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"May The Farce Be With You" - White House Responds To Imperial Death Star Petition

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Almost a year ago, in February 2012, Zero Hedge decided to "think outside the box" and take Keynesianism and post-Chartalism (or whatever three letter acronym it is better known as these days) to their absurd, thought-experimental limits with "A Modest Proposal To Boost US GDP By $852 Quadrillion: Build The Imperial Death Star" - a suggestion that instead of growing US debt in dribs and drabs (because as any Ivy league tenured econ Ph.D will tell you, "debt is wealth"), that the US should go the whole hog and just splurge some $852 quadrillion in new debt (don't worry, MMT says that's just a token, no pun intended, amount) to build an Imperial Death Star, a project that would immediately hike US GDP by a factor of 56,000 and create several trillion new jobs, ensuring economic utopia in perpetuity, not to mention galactic dominance. We were mostly joking. We also assume that the creator of a White House petition launched in November to "Secure resources and funding, and begin construction of a Death Star by 2016" was also mostly joking. However, as that petition promptly accumulated well over 34,000 signatures, the White House had no choice but to respond. Here are the White House's thoughts on becoming the next iteration of the Galactic Empire (and, by implication, Barack Obama becoming Emperor Palpatine reincarnated).

From the White House:

Official White House Response to Secure resources and funding, and begin construction of a Death Star by 2016.

This Isn't the Petition Response You're Looking For

By Paul Shawcross

The Administration shares your desire for job creation and a strong national defense, but a Death Star isn't on the horizon. Here are a few reasons:

  • The construction of the Death Star has been estimated to cost more than $850,000,000,000,000,000. We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it.
  • The Administration does not support blowing up planets.
  • Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one-man starship?

However, look carefully (here's how) and you'll notice something already floating in the sky -- that's no Moon, it's a Space Station! Yes, we already have a giant, football field-sized International Space Station in orbit around the Earth that's helping us learn how humans can live and thrive in space for long durations. The Space Station has six astronauts -- American, Russian, and Canadian -- living in it right now, conducting research, learning how to live and work in space over long periods of time, routinely welcoming visiting spacecraft and repairing onboard garbage mashers, etc. We've also got two robot science labs -- one wielding a laser -- roving around Mars, looking at whether life ever existed on the Red Planet.

Keep in mind, space is no longer just government-only. Private American companies, through NASA's Commercial Crew and Cargo Program Office (C3PO), are ferrying cargo -- and soon, crew -- to space for NASA, and are pursuing human missions to the Moon this decade.

Even though the United States doesn't have anything that can do the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs, we've got two spacecraft leaving the Solar System and we're building a probe that will fly to the exterior layers of the Sun. We are discovering hundreds of new planets in other star systems and building a much more powerful successor to the Hubble Space Telescope that will see back to the early days of the universe.

We don't have a Death Star, but we do have floating robot assistants on the Space Station, a President who knows his way around a light saber and advanced (marshmallow) cannon, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is supporting research on building Luke's arm, floating droids, and quadruped walkers.

We are living in the future! Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field. The President has held the first-ever White House science fairs and Astronomy Night on the South Lawn because he knows these domains are critical to our country's future, and to ensuring the United States continues leading the world in doing big things.

If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us! Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

Paul Shawcross is Chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House Office of Management and Budget

Tell us what you think about this response and We the People.

 

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Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:28 | 3146965 Dr.
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We should get Europe and the BRICs to pay for it! They can have an IOUaSpaceFlightTicket in return!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:22 | 3147031 bigdumbnugly
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death star brought to you by a bunch of low lifes that do look like they are frequent denizens of the star wars bar.   so makes perfect sense to me.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:26 | 3147033 Cheesy Bastard
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It would be a pain in the ass to build.  "These are not the 'roids you're looking for".

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:24 | 3147104 BLOTTO
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There is already a death star in space...the International Space Station.

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Operated by the occult organization NASA.

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Wait until they project some holographic images from the ISS of a faked alien invasion...or some other bulshit. To decieve the masses yet again...

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You think that floating piece of shit can just measure wind currents and oceans tides?

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:40 | 3147140 Chupacabra-322
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Bulid it, activate it, point it straight at D.C and FIRE!!!  All the world's problems solved in an instant.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 15:51 | 3147403 FEDbuster
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Sell advertising on it, Death Star sponsored by Raytheon comes to mind.  Plus, the spots at the food court should command a premium rent. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:12 | 3147431 Snakeeyes
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Speaking of death or debt stars, the Administration has no probemo with soaring debt and spending. Obama as Darth Vader!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/01/12/debt-star-federal-deb...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:18 | 3147436 knukles
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WWWD?

What Would the Wookie Do?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:34 | 3147454 prains
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He'd build a 16 trillion dollar coin, prubem sholved

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 18:03 | 3147593 shinyindallas
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LTWW
Let The Wookie Win

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 01:38 | 3148337 dannyboy
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This would have been so much more exciting if Newt was president.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 03:59 | 3148459 Albertarocks
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LTWW

Laxatives Terminated Willie Wonka

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 22:09 | 3149756 jumbo maverick
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Also they could attach a big long banner on the Death Star just like an old bi plane would have. As the banner flutters while the Death Star moves through space you could read the banner from earth.

It would read- BUY AMERICAN BUY GM

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:19 | 3147815 Doomer
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Seriously, we're letting Canadians on the ISS?

Did we need gas money or something?  Maybe they're of the hot, blonde and female variety.  Gas, ass or grass!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:19 | 3147821 prains
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nope

 

you needed schmokes an a pancake

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:46 | 3147864 Flakmeister
Sun, 01/13/2013 - 04:06 | 3148467 Albertarocks
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Your links weren't all that helpful.  Neither of those articles mentions which country built those Canadarms.  My guess would be Paris.  Yeah that's right... the country of Paris.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 12:17 | 3148785 merizobeach
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"A lot of people liked Toronto, America. But I thought it was a shithole."

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 23:41 | 3148152 Half_A_Billion_...
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it's not like, you know, "canadians", it's just three beavers actually.  

 

catch up on your science dude

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 04:01 | 3148462 Albertarocks
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Yup!  Designated driver.  There's a party goin' on up there doncha know?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:32 | 3147045 Boris Alatovkrap
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Man on moon - worth is every dollar of fiat currency.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:25 | 3147112 krispkritter
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Fine, let's start with Obama, Ben, and Timmah...3 suits, one O2 tank. Pay Per View...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:53 | 3147172 A Nanny Moose
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Choom-Star

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:17 | 3147052 SafelyGraze
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the "hey kids! thanks for all your *great* questions!" tone goes back at least to the days of the colonists' grievances.

We're living in the future. Now. And it's a big future. A bright future. 
But securing that future isn't free. We all must pay our fair share.
Whether in the form of paying a stamp tax or a tea tax, feeding troops assigned to your house, or waiving your right to a trial, each of us has a role to play in taking the next step forward.

Your king,
George 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:51 | 3147295 Beam Me Up Scotty
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"We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it"

I LOL'd.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:21 | 3147825 Doomer
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Yes, that was a real knee-slapper.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:03 | 3147419 SAT 800
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Ouch. That hit entirely too close to home. Isn't it King Obama now? I think King George is reading comic books on his ranch in Texas.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:28 | 3147116 Never One Roach
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Too much reading and way, way too much Math. Forget it!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:30 | 3146969 AssFire
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So like this is even possible... kinda reminds me of the old adage:

If my aunt had balls- she'd be my uncle.

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:30 | 3146970 SnobGobbler
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sounds like they are still considering it.  GDP-to-the-moon!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:27 | 3147035 edb5s
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I'm anxious to hear a response from Paul "When Mars Attacks" Krugman. This sort of thing is right up his alley.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:31 | 3146971 lolmao500
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Still no answers on the secession petitions... that would force too much people to take the issue seriously... so better ignore it and hopes it goes away.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:43 | 3146985 john39
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this death star petition is a stupid distraction...  the U.S. military is already the equivalent of the death star....   forget about the fact that U.S. is broke thanks to using debt instead of money...   the U.S. still outspends other countries on "defense" (how orwellien) than most other countries defined...  you know, to defend the American people, or something.    time to end the stupidity.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:10 | 3147020 Flakmeister
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The military is the economy is the military.....

And so on....

Hell, we are even doing the ol' Roman mercenary thingie, a true harbinger of inevitable downfall.... 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:11 | 3147086 RockyRacoon
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Not necessarily.  The Death Star proposal is akin to the Trillion Dollar Coin thingy.  Reductio ad absurdum is a valid and effective argumentative course of action.  Depicting how utterly stupid both proposals are just shines a light on the current Gov't actions.  How different is the DS from a bridge to nowhere?   How different is the paper dollar in one's pocket (a 3.5 cent product) from the high-denomination platinum coin?  The rabble can look at these proposals and draw their own conclusions and see how goofy all this is.  Isn't one's own enlightenment more effective than having someone else explain it with charts/graphs and economic theory? 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 15:03 | 3147202 Flakmeister
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Since we are both in agreeement that the existing system is fubar, then it makes perfect sense to turn a trillion or 2 fiatcos into some non portable infrastructure, e.g. solar arrays to provide 50% of electricity demand... Borrow it, build it, default and dare anyone to repossess...

A death star is another thingie though....

Edit: BTW, Platinum was mentioned because no laws exist regarding the minting of Pt coins...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:05 | 3147013 Eahudimac
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I had an answer in my e-mail inbox this morning to the North Carolina secession petition. They said no.

 

Petition Response: Our States Remain United

By Jon Carson, Director of the Office of Public Engagement

Thank you for using the White House's online petitions platform to participate in your government.

In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.

But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.

Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."

Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.

So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."

Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideas and share more of your own.

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:17 | 3147100 JR
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First: Abraham Lincoln was not a founder of this country. And his views, even in office, changed to fit his situation.

The Founders greatly feared, despised and opposed the formation of a democracy, exactly what has been described in this letter.

The dangers of a democracy are that a mob, controlled by an elite, would overrule the rights and happiness of the minority. More than any administration in history, the Obama group has signaled the end of any state’s rights and the Constitution they swore to uphold, opening the borders to voters who would support socialism and vote for confiscation of Americans’ private property, literally dissolving any value of the ballot box. 

Any student of history knows that at least several of the states that agreed to join the Union agreed only under the understanding that they would have the right to secede

Lincoln, on whose Bible Obama will swear what little commitment such a person could bring to this nation, was the actor who could destroy the Republic on the condition that 600,000 Americans would die. Lincoln did not speak for the Founders, and he knew it. And the Obama White House, it turns out, does not speak for anybody except the international bankers.

How dare the White House to suggest that the Constitution of the United States gives them the authority to respond to citizens in this way, as if they were subjects pleading for alms from a Leviathan government and at the same time urged to be content that the favor has been denied.

This nation was founded on the principles outlined by Jefferson who, unlike Lincoln, was a Founder, declaring that the people forming a government were:

“deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

If this letter isn’t proof that this country needs a major political and structural overhaul, how many more pieces of evidence will be required?

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:03 | 3147193 nmewn
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+1 JR

I saw that too in the response John got...that word again, democracy. Approved (apparently) by our "constitutional law professor president".

So how is this centralized federal democracy thingy working out now that the republic consisting of individual states has been transformed into it?

Senators are no longer placed in DC to look after the INDIVIDUAL STATES RIGHTS as they are now popularly elected to pander to the citizenry for re-election. Once there, they cut their backroom deals to enrich themselves by bilking said citizens of their labor/money...and come out millionaires.

Stupid democratic sheeple.

The very first act of government (formed under this constitution) is in fact, self perpetuation...but that has never precluded us from putting a stop to it or changing it.

This is another natural right that no piece of paper or government can ever give or take away at its leisure. Rights don't come from ANY government, they can only be acknowledged, restricted or ignored by it.

To think otherwise is to say the Founders themselves had no right to rebel and form another in the first place.

One can only assume civics is not taught anymore in the "government factory schools" ;-)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 15:33 | 3147378 centerline
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Civics is no longer taught in public schools - at least in my area.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:31 | 3147449 knukles
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Nope.  All sorts of LBGT, Rastafarian, unequal precursors to hate, respect for the height impaired criminally insane and euthanasia, optimal redistribution of resources and wealth, the evils of capitalism evils of free markets, sanctity of government, disrepute of ethics and moral standards as embodied in philosophical considerations, inappropriateness of philosophy, dangers of lacrosse and high diving, respect for gender equality, right of every person to get a job from the government, application for EBT cards, public haranguing, responsibility to protect, loafing and narcissism.
Lots of additional great classes.
All supported by innumerable administrators who effectively do naught, the teachers unions and non performance based compensation all supported by upwardly rigged property taxes and fees never agreed to by the electorate collected at the point of a spear.
Additional funding provided by the federal gubamint reallocating  resources to ensure the dogma of left leaning overly large government meets with universal indoctrinated approval of the mindless drones passed through said conforming institutions.
But nope, not a fucking civics class in sight.

(Wouldn't want to teach anybody about those subversive documents like the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights now, would we? Or just civil behavior like please and thank you.)

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 17:24 | 3147527 RockyRacoon
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Had dinner with a couple and their 8th grade daughter the other night.  Daughter was talking about school and I asked if they teach "Civics" like when I was in grade school.  I described what we were taught.  She was clueless on any of the particulars of the course. She says no, but they call it Social Sciences.  I was afraid to ask just what was being taught.  I was trying to stay civil.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 15:28 | 3147361 Afrispaans
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"A long and bloody civil war that vindicated that principle..." So does this mean that if the South had won, the right to secede would have been "vindicated"? This is an essentially Maoist view of the use of force to define morals. Or shocking English. Doubleplusungood. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 18:14 | 3147609 S.N.A.F.U.
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Might makes right, bitchez!  Spread the word -- Obama says it's so!  And he's proven it too:  Did he have you assassinated?  Then you're a terrorist!  QED

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:06 | 3147016 JohnG
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I did get one:

 

From: The White House <info@messages.whitehouse.gov>
Date: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM
Subject: Petition Response: Our States Remain United

 

 


Petition Response: Our States Remain United

By Jon Carson, Director of the Office of Public Engagement

Thank you for using the White House's online petitions platform to participate in your government.

In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.

But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.

Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."

Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.

So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."

Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideas and share more of your own.

Tell us what you think about this response and We the People.

Stay Connected

Stay connected to the White House by signing up for periodic email updates from President Obama and other senior administration officials.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:37 | 3147130 JR
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The great H.L. Mencken explained that Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address said the soldiers sacrificed their lives “to the cause of self-determination --- government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish from the earth.”

From Mencken: “It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people to government themselves.”

In his first inaugural address Thomas Jefferson said: “If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve this Union or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left to combat it.”

When New England Federalists attempted to secede 15 years later, Jefferson said:

“if any state in the Union will declare that it prefers separation…to a continuance in the union…I have no hesitation in saying, ‘Let us separate.’”

If Jefferson had been present at Gettysburg when Lincoln was speaking and had stood up to say this, Lincoln would have had him shot; it would have been just one more.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 02:26 | 3148381 AustriAnnie
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JR,

Back in the early days of ZeroHedge, you said something that pissed me off. Damned if i remember what it was.

But you are beginning to win me over.

Keep at it. Carry on!

+1 to you and all the ZH "old timers" who never cease to amaze me. 

P.S. I have some issues with Jefferson and the Barbary wars (Tripoli) which I'm still trying to work out. But I'll pick Jefferson over Lincoln anyday....

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:13 | 3147432 SAT 800
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Along and bloody war that proved if you're stupid enough the government will bullshit you into shooting other people to force them to be tax slaves too. Which is all the damn thing was about in the first place; the end-all and be-all of government, then, now, and for-evermore; the right to collect taxes from people who would otherwise be free of your particular thievery.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 03:27 | 3148437 Rick Blaine
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Are you really a "John G.?"

...or is that a Memento reference?

...or both?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:32 | 3146972 adr
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Did the White House ever respond to the succession petitions or any of the other petitions that really matter?

Or did the joke of a leader only respond to petitions that are obvious jokes.

I'm sure we could get over 25k signatures for a petition to have Obama prove he really is Superman and jump off the top of the Washington Monument and fly.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:08 | 3147017 JohnG
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See above.  Got this last night.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:32 | 3146974 Spastica Rex
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Make believe. The American way.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:37 | 3146976 Darth Raider
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"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force."

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:40 | 3146981 adr
adr's picture

"The ability to earn a dollar through work is insignificant next to the power of the farce"

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:16 | 3147026 francis_sawyer
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May the schwartz be with you...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:12 | 3147088 JohnnyBriefcase
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I see what you did there.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:12 | 3147090 HedgeHammer
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Yeah sounds more like DARK HELMET to me.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:38 | 3146978 adr
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We might not be able to build The Death Star, but I'm sure we could slap some wings and a few rocket engines on a Winnebago.

Or maybe we could build a fake town with cardboard cutout people to fool the IMF.

In the spirit of Mel Brooks:

THE NIGGER'S THE PRESIDENT???

Blazing Saddles on cable just isn't the same without the racism.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:41 | 3146979 francis_sawyer
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I know ~ we could pay the $850 quadrillion pricetag by minting 1,850 trillion dollar platinum coins... Sadly ~ I'm goy, so I'm out of the running to be czar of this operation...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:43 | 3146986 adr
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But you know they'd build it using union labor. The first time they fire up the main gun, the entire thing would explode.

Not to worry though. The first rule of government work, why build one when you can have two for twice the price.

Ok, I'm done for the day.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:27 | 3147444 SAT 800
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"Since we don't fave the funds to do it right the first time; it's lucky we have plenty of funds to do it over again"; this was considered merely standard wisdom when I worked on the Minuteman 1 project.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:29 | 3147041 TerminalDebt
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By my math 850 Quadrillion is 850,000 Trillion. But you must be using Ben Bernanke Math

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:40 | 3146982 caimen garou
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what a crock, ok lets get luke skywalker,spock, captian kirk,007, and the moon raker team on it and pay for it with some trillion dollar coins with O's face on it! Oh and while we're at it, free tang for everyone that opens a new checking account at jpm.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:01 | 3147009 Magically Delicious
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0.25% interest PLUS tang?  Sign me up...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:40 | 3146983 Meatballs
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Let the hate flow through you Bitchez!

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:44 | 3146988 lifetide
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We built the magnum cost international space station on the promise that it was to be utilized for research.. Nano manufacturing, near zero chemistry, topographical studies, etc.. what we got was a political PR platform, a execise gymnasium with fancy treadmills and bicycles .. and a mini-classroom for bilingual language and diversity study. Even space is not immuned to attracting suckers.

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:45 | 3146990 djrichard
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MMTers are not the the demons you're looking for.

A principle of chartalism/MMT is to (a) inject currency into people's hands and (b) to drain the currency so that it doesn't end up in asset inflation. 

And this is how spending by the Fed Gov works.  But where the Fed Gov could be spending (a) on work programs, it chooses not to do so, so we get more of (a) going into food stamps instead. And the Fed Reserve has broken (b) by monetizing the debt, essentially re-injecting the drained currency back into the bankers hands.

Post-chartalism, LoL.  Us MMTers might actually want to adopt that :-)

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:49 | 3146992 Rainman
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Planet D.C. has definetely earned all the mockery it continues to accumulate. Embarrassing.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:47 | 3146993 tooriskytoinvest
Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:00 | 3147006 ItchyBeard
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Meh. Obumma will just sign another executive order preventing all of that from happening.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:50 | 3146997 PUD
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I hope they are smart enough to fly the probe to the outer reaches of the sun at night when it's not as hot.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:51 | 3146998 blindman
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it is time we tightened our collective van
allen belt and got to work. we could create
so much wealth, a universe full of it, and
we could do it with our current debt money system.
the trick is to hold the note on the debt or
as it is export the debt to the far reaches of
space, the beginning of the universe. out there
everywhere are potential debtors to support our
virtual and contrived debt notes. the problem is
that the light we see from billions of years past,
that creates our present moment, is an artifact
of present moments from times long gone. it follows
that at this present moment here we can know that
in the far reaches of space there are "currently"
evolved systems and beings and we can make statistical
estimates on how many there are. all we need to do is
assign them loans and debts and hold the notes as
legal tender down here to be used for liquidity
for the production of infrastructure as we see fit
and necessary to greet them when they finally show up.
and reach out programs also. when they show up we simply
hand them the bill. they might not pay it but then
we could forgive the debt, no harm-no foul, and they
might not kill us all. maybe they would be interested
in our drone technology, that could bring in a few space
dollars?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:53 | 3146999 Flakmeister
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You guys are thinking about this the wrong way...

Borrow the money, build the Death Star, and then threaten to fry anyone that refuses to declare a debt jubilee....

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:56 | 3147003 shovelhead
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Once you get a Wookie in the WH, anything is possible.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:16 | 3147025 ramacers
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check. that's where we're at. how depressin'.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:56 | 3147004 Flakmeister
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BTW the way, it is stuff like James Webb telescope that define H. Sapiens highest level of intellectual acheivment....

http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/about.html

It is truly an international affair...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 11:57 | 3147005 toady
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I told my kids I wanted a. Death Star for Christmas. I didn't get one.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:03 | 3147007 Cursive
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A Modest Proposal:  Building a Death Star?  You know we live in a banana republic when the executive branch responds to Swiftian satire.  Sad times.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:01 | 3147008 blindman
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Congressionial Disclosure Studies Alien Moon Bases
Years of Doctored Data, Video and Photos Disclosed to Congress
.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/09/congressionial-disclosure-studie...
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By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

" Discussions of alien moon bases and videos of structures on the dark side of the moon aren’t new. That congress is investigating, not only the bases themselves but three decades or more of continually doctored data from NASA and defense space projects is news
..Last week, an unusual story was published by World News Tomorrow, alleging that crop circles were created by energy weapons in orbit, systems that were hacked." ..

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:19 | 3147022 WTFx10
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Sorry for going off topic but that site is full Shit. They will censor comments of their readers yet let some of the hacks that write for them post any fiction they can think of. Veterans WHO do NOT support Free Speech .

 

On 12/1/2012 5:11 PM, jimwdean@aol.com wrote:

 

Submitted on 2012/12/01 at 4:02 am | In reply to xxxxxx

"I believe you just want to have your junk read, I believe you are a fake, I believe VT is soiling the site by posting your drivel." (my comment)
I believe

If you don't like material you don't have to read anymore of it...like not buying a newspaper, watching a TV show...or a channeal anymore.

I don't have cable for example. But I don't rant and rave about what I don't like about them in the comment section of someone's article.

VT does not censor our writers which we choose to present a wide variety of material to our readers. We only have a handful of people who act like you. So a case could be made that you are soiling the site.

If you don't like something that is just fine...but if I see any more of this we will flush all of your comments (a one button push) and block your ISP.

Have fun commenting, disagreeing and debating.

Thanks,

Jim Dean, VT

My reply " VT does not censor our writers" You will just censor your readers comments if you do not agree with them?
 You won't have to worry about me commenting anymore on VT.

 

His reply:

You clicked the terms of service agreement that you agreed to abide by it.

You didn't, and won't even man up. Read the terms of service.

You were rude, and you know it. Comment boards attract rude people, especially the anonimity. That is what whe have the terms of service so the rules aren't made by the commenters.

You are welcome to start your own web site and run your comment boards as you like, as long as you do all the work.

Our comment boards always have lots of disagreement. We just don't have time for obnxious people. They are not worth it.

Trying growing up a bit.

You are welcome to comment just like everybody else, but if you are rude to our people we will throw your ass out, like you should be. This is our house. We built it, and you are a welcome guest until you take a crap on the front lawn. They you are no longer welcome.

95% of our comment people have this figure out, the rest don't, and they don't rule.

" VT does not censor our writers" You will just censor your readers comments if you do not agree with them?
 You won't have to worry about me commenting anymore on VT.

 

My reply:

Why did you feel the need to reply to my reply and insult me,"attract rude people, man up, obnoxious people,try growing up a bit?"
My response was very calm and I did not insult you. I asked a simple question about censorship and you felt the need to insult me? Who is the child now?

 I told you I will not be commenting on your fake writers anymore. Why did you not just leave it at that? You act like a woman who always has to get the last word in? "Man up" honey.

   The web is a large place and I can comment about VT and your fake writers on other websites that don't believe in censorship and believe in freedom of the press and post a link to the article. Using another of your insulting comments we can call it crapping on the side of your lawn.
   Or as you suggest, I could build my own websites by registering these names , veteranstodaycomments.com, veteranstodaycomments.net, veteranstodaycomments.info which would show up on any google search looking for your site. But that would cost me money and your small group of fiction writers aren't worth it.

Please Mrs. Dean in my first reply I assured you I will not be posting anymore comments about the fake writers that you want to live in your house,or spoon in your bed and their made up bullshit. (that is a mans word not "crap" )
Its a shame too because 97% of your writers are very good to bad you could not hire them all with those excellent skills.

So lets leave it at that.
 Thanks

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:32 | 3147044 disabledvet
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this is my idea of "prepping for the End of Days" now that you mention it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muMcWMKPEWQ

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:39 | 3147135 blindman
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tom waits,diamond in your mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfy_vZpItGw
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comment: everything and everyone is full of shit,
that is nature's way of perpetuating itself.
it is a charge thing, a gender thing and an ongoing
attraction repulsion problem, it is not personal
but universal.
you have to look past it for the corresponding
"diamond". in english the corresponding word
might be "grace"? imho
.
Van Morrison - Tupelo Honey - Live with great solo by Pee Wee Ellis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5GMHzPeEyA
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Crazy Love - Ray Charles & Van Morrison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyCAZRKXaQk
.
Van Morrison - And It Stoned Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX8nAZftZL4
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they have turned the world into a collapsing clown colony from hell,
don't take it personally or seriously or let it get you down.
.
Van Morrison - Days like this (No Prima Donna) - live 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDnQ_54y8pg

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 09:06 | 3148558 tip e. canoe
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they have turned the world into a collapsing clown colony from hell,
don't take it personally or seriously or let it get you down.

agreed, duff and his boys are playing a game of "spook me once, spook me twice".
you probably said something that went off script (which should give you a clue).

if you read it with discernment, VT will give you a proper lesson of how the entire internet (at least the one that focuses on politics, economics, "news" & society) has become a giant disinformation war. 

it's up to each of us to flip the script...or better yet, close the book and start a new one.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 11:39 | 3148701 blindman
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i think you are on to something here !

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 14:39 | 3149065 tip e. canoe
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on that note, check out this comment on VT (sorry for the length):

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/06/the-despicable-washington-pest/

Final lesson
For systematically decoding Propaganda

As prior stated, the “Propaganda Man” often uses simple formulas to inject and sale misinformation or lies. However, by understanding the methods applied, most people can encode their “agendas or actions”. As stated in prior comments, “actions” are desired most often by small groups, however, to implement such action requires the services of the “Propaganda Man” as to create and sell “lies and deception”, or problems of sort, and thereby facilitating these actions for implementation. So continuing, take note of the simple equations listed below.

1+1=2, 2+2=4, 4+4=8, 5+5=10, 6+6=12, 7+7=14, 8+8=16, 9+9=18, 10+10=20, 1+1=2, 2+2=4, 4+4=8, 5+5=10, 6+6=12, 7+7=14, 8+8=15, 9+9=18, 10+10=20, 1+1=2, 2+2=4, 4+4=8, 5+5=10.

At first note, you might believe all equations above are true, but after some observation you will discover false answers hidden within truths. As shown above, 8+8=15 is not true. Now, if some observed such error and ask for correction, sometime later, you might observe this same mistake repeated again. Now and after, ask yourself, was this truly some mistake or is the “Propaganda Man” trying to sell the idea that 8+8=15 is true? Read further.

Now given the above basic example, one can easily make these formulas “slightly” more difficult to process, so some observers might overlook hidden false information’s within truths once again. However, these are not “hidden errors” to the “Propaganda Man”, it’s an applied technique for selling “misinformation and lies”, and periodically repeated. And such techniques are used to embed lies and misinformation into your mind to produce involuntary responses both associative and reactionary, versus using normal though and thinking to process information. Observe below.

1+N=2, (N=1), 2+N=4, (N=2), 3+N=6, (N=3), 4+N=8, (N=4), 5+N=10, (N=5), 6+N=12, (N=6), 7+N=14, (N=7), 8+N=15, (N=8), 9+N=18, (N=9), 10+N=20, (N=10), 11+N=22, (N=11), 12+N=24, (N=12), 13+N=26, (N=13).

The same method was used again, and likewise to sell the idea that 8+8=15, and thus applying 8+N=15, (N=8) as the new method. The complexity increases slightly, but the method remains, and such methods are used in written materials as to slowly embed involuntary responses. With the idea of creating this reactionary response to certain subject matters, versus using subjective thinking and reasoning to form conclusions. Observe sample formulation as shown below.

Iran has nuclear weapons, or 8 + 8 = 15.
Iran has ongoing nuclear weapons program, or 8 + N = 15, (N = 8).
Iran has nuclear weapons program, and will produce nuclear weapon soon, or 8 + N = 15, (N > 7, N < 9).

All above, was used to show how the complexity is slightly increased, but idea remains the same, trying to sell you, 8 + 8 = 15?

So how does one determine the “agenda or desired actions” when observing programmatic disinformation and delivery systems? One method is to document all statements that appear to be misleading or false in nature and having an understanding that false information’s are often hidden within truths or what appears to be popular truths. After some time you will observe the false information’s to be repetitive, or often repeated in various forms through materials, as shown above. And remember, such misinformation’s are “action” driven, and can be complied and analyzed. You can learn real truths through their deceptions, by analyzing misinformation they present, and periodically studying the result as one.

And remember, when stones are thrown into the pond, take note of the distortions in the outward ripples, because such distortions are often repetitive and connective.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 17:24 | 3152112 blindman
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i don't know if you saw this so ...you might appreciate.
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"It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear. While such an economy may produce a sense of seeming prosperity for the moment, it rests on an illusionary foundation of complete unreliability and renders among our political leaders almost a greater fear of peace than is their fear of war."
Speech to the Michigan legislature, in Lansing, Michigan (15 May 1952), published in General MacArthur Speeches and Reports 1908-1964 (2000) by Edward T. Imparato, p. 206

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31417.htm
The Power Principle
Video Documentary

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:01 | 3147073 Curt W
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That site is so full of BS.

Last year they had a story about drilling a hole under the crust of the earth and setting off a nuke to cause an earthquake that caused a tsnuami that destroyed a power plant to poison the US with fallout

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:08 | 3147083 Flakmeister
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The tipoff was "World News Today"....

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:42 | 3147146 blindman
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you mean that didn't happen?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:10 | 3147021 alentia
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Something to make me smile on Saturday morning. It is encouraging that someone at WH still have a sence of humor.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:15 | 3147024 bigkahuna
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"The Administration does not support blowing up planets."

 

This administration and most others before it are very interested in blowing up planets. Look at what they have accomplished on this one so far!!!

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:32 | 3147039 TWSceptic
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They prefer blowing up people (with drones).

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:24 | 3147108 stacking12321
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Those aren't people, those are terrorists.

Everyone within the blast radius is automatically assumed to be a terrorist.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:28 | 3147036 Smegley Wanxalot
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This is poor foresight on behalf of the Obama admin.

Once China and Russia start building their Death Stars, we will have no choice but to join the Death Star Race, but by that time we will need to play catch-up and we will be screwed.

MAD = Mutually Assured Deathstars.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:28 | 3147037 Drachma
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I thought the space station was to find out if ants could be trained to sort tiny screws in space.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:36 | 3147048 the grateful un...
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this is how lunacy becomes policy.

first the pitch. promote the idea as a peaceful and universal solution : the death star is to be aimed at threats from outer space, most likely asteroids which might collide with earth.

second the sell : encourage the rest of the world to buy us treasury intergalactic war bonds. now if a country doesn't buy these bonds, then they cannot do business with us (trade wars, not space wars, buy em or else) now you are either with us or against us, okay?

third: bait and switch: the us keeps most of the high end jobs, and all the technology, though of course if they (china) steals some of it we look the other way.

fourth: the coalition of the willing against the poor and unwilling nations who did not help build the shield. death star becomes drone star on steroids. the policy of preemptive bombing of rogue asteroids suffers mission creep. look out below...

fifth: the criticism, is death star the trillion dollar border fence with mexico in space.??. answer: yes, but the border fence works, illegal immigration is down... counter : but isn't that because the economy collapsed.

no, next question, yes, how totally awesome is the death star? well let me tell you..

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:12 | 3147091 Decolat
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That's it, rename the proposal the Imperial Drone Star and and Barry can't refuse.

 

Or, build a smaller version, still expensive mind you, but load that shit up with the freshly stockpiled 1.8 billion hollow points. That may be not enough to destroy a planet, but it's enough to destroy the dignity of a once great nation now on life/death support.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:36 | 3147049 JLee2027
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We're working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it.

Did they really say that??? What a joke.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:14 | 3147094 centerline
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Yeah, that was a funny one.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 12:59 | 3147068 xtop23
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I think Frank Herbert had it right. The only way we don't destory ourselves is colonization of other planets / galaxies. In theory, the "Diaspora" would cure a lot of problems. Resources, overpopulation, differing ideologies, et al would all be addressed.

Of course that would mean Ming, Skeletor, Moriarty, Kahn, and the Kingpin would have to give up on thoughts of complete and utter domination of the human race.

P.S. Rosebud was Kane's sled.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:30 | 3147115 centerline
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This was similar to my thought on the matter.

For shits and giggles, let's first make the leap that perpetual growth is just what we are built to do and we will simply cycle until we kill ourselves.  What would be the best use of our efforts within such ponzi systems?  Well, glad you asked...

We should be aiming all of our efforts towards science and figuring out to get off this rock and onto another.  Idolize science.  Reshape communities around critical R&D, transportation, training, construction, etc.  World efforts aimed at breaking down critical barriers necessary for our leap into the stars.  A whole new productive economy geared to build instead of waste and destroy.  Aggregating resources for the common good.  Building things to last, so that we can obtain more materials elsewhere and build more.  An entirely different paradigm that fits right in with the nature of our existence.  Even the "owners" of this planet can play along.  What better sell than the potential of owning an entire solar system elsewhere!

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:01 | 3147177 xtop23
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The only problem I have with that is a continuation / increase of the collectivist ideology that such a pursuit would require. That presupposes that the human condition is capable of such an altruistic pursuit, as well as government being capable of managing such an endeavor. As we all know, government is a notorious waster of capital, labor, and resources. People are not typically given to largesse when it's their own finances at risk and the benefits might not come to fruition in their lifetimes. 

Like most things that must be done to right the ship, it will only be when there is no other option that such a thing might occur.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 15:25 | 3147355 centerline
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One would need to set this up for profit.  Mineral rights on other planets (unobtainium, lol).  Expansion of empires.  Exploitation of everything human - the same approach that turns the gears of war.

Probably would need at least 2 groups competiting for galactic conquest - lol.  Shouldn't be hard considering how well our masters are at divide and conquer.

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:03 | 3147075 The Reich
Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:08 | 3147081 Curt W
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Someone in the government said "we are working hard to reduce the deficit"

The farce is with US

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:10 | 3147085 Piranhanoia
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My light sabre is powered by plasma,  (voommmm  voooshhh)  not laser

Excuse me, but it seems I am going to need some plasma,  I've nipped my leg

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:18 | 3147099 jplotinus
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The Death Star petition response reveals much and hides more. All and all it is a far more important channel for citizen participation on a quintessential topic than may be apparent at first notice.

An exercise in word interpretation might be useful, as would further comment from many more citizens.

My approach to commentary centers on the setting of a cost for the Death Star at $850,000,000,000,000,000. While the response incorporates ZH's cost estimate (kudos to Tylers), it neither confirms nor denies that US weapons developers have not similarly done a cost estimate as a part of a larger developmental project.

That is interesting.

What we do know is that on 9/11/01, a capacity for near instantaneous, complete and silent annihilation of a 7 building skyscraper complex was demonstrated. I make no claims as to the specific identity of WHO did 9/11. I do make specific claims about WHAT happened to the site:

•Two 110 story buildings were turned largely to dust and very small remnant debris components in <10 seconds each, where the time of destruction is based on known seismic data, witness reports and, to a lesser degree, tv images and the lack of audio confirmation of a collapse from structural failure.
•One 22 story building was utterly annihilated to such a degree that it warranted next to no mention or commentary at all, let alone official reporting.
•One 46 story building was annihilated hours later on the basis of pre-knowledge that was nonetheless explained away as not being pre-knowledge.

Once again, I am not making a claim about WHO did that.

I do claim the existing and demonstrated ability to selectively aim, target and pinpoint that degree of annihilation, with very little kinetic signature but with a great deal of amplified directed free energy signature confirms Death Star technology is already here.

Put it this way: if the world's tallest skyscrapers (when built) can be destroyed in 10 seconds without damaging the glass dome of the World Financial Center located across the street, how long would it take to destroy an aimed at planet using the same weapon?

Calculations of the time to destroy a planet by those who are mathematically inclined are welcomed. Please use a weight of 500,000 tons of high grade structural steel for each of the Twin Towers as one of your assumptions. Please use negligible impact on paper (little or no burning) as a factor to be considered in the type of destructive mechanism. Please consider synergistic effects, such as lubricants, in assessing energy consumption requirements if you are compelled to raise the meme of required energy in your calculation.

Finally, for those having security clearances, please consider whether the Nuremberg Principle mandating disobedience of illegal orders trumps the "state secret" and the "national security" coercive tactics and measures that are used to thwart whistleblowers. In other words, figure out a way to deliver us from weaponry that can destroy this and other planets. Remaining silent is not cool. Find a legally effective way.

Thanks in advance.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:42 | 3147145 krispkritter
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They had the same flaw in that a single air/space craft was able to destroy them...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:11 | 3147223 FeralSerf
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As whstlblwr in post #3147114 above has so eloquently stated, the only ones with the technical abilities to pull off such a stunt are G_d's Chosen People, the Master Race Jews.  Goyim, (and camel-fucking, towel-head Arabs of course), are much too stupid to do such a thing.  GCPs did invent the atom and hydrogen bombs.  Why wouldn't they the the "usual suspects" for an operation such as this?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 20:58 | 3147883 FeralSerf
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I see whstlblwr's post #3147114 has been removed by the ZH PTB along with the appurtenant posts.  No loss.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 09:38 | 3148561 tip e. canoe
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very astute observation jp.  was wondering how & why that petition got 25k sigs.   now it begins to make sense.   very duff-esque actually.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:23 | 3147109 news printer
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I love this game :p

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:30 | 3147119 windcatcher
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The age of humanitarian science (NASA) and peaceful exploration of the unknown in outer-space has ended, replaced by private exploration, at tax payer expense, and exploitation of discovery of anything of value. Discovery and conquering is empire!

 

If there are higher intelligent species in the Universe, they will never allow low life greed motivated humans with nuclear weapons into outer space.

 

Humans are not philosophically advanced yet and are still barbarians with technical gadgets.

 

If we brought the multinational banksters to Justice and reclaimed science for the good of humanity; we might advance as an acceptable specie to peacefully explore space.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:39 | 3147136 Bansters-in-my-...
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Hey Paul....

Do you really think the "goverment" tells you the truth about what they want...???

 

Ahaaa hahaha  haaaa hahaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhha ha

Too funny.

 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 13:55 | 3147179 Gift Whores
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If you build it, they will come.

The White House clearly does not realize the full potential of the economic farce.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:06 | 3147211 epwpixieq-1
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"The Administration does not support blowing up planets.", just to add what has been left out: " ... but it DOES support blowing up the the wealth accumulated by the hard working citizens of any planet, as long as we have the power to do that."

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:12 | 3147224 Schacht Mat
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Submit the petition again - only this time call it by its proper name - The Debt Star

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:14 | 3147234 wilijones
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The Moon is a Death Star - didnt you read the David Icke?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:41 | 3147282 FeralSerf
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When the Moon's orbital decay is over in a few billion years and it comes crashing down to Earth, it will then surely be a Death Star.  I doubt if I'll be here to see it.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:42 | 3147285 old naughty
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But, but...they don't fire laser at us.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:25 | 3147252 Smuckers
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I think we have to work in baby steps. 

Maybe a petition to put Michelle Obama in that Princess Leia outfit?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:41 | 3147279 blindman
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baby steps indeed, exactly !

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:43 | 3147286 retiringteach
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nice

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 14:47 | 3147291 jonjon831983
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One must question the sudden pop up of "Whitehouse petitions".  Did we ever get so many mentions before the elections and the Texas Seccession?

 

Not sure.

 

Anyways, here's one they could petition: "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he’s convinced his uncle’s assassination wasn’t work of 1 person"

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/robert-f-kennedy-says-hes-convinc...

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 15:15 | 3147340 q99x2
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As long as I and others don't pay taxes, (because of reasons that are legal according to the IRS), I say build it. Nobody needs to pay taxes. The FED has proven that it can fund itself.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:29 | 3147441 spanish inquisition
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Step 1. Begin minting 852,000 1 Trillion dollar platinum coins.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:47 | 3147480 sitenine
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"The Administration does not support blowing up planets." - Then why are they blowing up ours?

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 16:58 | 3147500 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The made in U.S.A. Millenium Falcon caught in the tractor beam of the Debt Star.

I see all sorts of artistic possibilities on this for the resident artist here.

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 17:57 | 3147578 supafuckinmingster
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Obama phone!

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 17:59 | 3147584 WhiteNight123129
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Chartalism = CHARLATAN-ism 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:28 | 3147703 Mi Naem
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I knew Jack Kennedy.  Jack Kennedy was a President of mine. 

And you, Sir Bama, are no Jack Kennedy. 

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 19:35 | 3147716 Lloyd_Xmas
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What a foolish question? They should have said "Death Drone" not Death Star!

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 03:28 | 3148438 Rick Blaine
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I gotta admit...

The third reason not to build a Death Star is pretty solid.

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 10:46 | 3148627 AnAnonymous
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Emperor Palatatine to be re incarnated. For this to be, he had to be incarnated.
When? Oh, yes, in a fantasy movie.

'Americans', when fantasy is no longer distinguished from reality...

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 03:23 | 3150071 akak
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Chinese Citizens: when roadsides are not longer distinguished from toilets ...

Sun, 01/13/2013 - 23:44 | 3149875 TheEmperor
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I just happen to have the construction plans for just such a death star.

My apprentice Darth Bernanke purchased it with some fiat credits.

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