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It Begins: Bundesbank To Commence Repatriating Gold From New York Fed
In what could be a watershed moment for the price, provenance, and future of physical gold, not to mention the "stability" of the entire monetary regime based on rock solid, undisputed "faith and credit" in paper money, German Handelsblatt reports in an exclusive that the long suffering German gold, all official 3,396 tons of it, is about to be moved. Specifically, it is about to be partially moved out of the New York Fed, where the majority, or 45% of it is currently stored, as well as the entirety of the 11% of German gold held with the Banque de France, and repatriated back home to Buba in Frankfurt, where just 31% of it is held as of this moment. And while it is one thing for a "crazy, lunatic" dictator such as Hugo Chavez to pull his gold out of the Bank of England, it is something entirely different, and far less dismissible, when the bank with the second most official gold reserves in the world proceeds to formally pull some of its gold from the bank with the most. In brief: this is a momentous development, one which may signify that the regime of mutual assured and very much telegraphed - because if the central banks don't have faith in one another, why should anyone else? - trust in central banks by other central banks is ending.
Much more importantly, it is being telegraphed as such, with Buba fully aware of just what the consequences of this (first partial, and then full; and certainly full vis-a-vis the nouveau socialist regime of Francois Hollande which will soon hold zero German gold) repatriation will be in a global monetary arena, which is already scraping by on the last traces of faith in a monetary system that is slowly but surely dying but first diluting itself to oblivion. And in simple game theory terms, the first party to defect from the prisoner's dilemma of all the bulk of global gold being held by the Fed, defects best. Then the second. Then the third. Until, in this particular case, the last central bank to pull its gold from the NY Fed and the other 2 primary depositories of developed world gold, London and Paris, just happens to discover their gold was never there to begin with, and instead served as collateral to paper gold subsequently rehypothecated several hundred times, and whose ultimate ownership deed is long gone.
It would be very ironic, if the Bundesbank, which many had assumed had bent over backwards to accommodate Mario Draghi's Goldmanesque demands to allow implicit monetization of peripheral nations' debts has just "returned the favor" by launching the greatest physical gold scramble of all time.
From Handelsblatt:
Die Bundesbank hat ein neues Konzept ausgearbeitet, wo sie künftig ihre Goldreserven lagern will. Nach Informationen des Handelsblatts (Dienstausgabe) sieht dieses Konzept, das am kommenden Mittwoch bekanntgegeben werden soll, vor, den heimischen Standort aufzuwerten, in New York dafür weniger Gold zu lagern und überhaupt kein Gold mehr in Paris zu horten.
Derzeit lagert das Gold der Bundesbank ihren Angaben zufolge in New York, London, Paris und Frankfurt. In der amerikanischen Notenbank Fed lagern 45 Prozent der insgesamt 3.396 Tonnen Gold, in der Bank of England in London 13 Prozent, in der Banque de France in Paris elf Prozent und im Hauptsitz in Frankfurt 31 Prozent. Diese Verteilung soll sich nun ändern.
We present it in the original for fear of losing something in translation, but in broad English terms the above reads as follows:
The German Bundesbank is developing a new approach as to where its gold will be stored. According to exclusive information, to be fully announced on Wednesday, the bank will in the future hold less gold in the New York Fed, and no more hold in Paris (Banque de France). As a result, the distribution of German gold, of which 45% is held in New York, 13% in London, 11% in Paris and 31% in Frankfurt, is about to change.
There is no need to explain why this is huge news (for those who have not followed our series on the concerns and issue plaguing German gold can catch up here, here, here, here, and certainly here) . At least no need for us to explain. Instead we will let the Bundesbank do the explanation. The following section is the answer provided by the Bundesbank itself in late October in response to the question why it does not move the gold back to Germany:
The reasons for storing gold reserves with foreign partner central banks are historical since, at the time, gold at these trading centres was transferred to the Bundesbank. To be more specific: in October 1951 the Bank deutscher Länder, the Bundesbank’s predecessor, purchased its first gold for DM 2.5 million; that was 529 kilograms at the time. By 1956, the gold reserves had risen to DM 6.2 billion, or 1,328 tonnes; upon its foundation in 1957, the Bundesbank took over these reserves. No further gold was added until the 1970s. During that entire period, we had nothing but the best of experiences with our partners in New York, London and Paris. There was never any doubt about the security of Germany’s gold. In future, we wish to continue to keep gold at international gold trading centres so that, when push comes to shove, we can have it available as a reserve asset as soon as possible. Gold stored in your home safe is not immediately available as collateral in case you need foreign currency. Take, for instance, the key role that the US dollar plays as a reserve currency in the global financial system. The gold held with the New York Fed can, in a crisis, be pledged with the Federal Reserve Bank as collateral against US dollar-denominated liquidity. Similar pound sterling liquidity could be obtained by pledging the gold that is held with the Bank of England.
And in case the above was not clear enough, below is the speech Buba's Andreas Dobret delivered to none other than NY Fed's Bill Dudley in early November:
Please let me also comment on the bizarre public discussion we are currently facing in Germany on the safety of our gold deposits outside Germany – a discussion which is driven by irrational fears.
In this context, I wish to warn against voluntarily adding fuel to the general sense of uncertainty among the German public in times like these by conducting a “phantom debate” on the safety of our gold reserves.
The arguments raised are not really convincing. And I am glad that this is common sense for most Germans. Following the statement by the President of the Federal Court of Auditors in Germany, the discussion is now likely to come to an end – and it should do so before it causes harm to the excellent relationship between the Bundesbank and the US Fed.
Throughout these sixty years, we have never encountered the slightest problem, let alone had any doubts concerning the credibility of the Fed [ZH may, and likely will, soon provide a few historical facts which will cast some serious doubts on this claim. Very serious doubts]. And for this, Bill, I would like to thank you personally. I am also grateful for your uncomplicated cooperation in so many matters. The Bundesbank will remain the Fed’s trusted partner in future, and we will continue to take advantage of the Fed’s services by storing some of our currency reserves as gold in New York.
Incidentally, what Zero Hedge did provide after this article, was factual evidence that the Buba's very much "trusted partner" had been skimming it on physical gold deliveries on at least one occasion, in "Exclusive: Bank Of England To The Fed: "No Indication Should, Of Course, Be Given To The Bundesbank..."
So we wonder: what changed in the three months between November and now, that has caused such a dramatic about face at the Bundesbank, and that in light of all of the above, will make is explicitly very unambigous that the act of gold repatriation, assuming of course that Handelsblatt did not mischaracterize what is happening and misreport the facts, means the "excellent relationship" between the Fed and Buba, not to mention Banque de France which will shortly hold precisely zero German gold, has just collapsed.
Also, if the Bundesbank is first, who is next?
Finally, once the scramble to satisfy physical gold deliverable claims manifests itself in the market, we can't help but wonder what will happen to the price of gold: both paper and physical?
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How many other countries will now follow suit? Western central banks could be in big big trouble.
http://marcfabersblog.blogspot.ca/
It's a good thing Canada doesn't have to worry about its gold reserves held in other countries. You see Canada sold off all its physical gold ten years ago (at the bottom). But not to worry, the brilliant economists at the Bank of Canada and the Finance Department have backed the Canadian dollar with the U.S. dollar. As some bimbo on Fox News said "gold is not a good investment because it's not backed by anything".
The Dutch should follow pronto. It's now or never.
We could give you Swiss francs instead of Gold - Whoops, Swissie in free-fall!!!
Funny, it was linked to the Euro and is supported by FIAT currency reserves of many different countries.
Full faith in the Sovereign Issues and FIAT - Ha ha. Get PMs and sit tight.
You mean all your tungsten belongs to us.
Don't expect to get good delivery bars. This has already happened in 1968:
http://www.silverdoctors.com/fed-sent-bundesbank-172-bad-delivery-gold-bars-in-1968/
I am trying to find out how they are going to do it technicaly so finally the news will be that there is 3k+ new tons of gold in the market because US held it outside their accounting
I found the video of the Germans recliaiming their gold from the NY Fed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSXbgfKFWg
Ben is in charge now. POTUS has nothing on him.
Actually, Jamie Escobar is in charge.
Just another day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyiEp0mK2fg
This is real. 1980s. So you can imagine what is going on now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAN7uK3mkjw
For sure. Daniel Hopsicker's book Barry and the Boys is a great read IMO.
Video overview here (a great factual doc absurdly playing on UFOTV):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOAg0K1Zijs
Jeesus, as well 'hidden' as HSBC.
You mean Esteban right?
Cargo Holds ...Bitchez
I wonder whos Gold they'll be receiving. You can be sure as shit it wasn't theirs originally.
My guess is it won't contain a single gram of tungsten because if it did..... and they're giving it to Germany.....this game is over.
Probably take them a year + to get enough together to ship.
Your sir are a Terrist. 100% PURE Tungstan it will be and of course fully backed by the "full faith and credit of the Ununited States of Amerkia". Gotta problem with that? Well FYI we have already re-targeted the Trident II's on an Ohio somewhere in the fuckin' Atlantic.... email a screen shot to the Buba and CC Merkel. That should do it.
End of discussion
of course it will be full of tungsten, with a few carefully marked real bars mixed in. The real bars will serve for the fake audit and the german people will be happy.
Dear German citizens, please accept this unique US Mint platinum coin in lieu of your gold being held with us. The full faith and credit of the United States stands behind this platinum coin, as denominated in US Federal Reserve notes equaling the value of your relics. It's really really really as valuable as your gold, really!
After all, we are not a deadbeat nation.
And being a rather unique rare coin we'll only have to with-hold taxes on you at the lower rate for collectables.
(humming tuneless somethings about marching songs)
exactly, we beat others to death
'Hey Rocky! Watch me pull a platinum coin outta my ass!'
Seems like a first good move if they are to leave the Euro. Oops, did I spill the beans?
Strongest economy in Europe, they would be fools not to.
Actually, the Fed would love this move! Why? They would have eliminated the nearest rival for their GRC (Global Reserve Currency) status. Even a Northern and Southern Euro split would be fine with them.
"Keep 'easing' Ben! Keep printing Tim-Jack!" Yah, little is exactly as it first appears. Except to sheep.
asia will have the next GRC
I doubt anyone in Asia would want the "global reserve currency [GRC]." The GRC is very much a 'two edged sword.' Much more likely is Freegold.
Disagree. Who wouldn't want to get something for virtually nothing for awhile with 900 million po' folks rising expectations being the main obstacle standing in the way of your continued grip on power?
China got their USD horde essentially for nothing by exchanging RMB they printed up for USD their exporters and businesses earned. Even better if they can get some extra gold in exchange for their "People's Currency"
See, I disagree. I think China would absolutely love the ability to export their inflation just like we have. Payback to the western powers for the opium wars would also be a nice little ancilliary benefit.
I think government prizes stability above all else: it is job #1, for government, to insure that tomorrow it will have (at least as much) power as it has today. Hosting the GRC is not stabile, because that currency must be created in excess of local needs. That excess currency hangs over the local economy like a guillotine. That is where the USA is today.
Prosecuting our war criminals _may_ save us from the executioner. Likely that the USA doesn't deserve to be spared.
They just were able to make a AR-15 magazine from a 3D printer today - what about we use that printer to print us some bars?
So you buy more clips. Big Whoop! Takes 3-4 seconds to swap clips.
Nothing bad happens during that time anyway, as we've all seen in the movies with those cool, sexy chicks with perfect bodies and skin-tight outfits. ;-)
Three words.... UP AND AWAY !!!
"It begins...."
Oh, if only I would have gotten a Troy Ounce of Gold for every time I heard that phrase...
They need the money for the Fourth Reich, yes, you heard me correctly.
Seems this history professor was traveling in the backwoods of Argentina, and stopped by this little inn. He ordered a beer, sat sipping, when he noticed two older gents huddled in the corner. Gosh, he thought, even though they are so old, I can't help but think, the resemblance is uncanny. He walks over to them , and ( boldly for him ) says, " Err, I can't help but remark, you look like Adolf Hilter and you sir, like Hermann Goring. "That is us, " Hitler said. "Sit down, Join us". The history prof said," I have a million questions, how did you survive, how did you escape and get here, but mostly what are you doing here? Hitler remarked triumphantl, "Why, we are planning the rise of Germany, the Fourth Reich. We shall have the largest army, the best armada, and soon now. And we will kill another 6 million Jews, and three Irish acrobats.
"Three Irish acrobats?" asks the prof. Hitler nudges Goring and says" You see, no one cares about these Jews!"
That's it damnit!!! I'm moving to Uruguay.
THIS MEANS WAR!
Remember the Libyan Escapade!
Just days after Mohatmah Dingleberry Chavez announced he was repatriating all his gold from overseas, aka Bunko of England, the rebel troops, the New Long War Enemy of the Democratic Freedom-loving Peoples of the West all of a sudden rushed into Tripoli and secured the Bank of Libya and its gold reserves. Only to announce that a goodly chunk of which needed be sold in London to make good payment of salaries and outstanding weapons bills for the rebel cause.
One of the first times I can remember a cause such as that being armed by the west, needing to pay hard buckaroos.
And such as is, the business of connecting the dots, the gold available to make good with Hugonut, was almost simultaneously released from the Libyan stash, at the Bunko Englaterre.
How much gold has Mali?
As many legions has the Pope!
Mali is the 3rd largest gold producer in Africa, putting out about 45 tons a year. Looks like they have about 2 billion USD in holdings.
Thar's turrists in that thar jungle!
knukles, I always truly appreciate your posts here. Just had to drop that in.
Also, USA just added 'logistical' help to Operation Liberate Mali(an Gold). http://rt.com/news/france-mali-french-troops-006/
'paper gold'
Paper has an atomic weight of 79 too? wow so they are like the same thing?!
Thank God I listened to Goldman..Wait...NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
As they say: "Heim ins Reich"
Wow. I'm really surprised Business Insider isn't reporting this (unless I missed it). They are normally really quick to piggy-back any ZH story.
Pfft.
Gold's entering the rehypatriation phase.
I am sure most of you have seen this but we should get more signatures to audit the gold in the Fed... Please sign this if you agree....
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/perform-assayed-public-audit-all-treasurys-claimed-8100-tons-gold-and-net-swaps-loans-sales/rGyFTLwD
If bank solvency, via derivitive markets, ever fail than Paper Gold to zero. And if you think that you can put a value on physical gold (whether $0 or $10,000) your wrong.
Bundesbank denials.... ready, wait... 3, 2, 1, ..
Wo ist mein Wolfram Detektor?
UHM, AHH, EH, UHM, HMMM, YE-- UHM...HM...AH...
I assume that those are all a sell?
I, UHHHH, ERRRR SORRY, WE AIN'T GOT NONE.
Does this mean I buy AAPL tomorrow?
Yes. Yes, it does.
Definitely. See if you can get some Groupon too, and Netflix.
That....and load up on FB.
Lol !
long frozen
orange juice concentrate ...
You don't have a credit line with FED on Apple stock? We all have one, it is free. But you can't sell.
no buy at $420 a small position.
For real, this time.......Gold Bitches!
Now now how many times must we tell ya that it's 'bitchez' and not 'bitches'?
(Greened ya for getting the message right)
It's not that we don't trust you Americans, but ....
@Big Ben
What do Americans have to do with this? This is one branch of the international banking cabal calling its markers in from another branch of the international banking cabal.
Why so serious?
Bundesbank: "Show me the money!"
ROFLMAO!
Ben?
KEVIN TO THE DUNGEON- STAT!
edit: March at the latest, bitchez. Get it together.
Please god, please, let the Bundesbank audit and find tungsten... please oh please. I'll go to church, I promise I will and I won't say any more nasty things about Turbo Tim, and Bernanke, and Jamie Dimon, and Jon Corzine, and...well that entire snake pit and friends..ya, I promise.
Best comment of the year. + 100
Someone HAS TO make a Hitler Finds Tungsten video. You know the ones!
My god. Brilliant.
I second that motion.
just the title alone has me coughing up from swallowing wrong and now my loved ones are asking if I'm OK. Yes, but the world isn't
sick
nice
Couldn't find one like that but this one could be closely related...
Hitler learns he can not divide by zerore: "As a result, the distribution of German gold, of which 45% is held in New York, 13% in London, 11% in Paris and 31% in Frankfurt, is about to change."
As I recall, London and New York proved to be "tougher customers" than Paris.
Well I gave it a shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqvDUEVbIbk
You can try yours out here:
Make your own Hitler videohttp://downfall.jfedor.org/
If there is a God, He probably wants you to talk trash about that 'entire snake pit and friends'
lol...10ct. if they're lucky
Meanwhile only 4,788 Americans have signed the petition to audit their own gold reserves. Really? Looks like a youtube count an the videos than have only 1,000 views but 5,000 likes.
Z
Meanwhile only 4,788 Americans have signed the petition to audit their own gold reserves. Really? Looks like a youtube count on the videos than have only 1,000 views but 5,000 likes.
Z
Defcon 2 or will this be greeted with a yawn?
A yawn and a drone and a hellfire missle.
Magic Eight Ball says yawner. Covering the debt ceiling pantomime is much more interesting.
Look, if we actually have all the gold we say we do, it's still a heluva story. If we DON'T, however, it's a REALLY HUGE story- big enough for CNBC to cover it in a 2 minute interview (where Joe Kernen asks the question and then interrups with a bunch of comments instead of letting the guest answer).
Defcon 2 or will this be greeted with a yawn?
A yawn in public for sure. The sheep must be kept clam until the blade hits them.
I'm praying hard for the yawner. If its a true Defcon 2, what would the event be to distract the public? Another 20 children shot ? I'm saddened I wouldn't even be surprised.
Miffed:-)
They find life on Mars?
A suitcase nuke is detonated at the NY Fed?
It is disclosed that the last five US Presidents were animatronic robots from Disney World?
Jesus comes back to Earth and admits that he is also Muhammad?
Barney Frank goes straight?
I don't know about that. Kept clams are getting pretty expensive.
They're just not worried about being overrun by the Soviet Union any more since the wall fell not long ago. What's it been, like a few weeks now? Anyway, since that recent development they're feeling much better about holding it themselves. That's all. No mistrust of other central banks or their governments. That's just crazy talk.
The good news is we won't need ships to deliver it. With technology these days an email with an IOU in the subject section should suffice.
It always has before!
"Full faith and credit..."
ROFLMAO!
Merkel will send Das Boot.
Merkel will get das boot.
Fuck yeah, release the donkey Kong.
Fuck you Bernanke..checkmate you fucking shit eating crooked asshole.
I believe when Bernanke takes a bite out of this giant shit sandwich we will all be taking a bite as well. Not sure how eager I am to take my bite in reality.
Relax...it tastes like chicken
No honor among thieves
Ohhhhhhh shit.
Who needs gold when you can print trillion dollar coins??????
What say you Krugmann?
Jerry Seinfeld: "Not so fast, Newman!"
AgAu_man: "Not so fast, Krugman!" I already patriated my Platinum. :-)
Just wait till it arrives and they find out its just pretty looking tungsten!
Vat iz diz? Ve hav been zkammed!
Vee doubt it. Vee Berliners know all about Tungsten (Wolfram in German), ja. Zee vorld-famous lamp kompany OSRAM (in Berlin) is a fusion of zee name Osmium and Wolfram. And vee are pretty good in Physics, ja? Alzough vee don't have as much pull mit zee Swedish Nobel Komittee any more, as some now have.
Vee vill apply Ultrasound and X-Ray Crystallography methods at first, but zen vee will melt all zee bars and find out for sure. Zen vee vill re-mold them into ISO-compliant sizes. Deutsche Bank and Dresdner Bank vill be very happy. Zee 'Sparkasse' not so much, as zat is a bank for commoners -- like your WaMu used to be.
Someone just rang the bell...
Shake hands....let's get the rules straight. There are none.
Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome
Dr. Dealgood:"Thunderdome is simple. Get to the weapons, use them any way you can. I know you won't break the rules... there aren't any."
Fuck the Fed.
I got my own central bank. Under the river.
Prisoners' dilmma bitchez!
When do they play find the tungsten?
*rubs hands together maniacally*
I was just reading a past article about German gold repatriation.
ZH, please turn off your beam into my mind.
Thanks.
Just shove a paper clip into the chip in your head.
Problem solved!
A dead short. Got it.
It sounds like a naked silver short gone really bad.
Jim Kramer Says of gold: Sell,Sell, Sell!!!
Credibility says of Jim Cramer: Bye Bye Bye!
Jim Cramer had credibility ?
Who is this Jim Cramer person you are referring to?
Jim Cramer is a coke-snorting, hyperactive, ADD-afflicted, shameless stock-pimping pumpmonkey on the American cable TV financial channel CNBC, who is incessantly and perpetually haranging his audience (all 12 of them) to BUY! BUY! BUY! stocks, almost regardless of the particular stock, its history, or its prospects. He is (in)famous for having told his (gullible, naive, ignorant, soon-to-be-pennyless) audience to buy Bear Stearns as a "solid value" several days before their bankruptcy.
Oh, now I know. Thanks. He's the blowhard who is featured on the Ministry of Propaganda's cable channel. My 4 year old son thinks he is Chuckles the Clown.
LOL! That should be his Wikipedia entry
I will believe it when it actually happens.
Its about fucking time they came to their senses. If you don't hold it, you don't own it. period...
Sending the message you want to hold it violates basic trust though. Makes this a big move. Not mention the history involved here (think WW1 adn WW2).
Let the REAL Goldilocks Economy commence to begin!
Well Gentleman, I do believe I just heard the OFFICIAL 2 Minute warning.
(Hear it that is, over the din of some fat women singing)
Please Place your final bets, Window will be closing in 10,9,8,7...
Also, 'Ich bin ein Berliner' has been replaced by 'We are not a deadbeat nation'.
LOLUIC (laughing out loud until I cry)
"We are not a deadbeat nation." Looks like Germany just expressed their opinion on that.
Don't know why they don't trust us anymore. Just 'cause we sold them piles of shit mortgages. And then laughed about it.
all those massive prosecutions mended the sores
Isn't there an appropriate Rammstein song to accompany this thread? Come on guys. Need some mood music here.
Clearly, 'Du Hast'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlOAMKTj0hU
Change the verse from
Du Hast Mich (you hate me) to:
Du Hast Timmy
Du Hast The Benank
Du Hast Obamo
Du Hast FRN Fiat
After listening and viewing...perhaps this is apropos.
Sonne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPhVd3DOuTQ translates "Play with me" (As I recall its about two brothers(banks) jerking each other off...guess Lady GaGa's not so weird afterall, huh?)
Ich Will...complete with "bank" scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34
Roter Sand, cause why not?
You know what the "bank" is? The old DDR main govt building in Berlin. The band members were from East Germany before the fall of the wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCZpI5q-5vA
I think Rammstein Feuer Frei is very very appropriate
Vielleicht "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M4aX9e_3kY
Hmm... Bueck Dich comes to mind
Bend over, I command you
turn your visage away from me
I don't care about your face
bend over
And It's Gone !
http://youtu.be/4TlPo0yCSa4
Gold, what gold? Ohhh, that gold..I think we put it out in Nevada, but I could be wrong. Give me a few months, we'll get back with you. Cheers
Deutschland just gave us the Gold ....... finger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MagCoUYvIXE
"Do you expect me to talk, Gold(finger)?"
"No, Mr. (US) Bond(s) --- I expect you to die!"
cue the laser (printer).
It's amazing the things they can print these days
http://www.infowars.com/ar-30-round-magazines-now-available-for-download...
No word on whether it can produce a Walther PPK or one of these:
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/06/007-collectibles/
I'm fully expecting them to say that the gold is there, but cannot
be moved because of Smaug ...... damn dragon is such a nuisance.
Germany will have to wait til sometime after the 3rd installment of the Hobbit.
Note the text "...when push comes to shove, we can have it available as a reserve asset as soon as possible."
Not "IF", but "WHEN". 'nuff said.
I think push has just come to shove.
Coming up next, the scrotal boot stomp.
Fuck you Bernanke and NYC bankers.
Simon Gruber is coming, bitchez, and there's no McClane to save your ass.
no it's not... Gold is up on the overnight!
Did Buba tweet this or is tweeting just something BernanQE does?