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US Flu Epidemic Update: All Red

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We are not epidemiology experts, but something tells us the US flu (or is that communist?) epidemic is getting worse, not better.

A week ago:


And today (from Google):

In other news, from USA Today:

Flu activity remained high in the United States through Jan. 13 but is decreasing in some areas, numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released Friday show. Twenty-nine children have died as a result of the flu since the season's start.


Although there's no national reporting system for adult flu-related deaths, the CDC said that 8.3% of deaths reported in its 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System were due to pneumonia and influenza. That's above the epidemic threshold of 7.2%. The rate of deaths linked to pneumonia and flu the week before was 7.3%.


Forty-eight states reported widespread geographic influenza activity, but the wave is beginning to wane in some areas, CDC said.


In other flu news, the company that makes Tamiflu, an antiviral drug used to lessen the severity of flu in those exposed to the virus, has released reserve stocks to lessen shortages in some parts of the country.


"With the addition of these reserve supplies, we anticipate having sufficient supply of Tamiflu capsules to meet demand for this flu season," spokeswoman Tara Iannuccillo said.


The liquid form of the drug, given to children because they can't easily swallow pills, has been difficult to find. Genentech, of South San Francisco, has worked with the Food and Drug Administration to get more 75-milligram capsules of the drug on the market in the United States, Iannuccillo said. Pharmacists can mix the contents of the capsules with a sweet liquid to make a drug that children can easily take.


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Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:15 | 3166795 francis_sawyer
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Be sure to only get 'Gates~Buffett Foundation' approved immunization...

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:24 | 3166840 Azannoth
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Bill Gates on population control through immunization [4:00 min] (!?)

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:30 | 3166877 MillionDollarBonus_
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This is a result of America's total ignorance of all the healthy products available out there. I'm now a full-time Herbalife distributor. If any of you want to see  the fantastic products that herbalife has to offer, please PM me. It's so cool to be able to spread these awsome products and spread the Michelle Obama health revolution!

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:32 | 3166888 camaro68ss
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o god, kill me now....

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:43 | 3166921 francis_sawyer
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No ~ MDB is right...


Chewbacca developed a fascinating new okra strand that 'grows itself' in the WH rose garden... It requires NO WATERING or CARE while you're on a trip to the Alhambra~Spain with 2 dozen of your BFF's during peak okra growing season... When you return, it harvests itself & magically jumps into & packages itself into cutsie little robin egg blueTiffany boxes [while you're in Martha's Vineyard]... So that when you return from your ever so tiring diplomacy world tour, you can present them to foreign dignitaries wives at a State dinner...

She deserves a Nobel Prize in horticulture...

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:43 | 3166946 TuesdayBen
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Ol' Tuesday Ben woke up at 3am this morn feeling *awful*... lots of projectile vomiting since, and fever... no way I'm getting out of the house today

Pretty sure I got this flu... Needless to say, burgers don't taste as good in reverse.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:00 | 3167388 quintago
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You think China is white because they don't report. But they're really fudging the flu numbers too!

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 18:02 | 3167621 knukles
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I gotta tel y'all, I'm not convinced there's any significant flu epidemic this year any more than the last several, for each and every time we gots a problem of communication:

Fucking Crying Wolf

Talk about a Credibility Trap

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 19:15 | 3167819 Umh
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I keep hearing about it, but everyone I know doesn't have the flu.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 20:23 | 3167962 Enslavethechild...
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I deal with tens of thousands of people. Not one of them has the flu. Google is main stream media and uses fear tactics relentlessly.

 Plus who know's what their motives are for wanting to inject objects into our bodies. When was the last time the government did something that was actually in your best interests?


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 21:08 | 3168067 Raymond K Hessel
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You'll have to hold me down before I'd take a flu shot.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 23:43 | 3168281 The Second Rule
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Lot of paranoia and disinformation coming at people from many different directions....Let's just look at the facts.

H5N1: This is the scary fucking badass. Highly pathogenic, highly mutagenic Arguably much worse than ebola. Ebola is too good at its job. It has a case fatality of up to 90% but kills its host too quickly so outbreaks are contained to small regions. H5N1 has a mortality rate of more than 50%, but, is able to infect many more people because it's an airborne virus whereas ebola is only transmitted through bodily fluids. OR so we thought. New evidence that just emerged in 2012 shows there is now an aairborne form of ebola. Anyway, the main takeaway is there is no H5N1 pandemic so there is no, I repeat NO, H5N1 vaccine. There are some experimental vaccines in progress but they are still undergoing trials.

H1N1, H1N2 and H3N2 comprise the human influenza virus. This is your basic seasonal flu. When you go to CVS or Wal*Mart this is the shot you get. The seasonal flu shot does not, repeat DOES NOT, protect you against H5N1 (source CDC). The Hong Kong Flu killed 4 million people worldwide (34,000 in the United States) in 1968. Currently, 36,000 people die every year in the US from seasonal flu. No picnic but a basket of fruit compared to a full blown H5N1 outbreak which would kill over half of all people infected. So if you want to play Flu-shot roulette the odds are in your favor. But that's your call. Now you know the odds.

Tamiflu: Again there is no vaccine for H5N1, but, there is some evidence that taking Tamiflu shortly after you become infected may inhibit the spread of the virus, but to be clear, it is no guarantee that you will not become infected. There is no reliable evidence that Tamiflu will prevent an outbreak. nevertheless,  the WHO has stockpiled about 3 million courses of Tamiflu to be used in the event of an H5N1 outbreak.

Postscript:  An H5N1 outbreak is inevitable. Maybe not this year, maybe not next year, but it will occur. Nature doesn't let you stay lucky forever. Ron Fouchier successfully created an airborne strain in the lab and then successfully repeated the test 10 times. He said it was probably one of the most dangerous viruses you can make. And that's saying something.

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 16:39 | 3169383 TheInformed
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Well this is just unacceptable.




29 children died senselessly because of our archaic and out-of-date laws.  


The Doctors will proctect us!

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 17:45 | 3169514 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Sounds like a good way for TPTB to reduce the future outyears cost of medicare. Knock off 50% of the population.

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 00:16 | 3168383 Anusocracy
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There is about a 5% chance of dying from the flu compared to the 1940s.


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:45 | 3166952 trav777
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so yer basically sayin TNB?

Who the hell has the flu; I've heard nothing about it.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 18:07 | 3167637 tekhneek
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Get the flu shot they said. Protect yourself from the flu they said.


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:50 | 3166961 BLOTTO
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My name is Robert Neville.  (Anagram: Let Evil Reborn)


I am a survivor living in New York City.


I am broadcasting on all AM frequencies. I will be at the South Street Seaport everyday at mid-day, when the sun is highest in the sky.


If you are out there...

if anyone is out there...

I can provide food, I can provide shelter, I can provide security.

If there's anybody out there... anybody... please.

You are not alone.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:48 | 3167214 Freddie
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Anagram for:

Molon Labe


Don't Try To Take My F***ng Gold

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 21:55 | 3168162 CPL
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Scopolamine is a hell of a drug.


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:58 | 3167598 DYS
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Doesn't boiled okra remind you of Jizz?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:59 | 3167608 knukles
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Could you expand upon that for us?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 22:56 | 3168269 akak
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Are you speaking of texture, or flavor?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:59 | 3167604 knukles
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francis, you are one seriously crazy up the creek without a paddle in trouble motherfucker...

(the Lizards are going to take exception that they still portrayed dwell hunched over tending gardens)

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 20:40 | 3168008 Dr. Sandi
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She deserves a Nobel Prize in horticulture...

I believe it was Dorothy Parker who commented on this situation, way ahead of her time.

"You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think."

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 22:50 | 3168254 Chuck Walla
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o god, kill me now....

Trust me, Obama and our betters have that in mind. The world is for those who deserve it... and their staff.


Sat, 01/19/2013 - 03:31 | 3168523 prains
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please god please

pull what's left of your foreskin over your head and suffocate yourself

oh the humanity

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:33 | 3166892 cifo
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You spread a lot.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:39 | 3166919 Dr. Engali
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My only regret is that I have but one arrow up (and one coffee sprayed computer screen ) to give you. Herbalife distributor...too fucking funny.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:43 | 3167547 Rogue Trooper
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The return of the MDB... A Jedi Master of Sarcasm is he.

Thanks for the time lost cleaning up the coffee from my keyboard :/

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:39 | 3166920 IridiumRebel
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You are a King amongst men, sir.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:43 | 3166945 BLOTTO
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Aldous Huxley, 1959.


“And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be within the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing … a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods.”

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:01 | 3167029 mt paul
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just raise the limits

on their credit cards ..

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 16:26 | 3167321 Drachma
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Within the next generation I believe that the world’s rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience."


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 18:10 | 3167650 knukles
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Mayhaps why so many with long periods in, hard worked, practiced 12 step programs are amongst those frightened the most by the future, having seen it clearly and even at times almost wish for recapturing of the blue pill continuum.
Once gone, never returned, no escape.  As deadly as addictions, distractions, mental and spiritual bankruptcies.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:03 | 3167038 Rockatanski
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how about just washing your frakkin hands and stop picking your nose? that might help, um'kay.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:35 | 3167177 formadesika3
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Nah, that won't help. I been steady tweakin ever since I heard about this flu threat.

{Just kidding, DEA.}

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:28 | 3167145 Taint Boil
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 I'm now a full-time Herbalife distributor.

Dude, I'm at work and I can't be laughing out loud ...... bad enough I'm on Zero Hedge when it isn't my normal scheduled break time. 

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:55 | 3167237 Bandit und Buster
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That's great but there's a much easier and LESS EXPENSIVE way to stay healthy... LYPO-SPHERIC VITAMIN C (nanotechnology)



Cured this New Zealand farmer of Swine flu, but the doctors & hospital HATED him for it!

Known to cure Dengue fever in 3 days, cost of treatment - $10.00 

Also can be made at home for pennies / dose  Who woulda thunk it?


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:36 | 3167521 gratefultraveller
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Elderberry preparations not only stimulate immune activity, but also directly inhibit the influenza virus by disarming the virus of its ability to invade healthy cells and multiply there.  This is especially noteworthy because although the influenza virus mutates every year, its means of penetrating cells (and using them to make copies of itself) remains largely the same.  So while flu shots need to be created each and every year, Elderberry will acts effectively throughout these mutations.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 19:49 | 3167886 Henry Hub
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Isn't an elderberry something like a dingleberry?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 21:09 | 3168068 Bohm Squad
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It's much, much worse.  But not as bad as kefir!  I know, I drink both each and every day.


...and still got the flu this year!

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 11:10 | 3168697 HedgeCock
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You mean dingleberries and kefir??  Boy, you are brave.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 21:12 | 3168075 Dr. Sandi
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Elderberry = vintage dingleberry.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 21:59 | 3168171 CPL
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pre masticated elderberry = dingleberry.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 22:38 | 3168235 BooMushroom
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Pretty sure that's POST-masticated...

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:59 | 3167605 geoffb
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Everything you do is art.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 21:37 | 3168128 Dr. Sandi
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That's why I do my 'art' in buckets now. Never know when I might be handed a government grant.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 18:34 | 3167733 SokPOTUS
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I'll trade ya a carton of Amway shit...

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 15:49 | 3169266 MeelionDollerBogus
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Dammit, the algo-socializing trick is working, the +green's are out-numbering the -red's for no good reason. Humour is NOT a good reason to +1 the MDB algo_beast.

Happy Hunger Games - May the odds be ever in your favor

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:36 | 3166911 Vagabond
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Peak flu

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:11 | 3167427 Sabibaby
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I think you mean Tamiflu.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:25 | 3167135 Taint Boil
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Looks like the great “culling of the herd” is up and running. Baby Boomer problem solved.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 21:27 | 3168100 Dr. Sandi
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This Boomer's taking 2000 Mg of Vitamin D every day.

EVERY day after dinner, not just every so often.

A whole lot less plague in my life these past several years. And when I get a dose of the current outbreak, I double the D, add more C and my immune system kicks the intruder's ass in a couple of days.

If you're not doing Vitamin D, get some. And if you're already sick, take C with D for extra energy in fighting the forces of evil that seek to control your meat.

And the one raggedy assed 'study' that showed it was possible to overdose on Vitamin D used a lab rat sized dose. And even that result is questionable.

This is only anecdotal, since I'm not funded by a major drug company. But it works for me and my adult family.

Go to the supermarket or drug store NOW and start swallowing something GOOD for a change.

Believe me and take your D. Or shit yourself silly in bed.

Most people smile at my vitamin babblings, being polite to the idiot's rantings. But this idiot doesn't fear the Plague of the Week anymore, thanks to Vitamin D supplements.

Lard probably works too, since it's rich in Vitamin D. But it's hell on your arteries.

Also, we avoid Flu shots and other government pricks as best we can here on the compound.


Sat, 01/19/2013 - 11:58 | 3168773 Royal Wulff
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You should up your Vitamin D dose. I take 10,000 per day in winter; 5,000 in summer. At that, I barely maintain 50 ng/dl.

You can get it tested for $60 at No doctor required.


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:23 | 3166844 El Oregonian
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Taking those Bozo's 'Killer-Cocktails' should have the headline: I for "ONE FLU OVER THE "CUCKOO'S NEST"...

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:29 | 3166874 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Just getting over it in my lair, was'nt too bad me & my three kids little fever and such. Wifes a nurse had the shot s no side affects if you don't count glowing in the dark. Tangy Tangarine I belive helped immensely.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:20 | 3167113 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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LOLOLOL @ Beyond Tangy Tangerine!! That's awesome.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:28 | 3166873 Slightly Insane
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I think that includes a complimentry sterilization ..... especially if you show your EBT card for discount.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:38 | 3166917 Buckaroo Banzai
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Ha! No way they sterilize EBT holders. You're killing off your own voting base

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 18:12 | 3167662 knukles
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But there are deadly pharmacological concoctions that can be aimed at various shall we say, genetic groups

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:41 | 3166930 williambanzai7
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Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:53 | 3166990 Slightly Insane
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Bonzai, that map was awesome, Komradski.  Vhat about zee deth rates Komradski?  Vehry manys peoples die in zee shity's?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:02 | 3167031 A Lunatic
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Put that on a T-shirt and I'm in.........

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:41 | 3166931 Cathartes Aura
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no worries,

Be sure to only get 'Gates~Buffett Foundation' approved immunization...

it's sweat activated, everyone active outdoors gets their fair share.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:36 | 3167178 Stoploss
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Straight out of Mexico.  So how are we liking the dispersal jet stream now???

Follow the jet stream and follow the path of infection.

Quite interesting indeed.

C'mon Fascist's, you can surely do better than this!!

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 16:30 | 3167330 xtop23
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Captain Trips ..... time to head to Boulder yet?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:38 | 3167522 learning2
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I didn't get a flu shot - EVER!

This December I did have the flu which had a great delivery route...

The Flu was passed from my girlfriend's son who is studying medicine in Chicago, who did get the flu shot. He got the flu from a kid he was visiting.

The son took a non-private plane to Florida. He then visited his sister who was visiting family in Florida. The sister also had gotten a flu shot.

The sister gave the flu to the mother, who also had gotten the flu shot.

The mother and daughter gave me the flu which I didn't know they had because they were taking meds; they didn't cough or have a runny nose.

It took me a few weeks to get over the flu - I slept a lot and drank a lot of tea steeped with grated, fresh ginger.

The family did return to their respective states taking public airplanes. I wonder how much that contributed to those Red States, eh?

How those flu shots working out for ya, eh? lol, lol. Funny, but very scary...


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 19:13 | 3167814 seek
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I'm pretty sure they've already said the reason this epidemic is spreading so fast is because the strain isn't one included in the shot, so yeah, it's more or less useless this year.


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 22:25 | 3168214 sullymandias
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I went to a talk, well about 12 years ago now, given by a guy who worked on making flu shots. The basic idea of the talk was about the informatics methods they were employing to increase the likelihood that they would choose the right strain - ie, that the vaccine they developed would actually target the flu virus that would be prevalent that coming year. What floored me was, at that time, they only picked the right strain about 20-25% of the time. Plenty of reasons to not get a vaccine, but absolutely no reason to get a vaccine that doesn't work. It seems to me more people that get the vaccine are getting sick.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 23:38 | 3168338 Buck Johnson
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Could this be a beta test for something later?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:17 | 3166796 Spastica Rex
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I think it's getting me this morning out here in Warshington State. (The "R" in Warshington is silent.)

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:20 | 3166826 Skateboarder
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No one I know in Califlunia has it yet.

What's after red... maroon?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:25 | 3166855 Dr. Richard Head
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I got the fucking beer flu today. Does that count? Thursday is Friday in my hood.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:42 | 3167199 Carl Spackler
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There is a remedy to that.

It's called..."the Hair of the Dog."

Stay drinking my friend.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:26 | 3166862 GolfHatesMe
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We go to plaid

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 22:07 | 3168187 CPL
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Hanna Banana I believe is next after plaid

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:37 | 3166913 Miffed Microbio...
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Going exponential in San Diego. We had an average of 1 case a week in December. Yesterday we had 10 positive flu A and 4 flu B at our hospital. Consider those people's contacts and youve got a potential for an epidemic. Funny thing is many have had the flu shot. Tamiflu is no panacea, lots of resistance seen due to overuse. Viruses can mutate very quickly.


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:40 | 3166927 Buckaroo Banzai
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Flu vaccines are just about the most worthless vaccine there is. By the time the vaccine is manufactured, the bug has already mutated a dozen times already.

Makes big pharma rich, though, so nobody who matters cares one way or the other.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:45 | 3166951 Cathartes Aura
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flu vaccines serve their purpose.

the elderly get a free double dose I hear.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:08 | 3167070 Freddie
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Go to Lame Cherry's web site and read through the posts.

This is a practice run by you know who.  WHO could be spelled NWO if it had an N.  

A little warning sign for the TV & Hollywood watching sheep.  Justlike pulling the chain on the dog's leash and we are the dog.  They are letting you know that they are in charge. 

The flu epidemic is another smoke screen like the gun ban and amnesty to coverup Benghazi Gate.

Yeah you got guns and gold but they got biologicals.   Do not take the flu vaccine either.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:23 | 3167083 lincolnsteffens
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b b buh buh buh but I just heard on NPR that people are so dumb they have to be reminded each year to

get their flu shot. Everyone should have one. How can anyone not get a flue shot?????? Hmmmmm, must be working

real good 'cause people 'r gettin' dumb and dumber.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:59 | 3167251 Bandit und Buster
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"Flu vaccines are just about the most worthless "

Not WORTHLESS if your aim is to kill the worthless eaters!  Works pretty good for that

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:04 | 3167050 A Lunatic
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My wife just spent nine hours in the viral cesspool of the Panama City airport, looks like she's going to have to spend a few days quarantined in the woodshed when she gets home.........

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:11 | 3167080 Freddie
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Panama City Florida or Panama the country.   Please be specific.  Very annoying.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:15 | 3167092 A Lunatic
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Country. Everyone already knows Panama City Florida is a cesspool,

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 04:13 | 3168534 Parrotile
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From what I gather this is still just antigenic drift, maybe with a little recombination along the way. In Australia the fear is that any major caseload in the Asian countries (Japan, China) may result in antigenic shift, and we all remember what happens then (1918, Hong Kong, etc.).

Here there are a lot of emerging cases of partial, or complete Oseltamivir / Zanamivir resistance,within the usual non-seasonal sporadic influenza A cases, with most reporting from major population centres (Sydney, Melbourne, not so much Perth / Darwin).

Fortunately the situation in China right now is definitely nothing to get worried about, although this may change in view of USA - China Internation Passenger numbers.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:38 | 3166916 AgAu_man
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After 'red' is 'dead'.  Better 'red' than 'dead'.  Live to fight another day.  ;-)

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:16 | 3167098 Spastica Rex
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Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:24 | 3166848 Lohn Jocke
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-1 just for adding the R.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:35 | 3166903 Slightly Insane
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I'm still getting over it in the communista state of Illinsania.   Over here, they're checking for the H1N1 in the emergencies.  If there's one thing I would love to share with my Communist and 2nd amm'dt restricting brethren, it would be this particular case of the flu, along with a full blown case of the explosive shits.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:15 | 3166798 kralizec
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Zombie strain?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:22 | 3166836 ParkAveFlasher
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm hitting the subway in a full body condom.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:32 | 3166890 TruthInSunshine
Fri, 01/18/2013 - 16:14 | 3167292 secret_sam
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That's silly.  Just lick a subway railing every few months and you'll be inoculated against just about everything there is.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:37 | 3166914 Slightly Insane
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Hey pussy, what's that ... a fuckin diaper over you're pie hole? Why not just tie a plastic bag over you're mellon, and fasten it with a belt across you're gullet?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:40 | 3166924 AgAu_man
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Spell much?  Got a Dictionary or a Pictionary?

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 16:11 | 3167283 Bandit und Buster
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 Keep the mask! and the full body condom LOL,  Vitamin C IS it's own mask but most people would rather believe in sickness and get a toxic vaccine than think about natural solutions. 

The gubmint will take care of you, I mean wasnt' SANDY a good example...oh wait!  duh!

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:19 | 3166821 francis_sawyer
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It's called the 'Q113' strain... [named for what the '1st Quarter' earnings 'misses' are going to be blamed on]...

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:17 | 3166799 Dr. Engali
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Lets see we have wars, famines, and now plagues. What's that last rider again? Oh yeah and Obama in the office with Ben on the printing press.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:23 | 3166843 blu
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"What's that last rider again?"

A banker.

Go ahead and look it up. I'll wait --

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:33 | 3166893 Orly
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I did.  Says nothing about bankers.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:58 | 3167002 blu
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They didn't have the word "banker" at the time:

"I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"

Banker. I'm say'n. Specifically Jamie Dimon, I'm almost sure of it. I saw a Medieval drawing of the black horseman once and I swear he was wearing pinstripes and presidential cuff links.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:05 | 3167051 Orly
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The fourth rider was on the "pallor" (or green...) horse and was the only one named.  He was called Death, not Dimon.

Mon, 01/21/2013 - 08:56 | 3172362 swiss chick
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Close enough!

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 22:58 | 3168276 BooMushroom
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From wiki (KJV for those who care):
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Yeah, I could see verse 7 describing a loan-sharking banker.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:16 | 3166800 Squid Vicious
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bullish!! (sneeze)

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:25 | 3166859 Lohn Jocke
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Long Kleenex.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 22:10 | 3168191 CPL
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That's bullish too.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:17 | 3166804 surf0766
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This is a seasonally adjusted graph to get the sheep inline for a "flu shot"


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:24 | 3166852 BeaverFever
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This graph is nothing to sneeze at. Even my nuts are sore.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 20:26 | 3167985 Umh
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If you're that bored then go to sleep.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:25 | 3166860 CunnyFunt
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Was at the dermatologist last month, who asked, "Did you get your flu shot yet?"

Ffs, were at the point where dermatologists are pushing flu shots.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:35 | 3166905 Orly
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Since they graduated Med school.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:36 | 3166906 Buckaroo Banzai
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They're all pimps for big pharma. 8 years of schooling to write scrips and push vaccinations.

Went to the doctor recently to get my tetanus booster. Nurse comes in with a combined tentanus-diptheria shot. Um, yeah, doc, please take that away and get me the tetanus-only shot, thank you very much. Got a 20-second lecture on how diptheria is the disease-of-the-week and that I really need to get that shot.

To the doc's credit, he backed down immediately when he saw that I wasn't kidding around.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:49 | 3166972 Cathartes Aura
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he was pondering how to word your resistence to vaccinations in his updating files. . .

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:56 | 3166997 CunnyFunt
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It's obviously a terr'ist act to refuse vaccinations.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:00 | 3167015 Cathartes Aura
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indeed, endangering your fellow citizens, for shame!

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:32 | 3167159 Miffed Microbio...
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Every year I opt out of the flu vaccine and every year I get more pressure to take it. Some hospitals in USSA have fired their employees for refusing. After this bad flu year I'm sure it's going to be hard to get out next year but I'd rather be unemployed than be injected with that shit. I've had 2 horrible reactions to the vaccine when I was a good sheep and took it when they told me to. Fool me twice shame on me, never again.


Sat, 01/19/2013 - 04:36 | 3168538 Parrotile
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Your lucky you don't work "Down Under". I HAVE to be vaccinated EVERY year to comply with State Workplace Safety / OHS / Infection Control mandates.

No record of current vaccination - no employment. Simple as that.

Any transmissible disease that there is an effective, commercially available vaccine for - if you're in direct Patient contact, you MUST be "up to date". NO exceptions.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:34 | 3167167 akak
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I'd be willing to bet that the docter scribbled "potential gun owner" in his file as well.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:02 | 3167394 WillyGroper
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You wouldn't believe what that TDAP did to me. Gave me tetanus/flu like symptoms for 2 days & 104 fever. Never had any trouble with plain ole tetanus. Wished I'd have known. That's the last time I've been to the Dr. and won't be taking any more.

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 04:43 | 3168541 Parrotile
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Well, BB - you better hope you don't get a visit from THIS particular variant of Diphtheria - 'cause it's not going to be at all fun for you or for your health insurers

Unlike seasonal influenza, Diphtheria can, and does regularly kill - especially in the un-vaccinated


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:14 | 3167089 Freddie
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He wants his ObamaCare money.   Avoid the flu vaccine.  This flu epidemic looks like a test run to see if they can take out certain trouble spots like red states or people with guns.   We got guns and some gold.  They have biologicals. 

This is not tin foil hat stuff either.  Just ask Aaron Swartz.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:16 | 3166806 Frank N. Beans
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*cough cough* 



ohhhhhh, sorry man

Sat, 01/19/2013 - 02:09 | 3168471 MsCreant
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Frank, ya got it all in your hair.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:16 | 3166808 Cognitive Dissonance
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Better red than dead?

<Wait, wrong decade century.>

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:19 | 3166810 ParkAveFlasher
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If this gets any worse, it might cause a recession!








Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:17 | 3166812 TalkToLind
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Vuck the faccination.  Keep your Vitamin D levels up, keep the humidity levels inside your house up.  And buy some silver, bitchez

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:23 | 3166838 CheapBastard
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TTL, no need for you to get the shot., sound pretty autistic already.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:30 | 3166878 TalkToLind
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...and dyslexic.  Now repeat after me:  "There IS a flu epidemic."  "There IS NO inflation."

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:36 | 3166910 Orly
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Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:07 | 3166974 Orly
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Hey, bite my ass.  You got something to say, say it to my face.


Or better yet, put down the porn and watch this for a bit:

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:50 | 3167219 SubjectivObject
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Fri, 01/18/2013 - 16:02 | 3167257 Orly
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I said if you have something to say, say it.

Or sit there and make noises like a scared little kid.

Your choice.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:54 | 3167231 Carl Spackler
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That's right.'s healthier than gold.

Recently, I was riding in a cab from downtown Cleveland to the airport, and the Romanian cab driver told me he never got the flu or a common cold, ever since he started drinking homemade colloidal silver.  (Also raved about how that Hapsburgs did the same to avoid contraction of the plague.)

All you do is grab a few of your ingots from the vault, drop 'em in a large jar of tap water, put the electrodes in, give it a little "juice," and then -oila- drink up. 

Blows Herbalife out of the water !

Warning:  If your skin turns blue or gray, stop drinking.




Fri, 01/18/2013 - 16:43 | 3167345 The Second Rule
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To really boost your immune system you need a cocktail of vitamins and herbs. Vit A,B,C,D,E at a minimum, plus mineral supplement, and a pharmaceutical grade herbal supplment. It aint cheap. Even you buy everything at CVS.

Now for a little Virology 101. You apparently don't understand how H5N1 works. In a nutshell it turns your immune system against you. Aren't you at least curious why it seems to target children and young people, and not older people past the age of say 50--seems a little counterintuitive right? Connect the dots. The stronger your immune system the more vulnerable you are to what's called a Cytokine Storm. A CS basically turns the inside of your lungs to goo. The oxygen/blood barrier no longer works and you end up asphixiating on your own bodily fluids. Death is certain, regardless of whether you are on a ventilator pumpin pure O2. Your flatline in the ICU is a rather ignominious end. Typically, it's accompanied by sloughing what's left of your your lungs onto the ICU floor. Nice huh?


Sat, 01/19/2013 - 04:32 | 3168537 Parrotile
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It's not just your lungs buddy - the cytokines (TNF, Interleukins, etc.) damage ALL your tissues, so whilst your lungs are on the way out, so are your other major organs - liver, kidneys, heart, etc. The brain has some degree of protection courtesy of the blood-brain barrier but without all the other infrastructure, it's a foregone conclusion . . . . .

Mon, 01/21/2013 - 16:35 | 3173658 The Second Rule
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Exactly. Once the lungs start filling with fluid, it doesn't matter whether you are on a ventilator or not. Or whether said venitlator is pumping pure O2...death is certain.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:18 | 3166816 Sandy15
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What makes this flu season so bad, is the combo problems that come with it.  i.e. bronchitis etc......  I had the flu, tamiflu knocked it out quickly but two days after I got bronchitis with it.  So did my daughter.  Eitherway, would rather take my chances with tamiflu etc verses the government poison aka 'flu shot'.

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:24 | 3166850 jughead
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screw tamiflu, elderberry extract (sambucol), plenty of outdoor activity and sunlight and some good ole chicken soup...with plenty of garlic and cayenne...keeps the flu away or minimizes its effects just fine. 

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:49 | 3166973 pods
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Green tea is a potent anti-viral.


(I have the study data)


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 14:57 | 3167006 Cathartes Aura
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good list, those are my prescriptives too, elderberry tincture from last season's harvest steeped in vodka, powerful stuff!

I'd only add, H202 inhaled, which gets to the lung issues, and that's what is killing folks. . .

(pennies a day, self-administered, highly recommended)

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:02 | 3167032 pods
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Just be careful about the peroxide, it does not mind whether it is oxidizing lung tissue or pathogens.

(You probably are well aware)


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 15:57 | 3167244 Cathartes Aura
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I did a lot of research (my "weakness" heh), bought the food grade stuff, and it just sat for a while because I was still leery - then the gasping for breath episode (described in a post below) happened, and I was desperate to breathe without "medical" intervention - so I got the spray bottle out, and voila!

a convert!

funny how sometimes we need our backs against the wall before we can overcome our fear/conditioning. . .


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 16:32 | 3167335 pods
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Well, I had my first dabbling in colloidal silver that way.  My young son kicked me in a sensitive area when I layed him down to change him.  

I contracted a staff infection that was pretty scary (undiagnosed as doctors aren't my favorite, much like you).  My wife freaked.

Two days after topically applying (and injesting) CS it was licked.  

I typically use CS every now and again.  Used to daily but in reality I forget.  Always have it on hand.

Peroxide is about the perfect oxidizer.  No residue and cheap.

I would say for an acute episode it would be fine, and I will keep it in mind.  I have tried nebulized CS and I think due to it being hypotonic it was irritating.  Will have to try nebulized H2O2.

You could probably find a cheap nebulizer and pump combo online.  (I have access to them from work, so I have one.)

Better delivery of a pulmonary dose.


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:39 | 3167527 Cathartes Aura
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I was actually using the colloidal silver around the time of getting the "non breathing episode" - like you though, sporadically, heh. 

because I had the H202 on hand, it got the trial use, and I'm now convinced - but I think everyone should find their own "remedy" as a lot of the healing takes place in the belief-systems, IMHO.  (that should get some downvotes, lol)

others on the site I linked talk of using nebulizers, and I've considered checking into getting one - procrastination tsk!  I still use the spray bottle method Bill Munro recommended, though I'll most likely "upgrade" at some point.

oh, and the CS - my cat had an injury on his tail, got infected, nasty - impossible to "bandage" and he licked it diligently, as cats will do - I put CS in his drinking water, cleared up over time (I don't do vets either, quelle surprise) - they now have a CS gel that I'll be adding to the "cure kit" for future use.

best to you!


Fri, 01/18/2013 - 16:13 | 3167290 Intoxicologist
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I only heard about the elderberry remedy lately.  I have those growing somewhere on my property. I'll have to get to them before the bears do next summer!

I got hit hard, and sudden, last week with the flu.  Flushed my ears with H202, ate an entire jar (small) of raw honey, and stirred up as many glasses of ascorbic acid crystals as I could stand.  In two days I was better.  In three days, the coughing was gone entirely.  Everyone else in the area has had this flu linger for weeks. 

I don't get sick pay where I work.  I can't afford to stay home. 

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 17:50 | 3167577 Cathartes Aura
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I like your choices!

re: the elderberries - sooo easy, pull them off the stem bunch, put in jars, cover with vodka, let 'em steep for 6-8 weeks, then crush them (I use a conical sieve/wooden spoon, over a large bowl), the extract gets bottled & stored in a cool, dark space.

i use it all winter, specifically when feeling like something is working its way into my system, a large "tablespoon" held under the tongue for a minute or two, then swallowed, prior to sleep.  always feel "clear" in the morning if I catch it early, if not, add a few other faves to the mix.

also use garlic, specifically "medicinal" - crush, leave for 10-15 min to bring up the allicin, swallow.  it's rough on some people's stomachs, so a quarter apple might help with the re-action - but that kills pretty much anything going down, heh.

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