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So You Want To Retire? Five Disturbing Statistics About Retirement: An Infographic

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To all Americans in their twenties, thirties, forties, or even fifties, naively looking forward to their retirement, we have two words: "good luck."

One look at the flow chart below and we can't help but wonder: just how many Americans actually follow the "plan" of what they should do to prepare for retirement. A million? Two? Less? And how soon before the government decides it knows what's best for everyone in this particular touchy topic - because since the US welfare system is now hopelessly broken and unsustainable, then the retirement "option" for virtually everyone is a non-starter - and begins imposing behavioral mandates, not to mention taxes, to "steer" the population into the proper "avenues" and "channels"?


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Fri, 01/11/2013 - 19:54 | 3145878 Seasmoke
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does this count the public employee pigs who retire at 45 ????

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:00 | 3145895 James_Cole
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If you're in your 20s, retirement should be the last thing to worry about. Retire? How about start with imagining how you will possibly be employed past 50. That problem is a rubix cube no one wants to touch. 

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:03 | 3145901 Thomas
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By my math, there is well under 5% of the population who will retire at a level of income that they are accustomed to while working.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:13 | 3145934 Caged Monkey
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Just got off work at BAC.


What'd I miss?

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:32 | 3145941 whstlblwr
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I bet all the Jews will retire well off. Every one of them. Because the Jews rule the world.

Pay attention, it's not the oil barons and defense industry, it's the JEWS.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:42 | 3146015 Flakmeister
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I see you have been enjoying that complimentary audio book of Mein Kampf that came with your paid membership to Aryan Nation....

Let us know how it ends,,,

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:48 | 3146027 whstlblwr
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Yes, thank you. It opened my eyes. Unfortunately I was in the dumpster at the time and now I have an eye infection.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:47 | 3146183 Harlequin001
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It's unfortunate that you survived it at all but never mind...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 00:56 | 3146540 pods
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He's just threadjacking cause it seems that the past few articles (fleecebook and Lack Jew) about Jews they got beat up.

Tonight he is really gonzo.  Guess he looked up how to do bath salt anal?


Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:03 | 3146553 john39
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The quality of the hasbara trolling has been really disappointing lately. I wonder what the issue is? Come on bibi, up the pay a bit and recruit some talent. Americans are paying for it anyway.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:12 | 3146564 whstlblwr
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We can only wish to make such an impact and be so important. It was great to meet you BTW. Where's TRAV?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 03:55 | 3146709 AldousHuxley
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It is so bad out there that joos are screwing other joos

Remember Madoff and Jewish charities? Madoff said they are just as greedy as any other

Too many joos for the ecosystem .

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:51 | 3147060 whstlblwr
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I especially appreciate how when we see danger to the message, we all come back to the blog and reinforce each other and make sure message is on point. Comrade!

Jews, Jooooz, joos BAD
Oil Barons, defense contractor, military, Anglosaxons GOOD

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 15:08 | 3147329 phyuckyiu
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The economy must be bad, they are cutting the payout per Hasbara Troll post. Now he has to cut and paste shit.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 18:22 | 3147623 Cathartes Aura
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very interesting to note that your "voice" has changed rather significantly from last year at this time. . . when you were campaigning, y'know?

sticking with your storyline, is this your "wife" posting now?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:47 | 3147865 whstlblwr
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I appreciate the positive feedback. I've been working on my writing. Adding articles before nouns was tough.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:04 | 3151625 Cathartes Aura
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opinions are good, everyone should have their own.

as you were.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:01 | 3146943 ninja247
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Never new about Hasbara Trolls until now.

looks like a real thing.

There's got to be an algo to close these accounts when they come out as a troll.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:53 | 3147061 whstlblwr
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Totally agree ninja247, shut the Joos, Jews, joooooz out!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:10 | 3146562 whstlblwr
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I'm right here, you can talk to me. Too bad you feel it's a threadjack, I'm following instructions. Who got beat up? It's good to point out everyone with the last name that sounds Jew or even if they look Jew, it should be pointed out so more people will learn to blame the JEW instead of YOU KNOW WHO.

I know you visit many blogs all day. Pass along. Jew, or JOOOZ (as buckaroo says) = BAD

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:18 | 3146571 pods
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Pass what along exactly?

I don't give a shit if anyone is Jewish. I give a shit if people are colluding to extract money from a populace through a central banking cartel that has a stranglehold over almost the entire world.

Maybe if they didn't want such flak they outta GTFO of the business of making money from the blood, sweat and tears of everyone earning a paycheck?

Or do you see our modern banking system as a just and necessary function?

Oh wait, that's right, we need to vote or we don't get a say in how much of our labor is extracted before we ever see it to service fictional debt conjured up out of nothing?

You do know about that, do you not?

Exactly where do the "reserves" of the Federal Reserve come from?  Where did the 16 TRILLION dollar float come from to keep this evil ponzi scheme running?


Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:24 | 3146586 whstlblwr
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Oh okay, I hear you, you think it's better sometimes to say you don't care if it's Jew, maybe for political correctness. Then you include zinger, Jew makes money from blood sweat and tears of everyone else. So it's right, Jew takes for free, lazy good for nothing Jew, never thinks or works hard, just on the back of everyone else. I got you. Maybe I'll copy and paste this for facebook. All kinds of ways to spread hate and diversions away from YOU KNOW WHO. Thanks!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:28 | 3146591 pods
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Okay skippy, I am tired of thumping you. 

Who EXACTLY are you referring to as "YOU KNOW WHO" so I can go to bed?


Sat, 01/12/2013 - 08:55 | 3146836 SilverIsKing
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How does he reconcile the fact there are many poor Jews? Where's their cut of the graft? Did they not enroll in Jewish ponzi 101 at the local yeshiva?

Idiots abound, regardless or race or religion.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:06 | 3147070 whstlblwr
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If one of you guys can fill me in on how to hide the Jewish accomplishments in the US would be great. This is only partial list, maybe start from the top.

* Richard Axel, olfactory system, Nobel Prize (2004)
* Julius Axelrod, neurotransmitters, Nobel Prize (1970)
* David Baltimore, reverse transcriptase, Nobel Prize (1975)
* Baruj Benacerraf, immunologist, Nobel Prize (1980)
* M. A. Benjaminson, microbiologist and biotechnologist, in vitro meat pioneer
* Paul Berg, recombinant DNA, Nobel Prize (1980)
* Richard Bing, cardiologist
* Konrad Bloch, cholesterol, Nobel Prize (1959)
* Baruch Blumberg, hepatitis B vaccine, Nobel Prize (1976)
* Michael S. Brown, molecular geneticist, Nobel Prize (1985)
* Stanley Cohen, neurologist, Nobel Prize (1986)
* Stanley N. Cohen, genetic engineering
* Gerty Cori, biochemist, Nobel Prize (1947)
* Jared Diamond, evolutionary biologist & biogeographer
* Carl Djerassi, contraceptive pill
* Gerald Edelman, biologist, Nobel Prize (1972)
* Gertrude Elion, drug development, Nobel Prize (1988)
* Joseph Erlanger, physiologist, Nobel Prize (1945)
* Edmond H. Fischer, biochemist, Nobel Prize (1992) (Jewish father)
* Judah Folkman, cancer angiogenesis
* Casimir Funk, vitamins
* Robert F. Furchgott, pharmacologist, Nobel Prize (1998)
* Alfred G. Gilman, biochemist, Nobel Prize (1994)
* Joseph L. Goldstein, molecular geneticist, Nobel Prize (1985)
* Paul Greengard, neuroscientist, Nobel Prize (2000)
* Stephen Jay Gould, evolutionary biologist & writer
* Michael Heidelberger, immunochemist
* H. Robert Horvitz, biologist, Nobel Prize (2002)
* Jerome Horowitz, AZT
* Eric R. Kandel, neuroscientist, Nobel Prize (2000)
* Charles Kelman, cataract surgery
* Albert Kligman, dermatologist
* Arthur Kornberg, DNA replication, Nobel Prize (1959)
* Roger Kornberg, RNA transcription, Nobel Prize (2006) (son of Arthur Kornberg)
* Eric Lander, Human Genome Project
* Esther Lederberg, geneticist [1]
* Joshua Lederberg, molecular biologist, Nobel Prize (1958)
* Richard Lerner, therapeutic antibodies
* Rita Levi-Montalcini, neurologist, Nobel Prize (1986)
* Michael S. Levine, developmental biologist, discoverer of homeobox
* Richard Lewontin, evolutionary biologist
* Fritz Lipmann, coenzyme A, Nobel Prize (1953)
* Otto Loewi, acetylcholine, Nobel Prize (1936)
* Abraham Low, neuropsychiatrist, Recovery International founder
* Salvador Luria, bacterial evolution, Nobel Prize (1969)
* Lynn Margulis, Gaia theory
* Matthew Meselson, DNA replication
* A. L. Mestel, pediatric surgeon, separation of conjoined twins (1968)
* Otto Meyerhof, glycolysis, Nobel Prize (1922)
* Stanley Miller, Miller-Urey experiment
* Hermann Muller, geneticist, Nobel Prize (1946) (Jewish mother)
* Daniel Nathans, microbiologist, Nobel Prize (1978)
* Marshall Nirenberg, genetic code, Nobel Prize (1968)
* Gregory Pincus, contraceptive pill
* Karl Pribram, neurologist
* Stanley Prusiner, neurologist, Nobel Prize (1997)
* Martin Rodbell, biochemist, Nobel Prize (1994)
* Albert Sabin, oral polio vaccine
* Jonas Salk, polio vaccine
* Andrew V. Schally, endocrinologist, Nobel Prize (1977)
* Albert Schatz, streptomycin
* Béla Schick, diphtheria test
* Rudolf Schoenheimer, radioactive tracers
* Leo Sternbach, valium
* Howard Temin, reverse transcriptase, Nobel Prize (1975)
* Max Tishler, synthetic vitamins
* Harold Varmus, virologist, Nobel Prize (1989)
* George Wald, retina pigmentation, Nobel Prize (1967)
* Selman Waksman, streptomycin, Nobel Prize (1952)
* Charles Weissmann, interferon cloning
* Alexander S. Wiener hematologist and co-discoverer of the Rh factor
* Rosalyn Yalow, medical physicist, Nobel Prize (1977)
* Charles Yanofsky, geneticist
* Ralph Alpher, background radiation, nucleosynthesis
* John Bahcall, astrophysicist
* Hans Bethe, nuclear physicist, Nobel Prize (1967) (Jewish mother)
* Felix Bloch, nuclear physicist, Nobel Prize (1952) (naturalized citizen)
* David Bohm, quantum physicist, philosopher of science
* Gregory Breit, physicist
* Albert Einstein (German) theoretical physicist, Nobel Prize (1921) (naturalized citizen)
* Paul Sophus Epstein, theoretical physicist, quantum mechanics
* Herman Feshbach, nuclear physicist
* Richard P. Feynman, physicist, Nobel Prize (1965) (though he always refused to appear in lists such as this one and other lists or books that classified people by race [1][2][3])
* David Finkelstein, physicist
* James Franck, physicist, Nobel Prize (1925)
* Edward Fredkin, digital physicist
* Jerome Friedman, physicist, Nobel Prize (1990)
* Murray Gell-Mann, quarks, Nobel Prize (1969)
* Sheldon Glashow, physicist, Nobel Prize (1979)
* Donald A. Glaser, bubble chamber, Nobel Prize (1960)
* Roy Glauber, physicist, Nobel Prize (2005)
* Samuel Goudsmit, electron spin
* Brian Greene, string theorist
* Herbert Goldstein, Columbia physicist, author of standard textbook on classical mechanics.
* David Gross, string theorist, Nobel Prize (2004)
* Alan Guth, cosmic inflation
* Eugene Guth, polymer physics, nuclear physics, solid state physics
* Robert Herman, cosmology, background radiation, operations research
* Robert Hofstadter, physicist, Nobel Prize (1961)
* Robert Jastrow, physicist, astronomer, cosmologist
* Herman Kahn, nuclear physicist
* Theodore von Kármán, aeronautical engineer
* Daniel Kleppner, atomic research
* Walter Kohn, physicist, Nobel Prize (1998)
* Rudolf Kompfner, engineer and physicist
* Cornelius Lanczos, mathematical physicist [3]
* Rolf Landauer, physicist, information theory
* Leon M. Lederman, physicist, Nobel Prize (1988)
* David Morris Lee, superfluidity, Nobel Prize (1996)
* Fritz London, quantum chemistry
* Theodore Maiman, first operable laser
* Albert Michelson, speed of light, Nobel Prize (1907)
* Ben Roy Mottelson, physicist, Nobel Prize (1975)
* Frank Oppenheimer, nuclear physicist (brother of Robert)
* Robert Oppenheimer, nuclear physicist (brother of Frank)
* Douglas D. Osheroff, superfluidity, Nobel Prize (1996)
* Jeremiah P. Ostriker, astrophysicist
* Abraham Pais, historian of science
* Wolfgang Pauli, nuclear physicist, Nobel Prize (1945) (Jewish father, half-Jewish mother) (naturalized citizen)
* Arno Allan Penzias, background radiation, Nobel Prize (1978)
* Martin Lewis Perl, physicist, Nobel Prize (1995)
* H. David Politzer, physicist, Nobel Prize (2004)
* Martin Pope, physical chemist, Davy Medal (2006)
* Isidor Isaac Rabi, physicist, Nobel Prize (1944) (naturalized citizen)
* Simon Ramo, physicist, engineer
* Mark G. Raizen, physicist, quantum physics
* Sidney Redner, statistical physics
* Frederick Reines, neutrino experiment, Nobel Prize (1995)
* Burton Richter, physicist, Nobel Prize (1976)
* Carl Sagan, astronomer & science popularizer
* Arthur Schawlow, laser spectroscopy, Nobel Prize (1981) (Jewish father)
* Melvin Schwartz, physicist, Nobel Prize (1988)
* Julian Schwinger, quantum physicist, Nobel Prize (1965)
* Emilio G. Segrè, anti-proton, Nobel Prize (1959) (naturalized citizen)
* Lee Smolin, loop quantum gravity
* Alan Sokal, Sokal Affair
* H. Eugene Stanley, econophysics, phase transitions, critical phenomena
* Jack Steinberger, physicist, Nobel Prize (1988)
* Otto Stern, physicist, Nobel Prize (1943)
* Andrew Strominger, string theory
* Leonard Susskind, string theory (Jewish father)
* Leó Szilárd, nuclear physicist (naturalized citizen)
* Edward Teller, nuclear physicist
* Steven Weinberg, electroweak force, Nobel Prize (1979)
* Victor Frederick Weisskopf (1908–2002) physicist. During World War II, he worked at Los Alamos on the Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb, and later campaigned against the proliferation of nuclear weapons[4]
* Eugene Wigner, quantum physicist, Nobel Prize (1963)
* Edward Witten, mathematical physicist, Fields Medal (1990), founder of M-Theory, only physicist to win Fields medal, and currently the driving force behind theoretical/mathematical physics.
* George Zweig, quarks
* Larry Adler, composer [1]
* Samuel Adler (1928- ) American (German born) composer
* Milton Babbitt (1916-2011) composer [2]
* Irving Berlin (1888-1989) composer and lyricist
* Leonard Bernstein (1918-1990) composer and conductor
* Elmer Bernstein (1922-2004) composer
* Aaron Copland (1900-1990) composer and conductor
* Morton Feldman (1926-1987) composer
* Bob Dylan (1941- ) songwriter and lyricist, née Robert Zimmerman
* George Gershwin (1898-1937) composer and song writer
* Jerome Kern (1885-1945) composer and song writer
* Fritz Kreisler (1875 - 1962) violinist and composer, one of the most famous of his day[3]
* Alan Menken (1949-) composer
* Leo Ornstein (1893-2002) modernist composer and pianist
* Lou Reed (1942- ) song-writer, composer and guitarist, a member of the Velvet Underground
* Arnold Schoenberg (1874-1951) Naturalized American, Austrian-born composer
* Stephen Schwartz, (1948-), composer and lyricist
* Nicolas Slonimsky (1894-1995) Naturalized American, Russian-born composer, conductor and author
* Morton Subotnick (1933- ) composer of electronic and other music, husband to Joan LaBarbara
* Kurt Weill (1900-1950) Naturalized American, German-born composer and song-writer, who wrote orchestral music and "show music"
* John Zorn (1953- ) composer and saxophonist
* Dianna Agron (born 1986), actress and singer
* Jonathan Ahdout (born 1989), actor (House of Sand and Fog, 24)[19]
* Justin Baldoni (born 1984), actor (Everwood)[20]
* Amanda Bynes (born 1986), film actress and former show host on Nickelodeon (She's the Man)[21]
* Lizzy Caplan (born 1982), film/TV actress (Mean Girls, Cloverfield)[22]
* Lauren Cohan (born 1982), Film/Television actor (Supernatural)[23]
* Matt Cohen (born 1982), film/TV actor[24]
* John Francis Daley (born 1985), actor/director (Freaks and Geeks)[25]
* Kat Dennings (born 1986), film/TV actress[26][27]
* Zac Efron (born 1987; Jewish paternal grandfather), teen idol/actor (High School Musical, Hairspray)[28]
* Jesse Eisenberg (born 1983), film actor (The Squid and the Whale)[29]
* Sean Flynn-Amir (born 1989), TV actor (Zoey 101)[30]
* Jon Foster (born 1984), film/TV actor (Stay Alive)[31]
* Shayna Fox (born 1984), voice actress[32]
* Gideon Glick (born 1988), actor[33]
* Joseph Gordon-Levitt (born 1981), film/TV actor[34][35]
* Max Greenfield (born 1980), film/TV actor[36]
* Zena Grey (born 1988), film actress (Max Keeble's Big Move)[37]
* Jake Gyllenhaal (born 1980), film actor (Brokeback Mountain)[38]
* Jonah Hill (born 1983), film actor[39]
* Scarlett Johansson (born 1984), film actress;[40] [41]
* Ariana Jollee (born 1982), pornographic actress and pornographic film director[42]
* Mila Kunis (born 1983), TV actress (That '70s Show)[43]
* Shia LaBeouf (born 1986), TV/film actor (Even Stevens, Holes, Disturbia, Transformers)[44][45]
* Adam Lamberg (born 1984), actor (Lizzie McGuire)[46]
* Samm Levine (born 1982), film/TV actor[47]
* Margarita Levieva (born 1980), actress and professional gymnast
* William Levy (born 1980), actor and model
* Alex D. Linz (born 1989), actor (Home Alone 3, Max Keeble's Big Move)[48][49]
* Jessica Manley, actress (Anne Frank: The Whole Story).
* Eli Marienthal (born 1986), film actor (Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen)[50]
* Scott Mechlowicz (born 1981), film actor (EuroTrip, Mean Creek)[51]
* Sara Paxton (born 1988), actress (Darcy's Wild Life, Aquamarine)[52][53][54]
* Josh Peck (born 1986), actor (Drake & Josh)[55]
* Ashley Peldon (born 1984), film/TV actress[56]
* Courtney Peldon (born 1981), film/TV actress[57]
* Alisan Porter (born 1981), film and stage actress and singer[58]
* Natalie Portman (born 1981), Israeli-born film actor (V for Vendetta)[59]
* Laura Prepon (born 1980), film/TV actress (That '70s Show). .[60][61]
* Nikki Reed (born 1988), film actress/screenwriter (Thirteen)[62][63]
* Seth Rogen (born 1982), comedian, actor, writer
* Emmy Rossum (born 1986), actress, singer, and songwriter
* Jason Schwartzman (born 1980), actor and member of the band Phantom Planet
* Jason Segel (born 1980), film/TV actor[64]
* Jamie-Lynn Sigler (born 1981), TV actress (The Sopranos)[65]
* Sam Smith (born 1989), English actor (Wondrous Oblivion)[66]
* Marla Sokoloff (born 1980), film/TV actress (Big Day)[67]
* Shoshannah Stern (born 1980), TV actress[68][69]
* Lauren Storm (born 1987), TV actress (Flight 29 Down)[70][71]
* Khleo Thomas (born 1989), film actor (Holes)[72]
* Ashley Tisdale (born 1985), actress and singer (High School Musical)[73]
* Michelle Trachtenberg (born 1985), film/TV actress[74]
* Joseph Trohman (born 1984), musician (Fall Out Boy)Joe Trohman
* Raviv (Ricky) Ullman (born 1986), Israeli-born actor, teen idol (Phil of the Future)[75]
* Anneliese van der Pol (born 1984), Dutch/American actress (That's So Raven)[76]
* Mara Wilson (born 1987), film actress (Matilda)[77]
* Evan Rachel Wood (born 1987), film actress (Thirteen, The Upside of Anger)[62][63][78]
* Mario Yedidia (born 1984), former child actor (Warriors of Virtue)[79]
* Anton Yelchin (born 1989), Russian-born film/TV actor[80][81]
* Joey Zimmerman (born 1986), film/TV actor (Halloweentown)[82]
* Max Abramovitz, architect
* Dankmar Adler, architect and civil engineer, partner with Louis Sullivan in celebrated firm of Adler and Sullivan
* Gregory Ain, California architect; protégé of Richard Neutra
* Armand Phillip Bartos, architect and philanthropist, best known for the Shrine of the Book, co-designed with Frederick John Kiesler, housing the gift of the State of Israel of the Dead Sea Scrolls by his father-in-law Samuel Gottesman
* Walter Curt Behrendt, German modernist architect and expert on city planning and housing
* Edward Blum and George Blum, École des Beaux-Arts-trained brothers, of Alsatian-French decent, celebrated for their terra cotta embellished, Art Nouveau Manhattan apartment buildings, ended their career with two Art Deco works [1]. Their work was catalogued in Andrew S. Dolkart and Susan Tunick's 1993 book [2], George & Edward Blum: Texture and Design in New York Apartment House Architecture.
* Marcel Breuer, modernist architect and furniture designer
* Arnold Brunner, considered the first successful American born Jewish architect in the US [3] - and a city planner as well - he is the namesake of an annual award by the American Academy of Arts and Letters and a grant by the American Institute of Architects' New York chapter
* Alan Buchsbaum, high tech architect
* Gordon Bunshaft, modernist architect, partner in firm of Skidmore, Owings and Merrill
* Giorgio Cavaglieri, architectural preservationist and painter of gouaches
* Irwin Chanin, designer of Art Deco office towers and Broadway theaters, real estate developer and benefactor to his alma mater, The Cooper Union, which named its school of architecture in his honor.
* Serge Chermayeff, Grozny-born architect of Sephardic descent whose inter-war partnership with Erich Mendelsohn was lauded for bringing modernism to Britain; was also a writer, professor and co-founder of professional societies Stateside, and father of graphic designer Ivan Chermayeff
* Preston Scott Cohen, architect
* Richard Dattner, Bielsko, Poland-born recipient of the American Institute of Architects' Thomas Jefferson Award, its highest honor for public architecture
* Elizabeth Diller, partner with husband Ricardo Scofidio and Charles Renfro in Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the first architectural firm to win the so-called "genius award," a MacArthur Prize
* Dan Dworsky, architect
* John Eberson, Romanian-born architect best known for his atmospheric movie palaces
* Leopold Eidlitz, architect
* Peter Eisenman, architect
* Sidney Eisenshtat, architect best known for modernist synagogues including the House of the Book
* Sheldon Fox, architect, co-founder Kohn Pedersen Fox
* Ulrich Franzen, architect
* James Ingo Freed, architect
* M. Paul Friedberg, landscape architect
* Frank Gehry, architect, Pritzker Prize (1989)
* Ofra Gelman, Architect, RedRock Design, Las Vegas, Nevada. Hospitality.
* Nir Golan, architect
* Bertrand Goldberg, architect of Chicago's Marina City Center
* Percival Goodman, urban theorist and architect who designed over 50 synagogues; brother of sociologist/author Paul Goodman
* Ezra Gordon,[1] architect
* Alexander Gorlin, FAIA, Principal of Alexander Gorlin Architects in Manhattan, specializes in high-end residential, synagogues, master plans, and affordable and supportive housing.
* Arthur Gross, partner of Schwartz and Gross, designer of pre-WW2 Manhattan apartment buildings
* Victor Gruen, father of the shopping mall
* Lawrence Halprin, landscaper architect/educator
* Franklin D. Israel, architect
* Herman Jessor, the architect of more than 40,000, union-sponsored, publicly-assisted, cooperative housing units in New York City
* Albert Kahn, industrial architect
* Louis I. Kahn, influential, world-renown, modernist architect
* Frederick John Kiesler, Czernowitz-born theater designer, artist, theoretician and architect (see Bartos)
* A. Eugene Kohn, architect, co-founder Kohn Pedersen Fox
* Robert D. Kohn, one-time American Institute of Architects president, best known for his designs of Reform synagogues and buildings for the New York Society for Ethical Culture
* Reed Kroloff, architect/critic, former editor of Architecture, former dean of Tulane School of Architecture, director of Cranbrook Academy of Art
* Morris Lapidus, once maligned architect of "gorgeous", but now celebrated as exemplar of MiMo
* Paul László (1900-02-06 – 1993-03-27), Hungarian-born modern architect and interior designer whose work spanned eight decades and many countries.
* Edgar M. Lazarus (1868–1939), prominent in the Portland, Oregon area for more than 45 years, best known as the architect of the Vista House[2]
* Daniel Libeskind, architect
* John Maksai, architect
* Richard Meier, architect, Pritzker Prize (1984)
* Erich Mendelsohn, architect, co-founder of the German architectural collaborative Der Ring, later practiced in Mandatory Palestine before settling in the US in 1941
* Robert Moses, this "master builder" was the subject of Robert Caro's Pulitzer Prize-winning biography, The Power Broker
* Eric Owen Moss, architect
* Barbara A. Nadel [4], an architect specialized in health care and justice facilities, much in demand for her expertise on design for public and institutional building security [5]
* Richard Neutra, modernist architect
* James Polshek, architect
* Emery Roth, apprentice to Daniel Burnham and architect of classic Jazz Age New York apartment buildings and hotels, who founded firm known as the "builder's architects"
* Moshe Safdie, architect
* Taal Safdie, architect
* Stanley Saitowitz, architect and emeritus architecture professor at UC Berkeley [6]
* Lawrence Scarpa, architect
* Rudolph Schindler, Austrian-born modernist architect known for his private houses in LA.
* Denise Scott Brown, architect, city planner and partner/spouse of architect Robert Venturi
* Martha Schwartz, landscape architect
* Simon I. Schwartz, partner of Schwartz and Gross, designer of pre-WW2 Manhattan apartment buildings
* Raphael Soriano Rhodes-born architect/educator of Sephardi descent whose work epitomized Mid-Century modern
* Michael Sorkin, architectural theorist and academic with non-profit practice, currently directs the graduate program in urban design at CCNY
* Clarence Stein, urban planner, architect and writer, best known for advancing the garden city movement in the US, as evinced by his own collaborations with architect Henry Wright, Sunnyside Gardens and Radburn
* Robert A. M. Stern, architect
* Edgar Tafel, architect; Frank Lloyd Wright protégé
* Stanley Tigerman, architect
* Joseph Urban, architect, set designer[7] and book illustrator
* Paul Zucker, architect/city planner in Berlin who joined the University in Exile at the New School for Social Research
* Neal Adams, comic book artist[2]
* Ralph Bakshi, animator (Fritz the Cat, Lord of the Rings)[3][4]
* Brian Michael Bendis, comics book writer[5]
* Dave Berg, cartoonist[1]
* Sol Brodsky, comic book artist and Marvel Comics executive
* Al Capp, cartoonist (Li'l Abner)[6][7]
* Roz Chast, cartoonist (New Yorker)[8]
* Howard Chaykin, comic book writer[9]
* Daniel Clowes, alternative comics writer (Ghost World)[10]
* Gene Colan, comic book artist (Daredevil)[11]
* Sophie Crumb, alternative comics artist (Jewish mother, see below)
* Peter David, comics writer & "writer of stuff"[12]
* Kim Deitch, comics artist
* Will Elder, cartoonist (MAD Magazine)
* Will Eisner, comics artist (The Spirit)[6][13]
* Miriam Engelberg, comics writer (Cancer Made Me a Shallower Person)
* Jules Feiffer, cartoonist[14]
* Lyonel Feininger, cartoonist (Kin-der-Kids) [13]
* Al Feldstein, cartoonist (MAD Magazine)
* Bill Finger, comics artist (Batman)
* Dave Fleischer, animator; brother of Max Fleischer
* Max Fleischer, animator (Popeye, Betty Boop); father of director Richard Fleischer
* Friz Freleng, animator (Looney Tunes)
* Max Gaines, founder of EC Comics, pioneering figure in the creation of the modern comic book[1]
* William Gaines, comics artist and MAD founder[1]
* Leo Garel, cartoonist for Playboy and The New Yorker
* Rube Goldberg, cartoonist[6][15]
* Steve Greenberg, editorial cartoonist
* Milt Gross, Gross Exaggerations[13]
* Allan Heinberg, comic book writer (Young Avengers)[16]
* Herblock, cartoonist (three Pulitzer Prizes)[17]
* Harry Hershfield, cartoonist (Abie the Agent, Desperate Desmond)[18]
* Al Hirschfeld, caricaturist[19]
* Al Jaffee, cartoonist (MAD Magazine)[15]
* Bob Kane, comics artist (Batman)[13]
* Gil Kane, comics artist (Green Lantern)[20][21]
* Jack Kirby, comics artist (Captain America, Hulk)[22]
* Neil Kleid, cartoonist, graphic designer[13]
* Aline Kominsky-Crumb, cartoonist (Dirty Laundry)[23]
* Adam Kubert, comics artist[13]
* Andy Kubert, comics artist
* Joe Kubert, comics artist[13]
* Harvey Kurtzman, comics artist and MAD editor[24]
* Mell Lazarus, cartoonist (Momma, Miss Peach)[25][26][27]
* Stan Lee, comics writer (co-creator of Spider-Man, creator of X-Men, The Hulk, Fantastic Four)[22]
* Jeph Loeb, comics writer (Batman: The Long Halloween)
* Robert Mankoff[8]
* Clifford Meth, comics writer and editor (The Futurians)
* Josh Neufeld, Xeric Award-winning cartoonist (A.D.: New Orleans After the Deluge)
* Martin Nodell, comics artist (Green Lantern)[28]
* Paul Palnik, cartoonist, writer, (The God of Cartoons)
* Harvey Pekar, comix writer (American Splendor)[29]
* Rachel Pollack, comic book writer (Doom Patrol) see also "Authors"
* Trina Robbins, comix writer[24]
* Julius Schwartz, comic book and magazine editor
* Joe Shuster, comics artist (Superman)[30]
* Jerome Siegel, comics artist (Superman)[30]
* Joe Simon, comics artist (Captain America)
* Art Spiegelman, comics writer (Maus)[6][31]
* William Steig, cartoonist & children's writer
* Saul Steinberg, cartoonist & illustrator
* Hilda Terry, cartoonist (Teena)
* Lauren Weinstein, comic book artist
* Mort Weisinger, comic book and magazine editor
* Morris Weiss, comic book and comic strip artist (Margie)
* Judd Winick, comics writer & artist (Pedro & Me, Green Lantern)
* Marv Wolfman, comic book writer
* Zeke Zekley, cartoonist on Bringing up Father and several others
* Hal Abelson, artificial intelligence
* Len Adleman, RSA cryptography, DNA computing, Turing Award (2002)
* Paul Baran, packet switching
* Dan Bernstein, cryptologist (unconfirmed)
* Manuel Blum, computational complexity, Turing Award (1995)
* Dan Bricklin, creator of the original spreadsheet
* Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google
* Peter Elias, information theory
* Robert Fano, information theory
* Edward Feigenbaum, artificial intelligence, Turing Award (1994)
* William F. Friedman, cryptologist
* David Gelernter, parallel computation, Unabomber victim
* Herbert Gelernter, artificial intelligence.
* Seymour Ginsburg, formal language theory
* Adele Goldberg, Smalltalk design team
* Herman & Adele Goldstine, developers of ENIAC
* Shafi Goldwasser, cryptographer
* Philip Greenspun, web applications
* Martin Hellman, public key cryptography
* Douglas Hofstadter, academic & author (half Jewish)
* Bob Kahn, TCP/IP
* Richard Karp, computational complexity, Turing Award (1985)
* John Kemeny, BASIC
* Leonard Kleinrock, packet switching
* Joseph Kruskal, Kruskal's algorithm
* Solomon Kullback, cryptographer
* Raymond Kurzweil, OCR, speech recognition
* Jaron Lanier, virtual reality
* Leonid Levin, computational complexity
* Herman Lukoff, helped develop ENIAC and UNIVAC
* John McCarthy, artificial intelligence, LISP programming language, Turing Award (1971)
* Marvin Minsky, artificial intelligence, neural nets, Turing Award (1969)
* John von Neumann, computer scientist, mathematician & economist
* Seymour Papert, LOGO
* Judea Pearl, Bayesian networks
* Ken Perlin, fractal noise
* Alan J. Perlis, compilers, Turing Award (1966)
* Lawrence Rabiner, digital signal processing
* Frank Rosenblatt, perceptrons
* Azriel Rosenfeld, image analysis
* Bruce Schneier, cryptographer
* Adi Shamir, cryptographer
* Herbert A. Simon, cognitive & computer scientist, Turing Award (1975)
* Abraham Sinkov, cryptanalyst
* Daniel Sleator, splay trees (Jewish mother)
* Gustave Solomon, error correction
* Ray Solomonoff, algorithmic information theory
* Richard Stallman, GNU, FSF
* Gerald Jay Sussman, Scheme
* Eric Tobis, optimized Viterbi error correction algorithms
* Peter J. Weinberger, awk
* Joseph Weizenbaum, ELIZA, artificial intelligence critic
* Norbert Wiener, cybernetics
* Terry Winograd, SHRDLU
* Jacob Wolfowitz, information theory
* Lotfi Zadeh, fuzzy logic (Jewish mother, Muslim father)
* Mark Zuckerberg, creator of Facebook

[edit] See also

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:44 | 3147148 BooMushroom
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Seriously, this is what hyperlinks are for.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:02 | 3147191 Sean7k
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Over one hundred years and this is all you have? Over half aren't even impressive contributions. Cartoonists? Actors? Architects? Looks like we would have been just fine without all of them. The ones with products we wanted, we could have bought them.

Now, what are you going to do about the ones that instigated world wars, the zionists that supported Stalin, Hitler, and central banking? How does this measley list make up for the horror from the actions of all the others? 

Every race has made significant contributions to science and industry. What makes you think jews are special in this regard? Compared to the tragedy and death they have created? 

Let them go back to Israel and stay there. If they're so great, maybe they should help each other and leave the rest of the world alone. You're so impressed with yourselves, I'm surprised you haven't figured this out already.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:25 | 3147251 whstlblwr
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See what you're doing here. Pretty good, but seems there are peace activists. Looks like the Jew is just like everyone else a cross section of America, but I like the talking points, I'll use it.

AIDS activists

* Elizabeth Glaser, founder of the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation
* Larry Kramer, co-founder of GMHC
* Mary Fisher

[edit] Anti-corporate activists

* Judi Bari, environmentalist (Jewish mother)
* Robert "Gypsy Boots" Bootzin, Health food and fitness guru
* Laurie David, environmental activist
* Rob Reiner, actor, director, producer, writer and anti-tobacco activist; son of Carl Reiner[1]
* Henry Spira, animal rights activist

[edit] Anti-racist

* Kivie Kaplan, head of the NAACP
* Winona LaDuke, Native American activist & environmentalist (Jewish mother)
* Stanley Levison, Communist Party USA member, advisor to Martin Luther King
* Abel Meeropol, composer of anti-lynching song Strange Fruit
* Michael Schwerner & Andrew Goodman, CORE activists, KKK victims
* Joel & Arthur Spingarn, early NAACP leaders
* Tim Wise, anti-racism activist

[edit] Anti-war

* Leslie Cagan, founder of United for Peace and Justice
* Daniel Ellsberg, leaked the Pentagon Papers
* Allen Ginsberg, poet and Pentagon-levitator
* Allard K. Lowenstein, politician and anti-Vietnam war leader
* Bernard Lown, co-founder of International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, Nobel Peace Prize (1985)
* Murray N. Rothbard, writer

[edit] Progressive

* Elmer Berger, Reform rabbi, deceased
* Noam Chomsky, linguist, historian and author
* Norman Finkelstein, former professor, (denied most recent tenure at DePaul University)
* Fred Newman, founder of International Workers Party
* Adam Shapiro, member of International Solidarity Movement
* Anna Baltzer, author and public speaker.

[edit] Civil liberties

* Felix Frankfurter, Supreme Court Justice, helped found the American Civil Liberties Union
* Nadine Strossen, head of ACLU (father half Jewish holocaust survivor)

[edit] Conservatives and neoconservatives

* Midge Decter, writer
* David Horowitz, writer, activist, commentator
* Irving Kristol, founder of American Neoconservatism.
* William Kristol, editor, writer
* Rabbi Daniel Lapin, founder of Toward Tradition
* Mark Levin, radio commentator and writer
* Jay Lovestone, AFL-CIO cold warrior; earlier, chairman of Communist Party USA ousted on orders from Joseph Stalin
* John Podhoretz, writer and commentator
* Norman Podhoretz, writer

[edit] Counterculture

* Abbie Hoffman, co-founder of the Youth International Party (Yippies)
* Ed Rosenthal, cannabis activist
* Jerry Rubin, co-founder of the Yippie movement
* A.J. Weberman, Yippie activist, author

[edit] Electronic rights activists

* Mitch Kapor, co-founder of Electronic Frontier Foundation
* Bruce Perens, open source advocate, co-founder of Software in the Public Interest
* Richard Stallman, founder of Free Software Foundation
* Jonathan Tasini, National Writers Union leader, fighter for electronic rights for authors

[edit] Feminism and gay rights

* Bella Abzug, feminist politician, deceased
* Gloria Allred (1941–) lawyer and radio talk show host[2]
* Bettina Aptheker (1944–) lesbian activist, author, and educator[3]
* Andrea Dworkin, feminist writer
* Susan Faludi, feminist writer
* Leslie Feinberg, transgender activist & author
* Clara Fraser, founder of Radical Women and the Freedom Socialist Party [4]
* Betty Friedan, co-founder & first president of NOW
* Franklin E. Kameny, gay rights leader[5]
* Harvey Milk, murdered gay rights activist and openly gay politician
* Robin Morgan, editor of Ms. Magazine
* Ernestine Rose, feminist
* Gloria Steinem, founder of Ms. Magazine (Jewish father)
* Rebecca Walker (1969–) feminist writer[6]
* Naomi Wolf, feminist writer
* Evan Wolfson, gay marriage activist

[edit] Cults

* Maurice Davis, Rabbi, testified to joint-Congressional panel in 1976
* Steven Hassan, exit counselor author, Combatting Cult Mind Control
* Rick Ross, consultant on cults

[edit] Gun rights advocacy

* Sandra Froman — President of the National Rifle Association (NRA), second female president and first Jewish president[7]

[edit] Immigration reform

* Kinky Friedman, country singer, 2006 candidate for Governor of Texas

[edit] Leaders of Jewish communal organizations

* Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the Lubavitcher Rebbe
* Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League

[edit] Liberal and left-wing activists (miscellaneous)

* Michael Albert, co-founder of Z Magazine
* Saul Alinsky, community organizer
* Ben Cohen, founder of TrueMajority
* Jeff Cohen, founder of FAIR
* John Garfield, blacklisted actor, left-liberal activist
* William Kunstler, civil rights lawyer
* Al Lewis, actor, Green Party candidate, anti-prison and anti-drug war activist
* Eli Pariser, campaigns director of
* George Soros, founder of Open Society Institute
* Barbra Streisand, entertainer, liberal activist and fundraiser

[edit] Jewish Defense

* Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defense League, deceased
* Mordechai Levy, founder and chairman of the Jewish Defense Organization,
* David Marcus ("Mickey" Marcus), U.S. Army Colonel, hero of Israeli War of Independence
* Avi Weiss, Orthodox rabbi, leader of Free Soviet Jewry movement

[edit] Nazi hunters and Holocaust educators

* Marvin Hier, Orthodox rabbi, founder and dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center
* Eli Rosenbaum, director of the Department of Justice's Office of Special Investigations since 1995; Nazi hunter since early 1980s

[edit] Pro-life

* Nat Hentoff, author and columnist

[edit] Rights of Ethiopian Jews

* Graenum Berger, founder of American Association for Ethiopian Jews

[edit] Socialists, anarchists and communists (historical)

* Alexander Berkman, anarchist leader
* Daniel De Leon, revolutionary socialist leader
* Emma Goldman, anarchist leader
* Murray N. Rothbard, anarchist leader
* Charles Ruthenberg, early leader of the Communist Party USA
* Max Shachtman, democratic socialist leader and theorist

[edit] Weather Underground and its offshoots

* Kathy Boudin, Weather Underground member, leader
* David Gilbert, Weather Underground member, leader
* Terry Robbins, Weather Underground member and bomb maker (died in explosion of his own bomb)
* Bernardine Dohrn, Weather Underground, member, and leader of Days of Rage
* Mark Rudd, Students for a Democratic Society leader during 1968 Columbia University strike; later a Weather Underground member and leader
* Laura Whitehorn, Weather Underground, member and leader

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 15:03 | 3147317 Sean7k
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Nice list, means absolutely nothing, nor does it answer my questions. 

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3151233 aubreyfarmer
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And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical. Winston Churchill International Jews.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:37 | 3147457 Random
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Cool story brah! Btw, butt hurt much?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 06:22 | 3146766 bunnyswanson
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Jewish Grandmother talks of monkey business (6 min)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:36 | 3147126 Whiner
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My only complaint against most Jews is that they are ardent gun control-confiscation supporters. Did The German people have guns to stop the genocide of their neighbors? A gun-less neighbor is quite docile.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:54 | 3147299 whstlblwr
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Hear you, but guess not all.

[edit] Gun rights advocacy

* Sandra Froman — President of the National Rifle Association (NRA), second female president and first Jewish president[7]

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 07:22 | 3148531 e_goldstein
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In the long run, if you stereotype, that's gonna kick you in the ass. 

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:21 | 3146101 BanjoDoug
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well from the scorecard on whstlblwr above stmt, either a lot of jews read this OR TOO many people don't understand how wicked the edomite-zionists-jews really are...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:31 | 3146131 whstlblwr
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Shush, I tell you the Jews are everywhere. You have to be very careful. Whatever you do don't turn on your TV because they can SEE you. I'm starting to panic. I want to get back home to Belgium, where men know how to be men. Where the Anglosaxon lives.

"A friend told me that he had heard that Monica was actually a sex-changed man. I could not believe it. My son heard similar rumours," he said.

"Even during sex, I never noticed anything," he said.

"I pushed her against the wall and said: Now I know the truth. Are you a man? She then announced that she was born as a boy and that she had been operated on. She was now a woman, and so she did not need to tell me about her past as a man. My world collapsed. That evening came to blows. The police came."

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:24 | 3146290 john39
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Trolling from tel aviv... Never see that on the net.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:36 | 3146313 whstlblwr
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Johnny baby, I'm right here, man. Freaking me out dude. All these Jews. You know what I mean?

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:41 | 3146323 Blazed
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Indeed, typical Hasbarat behavior.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 23:37 | 3146328 whstlblwr
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Blazed, tell me what to do, they're watching me, dude. You seem like you know so much. Make the Jews stop watching me.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 00:31 | 3146499 Buckaroo Banzai
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PLEASE spell it's spelled JOOOOOZ.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 00:41 | 3146503 whstlblwr
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Thanks so much Buckaroo, I don't want to make mistakes. It feels so good to HATE, know what I mean?

I read from memo that it's okay to say Jew? Maybe you can help me figure out how to get them off my TV.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 04:22 | 3146722 TPTB_r_TBTF
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If you turn the TV off,

then the Jews disappear.


Have you been taking your meds?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:15 | 3147096 whstlblwr
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They just want you think that, no still there. Even tried to unplug.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:00 | 3146627 Parrotile
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An acquaintance of the Bank Guy from Belgium perhaps?

He often has "interesting views" on life and everything else.

Pity his views on Britain are, shall we say, a little uninformed. . . . .

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:50 | 3146188 Harlequin001
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either that or we're all a bit fed up of dick heads trying to blame everything and anything on Jews...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:01 | 3146221 John_Coltrane
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Like Pol Pot I blame everything on people who wear glasses.  Ooohs, I wear reading glasses.  I guess most of my problems are likely due to me.  Yep, I'm sure of it.  I'm guessing that's true for the vast majority of people.  However, then solving said problems requires personal responsilibiity-not scapegoating.  Which is why there are so few true libertarians.

"If you want to identify the source of a problem, first look in the mirror"   (Doesn't apply to Nancy Pelosi as the mirror would break) 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 00:42 | 3146520 Anusocracy
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Blame it on the psychopaths.

Every group has their fair share.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 00:46 | 3146527 whstlblwr
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I'm insulted, this is coordinated, strategic. Give me a break. We spend all this money to divert attention from oil prices, drones, and wars and you call it psychopaths.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:53 | 3151176 aubreyfarmer
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107). "The Jew continues to monopolize money, and he loosens or strangles the throat of the state with the loosening or strengthening of his purse strings...He has empowered himself with the engines of the press, which he uses to batter at the foundations of society. He is at the bottom of...every enterprise that will demolish first of all thrones, afterwards the altar, afterwards civil law." (Hungarian composer Franz Liszt (1811-1886) in Die Israeliten.)

It is the International Jew money lenders that are the problem. They will murder Jew and Gentile alike and have done so many times in the past. There is nothing comparable to the truth. URL 436quotesbyandaboutjews The founder of Ford Motor Co. Henry Ford was aware of their nefarious activities and published The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion in his newspaper The Dearborn Independent.
Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:36 | 3146305 Henry Hub
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***I bet all the Jews will retire well off. Every one of them***

The truth is the average middle class Jew is just as screwed as the average middle class gentile.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:48 | 3146321 whstlblwr
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What the hell you talking about, didn't you get the memo:

Jews BAD

Oil barons and defense contractor GOOD

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 23:21 | 3146388 nmewn
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Your slip is showing.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 23:27 | 3146402 bigkahuna
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Jewish people are the same as the rest of us blokes. I believe you are referring to zionists. The zionists are the same lot of assholes as the kkk, the black panthers, la raza and all of the other myriad race whackos. Above all else, these groups are all another bunch of useful idiots for the statist. 

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 23:35 | 3146418 whstlblwr
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Zionist = Jew, keep it straight. It's important to have the message right. The Jews have everything we want, they take it for free, they look ugly, and no one likes them. On the other hand the Anglo Saxon is a race to be proud of. True, sometimes we're married for 19 years to a woman and discover it's a man, but no matter.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:05 | 3146554 pods
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Dude, might want to avoid the bath salt enema.

People cannot have legitimate concerns about how powerful a small group of people seem to be?

Or the fact that almost every single politician has to kiss ass to several Jewish lobby groups?

Or how we have to have a reflexive positive response when the word Israel is uttered, lest we be called the "anti-semite?"

Or the fact that almost every single major media outlet is run by a Jew?,0,4676183.column

(this was written by a Jew, who called himself a Jew)

Maybe you are just a Jew like ALL the Jews I have known; regular people going about their business?

Pissed that you didn't get called up to the big time?



Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:18 | 3146572 whstlblwr
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I hear you. Fantastic talking points. I won't bring up the oil lobby groups who have 100 times more money or people, or why they like to put blame on Israel (reserve currency) *cough* or who really runs the people who run the media. It's good you keep on point. YOU KNOW WHO will be glad the message is spreading. Hope you don't mind if I copy and paste, it's just that good.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:25 | 3146587 pods
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Oil lobby groups have one hundred times the money of central bankers?

That would mean, since the FED somehow loaned out 16 trillion during the lockup in 08 that they have, at their disposal, 1.6 quadrillion in funds, give or take?

Now where exactly did that "money" come from?

Yep, loaned out fractionally, with interest attached.


Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:35 | 3146601 whstlblwr
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Wait, you're trying to play it cool? Am I giving too much away. Shush, all Central Bankers are not Jews. I gottcha, tell everyone they are. Tell them it's a coincidence that Central Banking benefits the oil company and defense industry. Shush.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:38 | 3146607 pods
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The oil and offense industry are minor players. They keep the debt expanding exponentially so it does not collapse.

Oil is needed, offense industry is there to keep oil producers accepting dollars for oil.



Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:46 | 3146613 whstlblwr
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Hear you, oil and military spending and defense are minor. Shush.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:36 | 3148022 MeelionDollerBogus
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Zionist != JEW

Now the record is straight -

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:04 | 3146629 Parrotile
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The truth is EVERYBODY except the particularly well connected is screwed.

And in this category of screwed I include many "minor millionaires" - the ones who actually WORKED for their millions (and in doing so provided real, valuable employment for many).

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 03:30 | 3146696 Barmaher
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The Jews ascended tthrough Judah.  God gave them the right to rule.  From them came David whos everlasting throne is someplace in London.  Also from them came Jesus who they failed to recognize as God. 


God gave the birthright to Joseph.  The name of Israel.  The fat of the land, the riches, the multitude of nations and people.  Everything but the kingship.  We are Joseph.  We are Israel.  Together with the (British) Isles we perfectly represent the culmination of the promises God made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.  Too bad our leaders took advantage of a good thing and produced the mess we find ourselves in today.  Don't blame the Jews.  Asshole.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 10:54 | 3146937 john39
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hopelessly confused.   the true God is not interested in a few humans ruling others...  that would be someone else, tyring to pose as God, fooling most, but not all.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:17 | 3147098 whstlblwr
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Now I like that strategy, pretend to be in favor of Jew, but make them sound crazy. Nice one.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 18:37 | 3147646 pods
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You should like that strategy, you were employing that one last night to try and besmirch anyone who had a question about Jews.
Stil got your "I voted" sticker?


Sat, 01/12/2013 - 04:40 | 3146726 OldPhart
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Oh, fer fuck sakes!  I click a link on Zero Hedge and fall into a KKK/Nazi black hole.  Jew, juice, jooooz, jewels...Jesus Christ! My buddy hasn't even burnt his hannuka bush yet.

After reading all this drivel I'm compeled to wash my eyes out with maneschevit wine and invite my jewish friend and my cock sucking arab neighbor over for soup and sandwich, a nice BLT with bean and bacon soup, just to make silent amends.

Y'all are pricks.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:36 | 3147271 e_goldstein
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Ever since they took out the algebra captcha a Stormfront has been rolling in.


My favorite Jewish lobby:

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 23:00 | 3148076 quartshort
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mmmmmm..... BACON!

This should be the standard response to such blather.

Or perhaps, "Bacon, BITCHEZ"?

Greed transcends race, sex and religon. IT IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY DESTROYER. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 09:27 | 3146858 JungleJim
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Let's all become Jews !!! Then we can all vote for "liberals" and save the world ...



Shalom all ...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 10:31 | 3146911 Agstacker
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Because there has NEVER been a Gentile that has retired well off...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:33 | 3148017 MeelionDollerBogus
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I guarantee you the crooked Jewish banking system will rip off tons of Jewish non-bankers in the Jewish state of Israel.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:24 | 3145969 q99x2
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Work at BAC. Do not pass Go. Do Not Collect $200. Start over.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:40 | 3146004 Caged Monkey
Mon, 01/14/2013 - 00:18 | 3149927 Mike Cowan
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That is so funny. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 09:24 | 3146851 Stock Tips Inve...
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The population increasingly living longer. The government has less money to pay retirees. So we can only worry, ourselves for our retirement. I think there are three factors that are very important: 1. - Saving for our retirement as early as possible. 2. - We will have to work longer. 3. - We must invest those savings appropriately. Invest in diversified funds to earn 3% will not be enough.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:48 | 3147158 BooMushroom
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True. The trick is to to those three in an environment where the government can and may confiscate or devalue your savings with the stroke of a pen or the click of a keyboard. Or a big 'ol squeeze of the Platinum mint.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:21 | 3145938 Harbanger
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I see the list says people in there 30's should consider buying a house.  I actually agree,  interest is low and your only throwing away your money paying for rent.  The mistake most people make is to buy a 1 family. That's a luxury.  2-3 family is the way to go.  You will essentially be living for free while they pay for your mortgage, and you'll probably even be making some extra money after expenses.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:01 | 3146045 TheObsoleteMan
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You sound as if you are a realtor. One of the biggest lies ever told is:"With rent, you are throwing your money away". Actually, for some, it is far better than "owning". Renting affords flexibility that "owning" can't match. In the past, purchasing had benefits of appreciating price over renting. Those days in most areas are gone. Home prices are now stagnant, have been for several years now, and will remain so for years to come. Who wants to buy into a nice neighborhood, that in a few short years will be transformed into a third world hell hole? I have seen this happen in the five states I visit on a regular basis. Then your trapped. If you rent, you just don't sign another lease and move on. The only home I would recommend buying would be in the sticks somewhere with a small local government to support. Most of these areas are not populated by dependent types either. A "home owner" will not see a return on their investment unless they bought twenty years ago. When you figure in your property taxes, upkeep costs, interest on principal, insurance and assessments, one doesn't even come close to recouping the monies paid out. In many states, rent is tax deductible {a percentage}. In today's environment, renting makes more sense than ever.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:06 | 3146070 TraderTimm
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TheObsoleteMan - precisely. Please, someone tell me how paying all the associated costs of running a house in addition to property taxes make it worth it. You get to keep more shit in the same four walls? Harder to move when morons move in next door and have all-night keggers?

The future seems to be pointing to mobility, not under lock and key of your local municipality. The way things are going, I'd say the renter has an easier time of it - getting out of dodge with few possessions when shit hits the fan.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:52 | 3146196 Harlequin001
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There was a time when you had to work and produce something to get rich. Now you just have to buy a house and invest in the stock market.

Reality will be hard for most when it eventually arrives...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:16 | 3146266 francis_sawyer
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generalizations... [unless you have arable land ~ with several other contingencies applied]...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:46 | 3146333 Lukacko
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I think the renting strategy is fine for some areas or for some people, but has just as many problems as buying.  There are neighborhoods and cities out there where you can buy a nice house at a reasonable price.  Many are in the south. As long as you aren't buying something overpriced in any top major cities. And who wants to live or rent in shitholes like DC or NYC? Renting blows.  Annoying neighbors everywhere. Car alarms going off at odd hours. Dog shit everywhere.


All I see is a bunch of people bitching for making bad decisions to live in overpriced neighborhoods, communities within tyrannical state and local governments (Cali, Illinois, NYC), in homes paid for with average wage earning skills at best.  Are you serious about packing up and leaving every so often?  Are you a migrant farm worker?  Well no shit owning is too difficult for you. The planet is covered in internet cable, you can do a job from anywhere these days.  Do you not think your landlords are getting the full cost of your apartment/rental out of you in rent + costs + tax and profit?  Is it not common knowledge that companies pass increased costs of regulation and whatever else onto the consumer? Do a little research, find a place with a reasonable cost of living, and move once instead of every season. Use those vast skills you have to find a job making a good salary, maybe build a reputation in that area after a handful of years, get promoted or promote yourself with a new job, keep control of your finances and make prudent decisions on what you spend.  Oh don't buy a piece of shit house with a leaky water heater and 1960's wiring for $400k.


And if you want to move in a few years, sell your house! If you did the research using that big brain of yours then it will have been reasonably priced, and at absolute worst retained its value.



Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:37 | 3146475 TheObsoleteMan
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You missed the point. In case you haven't noticed, the landscape has changed dramatically over the last few years. The future trends look even worse. There is a increasingly shrinking pool of qualified buyers for homes in the $250k range. This will accelerate going forward as unemployment rises, and salaries stagnate. I wasn't meaning someone should rent in a ghetto, as you implied. Actually, there are many affordable rental opportunities available from non-traditional sources. When I retired to Florida, I first rented from a man who lived in Indiana. His parents had died, and he wanted to keep their house for himself, but he was several years away from retirement yet. I got the place for the property taxes, utilities and HOA fees. He essentially didn't want any bills from a house he wasn't living in. I was paying under $600 a month for a house that would have appraised at the time for $300k {this was in 1999}. I lived there until 2002 when I bought a house, right at the beginning of the housing bubble. I sold it in 2006 {just in time}. I have since rented because I see no end in sight to the housing debacle. I am a widower, so my situation is different from most. I am currently in another sweetheart deal. There are plenty of deals right now in the rent world for someone who is able to look for them. And no, I am far from being a migrant worker. But I don't see people living in the same neighborhoods as long as they once did either.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:15 | 3146641 Harlequin001
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'And if you want to move in a few years, sell your house!' - But that's the point isn't it?

It's going to be a little difficult in a few years when interest rates pop and no one can afford a mortgage. What happens to the mortgage market then? Does that not explain the desperation of the CB's in trying to lower rates and gun the property markets? Who will buy?

Anyone with any sense is already out and waiting. Me, I just look for the next best deal from property owners desperate to rent and keep my assets in gold.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 00:33 | 3146502 Seer
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"The future seems to be pointing to mobility"

No, perhaps what you really mean to say is "flexibility?"

Mobility requires energy.  And if you haven't noticed...  Well, mobility is fine if you're a wanderer, nothing wrong with that.

I have Ag land, this drastically cuts my property taxes: I DO produce and sell farm products, so I AM living up to my end of the deal; my goal, however, wasn't to escape paying taxes, it was to FARM.  It affords me some pretty decent buffer space, although my neighbors ARE great.  Also have trees for generating my home heating.

One either fights or flees.  If it's "home" then a person values their (true) "home" and fights for it.  If it's not your "home," then I suppose there's no reason to stake much on it.  "Getting out of Dodge" gives the impression that there's necessarily a BETTER place to go to.  I'm not sure that in the future, well, out in the countryside, you're going to, as a "wanderer," be welcomed with open arms: might be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Sometimes one gets locked into an old paradigm, an old way of looking at things.  And in this case, yes, things might be a bit closer to what you're describing...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 04:44 | 3146728 OldPhart
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Neighbors with regular keggars are always welcome.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:12 | 3151335 aubreyfarmer
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When you get right down to it we are all tenants on the land.  Ad valorem taxes levied by city, county, MUD district, hospital district etc. make sure we never truly own anything.  Just one more way the state exercises its power over each and every one of us.  Taxes on almost everything we buy or sell, automobile registration, boat registration, trailer registration, permit fees on everything from building a fence to installing a water heater.  Freedom is an illusion.  We are birds in a gilded cage.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:09 | 3146075 Esso
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+1 trillion!

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:18 | 3146093 Harbanger
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When you figure in your property taxes, upkeep costs, interest on principal, insurance and assessments, one doesn't even come close to recouping the monies paid out. In many states, rent is tax deductible {a percentage}. In today's environment, renting makes more sense than ever.

I agree, but what you're describing is a typical single family homeowner.  When you look at your rentals as a business it's a whole different ballgame.  The guy with hard assets always has more flexibility if he's wise and plans well.  Even 3rd world hell holes have renters and landlords.  Maybe it's me but I've always seen renting as a waste of money.  Instead of paying rent, every onther rent check I get has bought me a new gold coin for the last 5 years. 

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:39 | 3146160 TheObsoleteMan
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The "single family homeowner" IS the bread and butter of real estate. Ask any realtor. Next is the "empty nesters", the 50s or 60s aged couple who are downsizing now that the kids are gone. But even this trend is reversing as the kids are either living at home with the folks longer, or returning home after some hardship {believe me, this is rampant now}. After the boomers die off, or crash, you can stick a fork in the USA. They are the last generation to see any real savings and wealth. When that money has been transferred into the hands of the health and government sectors, there will be very little buying of anything besides essentials and drugs. That is why so many states are now decriminalizing pot. The next step is to tax it.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 00:42 | 3146519 Seer
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"When that money has been transferred into the hands of the health and government sectors, there will be very little buying of anything besides essentials and drugs."

Wealth is an illusion.  You're measuring in what, fiat?

Just as many (though no folks here) don't get it that social security isn't money that's been setting in savings, "wealth" is only as good as there is sufficient physical resources backing it up.

People are missing the reality that the wealth already is gone, it was spent on pulling future growth in to the current era.  It's done!  Finished!  Government is merely playing the role of janitor now, trying to make things appear tidy in the face of a sinking ship.

When most of the world, and most of humans throughout history, live on bare essentials, then that this could happen here should be of little surprise.  The difference here was a combination of arable land and cheap energy: not too many countries can be said to have/have had this sweet combination.  As cheap energy passes us by we shall have nowhere to go but toward the mean.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:49 | 3146665 TheObsoleteMan
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"Wealth is an illusion". Please bank wire me your illusions.Seeing how it's not real,  you will not miss it, right?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:32 | 3147121 ElvisDog
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Plus, you never really "own" a house due to property taxes and other bills. I have no mortgage but still need to come up with $450 a month for property taxes alone, which is essentially a permanent mortgage on the house.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:00 | 3147188 BooMushroom
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Dear god man! Ours is less than $100 a month, in California. I hope you have a nice productive little farm.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:13 | 3147229 ElvisDog
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Hah, my "farm" consists of a couple of raised beds but gardening is a lot of fun. I pay $2500 in property taxes every 6 months, so my math was a little off but that still comes out to $416 a month. If you only pay $100 in CA, then you must have bought pre-Prop 13.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:20 | 3146096 Flakmeister
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If Harbanger were a realtor then it would explain some of the complete and utter bullshit they came up with in a recent thread...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:27 | 3146115 Harbanger
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I'm convinced you're either a chick or wish you were.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:35 | 3146144 Flakmeister
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Why don't you come over and suck my cock and find out for yourself....

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:37 | 3146155 Harbanger
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Who would want a man to suck his cock?  You fagmeister.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:45 | 3146180 Flakmeister
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What, your avatar is not Suzanne Vega recovering from Chemo??

BTW, you were you the one that brought up gender...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:24 | 3146650 Midas
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I down-arrowed you for bringing the lovely Ms. Vega into this. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:40 | 3146663 Flakmeister
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Yeah, my bad... I took a closer look and I now see that it is actually k.d. lang...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 03:20 | 3146685 Midas
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Up arrow.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:53 | 3146338 SilverFish
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Only if he's wearing lipstick, through a glory-hole and at least sounds like a chick........ no moustache.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:30 | 3146593 pods
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Well I thought it was funny.


Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:20 | 3146690 SilverFish
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Guess at least one guy here doesn't like glory holes.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:21 | 3146100 Divine Wind
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You are so right.

Buy a sail boat and be a live aboard instead. :)

You learn to live with less shit due space limitations, the nautical community tends to be a great crowd, and...

If you do not like your neighbor or the view, change slips or move to another marina.

In this scenario, your home moves.

I recommend a cruising catamaran.

For me, this is ideal.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:34 | 3146658 Parrotile
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Another who's "seen the light"!

Problem with Cats is they take up significant space (so many marinas don't particularly like them, or impose a mooring surcharge). Can't say I'm enamoured with their tendency to pitch violently when things get "interesting", and in very heavy seas differential torsion loads across the bridge-deck can, and have, led to hull separation.

It's a different but extremely pleasant lifestyle isn't it.  Marina "residents" do seem a lot more sociable than the hoi polloi, and everyone has useful practical skills and knowledge - knowledge that is easily pooled in times of crisis.

The best thing is that should times become "particularly interesting" you have the means to up anchor and sail off into the sunset, providing you've planned ahead and obtained the equipment and skills needed to navigate without the aid of today's electronic aids,  since it's almost a foregone conclusion that Civilian GPS access will be one of the very first things to disappear once "it" hits the fan.

Our current home - long keel monohull 42' twin mast rig. Older Volvo diesel (no engine electronics anywhere), epoxy sheathed GRP composite hull, galvanised wire rigging throughout (far less risk of failure via embrittlement), and far easier / cheaper to replace than stainless, Aries self steering (saves battery power) and is simple and inexpensive to repair - critical spares are available Worldwide, or at a pinch  "running repairs" can be effected with relatively minor engineering skills.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 08:56 | 3146838 GCT
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Ahh buying one in May.  Trying to find a reasonable cat is hard to do.  The wife will not do a monohull.  Mooring fees double on cats as well in most places. Next stop is a decent motor sailing boat.  That way she can walk in and not climb in and have windows.  But your right this is the way to go.  Hell I took her on a 50" oceanis and she hated it. She walked into the boat and the top loading refer and freezer were turn offs and there was no place to actually kick back and lounge.  My son did not want to sail at all.  Sailed most of my life. My son and wife's idea of a good boat equals a dam 45 Sea Ray.  

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:15 | 3151006 mess nonster
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Hey, it's a buyers market for a boat. if ever there was a time to buy, its now...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:58 | 3146249 Ness.
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You both make great points.  It all depends on where you live, how long you plan to live there, and what type of property you plan to buy.  I was renting in Chicago prior to the boom (2004ish) while SF homes in my hood were selling for $175K they were being torn down and replaced with 3 flat condos selling for $500K/unit ($1.5M).  SF homes that were once reasonable were now selling for $1M+.. crazy, it couldn't last.  In 2008-09 3 flats were selling @ $350K.  With the help of  some tasty weed... which led to much procrastination, in 2009 I started looking into buying owner occupy 3 flats.  Living in one unit and renting the other 4 rooms ended up covering the nut on the mortgage and I lived rent free while buying property.  Rinse and repeat... the longterm income stream is your retirement.  Take the profits and buy tillable acreage (if you can find it).  Even though I agree that renting alone works in certain areas, if you have the opportunity (no wife or kids or college) to invest in rentals while young, now is the time.  


I am NOT a realtor.  Actually I hate dealing with them.  


Sat, 01/12/2013 - 10:26 | 3146906 DaveyJones
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plus one for the realtor crack

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:32 | 3146302 johnnynaps
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Come on, every situation is different. My tenant pays $1200 a month for a 1000 square foot condo. I just purchased a 2400 sq ft home and pay $1500 a month with inflated taxes and inflated pmi. When my basement is finished, I will be rocking 3500 sq ft. Granted short sale property at great interest rate. Best part, my wife can walk to work so we save on the car payment. People just need to make better, more logical decisions. My next property is my retirement plan (funeral home)!

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:07 | 3146072 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Let's see, buy a house and watch its value drop significantly. Lose tens of thousands of dollars. Great plan!!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 05:20 | 3146744 OldPhart
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Bought my house in 98 for $75k, in 2006 I was offered equity loans over $350k (I live in California).  I owe less than $40k.  Resell would be about $100k currently.  Have one mortgage (didn't play the games [due to my own ignorance and debt aversion]) and would have spent at least $1,000 a month on rent up to now versus the $750 (with escrow) a month I've been paying.

I still have a job, probably will have it for at least another five or so years because the 2008 Obama money is starting to filter through the system, and even though I'm dramatically underpaid as the Corporate Controller for 32 companies (aggregate mining, ready mix, steel, recycling, steel fabrication, and real estate) I gladly trade the local work for the high salary of a position in Los Angeles, San Diego or the gaping shithole known as San Bernardino.

There is a lot of personal satisfaction in being able to be involved with the local Salvation Army, Boy Scouts,  the Gun Club and other organizations that I couldn't with an extra five hour commute.  My wife and I are locally known in this community that we are 'on call' to help almost anyone, including the Town itself.

Other than a three year period in Florida back in the late 80's, I rented.  Every payment felt like I took the money and burnt it.  And even when we left all of the places pristine, getting our deposit back was next to impossible.  And we moved a lot back in the 80's and 90's as rents went up.  The house we rented in 1983 for $100 became $500 in 1987.  The next, rat and cockroach infested $100 house jumped to $300 in 1989. (Lived next to a funeral home.  Every once in a while the funeral director would come over and ask if I could give him a hand picking up, or moving a body.  BTW,if you ever pull up to a house to get a body and the cops are outside REALLY don't want to go in there!)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 01:24 | 3146584 tango
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Harbanger - the signs of the times... Forget being practical.  Didn't you realize that home buying is a tool of the banks to enslave us?  Even suggesting a practical, reasonable course of action - buying a house, building equity, establishing credit - is voted down.  This demonstrates better than anything how far we've come from what was only a short time ago an aspirational society.   Now it's simply holding on for the collapse and surviving the chaos. 

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:51 | 3146029 SilverDOG
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Total B.S. James.

If one constructs savings for their lifetime even earlier in life, the gains are massive. 

One does not necessarily need to keep savings in their portfolio, as deals of a lifetime may be taken advantage of due to savings. 

Now for kids, teens, 20's, and 30's metals are where to place savings, as time is one your side.

Jobs still do exist for those willing to seek locally, especially for kids.

The two I have responsibility for are diehard savers in forms of preservation and capturing the benefit of time.


Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:10 | 3146076 Vampyroteuthis ...
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I don't know of any 20 year old who has a job and the ability to save a significant amount. It is just old farts who are delusional is saying someone in their 20's can save enough towards retirement at that point. Get real.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:25 | 3146108 SilverDOG
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Keep swallowing the materialistic Joneses self destructive lifestyle, you've been trained well.

Get frugal or get F*&*ed. 

Or as I did, work the Alaskan fishing fleet and commercial diver and stop bitchin'.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:07 | 3146232 oddjob
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Awesome! you raped the ocean for profit, congrats. Your fucking snide attitude is so whitebread.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 08:56 | 3146839 SilverDOG
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Right, I should have flown to Alaska and protested as the boats fueled and filled with gear and fishermen, including govt regulator... to go and work the most regulated fisheries in the US.

I applaud your... idiocy. Especially as it threatens your rationalized slack. 


Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:09 | 3146948 oddjob
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And I applaud your...nothing... Rubbing the fact that you profited from a skilless trade in the face of a younger generation that for the most part will not enjoy the same standard of living that their parents did is so classy.

As for your government regulator......HAAAAAAA!...they always get it right.



Sat, 01/12/2013 - 10:00 | 3146885 Ricky Bobby
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Hey Oddhole fish are a renewable resource.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:41 | 3146950 oddjob
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Dick, I live in the Pacific Northwest, if you think Salmon stocks are healthy you are one fucked up individual.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:53 | 3147001 Ricky Bobby
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I am from Florida and shrimp are the bugs of the sea you can't stop them from reproducing, snapper and mahi mahi everwhere. Manage them yes - Outlaw harvesting no - NWO BS. Next you going to tell me the earth can only sustain 500 million. Fuck the eco fascist, the useful idiots of their banker overlords.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:17 | 3147030 oddjob
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Placing your trust in government regulators is so naive.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:36 | 3147129 Ricky Bobby
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Hey troll - Who said government regulators? I guess you are projecting your bias.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:15 | 3147235 oddjob
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You do guess alot.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:43 | 3146330 LoneStarHog
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Retirement?  Retire from what, unemployment?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:36 | 3147128 ElvisDog
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I particularly don't like the recommendation to open a Roth IRA. You pay your after-tax money now and hope the government doesn't change the tax-free status of withdrawls for the next 20-30 years. Good luck with that.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:17 | 3146955 bjfish
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So, is Oblamer a Jooo?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:57 | 3147499 piceridu
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I'm wondering where this info-graphic is from? A lot of the things recommended from this chart only encourage more wage slaves: Start a 401k, Consider Buying a house, Get enough insurance coverage, Re-balance your portfolio,  Convert to a Roth IRA, Cut off your grown kids, Become an Opportunistic Shopper...and on and on. 

I can wager that this was put together by someone in or sponsored by the F.I.R.E. industries. No mention of growing your own food, finding a community of like minded citizens, protect yourself and your family by staying close and becoming self sufficient, stop being a consumer, protect your wealth with real assets with savings in gold and silver...

All hail: Finance, Insurance and Real Estate industries...creators of real wealth and prosperity! 

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:05 | 3145898 francis_sawyer
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Any of those fuckwads own any PHYZZ?... Got ammo?... Got food?... Ever even fucking THOUGHT about it?... The ones who can't bother are going to be the first to keel when mama hogs tit dries up...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:11 | 3145910 I think I need ...
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did u see the guy that was friends with fps russia down in georgia that got shot? The gun advocate? 9th leading viewed youtube site he owned apparently,,,,,shits getting scary

name was keith ratliff WTF is that about ?

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:17 | 3145948 James_Cole
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"WTF is that about ?"

All about irony, someone with a bad sense of humour apparently. 

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:59 | 3146057 q99x2
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Obama's hit list is activated and running hot.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:23 | 3146273 francis_sawyer
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Fuck Obama ~ I'm right here whenever he wants to come git me... [He's too busy trying to keep the money wheel spinning for his jew lobby connection buddies to worry about shits like me]... I sleep soundly evry night knowing one simple fact... THERE IS NO FUCKING PROFIT IN KILLING FRANCIS-SAWYER... That's the best way to keep yids off your jock...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 00:55 | 3146537 perchprism
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STFU you anti-Semite cocksucking fag.  Blow me, you God-damned troll.  You're here for one purpose:  paint ZeroHedge with the We-Hate-Joos brush.  You suck outloud.  Cocksucker. 



Sat, 01/12/2013 - 02:32 | 3146656 awakening
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Was there a point in that rambling post of yours?

This is ZH not Yahoo News, refute the point properly (tell me wtf I shouldn't be concerned about a group of people, from which several countries have made laws in their defence against those that dare to question the Holocaust) or STFU.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:07 | 3146231 DoChenRollingBearing
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You got it f_s.  Buy and hold physical precious metals.  MUCH better to start while young and get into the habit of buying when you can.  By the time you are in your 50s (where I am now), you will have a decent stash.

Ammo and food are good too, but more in a SHTF way, the PMs (we hope) to fund the future.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:25 | 3146291 francis_sawyer
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Salt DCRB... Get aotta salt too...

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:26 | 3145971 killallthefiat
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Noticably absent in ""what you can do" is

buy gold and silver

save all you can

try to protect your kids by educating them

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:08 | 3146235 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, + 1

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 20:52 | 3146042 CheapBastard
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Union Defends 13 Calif. Lifeguards Making Over $120,000: ‘Very Fair & Very Reasonable’

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:28 | 3146118 Divine Wind
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I have ZERO problem with THIS position making THIS salary, particularly on a public beach on the Pacific.

Some slob leaning on a shovel at the side of a road project does not warrant this, nor someone doing cheesy admin work at the local DMV, nor the garbage men, etc... But those putting their asses on the line for the rest of us, I have no problem with it.

Glad they are there.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 22:29 | 3146296 Totentänzerlied
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You forgot the SARC tag.

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