Guest Post: A Message To The 'Left' From A 'Right Wing Extremist'

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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,

A Message To The 'Left' From A 'Right Wing Extremist'

Some discoveries are exciting, joyful, and exhilarating, while others can be quite painful.  Stumbling upon the fact that you do not necessarily have a competent grasp of reality, that you have in fact been duped for most of your life, is not a pleasant experience.  While it may be a living nightmare to realize that part of one’s life was, perhaps, wasted on the false ideas of others, enlightenment often requires that the worldview that we were indoctrinated with be completely destroyed before we can finally resurrect a tangible identity and belief system.  To have rebirth, something must first die...

In 2004, I found myself at such a crossroads.  At that time I was a dedicated Democrat, and I thought I had it all figured out.  The Republican Party was to me a perfect sort of monster.  They had everything!  Corporate puppet masters.  Warmongering zealots.  Fake Christians.  Orwellian social policies.  The Bush years were a special kind of horror.  It was cinematic.  Shakespearean.  If I was to tell a story of absolute villainy, I would merely describe the mass insanity and bloodlust days of doom and dread wrought by the Neo-Con ilk in the early years of the new millennium.

But, of course, I was partly naïve...

The campaign rhetoric of John Kerry was eye opening.  I waited, day after day, month after month for my party’s candidate to take a hard stance on the illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  I waited for a battle cry against the Patriot Act and the unconstitutional intrusions of the Executive Branch into the lives of innocent citizens.  I waited for a clear vision, a spark of wisdom and common sense.  I waited for the whole of the election for that man to finally embrace the feelings of his supporters and say, with absolute resolve, that the broken nation we now lived in would be returned to its original foundations.  That civil liberty, freedom, and peace, would be our standard once again.  Unfortunately, the words never came, and I realized, he had no opposition to the Bush plan.  He was not going to fight against the wars, the revolving door, or the trampling of our freedoms.  Indeed, it seemed as though he had no intention of winning at all.

I came to see a dark side to the Democratic Party that had always been there but which I had refused to acknowledge.  Their leadership was no different than the Neo-Cons that I despised.  On top of this, many supporters of the Democratic establishment had no values, and no principles.  Their only desire was to “win” at any cost.  They would get their "perfect society" at any cost, even if they had to chain us all together to do it. 

There was no doubt in my mind that if the Democrats reoccupied the White House or any other political power structure one day, they would immediately adopt the same exact policies and attitudes of the Neo-Conservatives, and become just as power-mad if not more so.  In 2008 my theory was proven unequivocally correct.

It really is amazing.  I have seen the so-called “anti-war” party become the most accommodating cheerleader of laser guided death and domination in the Middle East, with predator drones operating in the sovereign skies of multiple countries raining missiles upon far more civilians than “enemy combatants”, all at the behest of Barack Obama.  I have seen the “party of civil liberties” expand on every Constitution crushing policy of the Bush Administration, while levying some of the most draconian legislation ever witnessed in the history of this country.  I have seen Obama endorse enemy combatant status for American citizens, and the end of due process under the law through the NDAA.  I have seen him endorse the end of trial by jury.  I have seen him endorse secret assassination lists, and the federally drafted murder of U.S. civilians.  I have seen him endorse executive orders which open the path to the declaration of a “national emergency” at any time for any reason allowing for the dissolution of most constitutional rights and the unleashing of martial law.

If I was still a Democrat today I would be sickly ashamed.  Yet, many average Democrats actually defend this behavior from their party.  The same behavior they once railed against under Bush.

However, I have not come here to admonish Democrats (at least not most of them).  I used to be just like them.  I used to believe in the game.  I believed that the rules mattered, and that it was possible to change things by those rules with patience and effort.  I believed in non-violent resistance, protest, civil dissent, educational activism, etc.  I thought that the courts were an avenue for political justice.  I believed that the only element required to end corruption would be a sound argument and solid logic backed by an emotional appeal to reason.  I believed in the power of elections, and had faith in the idea that all we needed was the “right candidate” to lead us to the promise land.  Again, I believed in the game. 

The problem is, the way the world works and the way we WISH the world worked are not always congruent.  Attempting to renovate a criminal system while acting within the rigged confines of that system is futile, not to mention delusional.  Corrupt oligarchies adhere to the standards of civility only as long as they feel the need to maintain the illusion of the moral high ground.  Once they have enough control, the mask always comes off, the rotten core is revealed, and immediate violence against dissent commences. 

Sometimes the only solutions left in the face of tyranny are not peaceful.  Logic, reason, and justice are not revered in a legal system which serves the will of the power elite instead of the common man.  The most beautiful of arguments are but meaningless flitters of hot air in the ears of sociopaths.  Sometimes, the bully just needs to be punched in the teeth.

This philosophy of independent action is consistently demonized, regardless of how practical it really is when faced with the facts.  The usual responses to the concept of full defiance are accusations of extremism and malicious intent.  Believe me, when I embarked on the path towards the truth in 2004, I never thought I would one day be called a potential “homegrown terrorist”, but that is essentially where we are in America in 2013.  To step outside the mainstream and question the validity of the game is akin to terrorism in the eyes of the state and the sad cowardly people who feed the machine. 

During the rise of any despotic governmental structure, there is always a section of the population that is given special treatment, and made to feel as though they are “on the winning team”.  For now, it would appear that the “Left” side of the political spectrum has been chosen by the establishment as the favored sons and daughters of the restructured centralized U.S.  However, before those of you on the Left get too comfortable in your new position as the hand of globalization, I would like to appeal to you for a moment of unbiased consideration.  I know from personal experience that there are Democrats out there who are actually far more like we constitutionalists and “right wing extremists” than they may realize.  I ask that you take the following points into account, regardless of what the system decides to label us...

We Are Being Divided By False Party Paradigms

Many Democrats and Republicans are not stupid, and want above all else to see the tenets of freedom respected and protected.  Unfortunately, they also tend to believe that only their particular political party is the true defender of liberty.  The bottom line is, at the top of each party there is very little if any discernible difference between the two.   If you ignore all the rhetoric and only look at action, the Republican and Democratic leadership are essentially the same animal working for the same special interests.  There is no left and right; only those who wish to be free, and those who wish to control.

Last year, the “Left and the “Right” experienced an incredible moment of unity after the introduction of the NDAA.  People on both sides were able to see the terrifying implications of a law that allows the government to treat any American civilian as an enemy of war without right to trial.  In 2013, the establishment is attempting to divide us once again with the issue of gun disarmament.  I have already presented my position on gun rights in numerous other articles and I believe my stance is unshakeable.  But, what I will ask anti-gun proponents and on-the-fence Democrats is this:  How do you think legislation like the NDAA will be enforced in the future?  Is it not far easier to threaten Americans with rendition, torture, and assassination when they are completely unarmed?  If you oppose the NDAA, you should also oppose any measure which gives teeth to the NDAA, including the debasement of the 2nd Amendment.

Democrats Are Looking For Help In The Wrong Place

Strangely, Democrats very often search for redress within the very system they know is criminal.  For some reason, they think that if they bash their heads into the wall long enough, a door will suddenly appear.  I’m here to tell you, there is no door. 

The biggest difference between progressives and conservatives is that progressives consistently look to government to solve all the troubles of the world, when government is usually the CAUSE of all the troubles in the world.  The most common Democratic argument is that in America the government “is what we make it”, and we can change it anytime we like through the election process.  Maybe this was true at one time, but not anymore.  Just look at Barack Obama!  I would ask all those on the Left to take an honest look at the policies of Obama compared to the policies of most Neo-Cons, especially when it comes to constitutional liberties.  Where is the end to Middle Eastern war?  Where is the end to domestic spy programs?  Where is the end to incessant and dictatorial executive orders?  Where is the conflict between the Neo-Cons and the Neo-Liberals?  And, before you point at the gun control debate, I suggest you look at Obama’s gun policies compared to Mitt Romney’s and John McCain’s – there is almost no difference whatsoever…

If the two party system becomes a one party system, then elections are meaningless, and electing a new set of corrupt politicians will not help us.

Democrats Value Social Units When They Should Value Individuals Instead

Democrats tend to see everything in terms of groups.  Victim status groups, religious groups, racial groups, special interest groups, etc.  They want to focus on the health of the whole world as if it is a single entity.  It is not.  Without individuals, there is no such thing as “groups”, and what we might categorize as groups change and disperse without notice.  Groups do not exist beyond shared values, and even then, the individual is still more important in the grand scheme of things. 

As a former Democrat, I know that the obsession with group status makes it easy to fall into the trap of collectivism.  It is easy to think that what is best for you must be best for everybody.  This Utopian idealism is incredibly fallible.  Wanting the best for everyone is a noble sentiment, but using government as a weapon to force your particular vision of the “greater good” on others leads to nothing but disaster.  The only safe and reasonable course is to allow individuals to choose for themselves how they will function in society IF they choose to participate at all.  Government must be left out of the equation as much as possible.  Its primary job should be to safeguard the individual’s right to choose how he will live.  You have to get over the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect social order, and even if there was, no government is capable of making it happen for you.   

Democrats Can Become As Power-Mad As Any Neo-Con

I think it is important to point out how quickly most Democratic values went out the door as soon as Barack Obama was placed in the White House.  Let’s be clear; you cannot claim to be anti-war, anti-torture, anti-assassination, anti-surveillance, anti-corporate, anti-bank, anti-rendition, etc. while defending the policies of Obama at the same time.  This is hypocrisy. 

I have heard some insane arguments from left leaning proponents lately.  Some admit that Obama does indeed murder and torture, but “at least he is pushing for universal health care…”.  Even if it did work (which it won’t), is Obamacare really worth having a president who is willing to murder children on the other side of the world and black-bag citizens here at home?  Do not forget your moral compass just because you think the system is now your personal playground.  If you do, you are no better than all the angry bloodcrazed Republicans that bumbled into the Iraq War while blindly following George W. Bush. 

There Is A Difference Between Traditional Conservatives And Neo-Cons

Neo-Cons are not conservative.  They are in fact socialist in their methods, and they always expand government spending and power while reducing constitutional protections.  The “Liberty Movement”, of which I am proudly a part, is traditional conservative.  We believe that government, especially as corrupt as it is today, cannot be trusted to administrate and nursemaid over every individual in our nation.  It has proven time after time that it caters only to criminally inclined circles of elites.  Therefore, we seek to reduce the size and influence of government so that we can minimize the damage that it is doing.  For this, we are called “extremists”. 

Governments are not omnipotent.  They are not above criticism, or even punishment.  They are merely a collection of individuals who act either with honor or dishonor.  In the Liberty Movement, we treat a corrupt government just as we would treat a corrupt individual.  We do not worship the image of the state, nor should any Democrat.

Liberty Minded Conservatives Are Not “Terrorists”

There will come a time, very soon I believe, when people like me are officially labeled “terrorists”.  Perhaps because we refuse gun registration or confiscation.  Perhaps because we develop alternative trade markets outside the system.  Maybe because some of us are targeted by federal raids, and we fight back instead of submitting.  Maybe because we speak out against the establishment during a time of “declared crisis”, and speech critical of the government is labeled “harmful to the public good”.  One way or another, whether you want to believe me now or not, the day is coming. 

Before this occurs, and the mainstream media attacks us viciously as “conspiracy theorists” and traitors, I want the Left to understand that no matter what you may hear about us, our only purpose is to ensure that our natural rights are not violated, our country is not decimated, and our republic is governed with full transparency.  We are not the dumb redneck racist hillbilly gun nuts you see in every primetime TV show, and anyone who acts out of personal bias and disdain for their fellow man is not someone we seek to associate with.  We fight because we have no other choice.  Our conscience demands that we oppose centralized tyranny.  We do what we do because the only other option is subservience and slavery.   

Many of the people I have dealt with in the Liberty Movement are the most intelligent, well-informed, principled and dedicated men and women I have ever met.  They want, basically, what most of us want:

  • to be free to determine their own destinies.
  • To be free to speak their minds without threat of state retribution.
  • To be free to defend themselves from any enemy that would seek to oppress them.
  • To live within an economic environment that is not rigged in favor of elitist minorities and on the verge of engineered collapse.
  • To live in a system that respects justice and legitimate law instead of using the law as a sword against the public.
  • To wake up each day with solace in the knowledge that while life in many regards will always be a difficult thing, we still have the means to make it better for ourselves and for the next generation.
  • To wake up knowing that those inner elements of the human heart which make us most unique and most endearing are no longer considered “aberrant”, and are no longer under threat.
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Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:29 | 3160420 The Alarmist
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Clearly a subversive. Off to Gitmo for re-education.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:30 | 3160423 Dr Benway
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But it's all in the interpretation, all in the implementation, and mottos matters not.

 

Let's be specific. Are all your freedom loving Liberty people 100% united in decriminalizing all drugs and ending the War on Drugs? This is half of all 'crime'.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:00 | 3160536 A Lunatic
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In my opinion all people should be able to do whatever they wish to do up to the point of infringing on the Liberty of another. I do not believe the State should be able to pose as the victim in a court of Law.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:49 | 3160701 TrustWho
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Fuck, look what happened to smokers.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:58 | 3160952 groundedkiwi
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Fast food eaters next. Tax and more tax.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 04:11 | 3161472 Freddie
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They will protect McDonalds and Pepsico because they are big O supporters as is Buffett's Coca Cola.  McD's food is absolute garbage with mystery ingredients.  Total trash.  Chick Filet's food quality is light years better.Chipolte is more McDonalds garbage and Taco Bell spin off of PepsiCo.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:02 | 3160541 nmewn
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Yes, lets do be specific.

Are all you lying "progressive" sycophantic Obamabots happy with ObamaCare now that its almost entirely implemented? Have your premiums gone down? Did it cut the deficit as promised, create 400,000 jobs? Did it insure those 30-40 million who didn't have it or want it...and if so, at what price? Fucking around with the NINETY PERCENT who have it and were only complaining about the mere 3-5% per annum rises NOT 30-40% rises in premium?

Should I bother to mention "shovel ready jobs" which was nothing but tenure insurance for "professors" who couldn't get a gig reading poetry in a coffee house, bloated local government and "greeeeen energy" give aways to Obama cronies.

What about Dodd-Frank?...two of the sleaziest SOB's to ever "grace" the halls of federal power...are the Wall Street banks now better constrained?

And lastly, what is this ghoulish thing of playing on the peoples emotions that "progressives" love to do? If we libertarians/conservatives all had our children write sad tales of impending economic doom for their futures, would the president use them as props to call for less spending to save them...or more?

Be specific.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:20 | 3160597 Dr Benway
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LOL wut? You think I'm for Obama? Hahaha if you only knew how much I hate him. Isn't this the false dichotomy that the article warned against? Both sides are FAKE.

For the record, I don't subscribe to ANY label, there is no -ism that can describe my politics and quite frankly I despise those that can be described by an -ism.

I do want a truly free society, where MERIT determines how well you do and not your birth, and I don't think the feudal society you envision realistically provides true freedom.

So let's be specific. Basic education and healthcare CAN be provided by society, and does lead to overall more freedom. It's just your crappy fucking implementation of it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:53 | 3160723 nmewn
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You started with...

"Let's be specific. Are all your freedom loving Liberty people 100% united in decriminalizing all drugs and ending the War on Drugs?"

If you do not understand the Liberty Movement (which is what he's talking about) maybe you should read up on it before (what I took as your derision of it) commenting on it.

I do subscribe to labels. And ism's.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:27 | 3160867 Dr Benway
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Maybe I should have articulated myself more clearly. My comment was to imply that everyone's definition of what freedom means differs, as well as how best to implement said vision of freedom. So saying "I am for freedom" carries little actual informational value.

As an example, I brought up the WOD issue, as I find it ludicrous that people ostensibly for freedom can support the WOD. I actually have discussed this quite a bit with people that self-identify as part of the Liberty movement and libertarian leaning conservatives. I generally find their responses on this issue disappointing (as in I would like a stronger stance against the mindless WOD).

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:09 | 3160988 nmewn
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You don't have the freedom to shoot up heroin in my hedges, puke all over my lawn, show your erection to my daughter and pass out on my front porch, if thats what you mean.

There are sinkholes around here, you could have an unfortunate accident in that state ;-)

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 01:37 | 3161317 Fedaykinx
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mm how visceral.  i'm starting to like you, pal.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 01:05 | 3161253 Teamtc321
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Well, liberty minded people usually find Obamarats responses on issues disappointing. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:01 | 3160764 Freddie
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I get what this liberal Brandon was saying BUT why does the left always attack The Constitution?  Why? 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:59 | 3160958 nmewn
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Therein lies the rub...why?

Its an answer to the question itself isn't it ;-)

Properly defined, a liberal is you and I.

It wasn't liberals who passd the largest tax increase in American history, are constantly on the gun-grab band wagon, are promoting crony capitalism (pseudo-fascism really) through green energy subsidation, the indoctrination of our children in government schools (Seig fucking Heil), endless entitlement printing for the "good of all society" even as it destroys society itself.

Its fucking leftists/socialists/communists...it is...what I have always called in quotation marks "progressives"...who are not very liberal at all when it comes right down to it.

They are very much government bureaucracy orientated...trusting that it knows better how to organize their lives...never too much regulation, never too many things to be banned, never enough laws to be passed, never enough trembling hands, quivering lips or twitching eyes to comfort.

At the end of it, they are sheep who will be slaughtered or sold by their masters while those lone silhouettes on the hill (us) looking down on them, will not lift a finger to stop it...at least I won't.

They asked for it, begged for it, deserve it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:24 | 3161032 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, and yes.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 01:10 | 3161267 Teamtc321
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+1000

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:32 | 3161052 ZeroAvatar
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Oh, the photo-ops are well-scripted:

 

Little blonde-haired, blue-eyed girls everywhere you look.  Little angels.  (When they want to pull at your emotions)

 

Otherwise, it's nothing but mullatos and mexicans in your face 24/7/365 (To program your 'worldview')

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:49 | 3161091 nmewn
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True.

In Chicago, the body count of Newtown pales in comparison. The MSM will not admit to this because Chicago has strict gun control.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:55 | 3160730 pods
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Yes.

But then the CIA would go broke.

pods 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:30 | 3160428 hooligan2009
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So, in a nutshell, politics sucks and all polticians lie, cheat and steal because they have no idea how to pay for the crap they come up with?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:53 | 3160942 BooMushroom
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Yes, and therefore as citizens and free men, we must [fill in this blank yourself]

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:39 | 3161070 ZeroAvatar
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[go home and cry to mommy?]

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:12 | 3160997 dizzyfingers
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Hooligan2009:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, because they are sociopaths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have no conscience. Can't you tell?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:31 | 3160433 BeagleOne
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Another BS article. Are you moving from MT to N. ID?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:32 | 3160438 Quinvarius
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The latest failed gun grab, on top of all the other bullshit of the decade, might be declaration of war that cannot be taken back.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:45 | 3160684 Bollixed
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Here's one way among several to make your voice heard over this gun grabbing nonsense...

http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/takeAction.html

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:05 | 3160776 Freddie
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The Gun Grab is a coverup for Benghzai Gate like Fast and Furious.   I think CT may have been a false flag to start the gun grba.

He could EASILY be impeached for Fast and Furious and Benghazi Gate if Congress and SCOTUS had some balls.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:33 | 3160439 Acet
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If you think that the Democratic Party is Left, you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you want to know what left-wing policies - the modern socialism - are, look at Scandinavia.

And please don't confuse Modern Socialism (which is mostly about equality of opportunities and a social safety-net) with what the likes of the Soviet Union called Communism. It's pretty obvious around here that lots of Americans have been brainwashed into going into irrational raving fits and start seing red all over at the mere mention of the word "socialism", but please try and keep your frontal cortex engaged.

In the eyes of almost anybody else in the World, the US is little more that a Corporatist Dictatorship with the fake trappings of Democracy, and neither the blue-team nor the red-team are left-wing in any way form or shape (neither are they right-wing, by the way).

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:13 | 3160566 CH1
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You evaded the point very well!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:39 | 3160655 secret_sam
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Can you summarize "the point" for the benefit of those of us who lack your laser-like focus?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:42 | 3160669 GetZeeGold
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Only if it's in his talking points.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:14 | 3160815 yakmerchant
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You can call it "modern" if you want it still is a road to disaster. When you punish hard work and disincentivize production it will end poorly regardless of how enlightened you think you are. And things aren't so damn rosy in parts of Scandinavia. Every d-bag professor in America told us how Sweden was the shining example of how well Socialism works. Well I have news for you it is going to hell in a hand basket. Sure the experiment will continue on and due to the ratio of natural resources to population and the fact they haven't been stupid enough to join the Euro currency as of yet, it might make it farther than most, but I promise you they will "run out of other people’s money" at some point. Now I might admit the fate of the Swedish people might be slightly different than the American's in the end but failure is failure and will not be enjoyable for anyone.

I'm an American, born and raised, but my mother was born in Sweden and moved back there about 10 years ago, While some of what I've seen and heard visiting her and relatives will be dismissed as anecdotal, but I've seen enough to know the magical utopia is going to turn into Sharia shithole soon enough. The older generation(s) is well educated, hard working, and what made Sweden become what it is from the 50's to the 70's. But the younger generation has the same brainwashing and entitlement issues as America. Throw in a easy to exploit welfare system, serious immigration issues due to the "asylum" laws, and some crazy gender nihilism and you are going to see Sweden start to have serious problems in the next ten years.

The criminal system isn't currently set up to deal with the violence being imported with the immigrants, and the politicians have turned "tolerance" into a screwed up set of laws that allow violence and  is increasing racism at an alarming rate. I've been subject to serious aggression from a group of immigrant thugs in a small town in Sweden just for walking down the street. Even though the immigrant population is only 5% they have no fear of the police or retribution for their actions. They openly threaten the Swedes and commit acts of violence. If you look into Sweden's rape rate you will see things are coming unglued. I wasn't anywhere near a big city and it was bad. Malmo is apparently a whole different ball of wax.  

And while I don't want to turn this into an essay on immigration laws, as that wasn't the topic. I can tell you that socialism "modern" or not, may be of a genuine desire to build a egalitarian society (i.e. Sweden) or just a front to get a dependent class of Sheeple to do the bidding of the elitists (America), in either case it will eventually fail. Once you reward people for complacency and incentivize actions that aren't financially sound (i.e. single mom baby factories in Sweden), and disincentize hard work and risk taking eventually the society will normalize that in the culture and from there the math just stops working. You can legislate and regulate your social utopia all you want, but human nature will eventually undermine and corrupt any attempts in the long run. The problem isn't that socialism "was/is being tried", it is the fact that once the math starts going bad the state starts to go through its death throes and squanders the resources of the people trying to stay alive.  From there history tells us things almost always devolve into tyranny.

 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:28 | 3161040 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Excellent reporting, I only knew a little of Sweden's problems.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:56 | 3161112 Proofreder
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IIRC, Sweden did not bail out the banksters 1n 2008 and are the better for it today.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 03:47 | 3161454 Acet
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You make a good point.

I've seen the same kind of clash between imigration from intolerant countries and a local tolerant society in Holland (not quite Scandinavia, but close) where I used to live.

The kind of open door immigration policies that cause those problems are not socialist, quite the contrary: allowing cheap immigramts in is a way to increase competition for jobs which lowers the average salaries and thus lowers manpower costs for companies. As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything positive for the majority of people in that society.

Don't remember ever hearing of "single mom baby factories" in Holland in the more than 8 years I lived there (and I do speak the language).

 

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 04:09 | 3161469 Ghordius
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"...the younger generation has the same brainwashing and entitlement issues as America. Throw in a easy to exploit welfare system, serious immigration issues due to the "asylum" laws, and some crazy gender nihilism"

+1 the "crazy gender nihilism" is very visible in this "third wave" feminism that is spreading all over Scandinavia, the UK and the US. Just note how divorce laws changed over time, and where

the immigration issues are very local, but yes, Malmö is going to be a very "interesting" place for a while. Nevertheless the Swedes still think they can integrate and point to Switzerland as an example

"they haven't been stupid enough to join the Euro currency as of yet" - well, they don't need to join the EUR because the EUR is there to anchor their currency, if necessary, in the same way as Denmark and Switzerland are already doing

what if the EUR would not be there? the next anchor would be... the USD

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:33 | 3160440 rlouis
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Some great dialog from the 2009 movie The International:

jr. DA:  "It's the truth Arnie!"

DA "The truth? Let me tell you, there's what people want to hear, then what they want to believe, then everything else and then there's the truth."

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:37 | 3160456 secret_sam
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The truth is what you KNOW.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:01 | 3160966 Acidtest Dummy
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Truth is what is left after all else has dropped away.

C'mon America, PROSECUTE THE WAR CRIMINALS!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:42 | 3160475 otto skorzeny
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great movie. Clive Owen plays a perfect world-weary Everyman in all of his films.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:48 | 3160502 Westcoastliberal
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If you like Clive as I do then be sure to see "I'll sleep when I'm dead" one of his early ones.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:59 | 3161119 Proofreder
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Waren Zevon said it best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUj1ricuFdY

rock 'n roll ...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:35 | 3160441 secret_sam
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    Governments are not omnipotent.

In fact, once you get your head 'round the idea, you see pretty quickly that the wealthier the populace is, the more IMPOTENT the government is.

I don't see much point in wasting all that air lambasting "the Democrats" and "the Left" and "the Progressives" if you're not really pretty dedicated to your system of labels.

Free yer mind, Brandon.  Far more of us are "on your side" than you may realize.  Embrace the common interests of your neighbors and turn off the teevee-- forget whatever it is those assholes are talking about.  If it was *important,* it wouldn't be broadcast in the first place.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:35 | 3160445 lolmao500
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Both sides are control freaks.

One wants to control your life for your own good while the other wants to control your life so it doesn't offend them.

Both sides need a bullet in the head.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:00 | 3160533 Beam Me Up Scotty
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So true LOLMAO, if these people would just butt the fuck out of other people's lives, we would all be better off. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:08 | 3160789 Freddie
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Why do leftist pols and leftist voters hate The Constitution?

The fake right politicians could care less. A few REepubs are pro Constiution and most conservative voters are pro Constitution

Also name the Dem Ron and Rand Paul and Jim DeMint. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:35 | 3161060 DoChenRollingBearing
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Ah, Freddie, so easy...  

 

Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Dick Durban, Joe Biden, Janet Napolitano, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Jerry Brown, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Bill Nelson (Fla), Carl Levin, etc.

Pauses for breath...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:35 | 3160447 samsara
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I print articles like these and leave them anonymously in Starbucks,  Restaurants, etc.  

While having lunch one day in a restuarant I frequent,  A girl that usually waits on me said "What you reading today???  Could you leave it?  You always have such interesting articles"

You never know who you may awaken.

Send this one to your people you know.  

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 22:40 | 3160903 groundedkiwi
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Samsara, do you print the comments as well?

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