Boehner 'Back-Down' Or 'Battle-On' - Live Webcast

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UPDATE: He's now over an hour late.

Will the Speaker offer up a watered-down debt-ceiling can-kick extension breaking the spending-ceiling link or will he surprise investors and show some back-bone with a budget-contingent salary-withholding plan? Back-down or battle-on - that is the question. Due to speak at 5ET, let's get ready to grumble...


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Tue, 01/22/2013 - 17:49 | 3176959 FoeHammer
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Under/over on tears?

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 17:51 | 3176968 Pure Evil
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Why anyone is still betting that the Repulicans will hold the line must be taking some powerful hallucinogenic drugs.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 17:51 | 3176970 Colonel Klink
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Known as hopium!

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 17:52 | 3176974 Stackers
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Think he's aware of the trannies sucking everything today ?

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:06 | 3177013 Say What Again
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Does anyone have any "Drinking Bingo" cards ready that we can share prior to the epic "speech?"

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:51 | 3177141 NotApplicable
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Warning! Thread filled with hopium-addicted statist-junkies who do not recognize they're watching a circus, but rather, expect the clowns to lead them to salvation.

Proceed at your own risk.

Don't say I didn't warn you!

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:36 | 3177259 flacon
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One of these days my SPY and IWM puts will but up over 100,000,000% in one day.... The good thing with options is that the most one loses is only 100% but the gains are infinite. 


Come-on Boehner.... you can flash crash this market tomorrow morning if you want to..... FLASH! CRASH! FLASH! CRASH! FLASH! CRASH! 

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:23 | 3177217 max2205
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Will somebody please check the hot tub for

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 22:23 | 3177655 prains
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....and he stuck in his thumb and pulled out a.......

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:08 | 3177018 Say What Again
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Boehner is being serviced right now.

You know how we like to be calm when we need to speak to masses.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:46 | 3177293 Theta_Burn
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Well someones getting serviced...

After hrs dow just got a Boehner....WTF

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:47 | 3177129 Say What Again
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"He's late."


The Trannies are having difficulty getting him out of his "restraints."


Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:04 | 3177178 A Lunatic
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Try back tomorrow, when he's scheduled to speak...........

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 17:54 | 3176977 CH1
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I'm taking bets on the GOP actually doing anything substantial.

Any suckers... umm... takers?

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:00 | 3177002 fonzannoon
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How long can the big ratings agencies sit on their balls and watch this go on before one of them has to do something?

I know I know...forever.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:08 | 3177019 Everybodys All ...
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Republicans have no choice but to let the nation slide and warn that the ratings agencies will downgrade the US again and again. We all know this type of governing is not sustainable but no one can stand up to Obama. The mainstream media just will not hold Obama responsible so they may as well just let Obama have what he wants and hope that when the whole thing goes down they don't get blamed.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:18 | 3177055 Pure Evil
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You must have overlooked this ZH post:


SEC Bars Egan-Jones From Rating The US And Other Governments For 18 Months

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:27 | 3177076 Everybodys All ...
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No I saw that. EJ is a second level ratings agency to begin with and does not carry the regard that the other big three do. However, that doesn't mean that the downgrade will not be politicized and I would bet Obama will do everything he can to intimidate them just like the Marxist he truly is.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:34 | 3177094 SafelyGraze
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rule 1 of any security alarm system:

disconnect those pesky alarms

they're loud. and, frankly, kind of alarming

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:17 | 3177201 SilverIsKing
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The SEC surely didn't treat them like a second level ratings agency.


Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:36 | 3177262 Pure Evil
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They're using them as a scapegoat and definitely sending a message to the other Big 3.

Anyone that disparages The Great One will find themselves suicided.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 20:14 | 3177264 nmewn
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They sure didn't.

On a funnier note, my wife found out why Michelle did the "eye roll" at the inauguration dinner while shoveling food into her face.

Boehner asked her if she needed a doggie


Wait a minute...I completely missed O'Barry jamming TWO fingers up his nose!


Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:41 | 3177276 El
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So. "EJ...does not carry the regared that the other big three do." You mean the other big three that didn't start cutting ratings until AFTER everything had gone south? Are those the "other big three" you are referring to?

I would put my confidence in Egan Jones over the "other big three" any day.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 23:08 | 3177768 Everybodys All ...
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Don't get me wrong Egan Jones does very good work. Egan Jones just simply is not regarded the same with the bond community whether we like that or not. S&P, Moodys and Fitch just carry much more weight when they move their ratings.

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 07:51 | 3178384 DavidC
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Everybodys All,
If people had read your comment they should have realised - you said second level, not second rate, that's two very different things.


Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:08 | 3177024 nope-1004
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EJR hushed today.  "new normal".


Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:35 | 3177097 juicyfruit
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they must be getting ready to get  S&P to put the US credit rating back up to AAA, oh, why not make it AAAA+, what the hell.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:10 | 3177188 spastic_colon
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maybe equities were ramped today (again) so the repubs had no choice but to concede, niether party wants to be responsible for the first red color in the markets apparently.  There is still a such thing as red and negative numbers right?  Or have I been asleep that long?

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:31 | 3177246 Squid Vicious
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no you just need to wake up by 10:30 to see any red #'s

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 20:16 | 3177362 Fish Gone Bad
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The markets are under the control of the Federal Reserve and its big bank owners.  Since they do not answer to anyone, it is hard to believe the markets will ever fall while there is money to be made.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 22:05 | 3177615 unrulian
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Matter of national security...they are terrorists...or something

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 20:02 | 3177334 Dr. Engali
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Two words Fonz...... Egan Jones.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 20:19 | 3177353 fonzannoon
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I hear ya Doc. Egan got tied up and whipped in the back room. He will be away for a while. 

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:10 | 3177029 Zap Powerz
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The most substantial thing the GOP could do right now is give Obama everything he wants except tax increases.  Eliminate the debt ceiling.  Let Obama borrow all he wants.  In fact, the GOP should out "obama" Mr. Obama and INCREASE spending by 100x.  Write a check to every citizen for a million dollars courtesy of the GOP.  Then the GOP could campaign on the slogan: We gave you a million bucks and Obama didnt!

This is a no lose situation.  If the Kenysians are right, then all that printed money being spent will savel the economy.  If Im right and massive debt is lethal to an economy then it will crash all the sooner and we can get to work building a new nation without as many fuck ups, retards, morons, idiots and statists (but I repeat myself).

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:12 | 3177034 fonzannoon
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"Write a check to every citizen for a million dollars courtesy of the GOP"

They should propose that just to see Obama veto it and explain why that money needs to go to the banks first and then to the public in the form of debt, not cash. Maybe then all the stupid people will wake up.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:15 | 3177046 kaiserhoff
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Me likey.  We too can play the dumb ass card.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:54 | 3177144 JLee2027
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If you were a merchant and everyone just got a million dollars to spend, I'd be adding a couple zeros to all my prices. Result: Instant hyperinflation. Which is why all the bailouts are basically electronic and involve changing excel spreadsheet numbers only. Very little trickles into peoples hands and therefore inflation is kept controlled for a time. 

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:00 | 3177168 fonzannoon
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you would be thrown in jail for price gouging.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:07 | 3177184 JLee2027
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Can't be, it's not illegal. Especially since everyone with a brain would do the same.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:22 | 3177213 SilverIsKing
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Perhaps a petition should be started asking the Federal government for $1 million per person so they can pay the banks the money they owe rather than give the money to the banks directly.  It's a "win-win".  It will surely obtain the required 25,000 signatures and force the White House to respond.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:39 | 3177266 TheSettler
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Takes 100,000 sinatures now

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:39 | 3177271 DosZap
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 It will surely obtain the required 25,000 signatures and force the White House to respond.

No, the Whitewhorse now makes you submit a 100k petition befre any reply.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:01 | 3177172 Bastiat
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I would like my check two weeks before anyone else, please.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:39 | 3177268 Pure Evil
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No way we can allow you to profit by buying gold/silver at rock bottom prices before the hyperinflation hits.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:41 | 3177278 Harbanger
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"All the stupid people will wake up"?  Really?  Most people don't even understand basic economics.  Politicians have been promising and delivering us IOU checks for our woes for decades, that's just the way they roll.  The national debt bill is now due, bitches.  Blame who you want, but there's no getting around the fact that we're fucking broke.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 20:22 | 3177378 tango
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I could not agree more.  The vast majority of folks have no idea what a deficit is, how much it is or what its consequences are.  This is especially true for Obama supporters who seem not to think about boring things like about long term planning and investment, taxes or saving.  The democrats have drunk the Koolaid, the GOP has a spine of an amoeba and most are too busy simply trying to pay for all the crap they've bought on credit.   Sorry for the rant but the absurdity of all this is too much to take. 

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:19 | 3177038 kaiserhoff
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Hell yes.  Let it bottom out on Rufus' watch.  Fuck the Dictator.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 19:52 | 3177308 Zap Powerz
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Give him all the rope he wants to hang himself.  The more rope the longer the fall and the more sure of the snap of the cervical vertebra.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 17:58 | 3176996 FL_Conservative
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Given how big a pussy he is, I'm betting on the former.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 18:10 | 3177028 Pure Evil
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How do you trust anyone that willingly plays golf with the enemy (Obama) and knows full well it will be shown on MSM newscasts for all to see.

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