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Via Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

Sometimes the writing on the wall seems painfully obvious. But occasionally it's a good idea to step back and look at the big picture:

1) The Land of the Free is set to impose fresh restrictions on firearm ownership... to include a ban on assault weapons, increased background checks, psychological screenings, and criminalizing ammunition magazine clips with a capacity beyond ten rounds.

And if they can't pass these measures by law, the President is prepared to enforce them by royal decree, i.e. executive order.

It's amazing that people have become so fearful, they are now abdicating one of the most fundamental responsibilities of humanity-- protecting and safeguarding our families.

Instead, many Americans are choosing to outsource this responsibility to the same folks who bathe them in radiation at airports, spy on their phone calls and emails, wage senseless wars in foreign lands... and have a horrible track record of screwing up everything they try to do.

Great idea, seems like a hell of a trade-off.

2) The German central bank has announced that they will begin withdrawing their massive gold holdings from the United States.

In what is likely to be the first move among many other sovereign nations, it's clear that governments no longer trust each other, and that the goodwill of the United States is being viewed with increasing suspicion.

As gold holdings flee the United States, how long will it be before they 'close the window' and ban gold exports? Do you really want to find out first hand?

3) The United States government is just weeks away from defaulting on its mountain of debt. Having already technically breached the debt ceiling, their only temporary fix is to seize federal pensions and engage in fraudulent accounting tricks.

Obviously this forebodes a number of potential consequences-- seizure of private retirement accounts, capital controls, etc.  And yet, people in US will merely trust that their government is going to 'fix it', and do absolutely nothing to hedge their bets.

4) European politicians have declared an end to the euro crisis. Notwithstanding the wave of riots across the continent, or the record level of unemployment that was just reached this month, politicians are engaging in self-congratulatory back-slapping for their courageous handling of the crisis.

At this point, Europe has almost become a caricature... its politicians like monocled cartoon villains, twirling their moustaches in dark room.

Absolutely nothing has changed on a fundamental level. Most countries still have massively high debt burdens, pension obgliations, and deficits. And they're still living hand to mouth on the backs of German taxpayers and quantitative easing.

Pretending that the situation has magically resolved itself is either the height of incompetence or intellectual dishonesty.

Curiously, most people seem to know this. Yet they will do absolutely nothing.

They know, for example, that a US default is an entirely feasible option on the table. They understand that the consequences would be disastrous. And yet, most folks will do nothing and simply hope for the best.

The best response is to take steps which make sense in either scenario... no matter what happens.

You won't be worse off for taking control of your retirement account. You won't be worse off for holding some of your hard-earned savings in a strong, stable bank overseas, in a jurisdiction where your politicians can't seize it. You won't be worse off for having some precious metals stashed away overseas... or owning productive land abroad.

All of these steps make sense no matter what. And it's an important strategy to adopt.

 


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Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:30 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Meh...

Shit happens...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:37 | Link to Comment Mr Pink
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I'm still having a problem understanding people in this country.

If they watched that press conference and weren't disgusted by those ghoulish, lying vampires then they really need an intervention.

I feel like throwing up as soon as they open their mouths

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:41 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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"You won't be worse off for holding some of your hard-earned savings in a strong, stable bank overseas, "

So those living in countries other then the US, should store their wealth in US Banks?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:57 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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Name one place US jurisdiction doesn't reach these days - it's as if we think we own the planet and act on that assumption.  Remember DVD Jon - their courts finally woke up and realized what he did wasn't illegal where he lived, but it was a close call.

Remember secret swiss bank accounts?  No longer secret.

If you can't hold it, you don't own it.  It's a farce to think somewhere else on this planet, most of it in even worse shape, is safer.  Wish on, I just heard hope is actually a viable invesetment strategy, and since it was in print, it must be true, right?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:03 | Link to Comment trav777
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banks can provide you what you want but it's going to cost you.

Identity is available for a price, everywhere.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Enslavethechild...
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Property taxes force you to be a slave no matter where you live.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 19:22 | Link to Comment Oleander
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Devil Patrick has proposed an increase in income tax and sales tax. Increase in gas tax to .51 cents and 2.4 cent per mile tax on mileage. WTF! Most of do not live in or around Boston. Nor do we give a shit about rail service to Hyannis. I hope Obomba has a place for him in DC. 

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment madcows
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Well, you'll certainly be pissed when Deval runs for President and wins.  All the morons that voted for the Vote-Buyer-in-Chief are most certainly going to vote for the Gubnah of Massive-Two-Shits.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 19:13 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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+1000

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:06 | Link to Comment AgAu_man
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I'd tell ya, as I've done my own dilligence during the years I worked for a "Fortune 50" and collected many airmiles to far away places, but then we'd both have the Fed trolls going after that place too.  Screw 'em!  B4 they screw you.

But yes, young Paduan, there ARE places.  Big, mothertrucking :-)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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I'll name one place US jurisdiction doesn't reach these days - Russia

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:25 | Link to Comment Pool Shark
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North Korea?

Cuba?

Albania?

[of course; I wouldn't want my money in any of those places...]

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Whalley World
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Just got back from two weeks in Cuba (Awesome)  was there in Feb 2012 and the tourist peso (CUC) was par to Canadian Dollar.

Now for Canadian Dollar gets 96 CUC and get this.... the Big Dollar (USD) gets 86! 

Fidel says bend over Yankee's

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:35 | Link to Comment leftcoastfool
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I'm pretty sure the Cook Islands still thumb their noses at the US authorities, but good luck trying to move there...

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 00:17 | Link to Comment Mike7.62
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I want to know which foreign jurisdiction besides Switzerland that will allow either citizens or non citizens to own military style firearms such as the AR or AK, or handguns. I've been to most third world shi'ite holes in the Middle East, Far East and Central America, and so far haven't found any that will do so without jumping through many .gov hoops, and it's usually the upper class wealthy that get the proper permissions. As bad as the USA gets, at least here I own the means to defend myself already, and can understand them when they say "Let's kill him".

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 15:41 | Link to Comment thisandthat
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Jersey. You can pretty much own any weapon, there, but good luck relocate, unless you're (very) loaded - you need a permit (not likely) and even if you get it, housing (renting, owning) is, to put it mildly, expensive as shit.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:57 | Link to Comment mumbo_jumbo
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why wouldn't those overseas governments just do the same thing the US government will do? seize assets to pay for business as usual?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:55 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Some aren't as desperate.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Xibalba
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I wonder, at what point did Romans begin to despise their citizenship?  Was it during inflation? Invasion? The Chirstian revolution?  But what was the tipping point???  I can only imagine what histoy books will tell in 25 years....because I'm beginning to despise my US passport and everything it represnts.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:58 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Just now? Have you been asleep for the last decade?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:00 | Link to Comment Doubleguns
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Dispise the govt not the passport and certainly not the country.  

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:25 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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It doesn't represent ANYTHING! That's all just one giant, indoctrinated fiction existing wholly within your own mind.

Did it ever occur to you that there's nothing real about citizenship, other than you consenting to your own enslavement?

Meanwhile, you're likely blaming everyone but yourself for this trauma.

Consent of the governed, bitchez!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment verum quod lies
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A nation and citizenship meant something (blood links and a common culture) until the cultural Marxists/parasites who control most of the media, academia, big businesses, and politicians decided all white countries would be flop houses for the third world until they replaced the natives (the definition of genocide by the way). So, yes, a US passport has very little meaning today but it wasn't always so and who knows how things may shake out over the next decade or two as the current process of economic and cultural implosion plays out.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:49 | Link to Comment koncaswatch
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Bingo!

That is exactly what a passport represents: the holder's obligations to the country of issue.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:06 | Link to Comment mumbo.jumbo
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in enlightened circles passports are called slave cards...

and while we are at it, up until WWI practically pretty much no passports were needed to travel around, and when needed it was "a means of helping his subjects prove who they were in foreign lands". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport#History)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:13 | Link to Comment verum quod lies
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"Bingo", said the troll with a passport.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Thanks for remiding me.A couple of mine are due for renewal.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:44 | Link to Comment WarHorse
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Yes - but some slave owners are more civil than others

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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"Did it ever occur to you that there's nothing real about citizenship, other than you consenting to your own enslavement?"

There is a basis for that in nature. Male hunter-gatherers were stuck in their tribes whether they wanted to be there or not. If a male left his tribe, he was likely to be killed by another tribe, or not be able to reproduce. Maybe that's why there is so much support for whatever hellhole one is stuck in - there wasn't a viable choice and that belief is still with us.

The outcome wasn't so bad for wandering females.

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Love "European leaders declare an end to the debt crisis."

With falling real GDP across the board? It looks like it is just beginning!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/game-of-thrones-gold-...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:29 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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You know, you could be a little more subtle with your constant fucking spamming.

If you've got something to say to us, at least make an effort to say it here.

Nobody respects a blog pimp.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 19:46 | Link to Comment Nobody
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No I don't either!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment CheapBastard
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President resigns after riots leave 22 dead in Argentina

 

President Fernando De la Rua resigned and fled the government palace in a helicopter, driven from office by a devastating economic crisis and days of rioting that left 22 people dead and homes and supermarkets across Argentina ransacked.

De la Rua's sudden downfall yesterday came amid Argentina's worst unrest in a decade. Screeching tear gas canisters arced across the capital and police fired rubber bullets at thousands of anti-government protesters in the runup to his fall.

Rioters looted houses and stores in other cities, and more than 200 people were injured nationwide.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-91169/President-resigns-riots-leave-22-dead-Argentina.html#ixzz2IAXylsoK
Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:56 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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Bush administration?  From the article...

Before De la Rua's resignation, a senior White House official said President George W. Bush's administration would wait for the dust to settle before deciding what, if any, action to take to help Argentina recover.

The official said limited direct financial assistance has not been completely ruled out, although the Bush administration still wants Argentina to resolve its problems through the International Monetary Fund.

Earlier, U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill said the Bush administration, the IMF and the World Bank would continue working with Argentina to pull it back from the brink of economic collapse.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-91169/President-resigns-riots-leave-22-dead-Argentina.html#ixzz2IAbwlCKt
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Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:59 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Is this today's news or old news?  Seems like old news, but then I'm not following Argentina right now...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:00 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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This happened in 2001...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:57 | Link to Comment koncaswatch
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I believe the Lady president of Argentina now is Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:26 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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Flying around the world in a rented jet begging for money, if I remember correctly.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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"You won't be worse off for holding some of your hard-earned savings in a strong, stable bank overseas, "

 

Because the banks overseas are far more trustworthy than the banks over hear. I only have faith in one bank...and that's the bank of Engali.....I'm still looking for my bailout though.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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I only have faith in one bank as well: The Bank of Sealy Posturepedic

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:39 | Link to Comment ihedgemyhedges
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Yep that's a great bank. And it serves 3 valuable purposes: safely holding your cash, comfortably getting your sleep and screwing your chick like a mad dog.....

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:49 | Link to Comment AlaricBalth
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I use AnyBank.  ;-)

Their motto: We're AnyBank. We're richer than you think

http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/anybank_60_second_ad/

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:22 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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If you have a bed buddy it will hold your second best friend as well. 12 gauge tactical,...ready to hand.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:51 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Yeah, where the fuck is MY helicopter full of money!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment AGuy
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"Yeah, where the fuck is MY helicopter full of money!"

Well, the helicopters were replaced with B-52's to provide liquidity to the TBTF banks. Unfortunately the TBTF need so much money, that there is no chance of your delivery.. Unless your TBTF!

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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In Engali he trusts.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Cap Matifou
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Banks in overseas will not talk to you, but point to the door.

http://genevalunch.com/blog/2012/06/21/swiss-banks-step-up-efforts-to-id...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:42 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Not if you present a US passort to open them.

No problem with another.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:34 | Link to Comment ReeferMac
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Ya know, he's right!

 

I'll quit my 12-dollar-an-hour part-time job and take my $52.68 in savings, sell my 10-year old Minivan (it IS a Honda...), and with that cash go start my new life in some south american padagonian paradise! I'm sure I can get acres and acres of productive land for pennies, and the local's will no doubt welcome a gringo like me w/ open arms and unilateral trust, because, ya know, American's are perceived as being soooo trustworthy.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment CaptainSpaulding
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Lucky you. I moved to beautiful Jamaica... (Queens)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment AgAu_man
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I sympathise with your current (?) fiscal position.  But I hope you've at least figured out that YOU are not Simon's target-prospect.  Never spoke to the guy, but I figured out some time ago, that he's looking to help people with 5-7 figure investment region.

You know, "Money talks ... walks."

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:07 | Link to Comment BooMushroom
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Yeah, poor bastards like us can't really use the "action items" from this article at all.

But there HAVE been other tidbits here on ZH that we can use on occasion.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:37 | Link to Comment youngman
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I stepped so far back...I fell over the cliff.......

All these things you mentioned...are facts...truths..but yet it still seems to be plugging along..gold and silver down..bonds at all time highs and people...things still buying them...stocks to the moon...and everyone on welfare...and the New York Tribe gets huge bonuses

I moved to Colombia..own land...had a bank account the the Feds made that just to hard to keep open....waiting for that some day when " the shot heard round the world " happens....

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:35 | Link to Comment CheapBastard
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I'm relieved that there Eurocrisis has ended. I was beginning to worry.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:39 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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only ended in the media

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Yeah, for a while there it looked like Greece, and maybe even Spain might be in some trouble.  Lucky they got it all worked out.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:36 | Link to Comment maxw3st
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The only point I disagree with is that the US has any chance of defaulting on its debt. GOP congress can posture all it wants, but at the end of the day, the debt ceiling is a "house rule", self–imposed by the GOP members of congress. It's an entirely unenforcable rule under the constitution. Congress cannot pass legislation that involves spending, and then refuse to pay for the spending.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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if, and that's a big IF, they had balls they would start defunding programs

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment SKY85hawk
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So, THEY promised us $210 billion spending cuts This Year.  

"2011, when the debt limit was increased by $2.1 trillion in return for $2.1 trillion in spending cuts over ten years."

see

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-16/here-comes-sequester-and-another-1-cut-2013-gdp

  What's the plan for 2013?  Or, did the Gummint also  IGNORE the promised cuts in 2012?

 

THEY also ignored the $100 billion suggested by CBO (Congressional Budget Office), also a yearly number!

 

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2009/10/50-examples-of-government-waste#_edn5 

I'm sure other readers can add to this list!

 

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:07 | Link to Comment AGuy
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While there are no budget cuts for 2013, you'll be happy to know that Washington did take action. They have choosen to raise your taxes for 2013. while this will not decrease the Budget deficit it will avoid the deficit from getting larger as out lays for Social Security,Medicare and Wealthfare. are rising. You should also be happy that your health insurance premiums will be increasing by about 20% in 2013 and another 40% by 2016 for ACA (O'bamacare). While this will not do anything to stem rising Medicare costs, it will help decrease the number of people able to afford Health Insurance.

Please be sure to complain to Washington as the will consider further tax increases to address your concerns. Thank you and have a nice day!

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:36 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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You do not appear to understand the Constitution.  If the specific dollar amount is not stated in the legislation (and most legislation that results in spending does not authorize a specific dollar amount), then no appropriations have been authorized.  Period.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 00:47 | Link to Comment odatruf
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It seems you don't understand it either...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:38 | Link to Comment AccreditedEYE
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Simon, we call that #winning here in 'Merka. I had someone point that out to me the other day.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:39 | Link to Comment TraderTimm
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I await the US Dollar devaluation scenario. Preceded of course, by a presidential announcement that we would "never devalue our currency." Maybe if they spin it right, they can fool everyone into thinking it reduces the debt.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment q99x2
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I think you convinced Q99X2 to go back to work. Like quick.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:45 | Link to Comment stiler
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no, sovereign man won't be grexiting anytime soon.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:45 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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It's 9:30 am in Quito and it has only warmed up to 55 degrees Fahrenheit.  Must be global cooling.  It is never too early to buy a parka, and you never know when you will need it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:48 | Link to Comment Fezter
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Hey, lets try Communist Socialism, maybe that will save us....wait a minute....they tried that already....never mind.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment alangreedspank
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Point #1, very well said.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:58 | Link to Comment enloe creek
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so let's say I own productive land in botswanna or some place what the fuck good will that do? really do you plan to hire locals to work it and pay you from the profits or what? put down your rose colored laptop 

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:06 | Link to Comment trav777
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locals in RSA tell me that mozambique and even nigeria are offering free land and money just please come here and farm.

Meanwhile, RSA and Zimbabwe remain in full reverse.  My 2nd driver there was like every time they take a farm away, another 1000 people go unemployed.  Yes, he was a bleck men.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:00 | Link to Comment AgAu_man
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"You won't be worse off for holding some of your hard-earned savings in a strong, stable bank overseas, in a jurisdiction where your politicians can't seize it. You won't be worse off for having some precious metals stashed away overseas... or owning productive land abroad."

Agreed.  Uncommon 'common sense' advice to mitigate 3rd party risks, i.e. Monetary, Fiscal & Taxation, and Regulatory risks.  All risks caused by TBTFail, TBTJail, BigBro.gov.

And yet, the frogs are not jumping, judging by the responses that will be forthcoming:  They will be happy to co-bitch about the water being too warm, and would someone else please do something about it.  Or how they are more clever, since they keep adding ice cubes to their part of the pot.  Or what clever ideas they have and someone might want to act upon.  Or just curse the 'pot-attendant' with some less-than-clever expletives, or, or, or...  Anything but frikkin "jump". 

/sarc off.

"Jump, you damn Frogs! JUMP!"  I have...

80% of my Frog-assets  are safer by being in several places on the globe (true global diversification).  Places I've been to many times and know extremely well.  No, not shilling for Simon, as my Frog-butt is in my own care, not his.  But I agree 100% with his position and general advice. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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And if they can't pass these measures by law, the President is prepared to enforce them by royal decree, i.e. executive order.

But just before that, expect Scalia to have a heart attack or to retire due to ``family matters``...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment laomei
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Point #1, unfortunately none of that is true.

Point #2, they have the right and it's not really all that shocking

Point #3, no default will happen on the debt.  Interest is only like 300b a year and easily paid for with taxes.  what WILL happen is payment freezes for everything else

Point #4, meh, everything's fucked anyway... enjoy the ride.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment SmoothCoolSmoke
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3) The United States government is just weeks away from defaulting on its mountain of debt. Having already technically breached the debt ceiling, their only temporary fix is to seize federal pensions and engage in fraudulent accounting tricks.

 

DC will be raised.  And guys like this will be saying, "Well, everyone knew they would raise it".  Instead of saying, "Well. i certainly had my head up my ass on that one.  Do not listen to my BS anymore.  Thanks"

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:55 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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The DC is not the operative issue.

The Continuing Resolution is.  It would be combined in any DC deal, and it is IT which defines spending.

It expires March 31, defined during the Aug 2011 DC agreement to ensure it went past the election.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:58 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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I have a simple plan. Raze DC.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 01:13 | Link to Comment AgentScruffy
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Speaking of D.C. --I live here, and in the past month got nailed for an insane $500 in "speed cam" tickets ---turns out they mounted the cam in the K Street tunnel. There's a natural dip there, and everyone picks up speed w/out trying.

Sick greedy bastards.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:06 | Link to Comment electricgorilla
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The question is why now? Why do they want the guns now. Surely the sandy incident didn't have anything to do with it. If that were the case we would have been doing this during columbine, virginia tech, aurora, whatever. So there is more to this. I think once they seize the weapons then the real drama unfolds.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:38 | Link to Comment AgAu_man
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Ditto.  I smell the mother of all False Flags coming.  A lot of Bushama's team are bailing.  Family, health...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:07 | Link to Comment aerojet
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The 23 executive orders were a whole bunch of nothing.  Some of the actually make sense--encouraging schools to create resource officer programs, for example.  The public health stuff is just bs--they tried to make gun violence a public health issue in the past and those who didn't lie, found out pretty quickly that violence in the US has very little to do with middle class people and that gun accidents happen, but they are nothing compared to really big killers like, oh, car accidents.

Obama receives a lot of ire from the gun lovers, but sometimes I think he is a double-agent and that he needs to appease his base, but that he really doesn't want this fight at all.  We shall see.  Andrew Cuomo, on the other hand, must be a full-on fanatic freak.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:46 | Link to Comment eddymunster
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-1 for thinking obammy is on my side.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:13 | Link to Comment adr
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Let's take a step back and look at the insanity of just today.

Apple surges 5% because analysts who still have a $750+ target on the stock say concerns are overblown. Yeah right. Of course all the bad news may just be cover to make more dough when Apple creates the world greatest fudge in a week or so. Imagine the stock shooting up $300 in a couple days.

Google drops close to 2% because Farcebook announces an internal search engine and partnership with Bing. Wow, Farcebook will let me search my friends likes and dislikes and let me find out what my friends like. WOW BECAUSE I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MY FRIENDS AT ALL!!!

Obama announces gun control that is almost completely tied to health care. Letting hospitals know there isn't a law that says they can't ask patients about guns. Also that there isn't a law that prevents them from reporting threats. From what it looks like there will be about 13 new agencies crated to monitor health care gun control.

I think we need to monitor and enact dental control. Those guys are always poking people with sharp objects and torturing poor souls by drilling holes in their teeth. I'm pretty sure waterboarding isn't even close to a root canal with a dose of novacaine that was too small.

While we're at it. Doctors keep cutting up patients, removing vital organs. Sure they claim they are saving lives, but how do we really know. If I'm unconscious and George Soros needs a new liver, and I'm a match...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:33 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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Adr:  Apple surged 5%, tOmBama's gun control is tied to health care:  Apple and health care have a future together:

 

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/07/24/all-americans-will-receive-a-mic...

 

Every person will be tracked via his 'smartphone'.  All payments will be made that way.  They will know where you are at all times, what you think (that's why Farcebook is setting up its 'own' search engine, to more closely monitor your thinking habits) and how much money you have, where you spend it, and so forth.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Mad Mohel
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Stopped reading at "ammunition magazine clips". What is this guy, a limey? If so, thanks for your input, but you people proved you don't know shit about shit. Bye.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:35 | Link to Comment dobermangang
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Japan is still the black swan.  Everybody forgets about Japan.  I hope Kyle lets me in his bunker when the SHTF.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Pumpkin
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I know I sound like old record that just keeps repeating but, Title 18 Section 7 of the US code defines the territorial jurisdiction of the United States and says THREE TIMES, THAT IT DOES NOT EXTEND INTO THE SEVERAL STATES.  Only land within a state that title and jurisdiction has been ceded by the state legislature is within that territorial jurisdiction.  Look it up, it is only about one page. And then tell everyone you know!!!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:07 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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but tell it to them softly. An 8' by 8' cell in a FEMA camp will definately make you a Citizen of the USA as opposed to a sovereign resident of these several states.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:15 | Link to Comment Acidtest Dummy
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The Hague has a war criminal deficit, we (USA) have a war criminal surplus -- let's start there.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:32 | Link to Comment Bobportlandor
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Don't you all get it, it doesn't matter what the crisis is, what laws are broken, there is know one on the opposite side to call them on it.

There are different rules to follow when playing poker, and we all entered a game called Open Stakes.

In Open stakes even if you hold a Royal Flush: Ace, King, Queen, Jack and 10, U loose if you can't come up with the cash.

They can hold  7 5 4 3 2 and beat you all day.

People will play for only so long before the rules are changed or the six shooter comes out.

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment Cicero50
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I have read on this thread and others at ZH about "confiscation of private retirement accounts".  Can someone explain to this dim reader just how the fuck the gubmint can confiscate our 401Ks and IRA's (other than by taxing them to oblivion)?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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when you take the benifit you take the poison.  When putting your dough into these accounts you are taking a benifit to defer the taxes on that income contributed and income derived within the account.   This keeps your money within the reach and grasp of the Federal Govt. and with certain controls placed upon it.  As long as you have not paid the taxes on the money, it is not really yours.  Nothing is given freely or for your well being if from our Govt. All benifits cost you some freedoms.  To sum it all up, the Govt. can take, change, steal, confiscate the money in IRAs and 401Ks because you have left it in their pockets. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 19:26 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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The short and simple answer is that they can define what is or is not a qualifying investment that can be held in your tax-qualified retirement account.  You wake up one day to find out you can only invest in US Treasuries.  If they are feeling really rambunctious, you wake up one day to find a button has been pressed and your funds are now on deposit in a LockBox somewhere and you now hold a virtual certificate that tells you you own an annuity that will be paid alongside your regular social security payment when you reach a qualifying retirement age.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment mjcOH1
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"...you now hold a virtual certificate that tells you you own an annuity that will be paid alongside your regular social security payment when you reach a qualifying retirement age."

I believe that will end up as "...in lieu of your regular social security payment...".

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:53 | Link to Comment william114085
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most overseas banks won't open bank accounts for Americans, due to the massive red tape rolled out by Washington last year (to catch al queda, of course)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Michelle
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Bought 2 very large popcorn buckets for the kiddies for Christmas, I think I'll fill them with steamy hot buttery popcorn and sit back and watch Obama Drama, Amerika's newest and most popular reality show.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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Europe, a caricature, its politicians like monocled cartoon villains,

 

Mr. Peanut?  The Penguin?  The Monopoly Banker?  Scrooge McDuck?  WHICH monocled cartoon villain, DAMMIT?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:30 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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All of them, DAMMIT, except Mr. Peanut.  He's no villain or everyone wouldn't invite him to their parties.  As well, even though Kolonel Klink is a caricature of a villain his name has the sound of real money and should not be included.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment joego1
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So when America is a dead beat nation what makes people so sure that  in these safe haven countries people won't be tempted to take your shit and poke you with sharp sticks?

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 00:35 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Have I posted anything today about the U.S.S.A. being a banana republic of rampant fascists?

No?  O.K. then, this is it.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 04:31 | Link to Comment xialala
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Trust and credibility have been the key problem. At a higher level, there is no trust among the core and peripherial countries. The decision made by Merkel might be the best solution to Germany, but takes all other EMU countires as the victims. The trick to be a pleasing politican in the crisis is moving debt from today to tomorrow and from their bedroom to bathroom, and declares there is a huge improvement. Nothing has resolved and nothing has changed indeed.

In the society, there is a lack of credibility as well. There is no trust betwee the employer and the employee; no trust between the seller and the buyer; no trust between the young couple. The employee takes advantage of the employer to get what he/she wants, and the employer is always seeking new chance for the career move rather than growing in a particular company. The seller adds water in beer and makes the inferior looking like the superior, and the buyer uses the devalued cash and the credit which can not be repaid. Among the young couples, there is a game called who-cheats-the-first-who-wins. What a world we are living in! Maybe it is the time to have a think if our model of the morden world is fundamentally right.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 07:24 | Link to Comment writingsonthewall
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Sometimes the writing on the wall seems painfully obvious.

 

Exactly - which is why I chose my name to reflect this. The writing has been there all along - it's just that some people CHOSE not to read it.

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