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All Aboard The Gold Repatriation Train: First Germany, Next: The Netherlands?
While moustachioed managers, contrary to the far better insight of their superiors, and mainstream spivs are trying to talk down Germany's somewhat stunning shift in thinking - i.e. to repatriate its gold - as nothing but political pandering (or cost-saving); it seems, just as we predicted, the rest of the world are seeing this crack-in-the-confidence-armor the same way we have suggested. As we noted here, the first party to defect from the prisoner's dilemma of all the bulk of global gold being held by the Fed, defects best (then the second, or even the third perhaps) and sure enough, via RTL, we see the Dutch CDA party has requested that Holland's gold supply be repatriated. Who next?
The Dutch government says it has 612 tonnes of gold - with a value of around E24 billion - and is thereby in the top 10 of countries with gold reserves. The bulk of the Dutch gold reserves is in America and, to a lesser extent, in Canada and the United Kingdom. The rest, about 10 percent, is in Amsterdam.
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42 years of fiat hell may just be about to end.
The best way to think of this gold repatriation panic is to remember the Burning Theater rule: If some people panic and run, other people will die. But if everyone walks calmly to the exit everyone will live.
So... what should you do?
RUN. RUN LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER.
The globe is in a house call! Who will default on the gold delivery, bitchezzzz?!?
Starting with a domino 5 millimeters tall and increasing each successive domino by 150%, the 29th domino will be large enough to topple the Empire State Building.
Unfortunately, the only means to ship the Dutch their very dangerous and cumbersome gold from NYC is mass-sponge-migration-tow along the Atlantic seabed.
ETA: 2020
Dutch gold is also buried underneath a lot of other stuff
They call this a positive feedback loop. Whoever they are.
You could fit 600 tons of gold in the back of a regular semi with room to spare.
I wouldn’t give you much for the suspension or the asphalt under the collapsed wheels, but volumetrically speaking, you could do it.
It's just a good thing that global mining capacity can replace all the leased gold that does not yet exist in short order.. or on a German time scale, 7 years.
A ton of gold is a 15 x15 x 15 inch cube
...So wait. The first two countries have most of their gold in the USA?
Um, more like most of their “notional” gold in the USA
--(hypothecated) gold and gold receivables.
Does anybody have any evidence at all, given the fiduciary performance of the elites in control of all banking, sovereign and commercial, that, the same practices that apply to all other “assets” do not apply to gold accounting?
..I didn’t think so.
"Only when the tide (gold) goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked."
it's a different kind of love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvsAqkOhI48
What's most problematic is that gold doesn't float (except during terrible storms). This complicates the feasibility studies somewhat, also, gold doesn't react to salt, and as everyone knows, salt does indeed float.
salt and no floating - sounds like Osama
I knew gold was heavier that steel, even heavier than lead. But that heavy? I thought you were exaggerating so I worked it out. You are correct. Wow! [14.2" actually]
Welcome to the party, pal!
Thanks, pal! The answer is: an Olympic sized swimming pool to a depth of 18 feet.
Just send them a few GLD shares. It's the same thing, right?
s/
I believe that's the plan...that or tungsten after the germans seperate the real from the foil wrapped.
See, it's who is last in line is the one that loses here.
And people call Hugo Chavez nuts... if memory serves correctly, he beat the Germans to the head of the line by about a year.
Crazy alright... crazy like a fox.
deep storage:
Shaysteh!
RTL Z beurscomentator Mathijs Bouman vindt dat terughalen van het Nederlandse goud logisch lijkt, maar het niet per se is: ''in 1938 is een flink deel van de Nederlandse goudvoorraad naar Londen en de VS verscheept. In de Tweede Wereldoorlog namen de Duitsers echter het goud dat in Nederland was achtergebleven mee. je kunt dus beter de goudvoorraden spreiden''.
Unless the Americans are the new Germans....
Oh come on, Ray. The sponges migrated about a foot and a half.
Johann van der Smut wants his gold back. He loves GOLD!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr0gNJ090JA
German ETA: 2020
(Bump, trample, trample, KERTHUMP, squish, squish...... Stretcher bearer!!!!)
Dutch ETA : 2013.
Eat shit, Buba.
It only takes 612 tons of gold to make the top-10 list?? God help us if countries want to try to buy gold to actually back up their currencies...
At least until Au is revaluated at $50k+/oz.
"Sure! Here are a pile of rehypothecation receipts. Go right ahead and find your gold."
2013, the year of vaporization
2013, long Tungsten, long Trees/Pulp
"Where is the GOLD???"
"Those are IOUs, they are as good as gold. That one is for 500 kilos, you might want to hang on to that one."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSXbgfKFWg
Speaking of rehypothetication...
There’s a simple, but very effective way to UN-HYPOTHECATE them. Just go to your bank and withdraw whatever money you have there – checking, saving accounts – all of it! Just leave a few hundred bucks to keep it open and, maybe, avoid paying the fee.
Every time you withdraw $10,000 of YOUR MONEY, you hurt them multiples of that… Basel II’s Capital Ratio requirement is 8%, so your freshly-withdrawn 10K actually costs your bank $125,000.
I ain’t no financial genius, nor an expert, but I figure that if a lot of people start withdrawing simultaneously (say within a week or a month), those bastards WILL feel it!
Looney
I use a credit union which is about the friendliest place I do business with. they have a low fee structure and online service is great, coffe in the lobby, what a deal
Credit unions are better but they probably hold your account and others in a master account at Bank America, Chase or some other shithole. Montana actually has a state bank.
+ 1
North Dakota as well.
a good ol fashion bank run will do the trick. bring down the house of cards real fast
"Every time you withdraw $10,000 of YOUR MONEY..."
YOUR MONEY... exactly. If you have your money in a bank, you're renting it to the bank. The bastards are lucky to have it and the rent is way too low. And they treat us like shit when we walk in there as if we're some sort of dirtbags who are lucky to even be their customers. Fuck that... THEY ARE THE LOWLY RENTERS. WE ARE THE OWNERS. I agree with you totally and 100% and completely. Take it away from them for a few months and see how long it takes for the arrogant bastards to start puking up blood. Not very freakin' long.
UN-REHYPOTHECATE = UnCorzined ?
even better than
is to take possession of good delivery bars of gold and silver (1000oz) right off the comex. each bar is leveraged, supposedly, 100x. just imagine the damage: each 1000oz good delivery silver bar delivered into private hands destroys 100,000 oz of derivatives (paper silver). same goes for gold. that is how one destroys the fraudulent system the quickest. not by withdrawing paper dollars or buying stupid eagles that are already de-leveraged.
realy??
are you suggesting that the central banks cannot print what was destroyed?? on the other hand, take 1000oz good delivery silver bar off any exchange and see "them" print a replacement bar. game over, for fiat, if enough silver bars is taken off the wholesale market.
And that is what they are doing with the US debt albeit a bit slower!
It's "Tradition" to ask for your "barbaric relic" back
45% of German gold sits in the US and they are planning to scale that back to 37% over the next 7 YEARS. Just seems more like housekeeping than some sinister, doomsday fiat armageddon. If the they suspected something was amiss, wouldn't they just try and take it all, in the next month? They are setting goals, 7 years out no-less, to have 1/2 THEIR gold on THEIR homeland. Seems reasonable for them to ask for a few of their barbaric relics back.
Agree green. But there ae two sides to every story. They may be doing this slowly so as not to cause a serious rise in gold pricing. One commentor may well have hit the nail on the head by stating they may indeed need to mine the gold to give to the Germans. I think there is a shift in trust amongst the CB's or this would not be happening. But who really knows.
barbarous
But here, even if no one runs, someone is going to die because they leased/ sold that gold long ago. Better go to Beijing for it.
"Hey Beavis....this is gonna be cool" uh huh huh huh
I just love this chain reaction ....
NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!
Next?
Auric Goldfinger: Forgive me, Mr. Bond, but, uh... I must arrange to separate my gold from the notorious Mr. Bernanke.
The only onew who will keep it in the USA or London will be the Dictators, Socialists, Communists, Crooks, and Politicians....the ones that might have to run at any moment
Members of the Congress, O'Hummer, the Fed and all 3 letter agencies?
The Germans and Dutch do not trust a usurper muslim community organizer. Who would have thinked-ed it?
Hope & Change-choom.
Aaron Swartz, his family and friends would have still voted for him with the rope around Aaron's neck and as the T--*S**A goons were kicking the chair under Aaron's feet.
Why the hell do you keep referring to him as a muslim when he has himself surrouded by the ones that despise Muslims the most, (many dual citizen) Ashkenazi Zionists? Are you trrying to throw the lesser thinking people off the scent of what's going on in the USA?
Yet Democrats, Marxists and the ilk still kling to the infinite spending, infinite debt and infinite money supply argument as somehow a good thing and no danger.
I think Germany and the Dutch see the end game.
And Democrats want to do away with the debt limit in the USA. Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/game-of-thrones-gold-...
Good God. If the gold is gone, and it most likely is, the entire world would be justified in an invasion. This will go down as the biggest wealth transfer in the history of the world. And those that took advantage of the gold smack downs by consuming the leased out gold will partake in the next one! HOLY COW this could be devastating to many........
Guys, don't worry. Our politicians are fully dedicated to the NWO and would never do anything to disrupt the coming formation of the global government and currency.
They might need a bit of cash on hand to give to Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, and France - that's all. Actually doing whatever is the best for the Netherlands or the Dutch people is MOST CERTAINLY not on their to-do list.
keep stacking...
love dat ass.
This will finally help to lower the Pirate unemployment rate
yeah, seems those somalians don't bother with the asking part.
Curse your fast fingers <grin>
Well the Netherlands is one of the last few AAA countries left so they better get to it.
and (like your guns).....stolen, rehypothicated, MF'd, Schtupped...its gone....http://youtu.be/_nVk25ZvTkU
The Dutch CDA party must meet in a coffee shop.
Repatriate?
Good luck with that.
Like calling your lunch money that the schoolyard bully stole yours while it sits in his pocket.
pods
In the US, the CDA would be called a "terrorist organization"
In Europe, we call them "cheap populists"
Long boats, paddling equipment.
"people all over the world
join in...
its called the Gold Train - Gold Train..."
hope the O'jays is cool with me jackin' their tune...
CENTRAL BANKS GONE WILD BITCHEZ..........
guess we know why mali and africas in the news. gota replace whats not in vault anymore
DING DING DING DING DING! YOU JUST WON A NEW 1986 FORD RANGER!
CDA lost a lot of seats in parliament lately. Maybe a popular move, but with only 10% in A'dam we should hurry... But, you were right Tylers, again. Next!
And cue Goldmember..."isn't that weird"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb3H6MWGCOo
Cleave US tentacles
Ya the writing is on the wall for WWIII as well and I've a strong desire to go back to work. Something doesn't seem right.
It's a wonderful life!!!
Old man Potter runs GLD.
How do they unrehypothicate all this shit.
Hope & Choom.
That film is total banker propaganda.
I'm taking my (Gold) football and going home.
All your gold are not belong to us.
All your gold are is our fair share.
Never going to happen.
Dutch parliment are a bunch of cowards.
They will be the last rats to go down with the ship.
If they insist, TPTB may have no choice but to turn to the one distraction big enough to change the subject: War.
fixed it:
"the Dutch CDA party has requested that Holland's TUNGSTEN supply be repatriated."
So when is the SHF? Like an overnight devaluation coming.
Who's going to do the big one first?
Japan deserves this honor me thinks
Why on earth anyone would trust the most indebted country in the world with the bulk of their gold is beyond me..
Like giving an thirsty alcoholic your finest bottle of vintage champagne for safe keeping saying you will pick it up next year
The power of perception is in the short term far stronger than numbers, logic or reality. ZH posters have been prediciting eminent doom for years yet we manage to muddle along. Of course, we are building the bridge further and further over the water and at some point, it will break. But the power of central banks is almost as strong as the world view that government's role is to take care of people. Those are are in a deadly embrace to the bitter end.
Zackly... Who knows what promises and threats are made with the scumbuckets of the world?
cause they were scared of the russians
2013 THE year the system finally blows up?
About time, I've been waiting for this since 2010...
2006 for me - and the wife is really pissed cuz I told her we'd be rich within 5 years - hurry it up dammit!!!
Watch two Keiser Reports and call me in the morning.
When he says "$500/oz silver" it's like I just took a percoset.
"Devaluation? Devaluation? Like Yen 400:1 buck, (soros guy) do they sell $ 1 trillion in treasury bonds first.
Exit stage left..... quick, close those mines, platinum is a strategic asset...smart guys.
gun registration then GOLD REGISTRATION.....oops.
Beware of Germans bearing Gold Certificates...
A good counter argument:
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/01/16/bringing-the-gold-home/
Indeed.....what if it is truly all there?
As far as I know the only evidence that gold is missing is the word of blog posters and You Tube videos. I have heard nothing factual suggesting that it does not exist. Now, it may very well have vanished but I'll need more evidence than someone "knows" because Aunt Tildy said cousin Sarah's third husband had an inside scoop.
I agree, and if gold is missing then joe public will be the last to know
Joe public still believes US$ is backed by GOLD.
FOFOA believes that the gold is there as advertised.
And he sees gold (physical) going to $55,000 after the reset.
It is all there, just try to get it back.
Good luck Gremany.
Whether it's all there isn't the main takaway. It's that the current paper system is built solely on trust, and gold repatriation is the opposite of trust. If people start asking why CBs want their gold back, maybe they will wake up to the fact that gold is money, not the paper they've been told is money.
I don't see their Gold coming back. It's gone, been sold into the market. After a loss of trust comes a widespread rejection of the US Dollar, followed by a bond market collapse is my best guess.
The Dutch aren't in the same situation as the Germans.
Once the Euro dies and Europe descends into total anarchy once again and the tanks roll through the "low countries" again, then the Dutch will suddenly remember why they parked their gold here in North America.
Wonder if the Somali pirates freelance in other territorial waters.
That would be hilarious if another navy came in and attacked the ship.
Modern piracy ... for 600 tons? Yep, that would be worth it.
You know what, these dumb bastards actually don't deserve to have their gold back. Why would you willingly take your national wealth and ship it across the sea to be housed under the Schwartz. You deserve it you tulipy bastards.
i never thought about this, but how much gold was 'repatriated' from iraq? did they keep gold reserves?
Are you implying that leaders that were put into power and position by the US no longer served their purpose as puppet leaders and somehow, somewhere the gold of Libya, Iraq, and soon Mali, are unaccounted for?
..just ask'n
...maybe...i actually blacked out when i typed that so i have no idea where it came from
When the guy holding your gold says "gold isn't money" and the only reason to hold it is "tradition" you should maybe take it out of his hands.
miss expectations...a new golden rule?
(S) he who holds the gold makes the rules...? Missed Expectations.
The last ones to come to this party will quickly learn of the phrase, " all that glitters isnt gold"
Love musical chairs, especially for REAL money..
More like "beauty is only skin deep".
If other countries asked for their Gold, most probably they will get their first installment and than,
http://www.worldofdiets.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cartoon-of-man-wi...
They will get installments of depleted uranium.
Kind of funny but gold and silver took a little jump with this article......oops ..back down again
The funnier thing is that they do not want it in gold bars...they want it recast in gold butt plugs......that is cooler in the Netherlands...
Where is The Honorable Jon Corzine to fix this mess?
Sorry...took a lot to write the adjective before the pricks name...
The Fed: "Easy one to solve. We buy that gold on the open market, by printing and driving down the AU Options exactly when we buy. Open & shut time-window, to outflank the Chinese and damn Goldbugs. We buy over a time-frame to our liking. The Dutch shell comply with our schedule. QED!"
I nominate you for the next open Fed slot. A nation with our problems needs this sort of creative forward-looking thought. You'll fit in if you can keep up the gag.
How's that go? "When the tide goes out you see who has been swimming naked".
I have to say that I was somewhat dismayed when they were stress testing the European banks,and they gave a gold star to them and then they imploded a few months later (Dexia).
I am starting to wonder about all the stuff (not) in the vaults under WTC after 9/11...
This is beginning to sound like the Warren commission JFK / Oswald stuff...
I hate it when this stuff becomes mainstream,the new normal.
That rumbling sound is the founding fathers spinning in their graves.....
Trust in God, but not your Gold to the Central Bankers and the Bearded One. Both Ben and Uncle Sam sport beards but they do not sit on the right hand of God. They sit next to Dimon, Blankfien and Polititians who will debase your currency and then confiscate your savings and gold sitting in their vaults and Wall St.(GDX) Time to park your Gold closer to home with proper security against predators. The point is nobody can trust anyone anymore in our financial system which has lost complete credibility as witnessed by budget process, deficits, fiscal cliff, tax policy, shadow bank practices, lax regulation and other contradictory national and international policies. The mess is widening exponentially and no amount of feeble deleveraging can save us. The Party is just starting
I thought it telling the German press release gave a time frame of 'by 2020' instead of what they politically could not say, 'no later than next month'.
Which by the way IS by 2020............
Who's next? Everybody. The mad scramble is on. This is all about the end game. The bankers aren't stupid. Psychopaths maybe, but not stupid. They can see the fiat edifice is not playing by Keynes' rules, and is crumbling. At some point in the near future, the end game will being in earnest, where fiat currencies fail. Of course, fiat will be replaced by something else, but for survival in interim, and a a jockying position for the NWO, the yellow metal is the stuff.
Clearly, these guys didn't see any of this coming,and so don't have a clue what's coming next. So they are hedging thier bets. Repatriate gold? Costs nothing? Sounds good to me. Ben pissed? Well, stretch it out a little.
However, the people who predicted the collapse of 2008, and the crisis to follow, are better prognosticators than pud bankers.
Heineken.. Liquid Gold
Man the FED's gonna need alot more tungstun!
That's why they're phasing out the incandescent light bulbs. That tungsten has to come from somewhere.
You do wonder if some of the smaller nations keep it in the US because they also have idiot electorates eager to get their "fair share."
I mean, just like over here, I could see politicians deciding to liquidate all of their gold holdings for some short term stimulus (ie paying back the special interests that got them elected.) Poof, and entire stockpile of gold gone to bolster up a flailing party leader. It wouldn't be the first time.
I'm not saying the US is any better, but for a long time, we were the stable and sensible nation. Now, it's far risker for the US to hold it.
Suppose this is because the Treas. designated the "Reserve" @ WP to "Custodial" gold?
Wow - I lived in the Netherlands for several years and I am totally amazed that the Dutch only have 10% of their gold at home - much less having so much of it stashed with the US fed. My guess is that the Dutch public had no idea, and will be outraged at whatever politicians/bankers allowed this to happen. The Dutch are VERY serious about money and about handling financial matters properly. Just opening a bank account in the Netherlands was one of the most agonizing ordeals I've ever been through. So it will be very interesting to see the public reaaction - and my guess is that it isn't going to be 2020 before 100% of their gold is back home. In fact I'll bet a planeload of Dutch Marines ( very very tough customers) is warming up for a flight to New York at this very moment to bring it all home.
That "agonizing ordeal" of opening an account in Holland was brought to you courtesy of FATCA.
And now do we all see why the Total Ninnies had to float that ridiculous Platinum Godzilla Coin fantasy?
Those who were around in the 1997-2000 period see that History IS repeating itself - except in a creepy, crawly, and totally banal Through the Looking Glass fashion.
In the US and UK, those on BOTH fringes of economic and political reality have somersaulted out of Merely-Crazyland into 100-Percent-Deluded territory.
Oh, well - couldn't be better for Gold and Silver, which we now have a sacred obligation to explain to our Radical Middle.
hot potato
golden shower
Wouldn't you rather play a nice game of chess instead?
Algeria has a lot of gold.... more than you'd expect.... maybe this is what everyone is after in Algeria ?
Ranked 23rd on World Gold Holdings ;
http://en.lemag.ma/Algeria-The-debt-is-over--4-billion-and-gold-reserves...
Actually, no .... just because they have requested their gold back doesn't mean that they will get their gold back. Germany, and every other country that we owe gold or dollars to, have a huge problem; they can't collect it against the USA's will and they know it. This is whee theory stops and real politik takes over. In theory they can get their gold back; in practice they cannot and will not. They, like Spain and every other EU country are not allowed to cross the Atlantic without USA permission. (That is why LA countries can nationalize EU companies also.). So, sorry Fritz - thank-you for you request - the gold is in the mail, Love Ben.
The Dutch were greatly relieved to find out that most their gold is safe in..... New New Amsterdam
...and since it takes 7 years for Germany to get 300 ton,s the Dutch can expect theirs in 2027, no worries.
Uncle Benny I want look in the safe please can I????
Are foreign central banks now afraid of confiscation?That could never happen again could it?Maybe old Hugo Chavez was right to get the gold back home and out of the hands of a bunch of crooks.
7 years to procure 300 tons of german gold? That 300 tons of german gold is actually what they call in the BERNANKOSPHERE "transitory". Sometimes its 300 tons and sometimes its 216 tons of U.S. Reserves, and sometimes it belongs to the Netherlands who will soon be requiring it be sent to their country to which it will take Hel0-Ben 7 years to 'procure'. Don't you smell something in the New York Fed's pants about now?
I know heavy construction and it wouldn't take 7 years to move 300 tons of steel, no sir-ee!
Put a platoon of SpecForce guys with heavy machine guns and get'er done!
Take about 2 weeks.
OJO
V-V-
When comedy becomes reality, all you can do is shake your head and laugh!
After they all consolidate...
Will there be as much gold as they say there is?
I think all of the gold is there, it's just that there are ten or twenty people who believe they are sole owners of each bar.
Like musical chairs, no one wants to be the last standing request. You know what they're going to get.
Dam you all do not get it Obama will do another EO under the Emergency Powers Act and confiscate all the gold stored here. After all possession of the gold is 9/10ths of the the law!
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Canada is storing Dutch gold?
Where?
Scotia Macotta on Bay & King, the "Bullion Bank" or the equivalent of the Fed up in Ottawa, which is… Ummm… Ah…?
Have they rehypothicated my gold to the goddamn dyke-men?!?
Are they going to rehypoticate my BoNS gold certificates?
Will I even know?
Oh! I bought physical! Whew!
OJO
V-V
PS. How fast did Chavez get his hundred tons of gold back in 2011? Gerries want 45% of their 3400 tons, so lets say about 1600 tons. Umm… Math… Umm… 16 trips. 7 years? Where's that darn smoke machine again?
Good thing these guys aren't drug dealers. Jus' sayin'. Not that I really know how that shit works. But you know, there are some important analogies to be drawn: Show me da weed/blow/gold!
You've been holding my weed/blow/gold! Where is my weed/blow/gold! I can't see it? Oh. <Get the guns…>
Not that I really know anything about that, but it seems to be a rather good way to conduct oneself, eh?
"Oh don't worry! That's a good weigh! You don't need to scale your weed/blow/gold!"
As my Dad used to say! "Trust! But Verify!" and "In God I Trust! All Others Pay Cash!"
Your dad was a bumper sticker?