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Obama's 23 Executive Gun Control Actions

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The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.


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Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:39 | 3159089 paterphysi
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This is the new Zero Hedge Flakmeister. You should just give in and blame the Jews and the blacks. And accuse a right wing president* of being a euro jew-loving commie.


*Obama is, as stated by Glen Ford in the Black Agenda Report "the more effective evil" because people believe him to be a left leaning progressive/etc, etc because of his race, when in reality he is nothing more than the same of a long line of "leaders" who support no one but TPTB.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:35 | 3159398 Flakmeister
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Well given that I am a member of the "old" Zerohedge, I'll stick to my guns....

And yes, Obama is a warmed over fascist, but at least he isn't Mitt... Oh, for the small triumphs that we can celebrate...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:37 | 3159689 sessinpo
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If the standards are so low, why are you here?

Have you considered the standards are low to allow YOU to post?

Quite, frankly, I wouldn't want you to leave and encourage you to post. You are an easy target again and again as I have shown.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:47 | 3162099 Flakmeister
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I would say that you have a greatly inflated opinion of yourself, not surprising given the tell-tale signs of D-K that you have exhibited....

And like a true chicken shit you only come out when it appears that I am outnumbered...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3158124 Stoploss
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That's a whole lot of NOTHINGS CHANGED.


Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:49 | 3158387 GCT
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All this hot air is at the cost of 500 million on the taxpayers.  I guess we can spend until we can't frigging idiots.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:44 | 3158346 Colonel Klink
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Flak off, Fuckmeister!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:18 | 3158600 Flakmeister
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Oh my, now that was clever...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:24 | 3158634 Colonel Klink
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OK, let me try again.  FUCK OFF, Flakmeister!  Better?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:25 | 3159035 Flakmeister
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I think I hear General Burkhalter calling...

Only a fucking moron would pick an avatar like yours.... it is fitting I suppose... 

I'll be back later to see how you made out,  you dumb fucking twat...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:43 | 3159730 Dave Thomas
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So Flak, I'm kinda curious, why pick the 10th SS Panzer division's insignia as your avatar?


Wed, 01/16/2013 - 21:41 | 3160666 Flakmeister
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My handle and avatar date from my old operational level warmgaming days...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:25 | 3160688 fuu
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<-- Dork

<-- Pass the cheetos and the ruler.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:50 | 3158799 Ness.
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Do you think there will be any fewer shootings/murders in the organizer's "community" of Shitcago because of these EO's?  Every month, year after year there a two 'Sandy Hooks' per month in the land of Obama.  These EO do nothing to stop or address the black on black violence just blocks from his compound in Kenwood.  He's a fucking worthless hypocrite.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:09 | 3157996 Say What Again
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Regarding item #4; "Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."

Does reading ZH place me into one of those categories?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:15 | 3158069 lolmao500
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Yes. Also owning gold/silver. Not taking the good vaccines from our friends at big pharma. Protesting the banksters. Homeschooling. Questionning the government on anything. Hating on Bernanke or Krugman, those geniuses! Asking questions about Fast And Furious and Benghazi! Protesting the Obama wars or abuse of power and secret assassinations. Etc...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:57 | 3158464 zapdude
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Yes, #4 was the one that looks most ominous by letting the gov't decide what 'health' parameters should be used to restrict gun ownership.  We should all be aware of the list of dangerous signs the DHS and other goons have published in recent years: Ron Paul supporters, people who keep a copy of the Constitution, people who have supplies of food stored in their homes, etc.

We homeschool our kids for a lot of good reasons, but not having to worry about mass murderers is definitely one of those reasons (in addition to no pedophile teachers/counselors, no drugs or sex culture, etc).

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:15 | 3158075 mr1963
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No, but posting does...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:20 | 3158148 Say What Again
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Right...  Like they don't have the IP address of everyone that ever visited this site.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:17 | 3158119 trav777
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might want to think about putting "Mexican drug cartels" on this list.

NOTHING this administration or DOJ does with respect to firearms can survive the laughter

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:20 | 3158150 youngman
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 "Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks. "

This is his angle....if he can expand the defination of mental health and dangerous people......he can get your guns.....remember he said Tea partiers were dangerous...DHS has said that probably if you own a are a mental health case...and can no longer own a gun....its that easy...

This is gun contral and confiscation from the back door mental health issue....

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:34 | 3158265 ElvisDog
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Gun control and gun confiscation are two entirely separate issues. Let's say that a gun-control law was passed banning the sale of 99% of all new guns. Well, guess what? There are over 300 million existing guns in this country. The re-sale of those 300 million guns would continue as before, except it would probably go to a cash or barter system. You really think the libs can successfully confiscate even a fraction of those 300 million?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:47 | 3158378 knightowl77
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Unless you have 450 million rounds of ammo sitting around, all they have to do is limit ammo sales and eventually your gun becomes useless

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:17 | 3158598 Husk-Erzulie
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I really was expecting the ammo attack, was surprised not to see it, which is what makes me come down on the "whole lotta nuthin" side.  With respect to those above however, #4 is the best candidate for stealth Orwellian tactic, but I don't really see it... Obamacare is too weak already, can't risk giving people a reason to really start seeking indy doctors (just like home schooling).  Pretty sure it's a big fat O-tool/Biden mega-fail.  Any body looked at HuffPo?  The tards must be shitting bright purple bricks...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:08 | 3158528 ChanceIs
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"dangerous people"......"dangerous people".......

That would be the same as suspected terrorists, yes?

In which case you have no Habeas Corpus rights under NDAA.

Yes, posting - much less reading - ZeroHedge puts you in every one of those categories.  Mark Zuckerberg knows your every keystroke.

I have met a lot of great people on the internet.  Some have led to face-to-face contact.  I used to post on Silicon Investor a lot.  I have friends there.  We used to joke about getting together so we can meet each other en masse.

I would like to meet everybody here.  I feel we have a lot in common and would be better investors for it.

So today is a joyful one for me.  I now feel confident that we will be having our first ZeroHedge confab at GITMO within a month.  Travel and expenses paid by Janet Napolitano - who will be hangoing around for Obama II.

Hey!!!!  Cuba is great in February.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:09 | 3157997 brewing
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Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:09 | 3157998 LawsofPhysics
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I wonder if 1) these political puppets will give up all of their armed security teams and 2) how long before everyone that isn't part of the fascist regime is declared "dangerous".

This is a very slippery slope folks.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:16 | 3158090 Bad Attitude
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You know damned well that the VIPs won't give up their armed security details.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 19:22 | 3160146 Aurora Ex Machina
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Companies such as Academi are licensed differently to proles. Google "guard card" - fingerprint recording is already mandatory for it.


Just a head's up.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:34 | 3158200 Rainman
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just for that, snarky, you're gettin a background check !

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:10 | 3158002 otto skorzeny
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high cap mags?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:14 | 3158063 css1971
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Containers kill.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:33 | 3158263 Overfed
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Like high-capacity Pepsi cups.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:37 | 3158708 DosZap
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high cap mags?

That is well covered by FRANKENSTEINS AWB Bill yet to be presented to Congress.

(And BTW) the proposed list of banned weapons, are Pump shotguns/semi automatic shotguns, any of them and all.

Her bill is basically a LINE by LINE laundry list of ANY wepaon that could possibly be used against THEM!.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:10 | 3158005 Racer
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And if all those had been in place would they have prevented that school shooting?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:21 | 3158158 Moe Howard
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Nope. Wouldn't change a thing.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:43 | 3158337 Dapper Dan
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Lanza changed magazines frequently as he fired his way through the first-grade classrooms of Lauren Rousseau and Victoria Soto, sometimes shooting as few as 15 shots from a 30-round magazine, sources said.

More than a week after the shooting, investigators were still finding bullets under doors and in carpets and walls in the school as they tried to match the casings to the magazines.

Investigators are aware that frequent reloading is common in violent video games because an experienced player knows never to enter a new building or room without a full magazine so as not to risk running out of bullets. This has led them to speculate privately that this might be a reason that he replaced magazines frequently.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 01:02 | 3161249 Matt
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Apparently, the people who write laws do not have access to Youtube. Reloading only takes a second, if you practise:

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:40 | 3158323 XenoFrog
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No but don't you feel better about the whole thing?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:42 | 3158330 tarsubil
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This will actually solve the budget crisis. Or not. Whatever. You weren't supposed to even read the list let alone think about it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:10 | 3158007 Ruger556
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Can I get my 2 minutes back..

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:10 | 3158009 jonan
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#16 - if you're sick and own a gun, too bad...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:14 | 3158070 Racer
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Is your gun sick and need medical attention? I can fix that too

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:17 | 3158098 Missiondweller
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They want your doctor to rat you out to the Feds that you own a gun. If so, better hope you're not on any anti-depressents. (Of course its the ones who don't take their meds that kill people)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:44 | 3158340 XenoFrog
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If my doctor asks me if I own a gun I'll say no then find a new doctor. Preferrably one who knows how to mind his own fucking business concerning what liberties I choose to excercise.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:49 | 3158396 jonan
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dear leader will have you punished for lying, comrade...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:53 | 3158432 Zer0head
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Good luck finding a new doc with 30m new customers bout to come on line, and just wait till your drivers license is modified to include gun ownership - now you're caught lieing to your doctor bout a federal matter - that means jail

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 17:42 | 3159727 mkhs
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I'm sorry, but I don't recall.  Worked for many infamous politicians.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:04 | 3158903 DosZap
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If my doctor asks me if I own a gun I'll say no then find a new doctor. Preferrably one who knows how to mind his own fucking business concerning what liberties I choose to excercise.

Just say it's none of you business.End of story.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:28 | 3159043 secret_sam
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Agree in principle, but I suggest a different turn of phrase:"That's not a medical question, I don't see any relevance."

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:49 | 3158395 seek
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Fortunately there are many pro-2nd doctors in my area. Permitting them to ask Qs and requiring them to ask Qs are two totally different options.

And seriously, the amount of networking gun owners do puts linkedin to shame, if you're in an area where there are anti docs and pro docs, the pro docs are going to have waiting lists for new patients.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:11 | 3158017 Frozen IcQb
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Can someone please explain #16 ???

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:13 | 3158050 glenlloyd
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There's a section in ACA that I believe Reid agreed to so the NRA wouldn't object to ACA that prohibits the collection of gun ownership information via the healthcare system.

I haven't read it but I've heard about it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:55 | 3158455 Zer0head
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exactly, and who enforces health care - 16,000 newly deputized federal agents

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:15 | 3158057 CommunityStandard
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Essentially, if a doctor is concerned about the mental health of a patient, they can try to find out if the patient is a current gun owner.  This info can then be reported to authorities to sieze the weapon, since you are not allowed to have a gun if you are diagnosed with mental health problems.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:17 | 3158110 mr1963
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Big brother is watching. Wonder what will happen if you say "No" and the real answer is "Yes?"

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:17 | 3158115 css1971
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Where Poor Mental Health = Not Doing What You're Told and conforming to the majority opinion.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:23 | 3158177 Moe Howard
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This is how they will disarm the new combat veterans. They will say they have PTSD or be diagnosed as having it, and therefore, no arms for the veteran. 


BIG Sis is worried about the discharged "War on Terror" soldiers, they are unAmerican I guess.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:25 | 3158193 MachoMan
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Nope...  the government will have to specifically articulate which mental illnesses are at risk for violent behavior...  and, even then, will need a court order (one practitioner's diagnosis doesn't mean shit...  it can be laughably off base).

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:01 | 3158486 Zer0head
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see #4 and #14


Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:47 | 3158373 live free
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The mental condition is the back door for all of us.  The newly release health definitions book has a definition for EVERYTHING including a disobediance type disorder.... and POOF... there it is. 

It's been planne from the get go on the healthcare bill.

I keep telling people that the only thing that makes sense why they are doing what they do is when you understand that the assumption being they want more power and control over the populace.  You think some group of people with power and money living in lala land under their own special laws (Washington DC) give two sh*ts about our safety and well being?



Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:24 | 3158180 MachoMan
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This is incorrect.  Mental health practitioners already have a legally imposed "duty to warn".  This duty arises when a client reveals certain information to the practitioner, e.g. mental state+motive+plan+means+an identifiable target.  This is simply the case of politicians proposing things that are already on the books or that the civil side has already taken care of (as well as ethical constraints and licensing boards).

There is NO duty to try and trick a client into divulging the client's plan to kill or harm someone...  and the only way it can be divulged without breaking confidentiality is through "informed consent"...  which, practically speaking, means telling the client that there are certain situations where what they tell you MUST be reported and getting them to sign a document stating they understand...

As a result?  Clients rarely screw up and spill the beans...  but, when they do, you bet your ass the practitioner is absolutely screaming from the mountain tops about it...  otherwise, a failure to warn means liability...  [whereas this responsibility is generally protected through the patient/client privilege].

Further, YOU MAY HAVE A GUN WHEN YOU HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS (how fucking vague is that?)...  you are not stripped of your gun rights until there has been an adjudication of your mental incompetence...  in other words, a trial on the merits.  Do you people understand what fundamental rights are and the protections that surround them? 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:24 | 3158186 Tango in the Blight
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As happened to that Doomsday Prepper guy who had all his guns seized.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 23:19 | 3161018 Fedaykinx
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he's had them back for quite a while now

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:11 | 3158019 dobermangang
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Short squeeze!,RGR

Their earnings will be stunning.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:12 | 3158566 ChanceIs
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Nah.  No short squeeze.

Just Jamie and Lloyd frontrunning with more of our QEIII dollars.

Hey!!!!  Sooner or later it all trickles down.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:12 | 3158021 Say What Again
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I found a typo

"11. Nominate an ATF director."

This shoud read as follows

"11. Nominate a WTF director."

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:12 | 3158047 otto skorzeny
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how bout an NWO director-oh wait-Hillary is already it

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:11 | 3158023 batz
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Sounds like Canada. Nobody will be happy with these, which suggests he's done the right thing. 


Who gets access to the centralized background check system and the sort of info it contains will be an interesting privacy problem.


Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:22 | 3158165 trav777
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there are manifold people inside the gov't who make information sharing impossible due to the fact that it's illegal and they aren't big enough fish to not go to jail over it.

the disco 3-letters do their own thing, often people look the other way because those fish ARE big enough.  But mundane little criminal stuff?  No way.  Not important enough.  If taspo wants to "collect" data that they have no ability to get via a legal sharing agreement to keep "nukes" from crossing the border, well, just don't get caught.  And when these avenues get found, they get closed off.

Nobody at a low level, aka the people actually DOING this stuff, wants to be in a position of lack of CYA.  So you have to run these things up email chains and there has to be formal records of managers signing off.  But no low-level program office manager is going to sign off on this stuff...has to go up to the director level.  And it makes a huge paper trail.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 01:09 | 3161265 Matt
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Hey, do you guys ever have problems with all your SSA records being left on a USB key chain at Starbucks, or do you ever have one of the Secretary's (Defense, State, etc) ever just leave a dossier at a girlfriend's house?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:12 | 3158029 TotalCarp
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Very interesting this is not about guns is it?? This is about info and patern analysis on population by govt agencies. This is a domestic spying bill! Wow i have to give it to this guy he is much more of a snake then most nra types assume he is!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3158126 NotApplicable
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How many times do I have to state that HE'S A PUPPET!

He is not a snake, but rather a snake-oil salesman.

Why oh why does ANYONE believe these are his ideas?

His one and only function is to pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple who believe in his magic power.

From your testimony, it appears he is wildly successful.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:22 | 3160398 Cathartes Aura
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peoples love to take sides, and vote (apparently) - so when the currently "voted in" figurehead isn't doing what they like/want/need, then it's important to hate on him, and eventually convince yourself that YOUR voted in figurehead would be doing a much better job supplying your wish list.

it's a voting thing, the need to take sides & hate on the other side. . . y'know, like sports teams. . .

gawd forbid folks realise the whole system sucketh - no moar sports???!!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3158134 Missiondweller
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And don't post your gun photo on FaceBook. They're the new Stassi.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:27 | 3158209 MachoMan
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Yes.  The goal is to create a universal medical database and give the government access to it for purposes of background checks for guns.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:38 | 3158294 Overfed
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He gave us all the ol' rope-a-dope and we all fell for it. Dammit.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:12 | 3158033 Martin Silenus
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Address, develop, review,, sounds like community improvement verbs.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:12 | 3158034 Uncle Zuzu
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23 because they don't want to piss off any law enforcement agencies by leaving them out.  Note how each one mentions a different agency.  "what about me, where is my funding?"

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:14 | 3158071 otto skorzeny
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got to keep the cops-aka praetorian guard aka speeding ticket writers happy. maybe an MRAP for every town in the US.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:12 | 3158037 lolmao500
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- Universal background checks for anyone trying to buy a gun.

- A national gun registry

- Assault Weapon Ban

- 10 round limit.

- Ban ``maximum damage bullets`` (whatever that means)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:51 | 3158824 DosZap
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- Ban ``maximum damage bullets`` (whatever that means)

Anything except BALL ammunition, NO expanding hollow points, IOW's, only allow Ball Ammo, the MOST lethal to as many bystanders as the PERPS.

Many LE/PD's USED to be required to use only Ball ammo.............they over penetrate and kill innocents.

This would protect the PERPS not the public.

Legislated because of STUPIDITY.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 15:26 | 3159039 Citxmech
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Does that mean I have to hunt with SMKs in my M14 now?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:12 | 3158041 Racer
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Regarding no 12, what they going to do? Throw the book at them?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:12 | 3158049 Missiondweller
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How would any of these have prevented any of the shootings?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:15 | 3158085 dobermangang
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They won't.  It's all a diversion so you forget about the Government borrowing $50,000 a second to pay it's bills due to it's insane, reckless spending.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:20 | 3158145 NotApplicable
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Well, it also reinforces the facade of government "action in service of the populace."

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:20 | 3158149 otto skorzeny
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I know what could have prevented it- keeping track of all Mossad sleeper agents in this country

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:32 | 3158253 MachoMan
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This is exactly the question everyone should be asking.  If you steal guns from a law abiding citizen, then what would a background check have helped?

The fact that no one articulates how the proposals are actually related to and remedy the most recently publicized shootings is very telling of motive...  instead, it's basically proposed as a "given" that "the majority of americans agree with" that background checks would allow folks to "have birthdays and anniversaries" if only there had been a background check and prohibition against p2p sales.  This is THE issue...

I believe that if the government is going to tinker with and limit a fundamental right, then it had best articulate an incredibly well reasoned and scientifically rooted position...  The persons in charge of proposing these measures have done nothing of the sort...  and, specifically, have never actually connected the dots as to how these proposals would actually help what they're purported to help.  Instead, the presentation is that their proposal is above scrutiny because "it's just common sense".  Actually, it's just paper thin and complete bullshit from a bullshit artist.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:05 | 3159253 laomei
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Mental health screenings primarily.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:13 | 3158053 Zer0head
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some fluff but a clear thread of isolate and control using Obamacare as an enabler, smart dude the Pres is, smart


Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:14 | 3158060 Oquities
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better use up your hollow points at the range

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:17 | 3158061 Cognitive Dissonance
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Didn't the Nazi regime use mental health 'professionals' to coral and punish dissidents?

<Aren't they positioning gun owners as dissidents?>

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3158114 lolmao500
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The soviets did too. Any dictatorship worth it's weight did so.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:14 | 3158062 Say What Again
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22. Commit to finalizing mental health party regulations. 

Its about time!!!!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3158073 Terrorist
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That war on drugs is sure working out. Let's do some more prohibition!

BTW did we learn anything from Alexander Solzhenitsyn, or Susan Lindauer?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:06 | 3158077 thedrickster
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So they are going the Soviet route, deploying the psychiatric/public health mafia to assualt unalienable rights via assertions of mental illness.

It will go something like this:

Hi Doc

Hello Bill, do you have a gun in your home?

Why yes Doc

Do you hunt?

No Doc, I keep a gun as the last line of defense against tyrrany

I'm sorry Bill, you are obviously insane. See it says so right here in the DSM-IV, "Oppositional Defiant Disorder". I am taking notes of our conversation and at somepoint some bureaucrat in HHS will enter you into NCIC as suspected mental illness, you will be denied further gun purchases. There is no due process, no appeal available, you need only convince public health officials that you aren't crazy. 

Stay safe Bill.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:58 | 3158878 gnomon
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It will be like the "no fly" list.  Once you are on the "no buy" list you will never be able to get off of it or know how you got on it.  And many people will be denied the right to buy a firearm simply because of a computer glitch.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:15 | 3158081 Quinvarius
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Porkfest.  How disappointing to the gungrabbers that Obama was forced to back down upon threat of armed insurrection.  50 Wacos averted this month.  At least no one else has to die for the gungrabbers.  Just kids in no gun zones remain targets.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:15 | 3158087 PLira
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cue solitary tear in  3. 2. 1.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:16 | 3158088 Oquities
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no requirement for private sales or gun shows in this list.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:29 | 3158232 Cognitive Dissonance
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Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:59 | 3158374 Ace Ventura
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6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

Cleverly worded, very casual in its nonchalant tyranny. Appears to make the assumption private sales WILL be recorded, without saying so directly. I'm with ZeroHead on this one. Artfully worded in a fashion that gets us to put our guard down because the words 'We're gonna take yer guns' aren't physically seen in this list. Yet, the groundwork is being laid to enable that exact ACTION in the future.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:16 | 3158089 ultraticum
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Release a letter . . . launch a national dialogue . . . issue a Presidential Memorandum . . . . publish a letter . . . . propose rule making.  I guess we can be thankful the flip side of the luciferian's megalomaniacal tendencies is his sheer incompetence.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:16 | 3158092 bob_stl
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The Executive Order would have been released already, buth they're having trouble coming up with a patriotic sounding acronym for it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:16 | 3158095 PGR88
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The Soviets developed the concept of "punitive psychiatry" - the Left has never fell out of love with the idea.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:05 | 3159252 jomama
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i guess the pundits were right, ZH has really crossed over into right-wing nutjob territory. 

at least the comments section has.

one of the greatest things about ZH is(was) the high percentage of readers that don't fall for the false left vs. right paradigm.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:30 | 3160425 Cathartes Aura
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there are still a few of us who don't subscribe to the shouty radio dudes, but they definitely have staked a claim here and are determined to MAKE THEMSELVES HEARD.



Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:17 | 3158103 Say What Again
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Here's one more to add to the list.

Amendment A1: Get rid of central bank manipulation. 

I can think of a number of people that will feel a bit less "crazy!"

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:16 | 3158106 Quinvarius
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I guess when he puts someone in charge of the ATF, Fast and Furious investigation of people who sold weapons to criminals can begin. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:17 | 3158113 linrom
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The list must have been made up by some Congressional Republican staffers(probably MBA interns, borrowed from NRA)

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3158122 Sandmann
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What about the Ban on ATF supplies of Weapons to Mexican Drug Cartels ?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:21 | 3158162 Missiondweller
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Shhhhhhhhh! This was meant to distract the sheeple from that along with the arms given to terrorist groups in Benghazi. Whhhheeeww! That sure blew up in our face. Luckily we have the media completely under our control!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3158127 Richard Head
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These 23 executive orders will apply to all 57 states.  Allah akbar!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:18 | 3158129 Blano
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Is anybody going to apply #9 to Fast & Furious? 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:19 | 3158136 Super Broccoli
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well so there is no ban ?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:20 | 3158153 lolmao500
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He'll try with bills and if he doesn't succeed, just you wait, more EOs are coming.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:25 | 3158194 Ghordius
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of course not. too big a biz for that. but it was fun and a lot of legal drugs had to be bought against all the blood pressure issues this debate caused. add up some additional money spent on campaigning and the additional expenses for all this "mitigating" stuff and you have...

a win-win-win-win-win-win-win solution

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:59 | 3158478 viahj
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tyranny never shrinks.  power is never relinquished.  be ever vigilant against both. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:19 | 3158137 kralizec
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Fuck him!

That's what everybody has to tell this wannabe dictator prick...FUCK YOU!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:19 | 3158138 IamtheREALmario
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It is very sad that Obama thinks access to health care should be contingent on giving up one's right to privacy. This is also a very slippery slope since government agencies and their industry tools are labeling virtually every human condition a mental health defect.

I COMPLETLEY disagree that one's second amendment rights should be contingent on a government assessment of mental health. It is clear that the government wants to equate gun ownership with a mental health defect, which would then automatically disallow gun owners to own guns.

It is also clear that the highest percentage of sociopaths and psychopaths are employed by the government (and no, I do not believe that the majority of government workers are sociopaths or psychopaths) and so if the government wants to disarm them as a sign of good faith, then I am all for it. I would consider a brainwashed individual to have a mental health defect, wouldn't you? Since the armed forces brain wash all of their participants are part of their basic training this should disqualify the armed forces from carrying arms.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:32 | 3158247 IamtheREALmario
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WINDBER, Pa. (AP) — A southwestern Pennsylvania hospital will stop delivering babies after March 31 because its obstetricians are either leaving or refocusing their practices, and because hospital officials believe they can't afford it based on projected reimbursements under looming federal health care reforms.

The Windber Medical Center, about 60 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, is losing two obstetricians and two others are shifting their focus more to gynecology.

Hospital officials say the population of women of child-bearing age is dropping and that the number of births the hospital would be called upon to perform isn't enough for it to provide the service in the face of lower reimbursements under the federal Affordable Care Act.

The hospital delivered about 200 babies each year since restarting its obstetrics program in 2005.

Officials aren't sure how many jobs will be lost.


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The good news is that this will decreas the amount of toxic vaccines that the hospitals are putting into helpless infants. If this turns into a trend then I envision an underground, cash based medical industry starting up and becoming very healthy. It will also increase the number of practicing midwives.


Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:36 | 3158289 MachoMan
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Yep.  Expect more of it.  The indebtedness of most institutions causes them to revamp to where uncle sugar's spigot lands.  There is no choice...  we gots bills to pays.

I know of a few surgeons (e.g. heart) who moved to general surgery and other matters because of cuts to pay...  it simply creates very perverse risk:reward incentives...  which leads to doing the much easier job for only slightly less money... 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 20:38 | 3160465 Cathartes Aura
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having a baby naturally, at home where possible, with minimal pharma intervention (if at all), might help reverse the creepy dependence on white coats that more than half the world does without, daily.

the high priests of medicine are pill pushers, test prescribers, and unnecessary surgery revenue hounds - f 'em.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:20 | 3158140 lolmao500
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"This is the land of the Free and it always will be." - Obama


Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:20 | 3158155 glenlloyd
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What's listed sounds basically toothless....but this is not probably the final wording of what he would like to do. Nor does it say how those 'empowered' will accomplish anything.

There's nothing here that would have prevented what happened at Sandy Hook. How would reduced capacity magazines have stopped any of the carnage? The evidence from the last high cap mag legislation suggested it made absolutely no difference.

All this seems basically non-threatening now, but I would guess that this is not the first time the govt needs to 'do something' because of this issue.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:21 | 3158156 Quinvarius
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And not a single one of these, except paying to put hired guns in schools, would have stopped the shooting. 

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:21 | 3158160 stant
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whew !!! no civil war 2. my mags dont ship until may. but i was good anyway

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:21 | 3158161 otto skorzeny
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we should have known it wouldn't be about jack shit when he put Biden in charge of it

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:22 | 3158172 Missiondweller
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So this isn't a "big fuckin deal"????

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:34 | 3158273 Moe Howard
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Isn't Biden considered mentally defective due to two brain aneurysms and surgeries? 


I hope they don't let him have a gun, after hearing how he shoots his mouth off.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:21 | 3158163 A Lunatic
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Strange........I don't see a moratorium on Eric Holder running guns along the Mexican border................

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:22 | 3158166 rlouis
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This is just the table of contents - the entire volume of regulations will cover 23,000 pages.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:30 | 3158222 HD
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Pelosi- GREAT! Lets pass it to see what in it!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:23 | 3158167 HD
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Patient: Doctor I'm here for my annual physical.

Doctor: Great. How many guns you have at home?

Patient: What? What does...

Doctor:  Open wide, say "Aahhh". So, you got a lot of hand guns? Thinking about shooting some cops huh?

Patient: No, of course not - what the hell are you...

Doctor: Bend over. (doctor digging around needlessly) So, all the illegal assault rifles you have stored away - those for an attempted takeover of the government? You know I'm REQUIRED to report all this...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:33 | 3158267 trav777
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why would they do this?  doctors have addresses and houses and they walk to and from their cars in the parking garage every day...this point won't be lost on them.  It's only lost on those who have swat teams guarding them.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:39 | 3158303 HD
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Doctors are afraid to tell fat people they are fat. I wish that was a joke but it isn't. Somehow I doubt they will be quizzing people about their guns...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:11 | 3158542 thedrickster
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The average GP, perhaps.

The public health commissars on the other hand, are some of the most vile collectivists in the world. Disarmament is part of the commissars' religion, they will be motivated and will act. Like with vaccines, the GPs will implement the will of the public health establishment, they will do what the AMA tells them to do as their malpractice insurance depends on it.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:23 | 3158174 Dr. Engali
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The only way they can track private sales is with a national registry, and that's really the ultimate goal for a leap in disarmament.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:23 | 3158178 news printer
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Workers storm Peugeot Citroen plant amid layoffs

A French trade union says Peugeot Citroen workers have shut down production and occupied a factory scheduled to be sold off to protest planned layoffs.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:10 | 3158546 agNau
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Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:25 | 3158192 lolmao500
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All you tards saying this is to stop a new Sandy Hook shooting GET REAL. It's about TAKING YOUR GUNS.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:25 | 3158195 SillySalesmanQu...
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# 16 Obamacare allowing doctors to ask patients about guns they have in there homes...???!!!

Why on earth would doctors need to know? So we can sue the doctor for failing to ask....? Can I have some of what they smoking and drinking...please!

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:30 | 3158237 youngman
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Because when Obamacare is in full force all the Doctors will be working for Obama..paid by you will get bonus points if you turn in mental illness reports on gun owners....see how easy that was......he has a gun...he is mentally ill....go get the guns now

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:39 | 3158309 Praetorian Guard
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Yes!!! Doctors are now required to ask certain questions and they are being forwarded to the National Health Care Database. A family member is a hospital admin and was telling me the other day that ALL records currently in systems and in paper files are being uploaded to this database, and it requires all practices to do it. If you don't the govt will not pay the practice for medicare, etc. Even health insurance companies are pushing practices to do this, or threatening NOT to pay. LIE your ass off when you go. Do you smoke, tell them no! Do you drink, tell them NO!!! Only go when absolutely required... its BS to the Nth degree...

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:36 | 3158704 Husk-Erzulie
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Doctors will be the first to go Galt.  This is a huge fail for Obongwater.  Even his most ardent supporters will now begin to suspect the truth... he really is a lazy feckless mouth breather.  Administration should never have touched this issue with a ten foot pole, but they did.  No good way out (again).

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 14:55 | 3158857 Falconsixone
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That's where #22 comes in....anyone who feels the need to own a gun is insane in the membrain.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:26 | 3158202 Pairadimes
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Or, if efficacy was the goal, he could have replaced this list of Bullshit Bingo words with a decision to make gun free zones illegal.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:27 | 3158206 youngman
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43 Americans are being held hostage in Algeria.....I hope they are defence...I can´t wait until Obama sends Club Pink in to save no no...Club Pink

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 13:27 | 3158211 americanspirit
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I'll be going onto the White House petition site shortly to initiate a petition asking the President to issue an executive order that every Federal and State employee who is authorized to carry a gun undergo an independent, non-governmental mental health screening annually. I've known a number of Feds who were clearly mentally ill - I'm thinking especially of an ATF agent who lived next door to me for a couple of years.

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