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Northern China On Health Alert As Beijing Pollution "Off The Scale", Surpassing "Hazardous" Levels

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Who would have thought that ultra-rapid industrialization, building entire empty cities to goalseek a supply-driven GDP number that has no reflection on demand reality, and ramming an entire country's industrial output into overdrive without any concern for the environmental impact would have a disastrous effect on smog levels. Certainly not China. Which is why earlier today people across much of northern China were warned to stay indoors as the entire region was put on health alert to avoid air pollution that, in the Beijing area, was among the worst for a decade and possibly ever, is literally off the charts and has in many areas reduced visibility to under 50 metres.

As SCMP reports, "in Beijing, pollution readings by the local environmental watchdog, as well as the US embassy, blew past the upper limit of "hazardous" early yesterday afternoon and stayed there for the rest of the day. US embassy pollution data published hourly on Twitter showed the level of health-threatening PM2.5 - or particles smaller than 2.5 microns - had reached 886 micrograms per cubic metre at 8pm. Its Air Quality Index, which includes PM2.5 and ozone, had surged past the maximum rating of 500 to 755, or "beyond index". With no wind forecast to bring more favourable conditions in the next three days, experts said the worst may be yet to come. "It's so awful that I find it really difficult to breathe," said Zhou Rong , a Greenpeace campaigner in Beijing. "It's the most polluted day I can remember."" Then again, who needs to breathe as long as the brand new Politburo can pretend the economy is growing at the needed 7%+ level, so critical to preserve stability. In fact, to paraphrase Stalin, if China has a few less people, it would also have a few less problems. So maybe the record smog levels are not all that unwelcome after all.

More from SCMP:

The Beijing Municipal Environmental Protection Bureau said its own figures showed PM2.5 levels had exceeded 700 micrograms per cubic metre since early afternoon. That pushed the Air Quality Index to its maximum of 500 for the first time since real-time air pollution updates began on New Year's Day.

 

Under the mainland's newly revised standards, a level above 200 is considered heavy pollution and unhealthy to those with lung or heart diseases. Readings above 300 are deemed "hazardous for the entire population".

 

State television and local media warned people to avoid going outdoors as much as possible, quoting forecasts that suggest winds will not arrive to clear the choking smog until Tuesday.

 

Beijing Children's Hospital said heavy pollution was largely to blame for the number of children being treated for respiratory ailments hitting a five-year high in the past week, with more than 7,000 patients a day.

 

Exacerbated by heavy fog, pollution in Chengdu , Jinan , Wuhan , Xian , Zhengzhou and many other cities has worsened significantly in recent days. Visibility fell to less than 50 metres in many areas, forcing the closure of dozens of highways and the cancellation of dozens of flights.

AFP chimes in:

Those who did venture out wore facemasks for protection, with visibility low, the skyline shrouded, and the sun hidden in the smog.

 

Air quality in Beijing showed airborne particles with a diameter small enough to deeply penetrate the lungs at a reading of 456 micrograms per cubic metre, the warning centre said.

 

The quality is considered good when the figure stands at less than 100.

 

Fog also covered vast swathes of east and central China also closed numerous highways and delayed flights in several provinces, it added.

 

China's air quality is among the worst in the world, international organisations say, citing massive coal consumption and car-choked city streets in the world's biggest auto market.

And some pictures:

 


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Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:26 | Link to Comment RacerX
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USA back in the '50s.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:33 | Link to Comment flacon
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Chineze's tend to wear those face masks a lot... just sayin'.... 
Oh, and also they use "sun umbrellas" a lot too. Even here in rural Canada - the face masks and sun unbrellas.  

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:39 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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Saw a report of at least 2 people dead of bird flu in Bejing recently.  That'll get many more folks masked up real fast over there.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:46 | Link to Comment knukles
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The CDC will say that 2,000 of 'em die every day of bird flu.
Take your shots

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:54 | Link to Comment Caged Monkey
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Printing money should fix that.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:58 | Link to Comment ACP
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Or better yet, why can't they just print clean air?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:59 | Link to Comment Caged Monkey
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Clean air is one of the green shoots.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:56 | Link to Comment redpill
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Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave but don't leave me
Look around and chose your own ground
For long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be
Run, run rabbit run
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down it's time to dig another one
For long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
And balanced on the biggest wave
You race toward an early grave.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:22 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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NWO, NOW, OWN...pollution.

Congratulations Yoda!

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 19:53 | Link to Comment trav777
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China is the future, they're gonna take over everything.  Look how smart and efficient they are

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment koncaswatch
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redpill +1 for Pink Floyd.

There is a lot of prescient thought in their lyrics; we will quote them much in the coming months/years.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:12 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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not really sure how this gets down votes.

Perhaps "We don't need no thought control"

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 07:29 | Link to Comment malikai
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I'm in Beijing right now. High pressure system has locked in air that should be being blown out to sea. It happens quite often here. Similar to an inverse of the LA basin, the mountains surrounding the city cause this from time to time.

It's pretty bad.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 17:33 | Link to Comment laomei
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Yep, it's a high pressure system and it sucks balls.  All this shit is basically some car fumes, but mainly from everyone in China burning coal for heat.

 

As bad as it is, it used to be worse, much much much worse.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 19:54 | Link to Comment trav777
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nuclear power to the rescue!!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:51 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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That because they grew up in a dying empire

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:02 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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fuckin ravens.....

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:23 | Link to Comment toady
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No doubt brother, no doubt.

Will the Pats be saying the same next week?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:47 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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indeed they will....

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:01 | Link to Comment nmewn
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And digitize the dirty!

Fixed...next!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:14 | Link to Comment espirit
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How long before China exports the pollution back at the U.S.?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:18 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Please don't give Wal-Mart any ideas.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:50 | Link to Comment knukles
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Next be determined by People's Central Committee on Truth in Pollution and Red Squinty Eyes that it was Nefarious Underhanded Gaijin like Doings of Evil Japanese Imperial Forces in Attack for Purity of Doucheiutowat Islands.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment akak
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Very mattering crustification.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment CompassionateFascist
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Ananonymous had a mild attack of flatulence. That's all it is. 

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 00:31 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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He was having another episode of the dog farts, triggered by too much wokking.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 23:41 | Link to Comment mkhs
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We are already downwind of Japan.  It is coming.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 00:18 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Obama will give China the states of Alaska and California.  Problem solved.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment PhD
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Silly you!

One doesn’t print clean air!

One printz the money and then buy the air from the primary dealers such as Al Gore and the other champions of freedom.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:11 | Link to Comment CPL
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That's what carbon credits are appearently.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:34 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Except working people are poorer by the mechanism.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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This looks just terrible.  But the main ecological problem in China, Japan and Hollywood remains climate change.  So first and foremost we need agenda 21 and carbon taxes.  Bend over and pay up.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Matt
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Incompletely burning gasoline in an 8:1 compression engine, or burning coal with no scrubber, would certainly be covered under a Greenhouse Gas Taxation or Credit scheme.

Remember, GHG includes all gases that insolate, preventing infrared waves from escaping into space. The tax or credit should apply to all manmade sources, not just Carbon Dioxide.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:52 | Link to Comment PrintemDano
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Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.  As Moe would say "Wake up and go to sleep".

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:57 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Agenda 21? Really?

You seem to have finally self-asphyxiated on your own bullshit...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:31 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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I regret that I have but one green arrow to give you.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:49 | Link to Comment nmewn
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So you're saying democracy sucks when it doesn't go your way ;-)

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 01:12 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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Not at all - Kinda the same as saying +100 itn't it?  I was expressing my fervent opposition to Agenda 21 - a concept which merits much profanity.  And was surprised to see that another critique of same was being downvoted here.

 

Musta missed the /s at the beginning of the thread or was it the messenger, not the message about agenda 21 collecting the down-red?

OK then - I'll go ahead shoot a red one in my own head too :-)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:24 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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We all know who's full of shit, Flaksheisser.  It's you.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:54 | Link to Comment Zero Debt
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That is so true, greenhouse gases wreaking havoc on sunrays in outer space are far more dangerous than urban air pollution. Which is why all good Agenda 21 citizens must take action: a reduction in breathing frequency of 80% reduces cellular carbon emissions by over 95%.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Silver Bug
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I have been there, it truly is disgusting the level of pollution. 

 

http://ericsprott.blogspot.ca/

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:14 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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The level of spam pollution is getting pretty bad on ZH, as well.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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Ha ha .. looks like a west Texas dust storm ...  

 

(I think a re-analysis is called for ... that COULD just be west CHINA dust ...)

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:37 | Link to Comment toady
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I was over there in the mid-80's and they where all wearing masks. They always said it was for flu season, allergy season, whatever. It was never about pollution.

Sounds like they better up their game to full chem suits if it's as bad as they say.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 23:33 | Link to Comment jonjon831983
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Only round eye barbarians don't wear face masks n sun umbrellas.

 

Haven't you heard of the negative health effects of sunlight?  All the airborne diseases out there?

 

But really, I think post-SARS / Bird Flu had a big influence on wearing face masks.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 02:56 | Link to Comment The Shootist
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Dont they wear weird pantyhose ski masks on the beach?

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 01:26 | Link to Comment Missiondweller
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Even here in foggy San Francisco you see that among older Chinese.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:45 | Link to Comment Nels
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USA in hte 50s?  Maybe in the inversion prone areas of California, but it was not a general problem.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:02 | Link to Comment granolageek
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Pittsburgh. Ron Paul's home town.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:39 | Link to Comment Apostate2
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A hot gay?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Louie the Dog
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USA back in the '50s.

Really?  Not where I lived.  

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:58 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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You were lucky...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Jendrzejczyk
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Were you ever in Gary Indiana in the late 1960'S?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:05 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Were you ever in Gary ever???

There is nothing like the Indiana Dunes: take a walk to the down shore, taking care not to step in the polluted stream (that runs through a State Park) to be greeted by US steel to your left and a nuclear power plant to your right...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:13 | Link to Comment knukles
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To then proceed directly north into the South Side of Chicago, Cabrini Green, Robert Taylor homes, etc., etc., etc.
A Veritable Liberal Paradise adjoining Graven Capitalist Images

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:34 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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And all those projects are mostly gone now.   The former residents have been dispersed in the 'burbs on section 8 vouchers.  

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:01 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Sniff sniff...cccan't we all just get alooong?

Actually no, motherfuckers. Not when there are nothing but smiles while Reginald Denny gets his head caved in by a brick.

Only TWO REAL MEN (Titus Murphy & Bobby Green) saw the injustice and helped...where the fuck was the rest?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:23 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Dood, Chill. It's hard to be a Good Samaratin when you're trying to get your brand new 27' Television home from "The Good Guystm". Back in those days, they were CRT's, not these fancy LED smart TV's.

We had to carry em home in the snow...uphill...both ways. Kids these days got it easy.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:42 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Man I swear, most don't see it (all colors) but for the few that do, we'll be just fine.

The rest are pretty much fucked and it can't come soon enough for me and we'll be showing the same mercy provided to the innocent that they did.

Count on it.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 23:00 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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Are u in a bunker??? I was in OC/LA back in '92 and there's no national 'we'. No one gives a shit. Not even the next town let alone another state. Sure the media pipes it up but that doesn't get anyone off their couch

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 23:57 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I'm above ground and I intend to stay that way. My point was (obviously) only TWO people gave a shit, locally. Now, I no longer give a shit enough to go help them or anyone, NATIONALLY.

Let it fucking burn.

You can thank the leeches of all varities when you see them, it won't hold together without me and YOU.

They are on their own...I'm done with compromising myself down to the lowest common denominator baby...its time to sink or swim.

I pulled all mine out of this fucked up, half assed shit train and am paying the monetary price. Did you?

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 03:18 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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I'm still sucking the corporate teet but tasted the freedoms of costa rica this year and that is where my eject button will land me

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 11:10 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Me too (work wise) but not only did I cash out an IRA I quit contributing to the 401k...less for Merril to screw around with, let em print more to replace it.

I was lookin at Panama (better gun rights) but they're screwin around with those rights down there too now.

May have to just take one over...a little rebellion every now & then isn't necessarily a bad thing ;-)

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/little-rebellionquotation

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:37 | Link to Comment Jendrzejczyk
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The dead fish stinking up the beaches extended up into even ritzy Lake Forest. Odd when the fruits of your misdeeds blossom under your own feet.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 10:17 | Link to Comment Vendetta
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yep.  The only city I have ever seen that had orange air, however that was back in the 70's or thereabouts.  I'm sure most of the industry moved to somewhere else by now like china.  They don't have to clean their manufacturing by-products there.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 00:22 | Link to Comment Braverdave
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London 1952

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog

edit : (and London was like that quite a bit in earlier years another half century further back)

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 09:24 | Link to Comment midtowng
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Who needs environmental laws, right?

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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Property Rights work better, it's a few thousand that would have to be bribed rather than just one EPA guy every 3 months.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Who pays for the necessary monitoring? It is easy to hide lots of toxic shit like lead...

Would you be content with the current and clear evolution of towards corporate interests owning all the "property", or at the least a sufficient amount to influence the enforcement of  rule of law...

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment ich1baN
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I am actually here in Beijing. I am living in this right now. I can tell you that the above pictures do not, I REPEAT, DO NOT, do justice to what the air quality actually looks like in most areas of Beijing. I have a picture from my cell phone while I was on the bus yesterday and we could not see more than 20 meters ahead of us because the white smog was so dense. It was so bad that my tongue went numb yesterday. Before you ask why I was out, I had to.

My roommate from England asked, I wonder why there aren't many people out today? I said well there are 2 reasons. One, the Chinese New Year is coming and people are going back home and 2 the air quality is like breathing air while launching space shuttles from inside your home. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:27 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Smog alarmists.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:43 | Link to Comment knukles
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  Anthropogenic Smog Alarmists

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:46 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:02 | Link to Comment akak
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I am sure that AnAnonymous will soon pop in to tell us how all this foul Chinese smog is purely due to 'american' overconsumptionalization, or 'american' resource blobbing-up, or some such projected nonsense.

How about it AnAnonymous?  Ready to finally accept some blame on behalf of your glorious Middle Kingdom of fabled present and past?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I can hear the rationalizations now...a billion plus vs a meager 300 million...the ends justify the means of the centrally planned chinese communist citizenism economy!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:13 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Or he will blame it on faux scientists hungry for grant money.  Or Al Gore.  Yeah, Al Gore.  He is just trying to profit from Chinese smog.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:38 | Link to Comment potlatch
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only unclear citizienism sees this as a crushing blow.  you go ahead and think the solution is for everyone to become like you.  when the Chinese become clear headed and find they are adjusting, who will be strolling on Mars?  Not unclear citizienism, that's for sure.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:44 | Link to Comment knukles
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Yo, he vented the Internet, homie.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:17 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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I will start worrying about global warming when I see or hear about Al Gore living in a cardboard box.  As long as he's riding around in a limo, or flying all around in his private jet to one of his many mansions, I am not going to worry.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:47 | Link to Comment nmewn
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He sold his hockey stick and what ever passed for his integrity for a mere 500 million...to the emir of oil rich Qatar no less.

God I love having lived long enough to see that!...lol.

Its not like we didn't try to tell them he was a charlatan...kinda like John Edwards getting the "Husband of the Year Award"...all cotton and no candy ;-)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:01 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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Can you believe that dude dated HEATHER LOCKLEAR?  Gold digger......girl after my own heart.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:11 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol...always been partial to Christie Brinkley myself (bears a resemblance to Mrs.N) although Mrs.N is much more intelligent, truly caring and mentally balanced than Christie will ever be ;-)

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 02:40 | Link to Comment Manic by Proxy
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Picture please. Only for research purposes.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 18:35 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Thats exactly why I can't ;-)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:14 | Link to Comment erg
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Bought a mansion on the waterfront. Pussbag!

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 10:31 | Link to Comment Vendetta
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Gore never sold his integrity, you can't sell what you never had (unless you are in the future's market) ... but he sure is laughing now at everyone who bought his snake oil.  He never made sense with so many manufacturing facilities leaving this country in droves. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:40 | Link to Comment Sparkey
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That guy, I really don't think he is Chinese, haa got you, and `Shit obsessed`, and the others, Pavlovaized, everytine he rings the bell the whole gang does their  dance on cue, this is fun for us to watch but does it bring any relief to you? How do you rationalize this behavior? Please share your thoughts with us!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:52 | Link to Comment akak
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I respond to the retarded and bigoted troll in the only language that he appears to understand: monotonously repetitive nonsense.  But AnAn IS Chinese, as his repeated parrotings of official Chinese anti-Tibetan propaganda justifying their invasion and annexation of that unfortunate nation clearly demonstrates, as well as his garbled Engrish syntax that only a native Chinese speaker could ever produce.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:53 | Link to Comment Matt
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It's a honey pot strategy. When AnAnonymous is in the mood to post, best to kept him/her focused on a single subthread, otherwise the sometimes clear, sometimes murky posts appear in all the threads.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:15 | Link to Comment Sparkey
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It is a ~Game~ you folks play together for mutual benefit, Why not? you Love each other in a reverse/perverse kind of way that is beyond my powers to describe. We can't always have fun and talk Potty the way we were never allowed to, enjoy, as for garbled english; Have you erver seen any of the "Charlie Chan" movies? Someone is pulling your leg!!!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:10 | Link to Comment Jendrzejczyk
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Juvenile and shameful perhaps, but sometimes beating that dead horse is the best part of my day.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:15 | Link to Comment knukles
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At times seems we need a whole corral of 'em to just stay sane in a mad world.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:11 | Link to Comment centerline
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Well said.  It falls somewhere between fun and therapy - lol.  Anon is one trick troll though.  I expect more from ZH trolls.  Got to keep standards up around here.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:17 | Link to Comment Sparkey
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Up tick for honesty!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:59 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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AnAnonymous is probably coughing so much he can't type out one of his disjointed missives.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:00 | Link to Comment centerline
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Dammit akak, I logged in just to talk about Chinese citizenism.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:27 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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What a shock! Joe Biden probably still wishes we were more like Communist China.

Cough-cough.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:48 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Fuck Joe Biden in the ass sideways.  You do it.  I wouldn't want to be in the same room with the little weasel.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment spankfish
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You sir have besmirched all hard working and upstanding weasels of the word by placing Joey B in the same goup.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Form a committee!!!...better yet a task force...good Lord someone do something!!!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:28 | Link to Comment ABG LINE
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I have a cold.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:48 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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OH MY GOD!!!!
ME TO!!!!

IT'S A PANDEMIC!!!!

EVERYBODY!!!! TO THE BUNKER!!!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:05 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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Can't!  Mine's full of weasels!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:32 | Link to Comment blindman
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"progress" has it's price. next thing you know
they will be exporting their manufacturing and
become a service based and financial economy.
oh right, africa.com......

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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The entire country is "pretty gritty" especially the urban areas.  From Army NBC training, local inversion conditions cause agents in the atmosphere to become stagnant and concentrated.  And inversion is a fairly common phenomenon.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:35 | Link to Comment PUD
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Not to worry. A few days and it will blow across the pacific to Seattle following the same route as the near extinct radioactive bluefin tuna slaughtered by the other growth obsessed asian nation China is gearing up to go to war with over some rocks. Whew! For a minute i thought this shit was serious.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:59 | Link to Comment Zero Debt
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You mean we will not be eating shark fin soup with frickin laser beams breathing radioactive sulphur acid within our lifetime? Shocking.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:36 | Link to Comment Praetor
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Chinese citizinism duty to cleanse air using own lungs.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Kayman
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What a price to pay to make cheap shit for WallyMart and App-L. Clean air- isn't there an App for that ?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:07 | Link to Comment akak
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Duty of blobbing-up smogs into Chinese citizenism citizens' lungs is indeed the mattering thing accordingto infallible Chinese Communist Sharty --- very crusty, very much something.

Alas, alas, one point three billion times alas, addings of aborted fetuses, post-wokked dogs and human nightsoil onto roadsides is also parts of their citizenism duty additionally -- just have to bear with it.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment knukles
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Honey, would you wok the dog?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment akak
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Just a second, dear --- I have to finish offuscationalizing my monolizing of the speeching means first.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Come see our great shitties and breathe deep the shitty air!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:24 | Link to Comment akak
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Make me laugh!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 23:05 | Link to Comment Zero Debt
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Free high speed derailtickets!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:23 | Link to Comment Jendrzejczyk
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My white dog now has purple spots.

You owe me a dog wash and a glass of wine.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:08 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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"Not tonight, Dear..........we're having Fetus Soup."

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Sounds like the Chinese need the equivalent of the EPA....    Whodathunkit....

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:59 | Link to Comment nmewn
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They're still trying to refine "central planning"...after all these years, one would have thought they would have it all figgered out by now ;-)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Apostate2
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But, they got the 19th century handbook.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:59 | Link to Comment nmewn
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The little red one by Mao?...lol.

A selected quote...

"Without the efforts of the Chinese Communist Party, without the Chinese Communists as the mainstay of the Chinese people, China can never achieve independence and liberation, or industrialization and the modernization of her agriculture."

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/ch01.htm

Apparatchiks unite wearing particle masks!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Apostate2
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Mao thought he could skip a step in the playbook and rely on the peasantry, the stupid fuck. He missed the part where you need the new classes--the proles and the bourgeosie by creating an industrial revolution first. The Great Leap was a flop. As ever students of history, his successors realized their mistake and started the back to the future ball rolling, retrograde tech, dirty energy, pollution and so on. Reinventing a very nasty wheel. After all if you only had the collected works of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Mao to read (in abbreviated form) for forty years.....

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:15 | Link to Comment nmewn
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What the small "C" commies never see (or admit) is that they elevate those people above themselves.

Maybe I'm turning anarchist ;-)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 22:54 | Link to Comment Apostate2
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There is a little anarchist in all of us.

That doesn't sound quite right... beautiful smoggy day this morning (cough, cough) a gift from the small 'c' celestial kingdom.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 23:13 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Mine is growing exponentially.

I was fine for many years, recognizing it was there, holding it at bay, for the good of all I felt. Believing that it was live and let live by the law and that everyone respected this law.

This is not the case now.

There are those that live among us who assert what is mine, is theirs. Those who live among us who believe they can subject me and my loved ones to indiscriminate pat downs and road blocks under the guise of "public safety". Those that think breaking the law as a media prop (David Gregory) justifies it and is condoned or not punished for breaking it. Still others who equivocate that because a Wall Street bank steals more than welfare brood mare, somehow, that justifies the theft from the whole.

No...I'm done, with mans law and all its trappings.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 01:03 | Link to Comment Jam Akin
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Back to nature, eh? See you at Camp, bro.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 01:18 | Link to Comment Apostate2
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"A man buys hell here with so much pain, that he might have heaven with less than one-half. Occupy your minds with good thoughts, or the enemy will fill them with bad ones. Unoccupied, they cannot be."

Thomas Moore

(But you knew that)

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment laomei
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Actually, that whole decentralization push by mao resulted in some great stuff that's still paying off.  It wasn't just steel, it had impacts on fertilizer, cement, agriculture, etc. etc. etc.  Not the most efficient way to do things on paper, but it pays off in the end.  Now you have a whole lotta rather big companies instead of a handful that control everything.  Politically it also sparked the notion of "you can do anything", and as such you see a shitload of entrepreneurs who come in and fill local needs.. which effectively shuts out the megacorps that swoop in from overseas.  It's not a bad thing.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:35 | Link to Comment Apostate2
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They have an EPA.

Next question.

(My favourite story is when a local official painted a denuded mountain green to reduce stress amongst the villagers..you know to manage perceptions)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:37 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Unfortunately their EPA is like our SEC.. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Apostate2
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They have one of those too.

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Sequitur
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What a fucking disgusting shithole.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Lloyd_Xmas
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It could reduce CO2 emmissions 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:38 | Link to Comment granolageek
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It would make Ron Paul feel right at home. Just like Pittsburgh in the 50s. Who needs the EPA?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Ah the good old days when you couldn't throw a lit cigarette into the Cuyahoga for fear of an explosion...

All these young Libtards here have no fucking idea what it was once like here before "the dirty fuckin hippies" said enough was enough..  Lake Erie was all but pronounced DOA..

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:28 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Cleaning up Erie was a real job killer.  Seen any job openings lately for Indians crying in their canoe?   It was great work when you could get it.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:32 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Yeah, that was a killer ad...

And if people think parts of NJ are a shithole now, they would be aghast at what it once was...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:49 | Link to Comment gnomon
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It was better when the "shithole" parts of New Jersey were the result of pollution instead of the people.

I would trade these days for those days in a New York Minute.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:02 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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I always had a weak spot for Princeton...

Maybe because so few people from NJ lived there... 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Dick Buttkiss
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So you think that's the free market at work, Flakmeister, not the corruption thereof?

And the EPA's got a real chokehold on the world's biggest polluter:

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/2-us-department-of-d...

Which isn't counting the thousands of dead on "our" side of the ball or the millions of dead on "their" side.

Crony capitalism rules, Flakmeister, and every government bureaucracy is in on the scam.

You and the state can kiss my ass.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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So no doubt you are aware the US military is largest user of oil on the planet (organizationally speaking)...

So just what is your fucking point? Or do you even pretend to  have one? To keep it simple, lets limit ourselves to rational and coherent ones, do you want to try again?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:49 | Link to Comment Dick Buttkiss
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So no doubt you are aware the US military is largest user of oil on the planet (organizationally speaking)...

Yes, and it adds up pretty quickly at $400 a gallon to continue the imperial insanity:

http://green.autoblog.com/2011/12/06/pentagon-report-says-us-pays-400-ga...

To say nothing about how the military and related subsidization of oil prevent the market from investing sufficiently in alternatives:

http://www.iags.org/costofoil.html

You're a state-worshipping whore, Flakmeister, who wouldn't know freedom from a french fry or espouse it if you did.

 

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 18:56 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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You clearly have no fucking idea of what my views are if you think I have ever defended fossil fuel interests or the MIC....

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 06:23 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Waterways = Community property. Community property leads to tragedy of the commons.

Government gave businesses the very permits that were used to dump pollution in those public waterways.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 10:40 | Link to Comment Vendetta
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Ah yes, I do remember those days.  I also remember watching the Edmund Fitzgerald loading up on ore by while I was fishing for yellow perch.. you know the type with mercury in them... they were great for eating or finding out the temperature

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment Sparkey
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Don't you wish Pittsburg was like it was in the Fifties?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:38 | Link to Comment cardis
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arnt they busy on thorium?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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I suggest you read the fine print on Thorium unless you meant Throrazine, then yes, I concur...

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 10:03 | Link to Comment cardis
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