives of hunters and wildlife interest groups. Biden was tapped to develop a broad set of recommendations for Obama in the aftermath of last month's shooting tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

 

The vice president said he is considering several recommendations he has heard repeatedly from stakeholders — including instituting universal background checks and limiting size of high-capacity magazines.

 

"There is a surprising, so far, recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks," Biden said.

 

Later Thursday afternoon, Biden and other senior administration officials will meet with representatives from gun rights groups, including James Baker, legislative director of the powerful National Rifle Association (NRA).

 

Biden, along with Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, are also scheduled to meet with entertainment industry executives later Thursday.

At this rate February is shaping up to be quite an active month: the debt ceiling, the sequester, possibly more tax hikes, and to top it all: gun control. At least the market is convinced that all will be promptly and effectively resolved, if few others.

 


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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Yesterday :

Bakersfield school officials take part in shooting survival training

Officials from Southern California colleges and schools are being trained in how to survive an attack by a campus gunman.

A two-day seminar concluded Tuesday with a simulated gunman stalking a dormitory at San Diego State University. About two dozen participants from school districts and universities in San Diego County, Los Angeles and Bakersfield, along with some police and private security personnel, took part.

They practiced barricading doors, hiding, escaping and confronting the gunman.

All a big coincidence i'm sure.

BTW it took the cops 20 minutes to show up.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Stackers
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Dont these people know it's illegal to take a gun into a school ???

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment Xibalba
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stricter gun laws will fix it!  

 

 

oh wait.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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Exactly.  Making narcotic drugs illegal sure solved the drug problem.

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:15 | Link to Comment SilverDOG
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Nah.

Utilizing the power of tyranny will suffice.

The killings have begun stateside.

http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_cras...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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So making guns illegal will take them off the streets?

We should make heroin and meth illegal!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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Refused treatment….. must be gang related. Nuff said

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:48 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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Two thoughts ...

1)  Only two? That's not even worthy of mention in a crawl much less a headline.

2) Schools are obviously an attractive nuisance to shooters ... it's the schools we need to ban.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Supernova Born
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This would not have occurred if California banned high capacity magazines and assault weapons.

Wait...they already have?

When then the only reasonable step is to ban all guns.

/sarc

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:12 | Link to Comment CPL
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http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Anyone-here-from-Kern-County-Cali?page=1

 

Someone actually posted about this happening yesterday.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:58 | Link to Comment DollarMenu
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Thanks, CPL that was one very interesting trail you led me to.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:09 | Link to Comment strannick
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A shotgun was used? But about Obama's ''yáll can tell yer buddies I wont be taken yer shotguns''

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:38 | Link to Comment CPL
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If it helps answer questions more than happy to share.  All a man can do is arm himself with knowledge.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:54 | Link to Comment SheepHerder
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This probably happens on a weekly basis in drug infested, crime ridden inner city neighborhoods (ie South Side Chicago, Compton, etc.).  So why the hell is this suddenly news?  Oh wait the MSM has an agenda.  Carry on.  

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 22:43 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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Guns don't kill people, bangers kill people.

Well, bangers kill other bangers, who, I guess, are TECHNICALLY, people.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 02:50 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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'This probably happens...'

So you make this shit up and the problem becomes something else.

Now it's a hidden agenda issue is it, not guns in the wrong hands and more children being shot...

 or should I say some arsehole's absolute legal right to own lethal weapons in a peaceful society...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 04:59 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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This was Taft. Taft is known for being a hot bed of White-Supremicists and Mexican Cartels. Just in case some of you were not aware of this.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:02 | Link to Comment The Heart
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If this proves true, it would reveal all that everyone already knows. There is a hard agenda of gun control at work that comes down to more profiting for the gun and ammo manufacturers at first, and then the disarming of America for a future attack from outside. All this is something to investigate. Like this report about the Cali False Flag Event that just took place. Did someone have preconceived knowledge that this was going to happen and then post it on LOP?

The video hype of the Event in Cali:

http://12160.info/page/sheriff-s-dept-to-hold-news-conference-at-taft-hi...

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:21 | Link to Comment CPL
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I've suspected that there is a direction behind all of these for about a year.  But I believe it has to do with suicide hotlines.  I've caught assholes in ircc trying to get people to do stupid things and I've seen it posted in various forums.  Someone is driving this.  A kid will come in with a "bawl thread", there will be the attempt to talk them down then a dogpile of assholes will storm a usually quiet thread, giving kids explicit instructions on where to get guns, ammo, money, everything. 

These kids are getting profiled and stalked.  Suicidal, Male, white, basement dweller, 18-25, likes video games, filthy humour and porn.  Someone pushes their buttons with this nonsense.  Then they get turned lose. 

LOP is just a corkboard.  That was noticed because there are anons out there with nothing better to do than find this stuff that were raising flags about it.  I believe they were attempting to notify authories and they were unsuccessful.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 22:47 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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LOP????

Come on honey, don't text and post.

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/lop

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 07:35 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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No, in this instance, LOP is lunaticoutpost.com.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:17 | Link to Comment chunga
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Somebody fooling around with time stamps?

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:23 | Link to Comment CPL
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Nope site is legit.   Been around for a while, just mootbats talking UFO's and astronomy spending quality time with one another.  

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:27 | Link to Comment chunga
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That's fucked up man.

I'm going through the pages now.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment CPL
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It is very fucked up.  As you can see the Citizen Anons are all over it like a dirty shirt.  I think there are no less than ten threads on 4chan running about it in /b/ /k/ and /pol/.

 

I would suggest to anyone with nothing better to do but lurk one of the threads and watch thousands of hands stalk the web for any scrap of information.  Be mindul that some of the participants are lying sacks of shit, so avoid a conclusion if at all possible.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:42 | Link to Comment chunga
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Agreed on the conclusions.

It's nearly impossible to conclude anything these days.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 23:04 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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CPL, I mean this WADR. Where the F do you find the time to "know entirely too much?"

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 08:37 | Link to Comment CPL
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I have the machines do the work and find things for me like a news ticker.  Most of it is just using the API's the various companies offer and hacking them together and putting some intelligence behind the sorting process.

My only limitation is a question that needs an answer.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment bank guy in Brussels
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Restrictions of private firearm ownership and gun confiscation led to the killing of over 100 million people

An ultimate pro-gun debate point

The 'genocide chart', with nine 20th century government episodes of governments killing millions ...

The common element in each one, was government confiscating guns beforehand

Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Nationalist China, Communist China, Turkey, Guatemala, Uganda, Cambodia and most recently Rwanda in the 1990s

Specific laws to limit and confiscate privately-owned guns, documented in each case

From the Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership, or JPFO, 'Death by Gun Control'

http://jpfo.org/pdf02/genocide-chart.pdf

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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Bank guy,

Under the utilitarian Communist system, I think Romania, Hungary and others, you had to register the typewrites. I kid you not.

Look how well that worked out. 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
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Ramifications of Gun Control

Ottoman Turkey 1915-1917
Target: Armenians (mostly Christians)
Killed: 1-1.5 million
Gun Laws: Art. 166, Pen. Code, 1866 & 1911 Proclamation, 1915
• Permits required
•Government list of owners
•Ban on possession

 

Soviet Union 1929-1945
Targets: Political opponents; farming communities
Killed: 20 million
Gun Laws: Resolutions, 1918 Decree, July 12, 1920, Art. 59 & 182, Pen. code, 1926
•Licensing of owners
•Ban on possession
•Severe penalties

 

Nazi Germany & Occupied Europe 1933-1945
Targets: Political opponents; Jews; Gypsies; critics; “examples”
Killed: 20 million
Gun Laws: Law on Firearms & Ammun., 1928, Weapon Law, March 18, 1938, Regulations against Jews, 1938
•Registration & Licensing
•Stricter handgun laws
•Ban on possession

 

China, Nationalist 1927-1949
Targets: Political opponents; army conscripts; others
Killed: 10 million
Gun Laws : Art. 205, Crim. Code, 1914, Art. 186-87, Crim. Code, 1935
•Government permit system
•Ban on private ownership

 

China, Red 1949-1952, 1957-1960, 1966-1976
Targets: Political opponents; Rural populations Enemies of the state
Killed: 20-35 million
Gun Laws: Act of Feb. 20, 1951, Act of Oct. 22, 1957
•Prison or death to “counter-revolutionary criminals” and anyone resisting any government program
•Death penalty for supply guns to such “criminals”

 

Guatemala 1960-1981
Targets: Mayans & other Indians; political enemies
Killed: 100,000-200,000
Gun Laws: Decree 36, Nov 25, Act of 1932Decree 386, 1947, Decree 283, 1964
•Register guns & owners
•Licensing with high fees
•Prohibit carrying guns
•Bans on guns, sharp tools
•Confiscation powers

 

 

 

 

Uganda 1971-1979
Target: Christians, Political enemies
Killed: 300,000
Gun Laws: Firearms Ordinance, 1955, Firearms Act, 1970
•Register all guns & owners
•Licenses for transactions
•Warrantless searches
•Confiscation powers

 

Cambodia (Khmer Rouge) 1975-1979
Targets: Educated Persons; Political enemies
Killed: 2 million
Gun Laws: Art. 322-328, Penal Code, Royal Ordinance 55, 1938
•Licenses for guns, owners, ammunition & transactions
•Photo ID with fingerprints
•License inspected quarterly

 

Rwanda 1994
Targets: Tutsi people
Killed: 800,000
Gun Laws: Decree-Law No. 12, 1979
•Register guns, owners, ammunition
•Owners must justify need
•Concealable guns illegal
•Confiscating powers

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:48 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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United States of America 2013-2016

Targets:  American Citizens

Killed:    100 Million 

Gun Laws:  N/A Total economic and social collapse.

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 18:03 | Link to Comment max2205
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Wow, talk about a hit to GDP!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 22:50 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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That's the ONLY reason I don't see them allowing a collapse.

They need our $$$. Our work, our purchases, our investments, our borrowing.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 19:01 | Link to Comment CPL
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200 million if judging by the coffins order two years ago.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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1750-1900? Native Americans anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 23:05 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Democided. Perhaps we need to outlaw Gubmint?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:27 | Link to Comment BLOTTO
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Gun control isn't about guns...its about control.

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'They' hate guns in the hands of those that have a fuckin BARREL lock&loaded at the back of their head.

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Sun-worshipping, occultist evil fuckin pigs.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:37 | Link to Comment Karl von Bahnhof
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Ever heard about Saturn?

http://saturndeathcult.com/

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 22:54 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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That pictograph looks about 3 years old !

Wasn't that a Warren Zevon song....no, that was lawyers, guns and money.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:49 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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Wouldn't the correct phrase be, "They hate us for our freedoms" ???

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:28 | Link to Comment knukles
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And bankers

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment CH1
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We must ban schools!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 22:55 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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To be completely safe, lets just ban victims.

Then it will be their own fault.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 23:09 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Just government run/controlled/funded schools. This would include (but not be limited to) those funded by the Student Loan Bubble.

When do we start?

http://edu-lu-tion.com/

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:15 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
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Gun Grabbing Biden stated today:

“The public wants us to act,”

Yes, we do want to act Mr. Biden. We want you to do your REAL JOB!

We are sick and tired of you just catering to the Rockefeller’s and Rothschild’ who we know who are Globalists Devil Worshippers who want complete control over all USA Citizens by grabbing our guns.

Tell your Black Ops Goons to stop running their False Flag Operations at the Schools and elsewhere, and you need to start doing your Freakin Real Job Mr. Biden. Work on the Economy, Jobs, and your other Duties stated by the USA Constitution. Stealing our 2nd Amendment of our USA Constitution is Treason Mr. Gun Grabbing Biden. The Tax Payers of the USA are not paying your Salary to Steal Our Guns you Idiot.

Hey Biden:

Just ask the Guy sitting next to you about Illegal Guns and Gangs Information: you know the guy sitting next to you: don’t you? His name is: Eric Gun Running Holder: Mr. Fast and Furious himself: ask him Biden, Mr. Holder is the expert about Illegal Guns getting in the hands of Mexican Gangs.

CRIMINALS protecting their Global Criminal Cabal Crime Syndicate.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment pods
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Maybe we are looking at it from the wrong angle?  

Why not make it illegal to get hit by a bullet?

If you search the news briefs on my local online rag (WRAL) you will see 5 or 6 shootings a night.  Mostly Durham or Fayettenam, but shootings are pretty common.

As are the home invasions with rapes and shootings, etc.

This is what happens when society cracks.  Toss in how we have this collective delusion that we are not totally fucked and you have some cog dis stress to leverage it up.

When people snap, the snap on those closest to them.

Life ain't sunshine and roses.  There are very bad people out there.

That is why you NEED 20 rds of 7.62x51(or 39 for our russian friends) to stop this shit pronto.

I have seen zero news reports on the internet of anyone being victimized by a perp who was previously shot dead by an HK, FN FAL, etc.

Nope, we have to pretend things are fine and let the hordes rape and pillage the most vulnerable among us.

Or we can be brave and dial 911 for the state to come and save us.

Fuck em, break into my house and I will keep shooting till all my mags are empty.  No open casket for you.

pods

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:38 | Link to Comment dtwn
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Cool, WRAL-region local here as well.  That Raleigh Oakwood home invasion resulting in a shooting and sexual assault could have been stopped with a firearm.  Or even just a deadbolt on the bedroom door.  People need to think about passive defense (deadbolts, steel doors/door frames) also with the future deterioration of society.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:43 | Link to Comment pods
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fila_Brasileiro

That is the next pup to be in pod's house.  Finest guard dog hands down.

The Oakwood thing was awful, but it is really quite common (among the poor).

pods

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:17 | Link to Comment stormsailor
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just west of you near charlotte.  its bad around here too,  a lot of the home invasion, carjacking,  robbing and killing.  most of the perps are of the protected flavor.

 

if they bust in my door,  will be a different story, i have weapons all over the doggone place not many places in my home where 2 are not within easy reach. all locked and cocked.

 

i notice that most of the perps caught have long, extensive records and convictions,  80% are out-on-parole, whatever that means anymore.  i mean the parole system really protects people like the president of the student body at unc,  the admin that overlooked them couldn't even be fired or disciplined, sheesh what a system.

 

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Simplifiedfrisbee
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Join the gun club kids. Universities require it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a Gummin Agency.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Lohn Jocke
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One would Imagine that a shotgun would be a bit noticeable.

"Hm, what's that long case Freddy brought onto the bus? He must he trying out for field hockey..."

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:57 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Not if it looks like you are prayin at the time.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Oops, there goes RGR!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:19 | Link to Comment fuu
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Dark.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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<del>

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
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They finished running drills of shooters in Bakersfield schools on Tuesday this week just like at Sandy Hook now this happens. Coincidence? I highly doubt it.  Hmmm, weren't drills being run the morning of 911? 

The BlackOps/PsyOps aren't working. 

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:36 | Link to Comment Pool Shark
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Here's the scoop on this shooting:

Shooter was a student who had been bullied by the victim; went home, returned with shotgun and fired on bully. Second victim was teacher who got caught in cross-fire - minor injuries; refused medical treatment.

First victim was airlifted to local hospital, where he is now expected to survive.

So now we have two hotbutton issues to hear the pundicts whine about:

1) Gun control

2) Bullying

 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:56 | Link to Comment GCT
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3) Shotgun control 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Zap Powerz
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Bet the bully thinks twice about bullying again.  Bet the shooter never ever gets bullied in school again.  Are you going to bully a kid that is willing to shoot you with a shot gun if you piss him off?

Guns, making men equal.  Love it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:22 | Link to Comment knukles
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How the fuck come every single one of these abominations seemingly is accompanied by a drill, practice, responders on site....

There are just way too many coincidences ...

Way outside the realm of reasonable.  100,000,000th standard deviation events ..........

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:23 | Link to Comment pods
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My all time favorite was the London Tube bombings.  

Someone actually worked out the chances of the bombs going off at the same exact place/time as the concurrent drill.

They were greater than two people picking up the same exact grain of sand (independently) on the planet.

pods

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:29 | Link to Comment e_goldstein
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Sorry to be the first to tell you, no critical thinking in the new Amerika.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment tango
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There are seemingly drills and practices because every county in the country is now conducting them round the clock.   Speeders are safer now that law enforcement has been redirected.  I cannot imagine why anyone in their right mind would think a single deranged blast with a shotgun was part of some conspiracy.  Wouldn't you think they'd at least use a repeating gun to enforce current thinking? 

I grew up where everyone had guns.  I took an NRA safety course and soon learned I hated hunting or shooting a gun.  But I cannot recall where folks routinely went insane such as occurs today.  It was beyond the realm.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:32 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Did the cops wait outside for the shooting to stop like they did in Columbine?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:21 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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ANOTHER FUCKING FALSE FLAG HOAX...

If this doesn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that these new neo fascist mother fuckers have NO PROBLEM KILLING KIDS TO FURTHER THE CAUSE OF GUN CONFISCATION..

 

LIBERALS ARE THE NEW CHILD KILLERS...............

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:38 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Unless the training involves how to shoot back, I'm not interested.  It would need other components as well, I don't advocate always responding with gunfire, but leaving out that key component seems wrong.

 

Also, since the level of narcissism in our society is at an all time high, as more and more people come to the realization that they aren't all rock and movie stars, the realignment of their self-images may be expressed violently and outwardly in many cases.  What I'm saying is, expect more public shootings and plan accordingly.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Living The Dream
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My heart goes out to those hurt, but isn't this just a bit too convenient?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:08 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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Never let a good crisis go to waste...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:15 | Link to Comment General Decline
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They won't.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:30 | Link to Comment knukles
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And always manufacture a good crisis if one's not already unfolding
False flags galore

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:09 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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There are thousands of shootings each year and now every single one of them will be featured news. The miliion occasions on which Americans use a gun to protect themselves and their loved ones each year from such attacks will hardly be noted.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Shootings on school grounds will always be news, and probably should be.

Of course all that does is signal the wackos they should do their thing on or near a school ...

We can't really win.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:23 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Yes, of course. But why are stories in which responsible individuals defend themselves and others with a gun so often ignored, buried and forgotten? That's my point. The news media reports according to an agenda.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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Piers "Redcoat" Morgan is trying to re-make his "career" as a libtard mouthpiece for the anti-gunners.  He should move his show to MSNBC were he would find a receptive audience.  

Maybe FOX should have a half hour show devoted to law abiding citizens using firearms to protect themselves and their families?  Feature three stories a show of someone using a gun in self-defense.  I would watch it.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 02:50 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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...and The O'bamabot will defend him. Won't make a bit of difference until we are able to point out the gun in the room.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Hype Alert
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As someone once told me, if deer could shoot back they wouldn't be hunted.  The same is true for teachers and staff. 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Sean7k
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Close to 500,000 deaths because of cigarettes per year. Where is the working group to eliminate cigarettes? 

We don't seem to have a problem with war deaths and causalties. Where's the working group on ending offensive warfare?

Drunk driving?

Pharmacology?

Idiotic behavior? 

Pollution? 

We haven't even discussed governmental tyranny, banker criminality, corporate rape and pillage. Why don't these little groups figure out why people are so pissed off, they run around shooting people? 

Wait, all those things kill off the population, but guns, guns just might get aimed at them if things get bad enough... I guess I can see their motivation...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:27 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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or Suicide, the death statistic no one ever talks about.  Which accounts for a majority of gun deaths each year.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment trollin4sukrz
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They did a piece on the evening news last night about that nigger getting his face shot off by a white lady protecting her kids and self after that bastard chased her into the attic with a crow bar. Thank God she had a .38

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:31 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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My guess is you got junked for the use of the word "nigger".  It's ok for Chris Rock, Richard Pryor,etc... to use it in this context to describe a home invader, but not the rest of us.  

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 21:31 | Link to Comment Fedaykinx
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my guess is you also got junked for telling the truth about the word nigger.

bunch of stupid honkey motherfuckers.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 22:16 | Link to Comment gnomon
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Nigger is simply the name for black "white trash".   And being called "white trash" speaks for itself.  Each group is equally reprehensible.  Unfortunately LBJ's Great Society programs and the subsequent creation of generational welfare has greatly increased the ranks of niggers and white trash.

That is it in a nutshell.  It is calling a spade a spade whether they be white or black.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Interesting that Holder the criminal attanding a meeting about criminals

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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What better confirmation would one need that the official policy is to disarm law abiding citizens while providing criminals with thousands of high capacity semi-automatic weapons.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:32 | Link to Comment knukles
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Confiscate, send to Mexico

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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Yet more blood on the hands of the pro gun brigade.

I work for the government, regulating small businesses. In my social circles a pro-gun activist is no better than a child killer - indeed, the two are one and the same. Only when society reaches our level of morality can we hope to live in true peace.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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 "Only when society reaches our level of morality can we hope to live in true peace."

~~~

Meanwhile ~ the wise sages on ZH take to calling francis_sawyer a 'COLLECTIVIST'...

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Looks like the ZH crowd is rather sagelike as they appear to have liitle tolerance for either MAXIpsycho or for your "joobux" ravings.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:35 | Link to Comment Freddie
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 "Only when society reaches our level of morality can we hope to live in true peace."

Sounds like old USSR propganda doublespeak or just the same shit the liberal Democrats and O spew every day. \

Forward Soviet! 

Hope & Change!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment Karl von Bahnhof
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Will be changed to "Hope for a change" soon.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:08 | Link to Comment bigdumbnugly
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that's pretty deep stuff, max, especially for a government worker looking for something to regulate.

needs polish though.   contact mdb.  

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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Another government turd counter with an opinion.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:30 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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I thought it had a really slick Brave New World feel to it.

[edit: I could probably do better. Challenge accepted! Imma create a troll account now, you bitchez are gonna get your rookie asses punk'd!]

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:33 | Link to Comment knukles
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Pleeeeeeeze no.....

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:06 | Link to Comment tango
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It's a damn joke. Jesus, don't posters have a sense of humor anymore?  Nobody could be that damn dumb.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 21:33 | Link to Comment Fedaykinx
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a sense of humor about this?  no.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:27 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Nice trolling dude. You'll be in double-negative-digits before anyone notices.

[edit: okay homiez I called it!]

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:48 | Link to Comment chunga
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What's the magic number for junks?

I've only seen it happen twice and it happened real fast.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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-42

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:10 | Link to Comment GubbermintWorker
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Nah, you work for a spammer methinks.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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You are the winner of the hypocite of 2013 award.

An overpaid,over pensioned ,employee of the most corrupt

US Govt. ever, preaching morality.

Your prize ,an AR15 awaits you.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:17 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Wait dammit that's a pretty sweet prize! You can't lay hands on one of those for love nor money right now.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:35 | Link to Comment GubbermintWorker
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I think the prize referred to isn't the actual AR15, but the 5.56 piece of lead it projects.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:59 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Wait dammit that's also a pretty sweet prize! Can't find ammo these days for love nor money.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 21:35 | Link to Comment Fedaykinx
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hard to reuse the lead after it's zipped through your torso at about 3k+ fps

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:37 | Link to Comment knukles
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Except through governmental inventories...

Just like the Fast and Furious weaponry

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:36 | Link to Comment e_goldstein
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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Only when society reaches our level of morality can we hope to live in true peace.

 

And the way to do that is to have the loving hand of government take up its superior firepower to shoot down anyone who professes self ownership like a dog. Forward!

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 03:05 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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LOL! Fear of that which is different.

To the group, I am headed down to a conference with the FBI next week on securing "pewblik gud" assets. Given my inability to "bite my tongue"....any advice?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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You're no MDB that's for sure. At least he's creative and most importantly...funny.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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I wouldn't go that far....

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:15 | Link to Comment pupton
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MillionDollarBonus does "stupid statist" way better than you, but thanks for playing. 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Raymond K Hessel
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You SPIKE that football!! 

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Oldballplayer
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You have to get better friends.  On the day of the long rope, without them.....I dont want to think about it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:17 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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you are a killer by regulating small businesses and causing starvation among the owners. Go fuck yourself

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:18 | Link to Comment SilverDOG
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theMAXILOPEZpsycho,

 

 

Regulating small businesses.. you f*&^ing thief.

How is that corporate business pole in your mouth.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment General Decline
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"I work for the government, regulating small businesses. In my social circles a pro-gun activist is no better than a child killer - indeed, the two are one and the same."

In my social circles a government worker regulating small businesses is no better than a child molester- one and the same.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:41 | Link to Comment LeisureSmith
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Down-vote bottom trawling like a boss. "I work for the government, regulating small businesses" Effective legend.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment TedBagwell
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Fuck off troll

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment European American
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"Yet more blood on the hands of the pro gun brigade."

 

I believe you have that backwards, i.e. more blood on the anti gun brigade. Arm that psychopathic army and we'd have one dangerously lethal collective on our hands...send them to Afgan.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 17:23 | Link to Comment Rogue Trooper
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Wow -71 and counting.... the fastest -100 in ZH history is a real possibility.

MAXI.. good luck when the Obamafone crowd come looking for food 'cause the EBT cards stopped working.

Still you and your 'social circle jerk' will, indeed, go down knowing you took the moral high ground.

When they come callin' ASK for a reach around....

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment Jason T
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how convienent.. 

0:57-:2:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp8Q7biFHoY

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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In NYC :

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Subway-Platform-Shooting-Victim-Bro...

A 19-year-old man was shot in the face on a subway platform in Brooklyn early Thursday, police said.

The victim was shot on a No. 3 train platform in Brownsville near Saratoga Avenue at about 2 a.m. He was taken to Brookdale Hospital, where he is listed in stable condition.

The circumstances leading up to the shooting weren't immediately clear.

No arrests have been made.

But but but it's impossible! Guns are illegal in NYC!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:22 | Link to Comment Raymond K Hessel
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Obviously a person who can legally carry a handgun shot this kid.  Who can legally carry a handgun in NYC?  Cops, celebrity/wealthy bodyguards, doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, store owners...., mmm that's it.  

Should be easy to track this bastard down!!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Not unexpected in the least. Very opportune for those with an agenda, wouldn't you say?

<Can you say Reichstag fire.>

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Zap Powerz
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The mass murder in Conn will not be the last of its kind.  There will be more in order to justify "sensible" gun control laws.

Fast n Furious

Newtown Conn.

Aurora Co.

Next.....

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:13 | Link to Comment Captain Benny
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Keep dreaming --- Not like the criminal at the top will direct sub criminals to prosecute eachother....

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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See that's why everyone over here wears those baggy pants on the ground, so they can pack in long gun heat.

Next month will be a Sidewinder. Wait for it.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"Next month will be a Sidewinder. Wait for it."

Think BIG cougar_w.

<Is that a drone in your pants or are you just happy to see me?>

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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Next up, Executive Order banning full metal autos due to massive bloodshed caused by cars on nations highways. Soon to follow, .gov subsidies for Nerf car production.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Zap Powerz
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I know you post that in sarcastic jest, but we actually do live in a world that is that fucked up.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:41 | Link to Comment knukles
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(face plant in hands)

So undeniably true
Are we in Purgatory or Hell?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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You know perfect well where you are.

A brave new world.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Moon Pie
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I want a Nerf Car.  I want that.  Gubbmint will give it to me, right?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:15 | Link to Comment akak
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I'll settle for a choomwagon.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:46 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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I want a Nerf Car.  I want that.  Gubbmint will give it to me, right?

Not unless it's biodegradable and runs on corn subsidies.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:13 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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I think you are getting confused, cars are a mode of transport, guns are designed to kill. Deaths by automobile accidents are likely to be accidents, when someone points a gun at you and shoots the intention is murder. If you can't tell the difference please hand in your guns at the nearest police station.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment akak
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Deaths by automobile accidents are likely to be accidents, when someone points a gun at you and shoots the intention is murder.

Once again, proving how full of shit you really are.

In actual fact, the vast majority of times that guns are pointed at others, it is done in self-defense, NOT murder.  Or would you say that every time a policeman removes his gun from its holster in the courss of his duty he has automatically become a murderer?  Is the person defending his home and life from the meth-crazed armed intruder a "murderer" too?  Is the woman who removes the concealed gun from her purse to scare off the would-be rapist a "murderer" as well?

Fucking idiot.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Raymond K Hessel
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Sniff, Sniff.

 

I think I smell Cass Sunstein trolling around here...watch where you step.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:41 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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Actually killing someone spontaneously can be classed as murder, until an investigation is carried out to ascertain it was indeed self defence or not. A good idea would be to remove all guns and give the good citizens Tasers and or pepper spray, good self defence weapons. No one needs to then get killed. Death is so final after all;  there is good in everyone.

Why should someone die for having an off day?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:46 | Link to Comment ItchyBeard
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But what about disarming the real thugs? The ones who claim to be serving the public and need 365 x 24 x 7 protection in the form or gun toting body guards. Bloomberg for eg.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:50 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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So you're going to take back a country hijacked by a bankster-poli police state with tazers?  Wonder how it ends when activist from both ends of the political spectrum are put away and rumors arise of mass graves.  Pepper spray revolution anyone?

And the sheep say, 'It can't happen here...'

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 15:56 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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Really? We have been in this economic disaster for five years now. The revolution is a long time coming.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 18:30 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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This is rather relevant. Why are you hard asses not marching on Washington.

I will tell you why when the government tells you to hand in your weapons that is exactly what you will do. The ones who are too dumb will be fragged by a drone.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 01:24 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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I really don't think D.C. has anything to worry about, every gun owner is waiting for some other gun owner to start the so-called "revolution", therefore it won't ever happen.

People forget how the 1776 revolution started.  It started at the top with a government decree of independence from Britain. 

Next revolution would have to start at the bottom, grass roots level.  And they wouldn't be simply drivng out some foreign soldiers.  They would be going up against a huge firmly entrenched govt here, along with nearly half the population supporting that govt.

Those 3 factors make another revolution impossible.  (a) having to start at the grass roots level, (b) huge well entrenched govt, and (c) half the people supporting that govt.

GOs are focused on universal gun confiscation, whilch will never happen, yet they have no problem being taxed 10 times more than the colonists were when they started a revolution primarily over taxes.

So no, GOs will never do more than bitch.  Everybody in D.C. knows it. 

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