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Boehner Responds: "The American People Do Not Support Raising Debt Ceiling Without Reducing Spending"

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You heard the president's "we are not a deadbeat nation" speech (transcript coming shortly). Here is Boehner's response. Looks like nobody is rising above anything very fast.

From the Speaker's site

WASHINGTON, DC – House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) issued the following the statement in response to President Obama’s comments today regarding the debt limit.


“The American people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. The consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so too are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. Without meaningful action, the debt will continue to act as an anchor on our economy, costing American jobs and endangering our children's future. The House will do its job and pass responsible legislation that controls spending, meets our nation's obligations and keeps the government running, and we will insist that the Democratic majority in Washington do the same.”


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Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:46 | 3151150 busted by the b...
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I think he will lose this one.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:54 | 3151197 Stackers
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Boner: "We must cut 1% from the increase in spending"

Obobo: "We would kill old women and children if we cut 1% from the increase in spending"

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:56 | 3151210 TheSilverJournal
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Yes, promise those spending year.

Fiscal Cliff 2 in the works.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:57 | 3151214 THX 1178
Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:07 | 3151275 lunaticfringe
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Citizens are worried whether or not Katie Couric had cosmetic surgery or how she looks without makeup on. That's what the American people are focused on.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:10 | 3151317 trav777
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did repugnicons suddenly find fiscal conservatism after how many years now of trillion annual war costs?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:58 | 3151597 smlbizman
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yeah we want spending start cutting a few wars, a few less plastic surgery procedures for those female pigs on the hill..looking at you nancy, harry, debbie, ...a few less union gravy trains, etc....but i thinks they may be thinking differently....

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 16:56 | 3152018 in4mayshun
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Don't get sucked into the Democrat/Republican debate. It's a lose-lose proposition. There are globalist scum and Patriots.....period! (Most of them being the former)

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 23:20 | 3153058 secret_sam
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Not exactly, but they sure want you to think so.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:17 | 3151366 aint no fortuna...
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simple solution barry - cut D.E.F.E.N.S.E. and piss off both the dims (for cutting) and the repugs (for it being defense). But we the sheep will be happy.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:20 | 3151376 Chupacabra-322
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Jeez, another delusional Psycopath/Sociopath CRIMINAL.  Hey Criminal, The American People aren't falling for your PsyOp Political Therater antics anymore.  Just a matter of time before you arrested. 

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:51 | 3151553 WarHorse
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The average American is no smarter than a Labrador Retriever .. the vast majority of the American people have fallen for this idiot hook, line & sinker

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:59 | 3151601 smlbizman
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evidently you have never owned a lab.....

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 16:59 | 3152031 in4mayshun
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Agreed. Comparing my dog to a typical US moron is insulting to my dog.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:57 | 3151215 Sands8oo
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Typical weak retort from Boehner as per the script.



Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:59 | 3151227 hedgeless_horseman
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Don't you love the theatre?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:17 | 3151367 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Don't you love the theatre?

We were railroaded into purchasing the full-season ticket package.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:54 | 3151199 redpill
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How about we don't raise the debt ceiling at all and start acting like responsible adults instead of movie villains.


Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:59 | 3151224 FL_Conservative
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That's way too fucking adult-like, redpill.  I can't even believe you would suggest such a thing!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:25 | 3151387 SamAdams
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Refrain from sending our tax money to maintain occupations used to further enrichen the Bankers and their trans-national minions.  We know why every now and again, AlQueda raises its flame, to justify keeping troops in the area (safe pipeline and poppy fields).  Opium wars in the early 1800's and opium wars now.  Greed never changes.

However, if we cut spending on defense, half of our currently employed would be affected.  Eisenhower was right, but the elite could care less.  Americans only exist to ensure the continued success of the banker's agenda.  We are the war machine.  The war machine may soon start the big one, considering its debt is world's greatest and Russia's is worlds least (for major power).  Hope the flock iready, because while grazed on i-gadgets, the overloards prepared using American tax money!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:11 | 3151324 trav777
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Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:53 | 3151244 cougar_w
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Where do they come up with this crap?

"The American people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending"

Whut the feck? Americans will have their spending or someone's head on a pole. Fact. And he knows it.

"The consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real"

Um ... real like unicorn shits?

"The House will do its job and pass responsible legislation that controls spending"

And then I suppose the entire House will line up to have their heads handed to them. That will be the day.

Translation: "I am not even close to serious today. Come back tomorrow."

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:23 | 3151401 Stoploss
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So.. How are all our min wage pion's doing with the 2% ( -25% "wealth effect" ) tax hike lately?

Freeloading video gamers want to know!

Careful shaking hands now.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:31 | 3151751 Panafrican Funk...
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I'd probably be doing better if Hot Pockets and Bagelfuls went on sale.  Holy fuck the price inflation.  

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:45 | 3151151 q99x2
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Not this again. How much ass can that guy kiss in a year. Oh ya; this is a new year.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3151237 azzhatter
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I wonder if boehner forgets whose cock is in his mouth from time to time. This jizzbag has been blowing everyone in DC for a long time

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:01 | 3151252 Renewable Life
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How the fuck did the GOP house not bury this whiny fuck, this is like watching a different movie with the same actors, over and over and over! JFC at least switch up the cast, if you want us to pretend along with you!

Cut spending!!!! Now I know your bullshitting Boner!! Your masters in the military complex and corporate service sectors, are going to chop your nuts off, if you even think about talking shit, about this?!!!?!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:15 | 3151253 Renewable Life
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GD double posts

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:46 | 3151153 TheAlchemist
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More mouthpiece speaking.

Congress creates the problem and then acts like they should get credit for "fixing" it.

There's a small part of me (<5%) that still wants to believe they'll do the right thing, but my cynical side has grown by leaps and bounds after seeing the gap between their words vs their actions.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3151238 a growing concern
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That hopeful, optimistic voice inside you? That guy is an idiot. The voice inside you that thinks we're totally fucked? Listen to that guy.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 16:52 | 3152011 tango
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Alchemist, I think many in Congress "know the score" and would like to do the right thing but they realize - as Ron Paul confessed - that we are too far gone. The GOP is terrified of media reaction (as if the media were balanced) so they're reduced to mouthing platitudes - "we need to cut.. get a handle on spending.. do something about entitlements.. get our finances in order, blah blah blah blah.

The situation cannot be fixed, especially by short term tricks. Charles Smith said it best when he described the situation as a widening gap between what has been promises and what can be delivered with tax receipts. 

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:46 | 3151154 Super Broccoli
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yeeeeeah ! you're the man !

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:47 | 3151158 Shizzmoney
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The American People hate all of you people, and really would wish that you and Obama would stop talking for all of us.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:11 | 3151331 Renewable Life
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I'm more of a realist, then a conspiracy theorist, but these assholes are doing everything they can these days, to play on ever paranoid bone in our bodies!!

The government is buying ammo by the semi truck load, while saying they are going to ban guns!

Executive orders for everything at this point!!

No jobs, no budgets, wars without end over seas, over taxation, inflationary monitary policies on crack cocaine!!!

At some point it stops being conspiracy theory and starts being reality!!!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 17:40 | 3152174 aerojet
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It is desperation--by 2020 there may not be any federal agents left to enforce all those gun laws or anything else.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:48 | 3151161 Snakeeyes
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Now let's see if you stand up for what you say!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:48 | 3151162 hedgeless_horseman
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The consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so too are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved.

He used the word consequences? 



Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:50 | 3151174's picture

The options are truth or consequences. Therefore we'll get the consequences.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:57 | 3151201 hedgeless_horseman
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Correct, until we reach the other side of the Platonic fold, then we should see real consequences.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:49 | 3151164 TooBearish
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Bullshite Boner  - gimme my 'bamaphone now bitch!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:49 | 3151166 905ozs
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Yeah, he wouldn't do Rothschild inc's bidding.
What a joke.
53cents of every tax $1 go to the military budget.
Yep, he creepy ass wouldn't want that.

War stimulates the the economy, who can we bomb into the stone age now?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:15 | 3151354 trav777
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we bombed Germany and Japan into the Space Age

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:49 | 3151167 Bay of Pigs
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Thank goodness we have people like John Boehner holding the fort down.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:50 | 3151171 Super Broccoli
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Let's answer to the question : is america a debtbeat nation ?

Well, let's see the options :

1. reduce the deficit, even more, reduce the debt ... and take money out of the economy = more problems

2. keeping on runing a huge deficit ... and paying more interest taking money out of the economy = more problems


So the answer is : since there is nothing we can do about it, america IS a debtbeat nation !


Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:39 | 3151778 Panafrican Funk...
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Assets vs. Liabilities:  we're currently at negative 29.5 trillion and counting.

Gross debt/GDP:  105.78% and counting.

If we didn't have unlimited printing, we'd be talking severe bond haircuts at this point.  The haircuts are instead being done via USD devaluation.  

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:42 | 3151789 Panafrican Funk...
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Another way of looking at it:  the $85 billion per month in QE?  That's a tax.  Our taxes are going up $1.02 trillion this year, not including the "fiscal cliff" tax resolution.  If we're not cutting spending by at least $1 trillion this year, then we haven't "approached this is a balanced way".  

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 23:23 | 3153066 secret_sam
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C'mon.  We're up-to-date on all our interest payments.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:50 | 3151173 deerhunter
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my lunch almost came back up  with "the House will  do its job and pass responsible legislation",  oh well one can always dream right????  We haven't had a budget in what,  3 years now? 

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:53 | 3151178 yogibear
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When will Boehner start crying and buckle into voting yes to removing the debt ceiling bill.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:56 | 3151181 otto skorzeny
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start by cutting defense you cocksucking warmongers. I see worthless Lockheed can't even get $500mil F-35s delivered on time. This will also delay Israel taking delivery of the ones the US bought them under the guise of a "military aid package"

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:59 | 3151220 Five8Charlie
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Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:01 | 3151242 otto skorzeny
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thanks-I caught my goof

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:02 | 3151255 insanelysane
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Give people stuff for free. Check.

Tax the crap out of wealthy people. Check.

Use military to create diversion and line pockets of defense contractors. Check.

Is this France or the US?  I am confused.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:51 | 3151182 Not Too Important
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A perfect place to post this.

Dubai may have gorgeous high-rise towers erected, but they never bothered to put in sewage systems. It's all removed by truck:

Poop trucks of Dubai

Nothing but shit everywhere. Apply the similarities to our government as you wish.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3151231 otto skorzeny
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they should put in sewers and then hire a bunch of overpaid AFSCME union streets and san employees to stand around and stare at them like here in the good old USofA.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 23:29 | 3153083 secret_sam
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Dubai's fine.  People only worry about the BIGGEST shitpile in the area.

So if you've got $1billion mall and $200million piles of shit to truck away, no one will really notice.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:51 | 3151184 ebworthen
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What weight does Boehner's response have since he folded so easily on the tax issue?


Obummer will push this to the n'th hour, the Demicans will accuse the Republicrats of starving children and vets and grandma and they will pass some stop-gap meaningless spend-more jizz fest of a bill that will reduce already taxed entitlements, raise taxes, and keep the gravy going to the bankers and the military/industrial complex.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:52 | 3151186 Squid Vicious
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blah blah blah... he will cave in again and go fishing in the Keys, just like last time

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:52 | 3151187 Nid
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So the MKT goes up when Barry says "no ransom" for Debt Increase, AND MKT goes up when Boehner demands ransom for Debt Increase? Perfect...

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:52 | 3151190 gjp
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I'm sure Obama will be happy to pretend to cut a trillion or so of spending over the next ten years, all back-end loaded, maybe add a little extra spending now with all the money they've saved.  That's obviously where this is going, can we dispense with the song and dance?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:55 | 3151193 CrashisOptimistic
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The real issue is March 31, when the present Continuing Resolution ends.  Obama is somewhat right that the debt ceiling increase pays for spending already done.  But what he doesn't say is that a CR lasting this long was part of the last debt ceiling raise in Aug 2011.

And so shall it be again.  The CR is about spending.  Not taxes.  Those are part of a budget, which we may never have again -- and certainly not in the next 70 days or so.

So this fight will be about the CR.  The last debt ceiling deal did 10 year spending projections and the CR conformed to what would comply with that 10 yr projection out to early 2013.  Now the next CR will have to comply with whatever the agreement is out to . . . I'd guess Dec 2014, past the next election.

And make no mistake on this.  Both sides will be very much aware that the party out of power usually gains seats in off year elections.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:07 | 3151296 Joe moneybags
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How many of us here at ZH, let alone the American people, know WTF the "Continuing Resolution" is?  How hard will it be to continue the CR?  (hint: as hard as my dick when looking at a picture of Janet Napolitano)

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:53 | 3151194 firstdivision
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Why would we need to redce spending as a condition to raise the debt ceiling? Oh that's right, so he can have more pork to spend on his interests.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:59 | 3151198 hampsterwheel
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the monetary system is an exponential system - (since it is issued by debt and debt has interest attached) - therefore the debt must grow - to shrink debt means to wipe out money - if you paid off the debt you would throw the world into a depression -

look at a national debt chart - what you are seeing is an exponential system - and like all exponential system the hockey stick at the end means the end - and you are there - if we doubled the debt in 6 years we will double it again in 3 - therefore by 2017 you will be facing a $30+ Trillion debt - so either two things will happen - they will eliminate the whole debt ceiling thing or they'll just fudge the numbers which they are doing anyway....

payback bitches...


Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:20 | 3151381 trav777
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um...when the growth rate stays level...if it doubled in 6 years, it will double again in 6

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:54 | 3151200 hampsterwheel
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"The American people don't support the raising of the debt cieling without spending cuts!" BUT WE"RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY - just like they don't support Obamacare, NDAA, GITMO, Patriot Act, arming Syrian islamists, gun control......

When are people going to wake the F'up and realize that it doesn't matter what the people want - that's not how oligarchy's work - and we have one nice oligarchy at work and guess what you're not it in... so shut the hell up, quit your bitchin, stay on the grid pay your taxes and march right down to the police station with your illegal weapons - you want to be a good citizen right?? sheep -

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:55 | 3151202 vote_libertaria...
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Smells like a deal is just about here.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:55 | 3151208 loveyajimbo
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Is it just me or do many cringe when the "Coward of Benghazi" spouts all those bald faced lies to the American people... does he really think they buy his bullshit?  Given the election, I guess maybe they do...


What's the latest on Benghazi being a rigged kidnapping that was supposed to have Obunga step in and save the day, just before the election??  If true, THAT should be impeachment material... eh??

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:56 | 3151211 Boilermaker
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Russel 2000 now down 0.01%.

Hang on...this is THE BIG ONE!  MARKET CRASH!!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:13 | 3151337 uncle reggie
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Meet the new crash, same as the old crash.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:57 | 3151213 earnulf
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So Boehner really thinks the Republican Controlled House can, in less than 30 calendar days, come up with a budget that can go to the Democratic Controlled Senate and pass, averting a default?

They should just sell the stuff these congresscritters are smoking, we'd make enough in one month to pay off the national debt, both declared and undeclared!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3151234 CrashisOptimistic
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Read my comment above.  Not budget.  Continuing Resolution.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:58 | 3151225 Joe moneybags
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Clearly, the American People do approve raising the debt ceiling without spending cuts. According to, it's been done "78 times since 1960 - 49 times under Republican presidents and 29 times under Democratic presidents."  How many spending cuts were enacted simultaneously with those debt ceiling increases?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:11 | 3151326 uncle reggie
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So, what do ya think bags - what % of people in this country understand what all this debt ceiling stuff means?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:59 | 3151226 lakecity55
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Fuck You, Boner.

Look at the number of known hard-core marxists in his administration. This is their Big Chance.

If you guys had any balls, you would vote Articles of Impeachment before he starts, on purpose, a revolution.


It won't pass the senate, but it would jam him up.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:59 | 3151229 Unstable Condition
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Yeah right, gotta keep the charade going as though something 'may' actually be done...pfft

Fucking establishment stooge.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 13:59 | 3151230 phoolish
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Very phunny.  Didn't he just vote for MORE spending less than 2 weeks ago.  Yep.



Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:08 | 3151309 uncle reggie
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Yeah, the Speaker is very agreeable to spending provided the spending is going to the right folks.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3151235 Hedgetard55
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Scotch vs. choom, which will win?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:06 | 3151282 RacerX
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like rock, paper, scissors; we need a 3rd party.

How about Meth? Or BathSalts maybe?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:16 | 3151358 LawsofPhysics
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I'd be happy with a second party.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3151240 TheMayor
Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:01 | 3151249 AnAnonymous
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The 'american' People wants to consume.

The rest and how the consumption is achieved, well, up to the servants of the 'american' People (aka the 'american' middle class) to deliver.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:26 | 3151414 Toolshed
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You relly need to work on your English. That spew made no sense at all. Your effectiveness as a Chinese Homeland Internet Troll (CHIT) is impaired by your poor grasp of the language.

I have a tool that will eliminate your problem by the way. It is right here in my pants. Just ask.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:02 | 3151256 LawsofPhysics
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where have I see this kabuki theater before....?   think... think...


Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:02 | 3151260 Super Broccoli
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i can't wait to hear this on the news :

"america goes bankrupt ! Their boom and world leadership was all fake after all and couldn't last, they're already back to the westerner farmers condition they should never have left" :-)


Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:04 | 3151269 Oldwood
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All that is required is that they "act" responsible, as they do nothing at all. Markets love it. Talk tough but do nothing to rock the boat.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:05 | 3151274 buzzsaw99
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just print the $ fuk the fed

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:11 | 3151301 IamtheREALmario
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Well, actually, I do not support increasing the debt ceiling... period. And I do not support an executive branch that can spend money without a budget approved by Congress. And I do not support the Federal Reserve's and its member banks' power to create fiat money out of thin air and give that same money to themselves in an effort to debase the currency and destroy savers. And, I do not support of corporate crony theft of assets where an interlocking criminal organization approves the looting of companies through interlocking board approval and country club deals. And I do not approve of executive orders and laws put onto the people that are contrary to the US constitution (which I kinda like) and have not gone through the Amendment Process. And I do not approve of wars and empire building, that kill our children and the innocent in foreign lands, especially wars for the benefit of the criminal crony population. And, I don not support the unequal application of law where the cronies are immune from all criminal prosecution and the people are controlled through it. And I do not support a fiat money slave state ... among other things.

The list of our "so called" leaders' sins is unending. I think it is about time that we substitute the word "cronies" for "elites". Elitist cronies love the word elite applied to them. It makes them feel special and above the population when in fact it is really just a brand of their criminal cronyism.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:32 | 3151752 SKY85hawk
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Obama proved he was paying attention in grade school civics!  Congress makes the spending and taxing plans.

The Executive Office carries out (executes) the laws of the land.

OBAMA: Well, Chuck, the issue here is whether or not America pays its bills. We are not a deadbeat nation. And so there's a very simple solution to this: Congress authorizes us to pay our bills.
     Now, if the House and the Senate want to give me the authority so that they don't have to take these tough votes,

/truth 'sarc not intended'

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:15 | 3151352 the grateful un...
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have to feel for JB, he can't speak for the American people, or a majority of his party in Congress. still he has to get up and there and negotiate with a serial compromise artist

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:19 | 3151380 Toolshed
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I feel only one thing for poor lil' JB......CONTEMPT!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:28 | 3151425 jjsilver
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Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:30 | 3151431 Venerability
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"The American People" now rate Congress lower than cockroaches, serial killers, and the bubonic plague.

Mr. Boehner has to stop getting all his information from Larry Kudlow, Liz Cheney, and all the same pollsters who predicted a landslide win for Ryan and Whatshisface.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:44 | 3151499 negative rates
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Talk about a career fall guy, who gets paid well too.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:53 | 3151565 Quinvarius
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Say something about fighting off gun grabbers.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:53 | 3151571 Buzz Fuzzel
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It does not matter what the American People support or do not support. Man up Boehner, be a leader. Tell the American People what you support and why. Call the President on his lies. Shutting the government down will not be the fault of Republicans if they demand spending cuts it will be the fault of the President for insisting on NO spending cuts.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 14:58 | 3151594 SmoothCoolSmoke
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OK, you want cuts, let's see if you can handle the cuts:

1. Cut the Defense budget to ZERO (about 25% of the Fed budget)

2. Cut Medicare to ZERO (about 24% of the Federal budget)

There, one the T-Pubs love, one the Dems love.

No pussy footing around....just do it, today.

Who's onboard?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:05 | 3151621 robertocarlos
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Wasn't he the guy who caved last week? Then he was re-elected. Put him on Oprah!

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:09 | 3151645 negative rates
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We tried to tell ya that he rose from the dead, but YOU didn't like that ending! 

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:11 | 3151652 Lord Koos
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WTF does Boner know or care about what "the American people want".

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:18 | 3151687 Spaceman Spiff
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Boehner can probably be most to blame for Obama's re-election.  Spending bills today are tomorrow's GDP.   If Obama had to deal with the ramifications of spending cuts and his policies, he would have been tossed out (they all would be.).    Debt spending insures all of their re-elections until the creditors say no more.   Crazy f'n times.


(not that I had much hope that Romney would have cut spending and quit the bailouts; I'm fine with throwing each party's bums out after a 4 year stint.)   

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 16:01 | 3151840 Clesthenes
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Spaceman, you wrote, “Spending bills today are tomorrow’s GDP.”

How blind thou art.

When people look at a European castle, with a hundred acres of manicured lawns and gardens, the thoughtless observer exclaims, “Oh, how splendid!”

He never allows himself to see the tens of thousands of peasants who were ruined and plundered to make such a “splendid” waste.

Now do you see?  Every appropriation of Congress is just such a castle.  It does not add to GDP; but subtracts a multiple of its amount.


Mon, 01/14/2013 - 21:37 | 3152760 Spaceman Spiff
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I get that. Our dear elected officials get it too and don't care when they never have to worry about a recession under their watch when they can vote for more spending. They might still be under the delusion that it will be the next guy's problem.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 23:19 | 3153053 secret_sam
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      He never allows himself to see the tens of thousands of peasants who were ruined and plundered to make such a “splendid” waste.

Just to be clear: we're supposed to *believe* you're concerned about all those poor USian peasants who could be ruined and that right?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 17:48 | 3152202 Village Smithy
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I agree and this will end badly for the POTUS because the GOP realizes how stupid they were to just let the Dems print and borrow away all the problems. If ever an election was bought with our own money... That does not mean however that the Republicans would have done it any different, they piled on debt when times were good. Bottom line is we have no one looking out for our or our children's interests.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:24 | 3151724 100pcDredge
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But did the American people support Twinkies?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:28 | 3151736 dexter_morgan
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They don't? Ummmmmm, not so sure about that - they just did re-elect Obameo didn't they?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:43 | 3151791 michiganmaven
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Someone already said it on another post but anyone notice that Obama sounds like a drug addict when he talks about spending? "If you do not give in it will kill us"... "if you do not provide me with a raise in the debt ceiling I will do something bad"... "if you dont do this.... insert threat here"... so basically the SAME exact attitude a drug user does to his/her family... if you dont give me mooney or a place to sleep I will hurt myself... do you want that? 


Just like in a family it works for a while - until they get fed up and call the bluff.... just wish Boehner has a pair to actually call the bluff - even a die hard republican like me thinks his pansy ass will cave.... should have never been relected speaker. 

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 17:40 | 3152177 Village Smithy
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Is it time for an intervention?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:44 | 3151792 michiganmaven
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sorry double post !

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:45 | 3151799 jomama
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bullshit.  most americans don't even pay attention.

all they care about is lower my taxes and increase my benefits. 

as long as they have this and TV distractions, they could give a fuck about endless wars, bankster world domination, drones flying above them, civil rights flushed down the memory hole.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 15:52 | 3151818 IridiumRebel
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Zerohedge posters would like it if they extended the debt ceiling whilst giving everybody everything their helpless handout hoping hearts desire until the weight of the debt collapses the whole house of cards upon itself in a gimongous pile of shite. That is all......

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 16:35 | 3151942 TerminalDebt
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Just make the Debt ceiling permanent at 16.5 Trillion. No more increases, no more debating about raising it.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 16:42 | 3151983 AgAu_man
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Not all 'American' people. Only the tax-paying US Citizens plus the tax-paying US Subjects (Green Card) types are fed up. The rest don't mind.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 07:52 | 3153558 overmedicatedun...
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dems; we will push tax and spend and you gop lyte dems will push spending cuts, together we will cut spending 0.01 percent and we dems will put the press out saying it is a crime against colored people and the children, you gop guys will claim victory, and we will both vote for more base line spending..victory in DC. ONE PARTY RULE.

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 20:42 | 3152675 syntaxterror
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The Free Shit Army cares about deficits? Really?

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 20:53 | 3152701 syntaxterror
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The "American People" want free shit, more free shit and even more free shit. 

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 22:42 | 3152965 Billy Shears
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To sum up the predicament and Obama's stance on the deficit/debt ceiling, and any reduction thereof, the following paradox is illustrative (if not a perfect metaphor); allow me to quote from one of my favorite exchanges in cinema:

[discussing the Doomsday machine]
President Merkin Muffley: How is it possible for this thing to be triggered automatically and at the same time impossible to untrigger?
Dr. Strangelove: Mr. President, it is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this machine, you know. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy... the FEAR to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision-making process which rules out human meddling, the Doomsday machine is terrifying and simple to understand... and completely credible and convincing.




Mon, 01/14/2013 - 23:16 | 3153048 secret_sam
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Man, just BEGGING for it. 

I wanna see some spending cuts, too.

Cut Congressional salaries and give them the same health-insurance and retirement options that the other FEDGOV employees get. 

Maybe it belongs on that webpage where you start some kind of petition...

Mon, 01/14/2013 - 23:42 | 3153123 Totentänzerlied
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"The American People Do Not Support Raising Debt Ceiling" is an outright lie. Look how they voted not but 2 months ago.

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