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One Year Of Tax Hikes On The Rich Is Promptly Spent As $60 Billion Sandy Relief Aid Bill Passes

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After more than two months of political grandstanding, finally the $60 billion pork-laden Sandy relief aid bill has passed through the House in a 241-180 vote (with 1 democrat and 179 republicans voting no), with the vote passing courtesy of just 49 republicans who voted with the democrats. The reminder objected in protest "against a bill that many conservatives say is too big and provides funding for things other than immediate relief for New York, New Jersey and Connecticut" Politico reports. Specifically, the House approved a $50 billion relief bill, after several hours of contentious debate in which scores of Republicans tried unsuccessfully to cut the size of the bill and offset a portion of it with spending cuts. $9.7 billion had been already voted on January 4th for a flood insurance lending facility.The biggest winner today? Chris Christie whose anti-Boehner soapbox rant drama two weeks ago may have been just the breaking straw that forced the passage of this porkulus bill.

From Politico:

Republican and Democratic supporters of the bill argued throughout the day that everyone should support it, or run the risk of losing votes for future disaster bills that might help people in their districts.


"Florida, good luck with no more hurricanes," Rep. Frank LoBiondo (R-N.J.) shouted to any member who might oppose the bill. "California, congratulations, did you get rid of the Andreas Fault? The Mississippi's in a drought. Do you think you're not going to have a flood again?


"Who are you going to come to when you have these things? We need this, we need it now. Do the right thing, as we have always done for you."


Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) issued a similar warning to members who oppose the bill."


I hope that we can have an overwhelming bipartisan vote," she said. "I think that ideally… that would be the right thing to do.


"But as a practical matter, you just never know what mother nature may have in store for you in your region, and you would certainly want the embrace of the entire nation around you and your area, for your constituents, for your communities, for our country."

In other words, let's cut spending... but not when that spending may involve me being the benficiary. Incidentally, this is precisely why the US government will never, ever address the true cause of its insolvency: spending. Because doing so may mean being unable to rely on other, generous taxpayers when push comes to shove.

Scores of Republicans ignored these warnings and voted to either cut the bill or offset parts of it with cuts elsewhere. But there were not enough deficit hawks to overcome the many Republicans who favored the bill as it was presented, along with nearly every Democrat.

And yet another reason why the debt ceiling deal has no choice but to be enacted, with the usual theater, is the following:

The other big vote was on whether to offset the $17 billion baseline bill with a 1.63 percent cut to discretionary government programs. The sponsor of this language, Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.), argued that while prior disaster bills did not have offsetting spending cuts, Congress is now operating in the context of a $16 trillion debt.


"The time has come and gone in this nation where we can walk in here one day and spend nine or 17 or 60 billion dollars and not think about who's paying for it," Mulvaney said.


But Mulvaney was rebuffed by House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers (R-Ky.), who opposed the idea of subjecting discretionary programs to an across-the-board cut. That left Mulvaney asking all members why Congress can't find cuts to fund important disaster recovery aid.


"Just tell me what you are willing to do without," said Mulvaney. "Are we willing and able to do without anything so that these people can get this money this year?"


Mulvaney's amendment failed 162-258, as Republicans split on the proposal 157-71. The vote split GOP leaders, as Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) voted for it, while Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) voted against it.

So, basically, there is nothing that the House was willing and able to do without. But yes: spending cuts.

Funny stuff.

And putting it all into context, $60 billion just happens to be the annual benefit from the Obama tax hikes on the rich. And just like that, the entire first year's budget benefit was spent in under 2 weeks.

Because if you tell them there is more money, they will gladly take it...


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Tue, 01/15/2013 - 20:57 | 3156113 monad
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Theft. Fuck you, congress!

Surely this is enough to lure Corzine out of his secret lair...

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:01 | 3156127 JPM Hater001
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Yeah, this is the earliest in the year I remember being sold out...

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:07 | 3156147 lolmao500
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Really? When republicans tea partiers ``took over`` in 2010, it took less than a day for them to turn on their promises.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:08 | 3156153 knukles
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Tax and Fucking Spend Incarnate

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:31 | 3156359 max2205
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Must raise debt ceiling to pay for that which we committed too.

A full years marginal tax increase gone, poof! Now what

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:54 | 3156434 Zer0head
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 when the tax bill passed and Boner was re-elected, the congressional  (if there ever was one) Tea Part became a footnote, dems and reps are the same and now they don't even try and hide it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 01:15 | 3156698 TruthInSunshine
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People should realize that the Porkapocalypse like this, much of which will flow to things totally unrelated to "the storm of the century that was a million times worse than Katrina," and that will also conveniently allow people of great means to rebuild their coastal homes, despite not having property insurance that would allow them to otherwise do so (thanks, oh generous taxpayers, as Chucky "Fuck Flyover Country" Schumer would say) that is doing the nation in, by death of trillions in papercuts, is equally the fault of both parties.

Or has anyone missed how these types of bloated, pork over-laden appropriation bills pass with "just enough" votes of the "opposition party?"

What an incredible "whew!" moment it must be when the votes are tallied, with CONgress scum waiting anxiously for the final vote count, to find out that the latest in CONgressional lard-ness  has passed in a squeaker...with the "opposition" party then claiming the moral high ground for "opposing it." /s

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:25 | 3156521 Harbanger
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Big Govt is expensive.  So we tap anyone working for higher taxes, what else. .  We are well beyond tax increases making a difference, but that won't stop Obama and the Democrats from playing their class warfare socialist meme.  Obama has absolutely no desire to reduce spending, in fact he's trying to expand Govt spending as fast as possible.  The system is just running on pure debt until doesn't. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 02:09 | 3156845 natty light
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Just like California Measure 30 money: Poof!

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:32 | 3156362 markmotive
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Tax the poor, save the rich!

Hilarious - Conan O'Brien slams AIG's new 'ad for America'

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 07:21 | 3157016 Go Tribe
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Money is god today, so why's everyone surprised that the government worships so religiously?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:24 | 3156192 nmewn
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The Tea Party (as you must know) is a faction.

"Mulvaney's amendment failed 162-258, as Republicans split on the proposal 157-71. The vote split GOP leaders, as Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) voted for it, while Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) voted against it."

From the crevices of my mind I recall this...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:04 | 3156619 Pool Shark
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Great video nmewn: Waxman gets pwned! (I'll bet he still doesn't understand the difference between a bond holder and an unsecured creditor.

btw, We had a big frost here over the weekend in California; I lost a few plants; WHERE'S MY DISASTER RELIEF???!!!

[might as well just go ahead and write checks to everyone...]

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:56 | 3156274 Spider
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At least Congress is consistent.  That's good...right?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:02 | 3156287 lolmao500
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Consistent in their treason yes, the only thing they are not is the degree. The more time passes, the more treasonous they get... so I guess that they would be consistent on that too... the rate at which they become more treasonous.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:44 | 3156398 DeadFred
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But is dT/dt a constant or is it also accelerating?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:56 | 3156441 thexperience
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it is accelerating to the point of escape velocity...enjoy the ride!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:07 | 3156629 The Gooch
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Yes! No!

They ALL love pork.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:38 | 3156383 max2205
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It's really a NE secret stimulus bill

Thanks for voting O in.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:03 | 3156136 Xibalba
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Meanwhile we should start another WAR in Africa.  I dunna, maybe Mali for instance.  They've got natural resources to offset the costs, right?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:12 | 3156160 knukles
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DefDep (Afrocom) announced the other day they'd be active in 35 African countries in 2013... training, and troopies may return fire on enemy (undefined term) to protect themselves.


Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:56 | 3156275 mt paul
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show us

the pork...

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:48 | 3156415 Falconsixone
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It's all pork from a pig that's turned to dust. Leave it the way it is to match the rest of the new world order up.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:23 | 3156516 espirit
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By the time the pork is taken off the top and the major players paid, the 50 billion won't even scratch recovery efforts.

Just wait until the screaming starts over what's left.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:35 | 3156370 PGR88
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Why don't you put blame exactly where it lies?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:58 | 3156447 azzhatter
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Amerika  Fuck Yeah

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 01:41 | 3156813 Dingleberry
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This hurricane was obviously sent by God to give Jersey and Wall Street a much needed enema.  

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:00 | 3156115 francis_sawyer
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It takes $85 billion [per month] of JOOBUX, at last count [printed out of thin air] to keep the Ponzi running [& the beneficiaries siphoning PHYZZ off the top in the process]... I'm supposed to be worried about this?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:01 | 3156124 fonzannoon
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You just nailed it FS. Who gives a shit. I am the first one to yell at everyone in NY that they should not live next to the fuckin water. But you know what? Fuck it. If you are going to give a trillion a year to a bunch of bankers then hook up everyone else too in some way. Let's ride this ponzi into the sunset. The faster the better.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:19 | 3156141 francis_sawyer
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My only regret [& error] is to have called them 'JOOBUX'...

I should have been MORE ACCURATE in describing them as ['DOLLARS' which print themselves ~ due to some unknown & androgynous phenomenon]... It's gotta be some nano-tech kinda thing that nobody has ever heard of before...

My bad [if I'm wrong]... As with MOST things... I'm the first in line to gather up a group and hit the first notes of 'KUYBAYA' & sing away the issue... That usually solves the world's problems... ECKS - pecially on INTERNET BLOGS...

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:19 | 3156499 espirit
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Just call them DOLLAHS.  Same as moolah.  But a long way from being Real Dollars. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:23 | 3156665 Colonel Klink
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I believe the proper term is Juden Fetzen.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:23 | 3156666 Colonel Klink
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Derp dupe.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:07 | 3156149 Never One Roach
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Fonz...I am beginning to be as pessimistic as you. My neighbor down the street is on the credit card hole for over $65k and hasn't paid any of them in what does he do? Goes to the home improvement store which promptly (incredibly!) hands him yet another credit card which he uses to redeocrate his entire house...

....then he tells all of them to take a hike!

Fewer and fewer give a heck at every level.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:18 | 3156167 fonzannoon
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I have my friends and family all telling me I am pessimistic....Now I have people on Zerohedge of all places telling me they are beginning to be as pessimistic as me....Holy shit I better start taking some happy pills....Thanks Never one that really puts things in perspective for me LOL. Never one don't go down my road. Hang in there man.

I always thought it was not so much optomism or pessimism as it is reality. Bring up math and people shut down. I try to live in reality. But shit maybe I am off in the deep end.

The funny thing is I believe that if we get a reset we at least have a chance to start over and things can get better. So that makes me an optomist or a pessimist? I give up....



Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:21 | 3156186 francis_sawyer
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I'm happy as shit...

I bought another tube of Ag ASE's today... I'll only be sad when my boat springs another fucking leak...

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:24 | 3156189 fonzannoon
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@ Francis Sawyer..I am pretty happy myself. Good for you man. Enjoy your time man. I heard somewhere that on a long enough timeline....

Completely and totally unrelated...anyone seen Slewie?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:30 | 3156202 knukles
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Holy Be-Jesus, just the other morning I was sittin' listenin' to a bunch of my buds yakin' over coffee and I thought the same thing.
Please, where are those blue pills?

I'm happy but not delusional.  Well they'd say I'm fuck nut bat shit crazy, which the say all the time then tell me they'd wished they'd listened... some recompense for a bat shit crazy man...

Eyes Wide Shut Incarnate

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:23 | 3156510 francis_sawyer
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Dog knows where I'd be without other 'peeps'... Whether or not they think I'm batshit crazy... Only the JEWS [on this site] think I should be sent to the gas chamber... [Which is ODD, because I don't feel the same way in reverse... I only think they should stop being SHITS & stop trying to hold the world economy hostage because they're a bunch of fucking greedy pricks]...

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:34 | 3156218 Raynja
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i always enjoy reading your posts, you tell it like it is.

optimism and pessimism are just delusions for the weak of mind, they have no place in truth.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:47 | 3156255 fonzannoon
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Thanks Raynja, I am a big fan of a lot of people on here. Knukles brought me the waterboys "fishermans blues". I can't listen to that loud enough. Awesome song.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:04 | 3156292 joego1
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Water boy blues, cool! Check out my sons band "The Bucky Walters"

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:55 | 3156437 DeadFred
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Catchy music best danced to the west coast swing.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:47 | 3156579 CrimsonAvenger
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Favorite song ever: This is the sea. That's the one I have to crank.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:01 | 3156268 francis_sawyer
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Slewie will be back... He misses us dearly...


BTW [I posted this on a different thread today]... Anecdotally ~ I was (as mentioned above), IN the coin shop today... EARLY ~ like minutes after they opened... There was only one other dude in there at that moment... He was actually EXCHANGING about 10 AGE's for about a monster box worth of 10 oz. Ag bars...

No comment ~ just sayin'... [because a transaction like that isn't like buying a pack of Juicy Fruits]...

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:59 | 3156449 Zer0head
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I thought slew was back in the hole for a probation thing

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:27 | 3156529 francis_sawyer
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Naw ~ I highly doubt it...


Tyler is "OZ" [the great  powerful]... He never TOOK nothin' from the TIN MAN...


Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:44 | 3156574 zorba THE GREEK
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We need to help those poor people that had $5,000,000 homes on the beach rebuild their

homes and add a heated indoor pool.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 07:22 | 3157017 Go Tribe
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As long as you don't bitch and complain all the time, you're fine. Nobody likes a whiner.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 09:26 | 3157138 Shevva
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When the Rome and British Empries collapsed it was like a very big wet brown fart not a sudden explosion. The good old US is just starting to realise it's pants might not be big nough to hold the shit thats about to happen.

Be opptimistic that the pants will hold if I was you.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:35 | 3156225 Threeggg
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I would love to see the ledger as to how much of that 60 billion reaches the actual people it is suppose to help.

maybe 20%..............maybe

uncle sam has overhead costs too ....... WInk, wink 

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:52 | 3156429 secret_sam
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NO DIFFERENCE if it reaches any "victims" of the storm, it's all added directly onto GDP no matter where it goes.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:46 | 3156576 zorba THE GREEK
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20%.... What are you? An optimist.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 20:59 | 3156116 DoChenRollingBearing
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Spend, spend, spend.  Sure makes you proud to be an American, doesn't it?

This will end in tears.  Buy gold...  Especially if you have children.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 20:59 | 3156120 km4
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Because if you tell them there is more money, they will gladly take it...

They don't care about because they're part of the 1% 

And the other 99% of Americans will hold the shit bag

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:14 | 3156169 knukles
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Will hold the shit bag?
Hows about holding (present tense) the shit bag?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:31 | 3156203 km4
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OK then more shit in the bag ;)

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:45 | 3156249 shovelhead
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Paper or plastic?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:12 | 3156312 Dr. Engali
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Neither I brought my own.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:51 | 3156591 knukles
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Want a yuck, next time take a body bag stuffed with newspaper and make it look real heavy dragging it....

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 20:59 | 3156122 Seasmoke
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i am here in NJ ........but i am no hypocrite.......this is disgusting !

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:06 | 3156123 Ham-bone
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"Porkulus" namesake for Christie???

Funny thing is I once thought this guy might be for real...but alas, just another bad actor in this two bit tragicomedy.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:08 | 3156155 nmewn
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""Porkulus" namesake for Christie???"

I second.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:13 | 3156168 joego1
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Porkulus Repubulus.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:16 | 3156176 joego1
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Porkulus Repubulus Morphiditus

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:34 | 3156217 nmewn
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Salivate Porkulus II

Corzine was the First ;-)

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:51 | 3156265 joego1
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Sucubus Gigantcus 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 11:37 | 3157615 Hedgetard55
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Prickus Obesus.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:01 | 3156125 krispkritter
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It's not aid, it's a what fucking reality do I pay for some Manhattan millionaire's townhome?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:16 | 3156175 knukles
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Bundles and bundles, gobs and gobs, oodles and oodles... and that's just from you.  Then they print more to augment their bonuses.


Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:02 | 3156129 gould's fisker
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Let's move on and spend the other nine years worth, raise that good for nuttin' debt ceiling to $100T LARGE, and choom up the Big B's printing machine.  After all, we aren't deadbeats, bitchez.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:09 | 3156130 lolmao500
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While we are talking spending big bucks...

Foreign Policy: State Dept. cable concludes Syria used chemical weapons against own people

US to start war in the middle-east in 3...2...1...

Or maybe they could start a war with China too.

9 US F-22 fighters deployed in Okinawa

Three more fighters of this kind are expected to arrive at Kadena shortly

Or maybe 35 wars in Africa...

The War On Terror Spreads to Africa: U.S. Sending Troops to 35 African Nations
Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:11 | 3156163 joego1
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That's OK as long as I have the printer I can just 2X the sandy dole for the entre into our next not a war.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:34 | 3156219 pods
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Of course Syria used chemical weapons against their own people.

I also heard they were taking rebel babies out of incubators.


Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:42 | 3156240 Dr. Engali
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I heard from my sister's boyfriend's mother's lover that they kick puppies too.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:03 | 3156293 francis_sawyer
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I heard they kick [the puppies] aunt's & uncles boyfriends & girlfriends too... on the sabbath!

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:34 | 3156372 ZeroAvatar
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Don't forget bombing their universities, students and all.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:02 | 3156131 nmewn
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Some seriously dumb bastards.

Annnd...Benny remains my bitch.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:13 | 3156135 Snakeeyes
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These whores in DC! ADDING $33.7 billion in a spending amendment, AND WE EXPECT THEM TO CUT SPENDING?????????

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:04 | 3156137 Never One Roach
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Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:04 | 3156139 Seasmoke
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once again, that Eddie Munster prick shows his true colors.......Fuck U

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:37 | 3156376 ZeroAvatar
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I'm curious what the complexion will look like after Gore and Lew, among others, settle in.............

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:04 | 3156142 joego1
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Sixty billon so a bunch of rich folks can rebuild there summer vacation homes so hurricane next can come and wipe it out again. This country is truly hopeless. Nothing is ever my fault and I should not have any risk in my life.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:08 | 3156150 El Tuco
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What's 60 billion? Just a journal entry.... Fucking Chump change.....

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:21 | 3156324 Widowmaker
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Less than 1 month of the Federal Reserve monetization racket of shit-filling fraud mortgage twinkees.


Disasters are the [old] new racket.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:14 | 3156170 Rob Jones
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Does anyone know what is in this bill? Or it this another one of those deals where we have to pass it in order to find out what is in it?

I read some reports saying that it (or some version of it being discussed) contained things like $150M for fisheries in Alaska. I bet that if you actually looked at the bill, you would find that a majority of the money goes to states that were never touched by Sandy.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:15 | 3156174 BigPerm
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Cuomo needed to be paid for his gun control law

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:18 | 3156178 knukles
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Ding ding ding
We have a winner!


(sorta titties for tat, coke and hookers on the side)

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:22 | 3156184 fonzannoon
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knukles just back off Cuomo that guy busted his ass his whole life to get where he is and you talk about him like he is some beneficiary of nepotism and just made his way off his name.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:52 | 3156595 knukles
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Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:23 | 3156191 unrulian
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Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:52 | 3156332 lolmao500
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Please. The guy wants to be emperor, he will go for gun control freely and with enjoyment.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:21 | 3156187 Marley
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What?  Congress spent some money to help.  OMG, what is the world coming too?  If they really wanted to pay for this, they could cut the Defense budget.  But the Koch Brothers would never have approved that.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:40 | 3156232 Dr. Engali
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Yeah yeah we get it... The Koch brothers run the whole world. They are the only rich pricks out there trying to buy influence. Wake up.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:25 | 3156195 One eyed man
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Calling it the "Hurricane Sandy Relief Aid Bill" sounds so much better than calling it the "No Pet Project Left Unfunded Bill".

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:29 | 3156200 foodstampbarry
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The repubs that voted against only voted against once they new it would pass... It's all a sad tragic show.


We are truly fucked.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:31 | 3156204 Flakmeister
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Nothing like dealing with a national disaster to get a true read on the pulse of the Hedge...


More than a few of you said you were awaiting this

Global summary 2012: Warmest La Nina Year on Record....

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:53 | 3156267 nmewn
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"The year 2012 was the 10th warmest year since records began in 1880.


The man made global warming hot/cold/wet/dry seasonal hysteria continues. Why is it that so much effort is put into the data, when some of the data gathering stations are like this?

I won't even go into deleting emails and losing and/or misplacing "data". Very scientific.


Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:12 | 3156487 Falconsixone
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Little freezing here. They've got the bad weather down, how are they at paradise?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:01 | 3156615 Flakmeister
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Clearly the role of La Nina and El Nino on global temps are lost on you.... Not to mention that these temps have occurred during a very weak Solar Cycle...

Why am I not suprised...

Notice the El Nino and La Nina years here

The next El Nino of significance will recall Dante.....

 As for Watts's bullshit, you can disprove his claims very easily with DIY temperature record calculator...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 07:58 | 3157033 nmewn
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La Nina & El Nino have nothing to do with CO2, cow farts or whatever hell you put yourself through trying to interpret what you think you see, Dante.

A picture, really is worth a thousand words.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 11:30 | 3157195 Flakmeister
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Yep, I should have known better, any understanding of nature that involves math or abstract reasoning is far beyond your comprehension level...

Here you might enjoy the pretty cartoon that explains it:

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:37 | 3160455 nmewn
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The only abstract reasoning I've ever seen you do is trying defend the indefensible deletion of emails & manipulation of data by the "climate scientists" of East Anglia ;-)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:44 | 3160685 Flakmeister
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That was a lame reach even for you...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 11:43 | 3157634 fuu
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"Nothing like dealing with a national disaster to get a true read on the pulse of the Hedge."

You were trolling pretty hard that week as I recall.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 11:48 | 3157653 Flakmeister
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I would argue that the fuckwads like nwmeeme saying that Sandy was going to be a nothingburger were the reall trolls.. Unless having a balanced view based on facts is the new definition of trolling....

I was pointing out that the models were predicting major damage.... sue me... 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 12:10 | 3157708 fuu
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I think this is one of my favorites:

"Clarity of logic, not to mention internal consistency, was a never a strong point of the Black Helicopter crowd....

I think the chin strap on the collander tends to be too tight thereby restricting blood flow to the brain..."

That's pure gold right there. Perhaps counter-trolling would have been a better word.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 12:16 | 3157736 Flakmeister
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Glad you enjoyed those... 

Much obliged... 

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:35 | 3156222 Zer0head
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Dreamliner has just become a Japanese nightmare

all passengers are safe

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:36 | 3156227 Dr. Engali
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So that's like what...21 days of printing for the Bernank? Pfffttt he can do that in his sleep.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:41 | 3156236 shovelhead
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How about "The No Guidos Left Behind" bill?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 21:48 | 3156260 Northern Lights
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Last I heard, the house where the Jersey Shore was filmed was spared by the storm.  Go figure.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:19 | 3156331 Papasmurf
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I heard that house had a nasty crack-up.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:02 | 3156288 Son of Loki
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Rich pay taxes? LMAO


Rich pay accountants, not taxes.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:11 | 3156309 Tombstone
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I hope this year Hurricane Barney blows into the big W and cleans up.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:40 | 3156382 Bryan
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What's the big deal?  Just get the Bernanke to print the 60 bills and move on.


Better yet - mint a $60B aluminum coin and then spend it on the hurricane.  Problem solved.  Sheesh, I don't know why the gov't boobs can't figure this one out.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:39 | 3156384 Mark123
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A massive storm gets $60 billion.


A handfull of wallstreet crooks gets $15 TRILLION.


The people sleep, cashing their food stamps and taking out government backed loans, shopping, watching TV.


A civilization quietly, painlessly dies.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:59 | 3156446 secret_sam
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Innumeracy could explain a lot, but that would never happen *here*.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:45 | 3156402 SilverFish
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Great, the "rich" get to pay for poor people to live close to the ocean.




Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:51 | 3156427 Bansters-in-my-...
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Looks like S.A.G and HAARP are paying dividends.

Look up people and wonder why the skies are never blue....
You is being Chemtrailed.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:37 | 3156556 Falconsixone
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NO! Those are contrails..... That's the con stich you ants

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 22:52 | 3156430 Pemaquid
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These people didn't have insurance? Why must we pay to rebuild in areas where housing should never have been built in the first place? Now they will throw up new housing so that the next storm can take it all back down. And what? We pay again?

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:00 | 3156452 secret_sam
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You realize that lower Manhattan hasn't flooded like that in over a hundred years, right?

We're not talking about the Midwestern floodplains...

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:09 | 3156475 Widowmaker
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You realize everything in Manhattan is insured to the sky, right?

Might as well call it the $60B giveaway to insurers.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:09 | 3156476 Pemaquid
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I repeat, these people didn't have insurance? No? Tough shit!

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:54 | 3156600 secret_sam
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        Now they will throw up new housing so that the next storm can take it all back down.

If the "next storm" occurs in 2113, I doubt anyone will remember you mentioned this. 

Do you have earthquake and flood insurance, yourself?

The whole take-home point from rare events is that they're *rare.*  If you live in Denver and have flood insurance, more power to you, take advantage of every benefit you can with your discretionary income. 

SOME folks would consider that a poor spending choice.

(I'll sell you some *comet* insurance, by the way.  How much coverage would you be needing?)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:15 | 3156642 Pemaquid
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You obviously do not buy into global warming, otherwise you would know that the 100 year storm is a thing of the past. And yes, I have earth quake insurance, but not flood insurance, because I know not to live in a flood plain. Anyone foolish enough to live there and NOT have flood insurance deserves what they get. The rest of us should not have to pay for their ignorance.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 11:59 | 3157689 secret_sam
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You'd have a point if Manhattan and the Jersey Shore are flood plains.  But they're not.  You might consider taking a look at a map someday.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:14 | 3158571 Clowns on Acid
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You might consider taking a look at the concept of actuarial tables you dumb fuck.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:09 | 3160558 secret_sam
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This is the best you can do?  No wonder your life is such shit.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 09:47 | 3157210 djsmps
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Have you ever heard of 100 year floods?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 12:03 | 3157694 secret_sam
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Yes.  When was the last flood of NYC and the Jersey Shore?  You're just clueless on the subject.

If you want to be specific and bitch about Coney Island and Far Rockaway, that's one thing. 

But this idea that folks in MOST of the area fucked up by Sandy "should've known better" is just idiotic.  That asshole above doesn't even have flood insurance.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:08 | 3158534 Clowns on Acid
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Presumably that 100 year stat was reflected in the insurance premiums you dumb fuck.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:15 | 3160577 secret_sam
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OK, dick-breath, given that you felt compelled to come at me with this bullshit not just once, but TWICE, I'll drop some knowledge for your worthless uninformed ass.

I'm friendly with a couple who own a house on Long Island who actually HAD THE FLOOD INSURANCE and haven't gotten paid yet because the insurers were waiting for the Feds to make a decision about whether there was going to be an aid bill passed.

Now shut the fuck up you stupid fucking cunt and go back to molesting your neighbors' inbred children. 


Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:08 | 3156473 azzhatter
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i hope that fat fuck christie chokes on a chicken bone when he chowing down with schumer and obammy

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:24 | 3156513 devo
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Imagine what GDP would  be if we could cloud seed hurricanes and rebuild demolished towns at will. Keynesian wet dream.

Tue, 01/15/2013 - 23:28 | 3156532 Falconsixone
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I'm still waiting for relief from the devastating Hurricane Banker that got downgraded to a congressional shrug in the shitter by the weathermen nobsucker.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:07 | 3156625 Say What Again
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I'm OK with helping people recover from disaster.   I'm NOT OK with people rebuilding in a known flood zone. 

I just watched a special on PBS about how the ocean levels are rising.  If someone wants to get financial aid, then they can not rebuild in a flood zone (e.g., next to the beach) with TAXPAYER money.  If someone wants to rebuild on the coast or in a flood zone, then use your own money, and good luck getting insurance.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 07:56 | 3157032 MyBrothersKeeper
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Insurance conpanies refuse to offer flood insurance in those the government provides it to an extent....although i'm not sure if the residents pay anything for it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:28 | 3156677 earleflorida
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Does anybody hear, remember the... 'Big Dig'?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 06:47 | 3156997 negative rates
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This country needs to be separated locally, and have regions and/or states each have their own insurance programs to fund their local disasters (much as parts of Social Security are now). Right now, as each region is affected, compensation in the form of pork reaches to all 4 corners of the country in a tit for tat congressional battle. Where as long as each regions constituents get an equal share over time to please the home crowd, at the expence of the remainders. Who did make more frugile choices to avoid the costly decisions that were concocked by our now obviously myopic dysfunctional gvt..

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 00:40 | 3156695 Jeepers Creepers
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How about the fact that every single Democrat (except 1) voted for this?  At least a majority of Republicans voted against this farce.  I'd like all of them to be like Ron Paul, but at least there's some Republicans that aren't gun grabbers or pork lovers.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 02:45 | 3156871 TheObsoleteMan
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Get a load of this: This is a true story. I live in a small town that was nearly leveled in 2004 by Hurricane Charley. Since it was an election year, {and other reasons I won't get into}, the Federal money {taxpayer money} poured into the area the next day. FEMA and a whole host of other agencies came in like the cavalry. They issued "ATM cash cards" to anyone who's zip code was on the disaster list. All that one needed to do, was take that card to any ATM, and you could get three withdrawals of $400, for a total of $1200. NO DAMAGES EVEN HAD TO BE PROVEN. Many of the people who got these cards, in fact MOST of the people who got these cards, had no damage at all. Some lived as far as sixty miles away from the storm! I was volunteering at the time at a substance abuse center. I heard over and over from the junkies there that they had got these cards, and went straight to their drug dealer, TRADING THEM FOR DRUGS. This is why it is best that disaster relief is best left to the Salvation Army {who was first on the scene} and the Red Cross. Let the Feds give them half as much money, and they could do twice as much relief as the Federal agencies can. When the Feds are involved, the money ALWAYS gets pissed away and mis-spent, or even worse, in the hands of criminals. I'm sure a fair amount was outright stolen too.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 03:07 | 3156887 rodgerleanne
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That does it!  Tomorrow I go to the county offices and change my party registration from Republican to Libertarian.  They are all venal and the USA is finished.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 07:53 | 3157029 MyBrothersKeeper
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3 Things:

1.  The new taxes generate about 120 B a year not 60 B as Tyler states.  The spending cuts in the new deal is only 15B.  So while it is not true that this bill wipes out all of the revenue from new taxes, it is true that it increased spending by double of the "spending cuts" in one bill. One thing conservatives can do better is to make sure their facts are facts and verifiable.  Over time it creates trust as the liberal math is usually pur bs.

2. I have been at odds with Grover Norquist at times but the reality is he is right.  What i'd like to see is more out of election cycle facts being projected to the public in real time.  I mean i got 50 flyers from them during the fall but why not air a tv commercial now right after this Sandy bill passesd and show all of the pork in it the bill and ask the question why is US so far in debt?  Then answer it with the pork in this bill and ask people to demand more from their elected officials. Name names.

3. I have been saying for weeks that the Dems will keep finding babies to hold up to put pressure on everyone to pass flawed legislation.  It was middle class taxpayers for the cliff, it was victims for the hurricane bill, now it is social security recipients for the debt ceiling. Again, conservatives need to do a much better job of making sure they bring up, every time, what the fight is REALLY about and not just the moniker that the DEms put forth.  The Dems have become masters of PR spin.  The GOP/conservatives need to combat that much better and until they do they will keep being painted into a corner with lose/lose propositions

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 07:58 | 3157034 More_sellers_th...
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I know I have a longer memory than the Average American, but can anyone tell me where 1 dime of the trillion dollar stimulous went? Shit that money just vaporized! And no one gives a rats ass.  Its comical

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 08:44 | 3157078 Coldfire
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World class performance. Third World, that is.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 09:06 | 3157104 Bee
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Why is $9.7 B needed for flood insurance?  Flood insurance has mandatory premiums paid by the homeowner.  Has the past money paid just gone into the General Fund?  I guess it must have been in the same lock box as Social Security.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 12:05 | 3157706 secret_sam
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     the same lock box as Social Security.

There's no such thing.  The Supreme Court made sure the guy who made noise about that lockbox didn't get to be Prez, remember?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 10:06 | 3157303 Joshua_D
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The spice must flow.

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