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Chart Of The Day: Housing Starts Adjusted vs Unadjusted

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No commentary necessary.

And focusing only on the November to December "comparable" Seasonal adjustments, here is the move from November to December in 2010, 2011 and 2012. Spot the outlier:

Source: Housing Starts NSA; Housing Starts SA, December New Residential Construction

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Thu, 01/17/2013 - 09:55 | 3161854 zilverreiger
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So is that good news or bad news? What is a housing start anyway

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:01 | 3161863 Cult_of_Reason
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What's up with the huge parabolic DAX spike (from negative to +0.8% within ~3 minutes) and EUR/USD drop?

Stop hunt? Anybody?

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:03 | 3161890 Racer
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Probably because of someone protection their position for witching tomorrow

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:11 | 3161930 Cult_of_Reason
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DAX and Copper went up vertical on no news ~3 minutes before official 8:30 am US data, EUR/USD went down at the same time.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 11:46 | 3162187 redpill
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Seasonally adjusted housing starts numbers don't mean much in the wintertime because volume is so low. But, the closing months of 2012 were certainly much better than the same months in 2011 an 2010, which can be corroborated from other sources not tainted by x-12 arima.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:06 | 3161915 Falconsixone
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That's just someone playing on their computer. Pay no attention.


or, it's time to crash the dollar (because it's worthless).

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:13 | 3161944 Cult_of_Reason
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"Someone" = Deutsche Bank

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:17 | 3161962 fonzannoon
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Bro....I'll buy you some champagne Bro...

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 09:59 | 3161871 French Frog
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This is just to say that the article at the top left of the main page does not load:


Anyone else having the same issue?

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:05 | 3161908 CPL
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No problems here.


Go to the page.

Hold down the shift key

and click on the reload button in your brower.


or Clear cache and clear cookies.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:08 | 3161925 Falconsixone
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I found the shift key but what's the reload botton on my brower?

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:18 | 3161965 qqqqtrader
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ctrl + F4?

that should do ya

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:24 | 3161994 CPL
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Thu, 01/17/2013 - 13:33 | 3162866 Raymond K Hessel
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Left Right Left Left Up Down Square Square Circle Triangle Down

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:19 | 3161974 JeffB
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<ctrl> + <R> on Firefox & IE(?)

or right click the tab & select "reload tab".

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:20 | 3161981 Cognitive Dissonance
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On Internet Explorer it is the round circle with the arrow embedded in it next to the "X" in the box where you type the web site address you wish to visit.

<Was that a test and did I pass? I'm over 50 so I get extra points if I did.>

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:04 | 3161898 CPL
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The weekly doesn't match with the reality.


Both lines should follow each other like a flock of birds.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:19 | 3161977 EscapeKey
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Well, if it's just a linear filter applied, then the only data fields which really matter is the entry which has now slipped off the filter (ie, 12 months ago), and the new entry (ie, this months entry). However, that would suggest truly atrocious data have recently been eliminated, but it would also suggest this recent development is about to come to a sudden end.

A 24-month (or longer, ideally) dataset would be quite interesting, as one should be able to deduce the weights used to calculate the adjusted.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:28 | 3162011 NoDebt
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I wish they would start those lines at the same point so I don't do what I just did.  Which was wonder for about a minute "so..... we were building more houses than the seasonally adjusted number in 2011 but we're building fewer houses than the seasonally adjusted number in 2012??"

No, dum-dum (me) that's NOT what the graph says.  It says the seasonally adjusted numbers have been showing a consistent and rising over-estimation of reality.  Oh, OK, that makes more sense, I says to myself.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:33 | 3162031 EscapeKey
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First off - I agree. It's complete bollocks.

But ATTEMPTING to justify this graph, imagine if the numbers from 12 months were truly awful. This would mean that if they were now replaced by better numbers, we'd see a strong growth in the adjusted number. Obviously, the weights can't be linear, or you'd just see the average of the unadjusted be the current adjusted, so there's some sort of magic in there. In fact, it's probably magic which is adjusted on a per-month basis (for some dubious reason cocksucking economics students wholeheartedly agree with), and for some even more dubious reason (OMG NATIONAL SECURITY!!eleventyone11) can't be released.

But given the unadjusted set of data, one MIGHT be able to at least come up with some sort of weight (and delta) estimate. Which no doubt would require intense doctoring and curve fitting.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:30 | 3162021 dow2000
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they must be getting desperate...

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 11:13 | 3162221 lincolnsteffens
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Don't get me started!

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 11:39 | 3162353 Snakeeyes
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It is really APARTMENT starts wagging this tail.


Thu, 01/17/2013 - 09:56 | 3161855 Yen Cross
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Renters A-Plenty

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:00 | 3161876 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, unfortunately, unemployed renters with no wages are a problem (unless they agree to ride a sationary bike and provide power for the rest of the building).

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:30 | 3162018 Squid Vicious
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In my neck of the woods they are building houses that go unsold for many months ... not sure what that's all about guess it's keeping people busy?

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 09:57 | 3161858 LongSoupLine
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I'll comment...

Fuck off NAR, you fucking data stuffing assholes.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 09:57 | 3161859 dow2000
Thu, 01/17/2013 - 09:58 | 3161868 Ruger556
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in this case, down means up

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:18 | 3161970 pods
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I think the official NAR term for this phenomenon is "Bi-winning."


Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:00 | 3161873 Dr. Engali
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My house wouldn't start this morning so I adjusted the thermostat.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:12 | 3161942 Yes_Questions
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That's fucking funny right there!


Thu, 01/17/2013 - 12:23 | 3162544 teolawki
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Hey! Hands off! That's Benny's job!

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:01 | 3161884 Headbanger
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It's bad news. 

Gold took a hit on it


Me thinks the good SA unemployment claims + housing starts

numbers are just the beginning of the excuses needed for the

Fed to start backing off on their balance sheet which means

margin rates start going up and there goes the punch bowl!

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:06 | 3161914 fonzannoon
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We are going to spend all year watching the market climb and gold drop on the speculation that QE is no longer needed. We will pay little attention to countries bringing home their gold. Shit they are only bringing it home to make it easier to sell in their "gold for cash" shops that have sprung up everywhere.

I wish we could fast forward to the month after they stop QE.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:13 | 3161947 DeadFred
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That way the Fed can buy enough gold to send to Germany.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:23 | 3161992 GetZeeGold
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Anytime you manufacture the numbers on jobs you have to take gold down.....it's all in the manual somewhere.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:16 | 3161959 Carl LaFong
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Seriously? The minute the FED backs off printing money and buying treasuries and interest rates start to rise, the economy and the stock market will crash. You clearly have no idea what's going on. Get a grip.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 11:07 | 3162196 Falconsixone
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Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:19 | 3161979 SheepDog-One
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There's got to be VERY little wiggle room for the FED criminals at this point.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:01 | 3161885 azzhatter
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Benny's favorite song- Blowing Bubbles

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:29 | 3162017 hooligan2009
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maybe he gets a "Thriller" nightmareliner dream every night from a monkey.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:03 | 3161889 andrewp111
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Notice that the 2 graphs are on diferent scales. The left hand Y scale (blue curve) has 5x the range than the right hand scale. So yes, the slope on teh red curve looks much larger, but it is not. The red curve has a rise of 80 over the whole x range, while the blue curve has a rise of 50.  Sort of what you would expect from seasonal adjustments - which by definition must cancel to zero over a 1 year cycle.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:08 | 3161923 cahadjis
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No, thats the percentage scale, look again?

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:48 | 3162103 rguptatx
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I agree - not sure why the RHS is even there. Both series of data relate to LHS only - hence are internally consistent. 

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:11 | 3161933 Tyler Durden
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So the same seasonal adjustment that saw the worst NSA number since March result in a SA surge by 100K, was applied in December 2011 when a comparable decline in NSA starts led to a 9k drop in SA numbers a year ago?

Maybe not.

In case there is confusion, here it is visually. Curious how percentages explain the amusing 2012 seasonally adjusted outlier.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:43 | 3162066 Yen Cross
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I'm pretty much flat Tyler. I smell a storm a brewing/

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 11:01 | 3162176 catacl1sm
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Please do not reply to trolls with facts, it makes their cock limp.

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:03 | 3161895 IamtheREALmario
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Does anyone else think that it is odd that the seasonal adjustments are very different year-to-year?

Thu, 01/17/2013 - 10:05 | 3161910 Racer
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Of course not, it is all smoke and mirrors so par for the CON

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