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Egypt Faces 'Arab Spring II' As Morsy Imposes 30-Day Curfew

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Egypt appears to be coming unhinged once again. Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy has imposed a 30-day curfew (from 9pm to 6am) on several of the nation's largest cities as tensions rise from several perspectives. The most glaring 'flare' in riots is due to the death-sentences handed out this week to 21 people involved in a Port Said soccer riot - where fans bashed each other with rocks and chairs) about a year ago (where 73 people died and more than 1000 were injured). CNN reports that there are 38 deaths and 415 injuries so far in Port Said - and so the 'Morsy Moment' has occurred imposing curfews. However, while 'blame' has been apportioned to a population started by relatives of the sentenced, it seems there is more at the core of this as clashes between anti-government protesters and security forces enter their third day near Cairo's infamous Tahrir Square. The former Muslim Brotherhood leader, who became Egypt's first democratically elected leader last year, has come under fire by some who compared him to Mubarak and said he has amassed power for himself and his Islamist allies.

The protests in Cairo, Alexandria, Suez and elsewhere in recent days have focused their anger at Morsy.

The bipolar reaction to the soccer riot sentencing...

 

The broader-based unrest...and Morsy's more aggressive stance...

 

Via CNN,

Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy imposed a 30-day curfew on the restive city of Port Said after dozens of people were killed in riots that followed death sentences for people involved in fatal clashes at a soccer match last year.

 

In a nationwide address, Morsy said the curfew would also apply to the cities of Suez and Ismailia near the Suez Canal.

 

A riot broke out Saturday after news that 21 people had been sentenced to death for their roles in the deadly clashes at the Port Said stadium.

 

"All of Egypt condemns this behavior. We will face and confront any threat severely," Morsy said, threatening the increased use of military force. "This is for the security of the citizens and (nation)."

 

Using emergency powers, Morsy set the curfew from 9 p.m. to 6 a.m.

 

"I will act, and now I am acting," the defiant Morsy said as he wagged his finger.

 

At the beginning of his statement. Morsy said he regretted the sorrowful developments from the violence, but the legal process should be respected.

 

"The rules of the law, they are not for specific factions," he said.

 

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By Sunday afternoon, the death toll in Port Said had climbed to 38 over the weekend, health officials said. More than 415 were injured.

 

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The violence began Saturday outside a prison after relatives of those convicted clashed with police and prison guards, the head of Port Said hospitals told state-run Nile TV.

 

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A deadly match

 

They were angry because 21 of their relatives had just been sentenced to death for their role in a February 1, 2012, riot that occurred at the close of a match between Cairo's prestigious Al-Ahly football club and the host Al-Masry team.

 

When the riot ended at the stadium, 73 people were dead and more than 1,000 wounded.

 

Egypt's general prosecutor charged 75 people with premeditated murder and attempted murder, while three Al-Masry officials and nine police officers were charged with "assisting the murderers."

 

According to the prosecutor's office, those charged with assisting knew about the assault ahead of time, didn't confiscate weapons in advance, didn't stop them and -- in the case of an electricity engineer who was charged -- turned off the lights directly over the bleachers where the Al-Ahly fans were sitting right after the visiting team wrapped up its 3-1 victory.

 

Fans from both sides bashed each other with rocks and chairs, yet prosecutors claimed the Port Said supporters were also armed with knives and other weapons.

 

Many died after falling from bleachers inside the stadium, while others suffocated.

 

Clashes enter third day in capital

 

Clashes between anti-government protesters and security forces in Cairo entered its third day on Sunday.

 

Police and soldiers used tear gas to quell a sometimes violent demonstration near Cairo's Tahrir Square -- the symbolic center of Egypt's revolution. Demonstrators threw rocks and burned tires and boxes, according to the state-run al-Ahram newspaper.

 

Police closed all the main roads and highways near Tahrir Square, and vehicles were not allowed to stop or wait near the square, the state-run al-Ahram newspaper reported.

 

Citing the unrest in the vicinity of Tahrir Square, the U.S. Embassy closed its offices on Sunday, according to its website. The British Embassy in Cairo also closed for the day.

 

The protests in Cairo, Alexandria, Suez and elsewhere in recent days have focused their anger at Morsy.

 

The former Muslim Brotherhood leader, who became Egypt's first democratically elected leader last year, has come under fire by some who compared him to Mubarak and said he has amassed power for himself and his Islamist allies. He has insisted his moves were necessary to move Egypt forward in the face of pressing issues and persistent obstacles.

 

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Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:06 | Link to Comment EscapingProgress
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Oppression, the new freedom.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qeada/Saudi scum installed by Hope & Change.

 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment vmromk
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Haven't those Egyptians learned anything from Bernankenstein and the Japs ?

JUST PRINT.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment knukles
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I was just gonna ask how that's workin' out for everybody?

 

(fucking morons... even I could figure out from day one that this shit was Not Gonna Fucking Work as Fucking Advertised... Jesus H Fucking Christ!)

Oh wait a minute.... does this shit qualify for more of the same bad crap in the Middle East and Africa so we can send in troops?
What?
Oh, I don't know how much Gold they have .
Whadday mean that makes a difference?
What?
What Annauki Reptilian Shape Shifting Overlords?

aaagggahh

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:43 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Peace in our time...

and I'll peace on Obamy any old time.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:47 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Always wondered, knucks, what the H. in Jesus H F C stands for.

You being a cosmopolitan man of the world and all, I thought you might know;)

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:02 | Link to Comment knukles
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Jesus' HFC....
Jesus' Hillbilly Fried Chicken?

Kaiserhoff, I have not a clue.
Nor any idea where Jesus H Fucking "Christ on a Crutch" came from, altho I believe that I first heard the latter line recited by R Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket, to be repeated many more time by a MgySgt bud of mine, God rest his soul.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=r+lee+ermey&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:18 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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See, I knew you would have the right answer.  I was thinking Hallelujah or Homo or something, but I'm a Poison Tree Frog man, so what would I know about up town religion?

Reminds me of my favorite Gold Bug movie, and what should probably be our theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBr2Xh599ZI

 

 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:50 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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 An alternative to Jesus Christ. The H is added due to numerous reasons. Some say it stood for Holy, some say it stood for Harold because of, "Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name".

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:44 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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Where's CODE PINK when you need them?

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:50 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Still camping out in the ditch, sucking koolaid through ObamaStraws last I heard.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:08 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Is the pink for the nipples or the snatch... or do we really care????

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:20 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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Pink as in pinkos.  As far as color, ever heard the term, It's all pink in the middle?

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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and while we're on the subject, why is it always the ugly chicks who are exhibitionists?  Life, she is, ze beach.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:05 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Muslim Brotherhood? CIA supported. Saudi funded. Islamic fascists who plan to enslave Egypt and follow US foreign policy dictates.

Al-Qaeda, an arm of the US CIA? Some evidence indicated this to be true.

Muslim Brotherhood backed by the USA is trying to take over Syria, their main combat arm is a very large force of international Al-Qaeda.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 23:12 | Link to Comment caconhma
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Islamic and zionist fascists are together trying to recolonize Africa and Middle East. But this time they have problems: Arab people started to lose fear of their zionist-installed dictators and Arabs countries learn how to fight.

However, as soon as Arabs and Africans learn to fight back bringing a real war to NATO member countries homeland then things will become interesting.

 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:41 | Link to Comment louisianagold
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1600 Penn Ave must be so very proud.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:10 | Link to Comment CH1
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Oppression, the new freedom.

And it's bereaking out all over!

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:46 | Link to Comment unrulian
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we know nothing of oppression.

yet

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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Dictatorship, the new democracy.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:56 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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Glad you frinally got the memo.  Actually, oligarch controlled tyranny is the rule.

The democratic republic was pretty much swallowed whole in the late 1800s when, as John Taylor Gatto put it (paraphrased), there was a second American Revolution in the late 1800s.  It wasn't won through the force of arms, but through the force of insight into how to create public opinion.

Youtube "Th eUltimate History Lesson" for excellent information.

"Democracy" is a psy op.  We aren't a democracy.  We are a republic with a democratic component.

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE, hence the psy op to get everyone thinking it isn't criminal to elect someone who then shreds the Constitution.  Oh, look, that's what the democratically elected criminal is doing.

Obama isn't the lesser of two evils, he's the more effective of to evils since the democrats have signed on to the very same evil they loathed when Bush did it.

It's madness.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:00 | Link to Comment EscapingProgress
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Well, democracy is a dictatorship by the majority in theory, however, in actuality it always gets perverted to serve the interests of the kleptocrats, so I believe what you stated is the wrong way around. A more accurate way of putting it is: Democracy, the new dictatorship.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:06 | Link to Comment clara-to-market
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The Arab Spring is all about the price of bread.

It has nothing to do with freedom.

People are tired of being broke dead dicks.

They want some cash in their pockets.

http://www.angrysinner.blogspot.kr/2013/01/sunday_27.html

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 07:36 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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Arab Spring was about JOBS - which there are not enough of and FOOD - the price of which is skyrocketing  along with CORRUPTION in government 

 

How long before the same riots occur here?   (when do Food Stamps and long term unemployment run out?)


Mon, 01/28/2013 - 00:05 | Link to Comment MSimon
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I was under the impression that around here the stock answer is - the Jews did it. With the general attitude being - Islam is misunderstood.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:06 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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"I was under the impression that around here the stock answer is - the Jews did it."

This vs. is from the Babylonian Talmud, the holiest, highest document comprising the philosophy of the Rabbis: "Even the best of the goyim (a mongrel, human + non-human) deserve only death."  Do you deny this vs. is a tenant of the Holiest Book in all Judaism?  Or do you approve of the vs.?  Inquiring goyim like me want to know.  (In reality, there is no such thing as a gentile/Jew since God had Rome destroy the Temple, so I use the terms the way the world uses them, as proscribed by the Rabbis themselves.)

Also, the Talmud proscribes the death penalty for anyone reading the Talmud to dishonor it, or who is not a supporter/believer in the Talmud.  If you don't support the Talmud, you just earned the death penalty for reading the vs. above. 

Maybe you say the Talmudic death penalty is stupid and pointless because it's not carried out?  The Talmud is filled with escape clauses.  Here are examples.  In addition to the above death penalty, the Talmud prohibits a Jewish MD from treating a goyim patient on the Sabbath.  Also, it prohibits a Jew from shaking a gentile's hand.  You reply that you are a goyim and a Jewish MD treated you on the Sabbath?  And you've seen the Jew Joe Lieberman shake a gentile's hand?  Sure, you are correct.  The Talmudic escape clause allows Jews to break the law if/when Jews would suffer loss by obeying the law.  Today, if a Jew in the West enforced the above Talmudic laws, the Jews would be punished, they would loose their place of enshrinement in the west.  The day the Jews have complete control, and they would suffer no loss by enforcing the rule, that day they enforce the rule.     

BTW, I am the first to admit that common "Jews" suffer first and foremost under the tyranny of the Rabbis.  To this day the Rabbis declare that the Jews Hitler killed got what they deserve because they turned away from the Rabbis.

"With the general attitude being - Islam is misunderstood."

I have no idea what you mean by the above.  What you and most westerners apparantly misunderstand is that the Muslims who wage war against the USA do not wage war because "they hate democracy."  They wage war because we protect Israel, their neighbor with no friends in the neighborhood except the dictators we bribed (Egypt prior to 2011, Jordan's King Hussein...we bribed them both to agree that "Israel has the right to exist").  They war with us because we meddle in their national affairs, picking sides rather than allowing them to sort out their own matters.  We violate G. Washington's Farewell Address, sticking with Israel ("unbreakable bond") even when there is absolutely no benefit to us except that the stink of the most racist, biggoted nation on earth wipes permanently onto us.

I believe there are apparently Muslims who cut off persons hands.  We, the glorious enlightented west, murdered 50M unborn babies, whose abortions don't appear on YouTube.  I disaprove of both.  I'll leave it to God to pick which is worse, though I have my opinion.  Barack cries for murdered school children.  Did he cry on TV when he blew to smitherenes with a drone attack the 16 year old Muslim son of Anwar Al-Awlaki (two weeks after killing the father...both were American citizens....these were targetted assasinations of un-charged American citizens).  Is this less heinous than publicly cutting off hands?  

I am firmly against any and all human violence, even for self defense.  It's against my religion.   

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:07 | Link to Comment T-Silver
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Round 2

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Banksters
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Double post... so solly

 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:13 | Link to Comment Banksters
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Fortunately, Obama is still selling record amounts of weapons to theocratic dictatorships as he attempts to disarm US citizens.

 

WASHINGTON, Aug. 29 (UPI) -- Export of U.S. weapons abroad soared more than three times the previous level in 2011, at least partly because of the continuing tensions over Iran's disputed nuclear program in the Persian Gulf region.

 

 


 http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2012/08/29/US-arms-sales-hit-record-66-billion/UPI-53581346269568/#ixzz2JDxMvU7B

 

 

With $30 Billion Arms Deal, U.S. Bolsters Saudi Ties Who the FUCK CARES that Saudi Arabia KIDNAPS, TORTURES, and KILLS anyone that publicy criticizes its authority? By the way, if anyone needs to know why we need a 2nd amendment, say KENT STATE.

  The Kent State shootings—also known as the May 4 massacre or the Kent State massacre[2][3][4]—occurred at Kent State University in the U.S. city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of unarmed college students by the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanentparalysis.[5]

 

Fuck stick BLOOMBERG seems to have forgotten this little incident.    

 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 23:24 | Link to Comment EscapingProgress
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White House Efforts to Relax Gun Exports Face Resistance - May 3, 2012

(by Adam Entous and Evan Perez, WSJ.com) – U.S. homeland-security and law-enforcement agencies have objected to Obama administration proposals to relax export restrictions on high-powered firearms, threatening a centerpiece of the president’s trade…agenda.

The agencies, in internal memos viewed by The Wall Street Journal, warn the changes could help arm drug cartels and terrorists and make it harder for the U.S. to crack down on gun-trafficking.

...

Homeland Security warned in its memo that many eligible countries in Europe have “considerable government corruption, significant underground economies and no border controls for exports allowing these countries to serve as transshipment points for diversion of small arms and light weapons.”

Ben Swann's Reality Check: Fast and Furious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZebQ5NLYUfk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBUzbbudMt4

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 23:42 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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If there was any reasonable method to earn money besides joining the military, I doubt they could recruit many people dumb enough to join, then get shot in the head by guns and bullets originally sourced from the USA.  Insane.

Think about this if you work somewhere making military type weapons and your child is in the military: Your could make the gun and/or ammo that kills your child.  

Does that not make you feel warm and fuzzy?   

A Bible vs. comes to mind: "Those who hate me love death."

Do you love death? 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:10 | Link to Comment Eireann go Brach
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If Obama imposed a curfew, American fat asses would love it so they can sit home and watch TV all day and stuff their faces like the fat pigs they are!

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:09 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I take it, Egyptian citizens were properly disarmed by TPTB long before realizing and saying...hey, wait just a fucking minute?

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:12 | Link to Comment de3de8
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Waiting for the F-16's and A-1 Abrams.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:16 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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Sequels rarely do better than the original

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:24 | Link to Comment knukles
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As if the first one was a box office hit.
Y'all come back now, ya'hear?

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:53 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Godfather 2 was an exception...

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 23:35 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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Alien, then later Aliens

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:17 | Link to Comment PGR88
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Obama will support Morsi through thick and thin.

Everything he and Clinton have touched in the Mid-east has turned to shit.  Libya is now another Somalia.  Al Qaeda roams free in North Africa.  Syria is in the midst of a brutal civil war.  His boy Morsi in Egypt publicly refers to Christians and Jews as "pigs and apes."    Obama can't even say one word of support for the middle-class "Green Revolution" in Iran.

And people say Bush caused chaos in the Mid-East?   Obama and Clinton are angels of death.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment joego1
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IF you read the history of the MB you can kind of get the idea of what sort of world these guys want to achieve. They thought Hitler had some progressive ideas.Obama and friends seem to agree.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:05 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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With all due disrespect mister, what difference, at this point, does this make.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:29 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Ya gotta say it with all the raw passion and the sense of indignity of the question posed by this peon, to one who has lost their "friend", the first ambassador in thirty five years, "a friend" who's email request you didn't see because you get thousands of emails.

"What difference does it make now?"

See, much better ;-)

Friends don't let friends come under attack for seven hours and do absolutely nothing. They also return emails and phone calls when "the friend" is begging for more security while carrying out your orders to run guns from the Benghazi consulate.

She's a lying, psycho and always has been.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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Michael Piper makes a good case that the following pesons were recruited by the CIA while they attended University:

Bill Clinton

Hillary Rodham

John Kerry

It was the CIA's job to recruit persons who could/would easily be perceived as leftists, but who were doing "The Firm's" research all the while.   You know, like Al Qaeda is now, they look like anti-USA types while they act as CIA agents. 

Mossad killed JFK (with the help of the CIA and the mob run by Jew Meyer Lansky) because JFK forbade Israel from going nuclear because it would upset the balance of power in the mideast.  JFK also threatened to disband the CIA because it was an unsupervised 4th branch of the government.  Obviously the mob was not too happy about Bobby K. tossing their leaders in prison after they delivered the White House to John on Joe's orders (mob owned The Teamsters, Joe was in bed with the mob, the mob ordered IL Teamsters to vote for John even though they were Protestant and they hated John for being a Roman).

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 00:11 | Link to Comment MSimon
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"Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus" look it up.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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What it means is that, of the 1.6 B Muslims on the planet earth, those who harbor the most hate for Westerners, do so because so-called "Christians" (both Romans and "Protestants") are now, almost universally, followers of the descendants of the murderers of Christ, the Rabbis.

Anyone who believes the apostate nation of "Israel" is fulfillment of the OT is an idolater, someone who wrongly believes God promised Land rather than Messiah.  If you believe God promised both, you attempt to follow two masters, which is impossible.  You love/idolize the one (Land/Israel) and hate the other (God).

The new wine, which is Jesus' blood, when it pours into you, causes you (the wineskin) to burst.  "Flesh and blood can not inherit the Kingdom of God."  "The Kingdom of God is within you."  "(Jewish) flesh profiteth nothing."  In one vs., Jesus, talking to Pilate states 3x in succession: "My Kingdom is not of this earth."   

"Beware the yeast of the Pharisees."  The only teaching allowed in virtually all western "churches" (not in Scripture as translated) is Pharisaical lies now.  "Beware the (verbal) 'traditions of the elders' ", which later became the Talmud a couple centuries later.

 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 23:21 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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And the effective difference between a so-called Jew and a so-called "Christian" is exactly what?  First Rome banned the Talmud (holiest book in all Judaism) then Rome gave Jews their greatest gift, allowing the Rabbis to republish their holy Talmud.  A few years ago Rome outlawed Paul of Tarsus' doctrine that Ioudious (wrongly translated "jew) murdered Christ.  Rome now states if you believe or speak that the Hebrews murdered Christ, you must go to hell, you are "anathema." 

During the Inquisition, when faced with worshipping the Pope or loosing their heads, the Rabbis joined Rome en masse and have exerted their Rabbinical influence ever since (see Judaism's Strange Gods by Hoffman). 

Oxford insured the Rabbis would come to own so-called "Protestantism" (they protest nothing) at the beginning of the 20th C when they published The Scofield Reference Bible, instructing the stupid goyim to believe that God promised Hebrews land (Israel) + Messiah: "no man can serve two Gods" (God and land/Israel), "My Kingdom is not of this world".  This Bible was the first time Judaic-run Oxford published a book by an unpublished author and Scofield was a convicted USA criminal with no education. 

All of this modern belief in Jesus' still-future coming to Israel is mainly of the Rabbis and to benefit Rabbis (USA fights wars for Israel and gives them money to protect the so-called "holy land" (unmitigated putrid racist bigotry).

Immediately after Martin Luther's so-called "revolution" against Rome, Luther signed letters of peace with his Annabaptist  "brothers" who refused peado-baptism.  Exactly seven years later Luther perfectly imitated the Pope and signed death warrants against the Annabaptists.  The "Reformation" was the most failed movement in man's history.  The past SBC President promoted death to believers in Israel, ordering them to leave Palestine for Israel: "It's God's way or the highway."  Sweet. 

Daily prayer for Judaic males: "Thank you g_d you did not make me a slave, a gentile, nor a woman." (Babylonian Talmud)

Judaism: The worship of the Judaic male as God. (Hoffman)

"Even the best of the gentiles deserve only death." (BT)

 

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 10:27 | Link to Comment Random
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Good, good, good (90% of it)! The difference between a so called christian and a jew (or anyone of the "3 major religions") is the following:

- if a jew is faced with certain death he is allowed to LIE about his beliefs or to convert, to save his life  (apostate); for jews it is MANDATORY to LIE in this situation! (see convertidos/sephardim in Spain);

- if a muslim is faced with certain death he is allowed to LIE about his belifs or to convert, to save his life  (apostate); for muslims it is MANDATORY to LIE;

- if a christian is faced with certain death he is NOT allowed to LIE about it, as that means he will reject Jesus Christ;

I hope you do not confuse CHURCH with FATE, but nonetheless you are on a very good track to reach understanding (if you haven't already).

Peace!

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 00:12 | Link to Comment Oldrepublic
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angels of death? you mean like Josef Mengele?

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:19 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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While the bloodthirsty Netanyahu is getting thirsty again...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57566072/israel-warns-of-possible-pr...

"Israel warns of possible pre-emptive chemical weapons strike in Syria"

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=164607

The Iron Dome anti-missile defense system has been installed in northern Israel, according to the IDF

While the Patriots are operational in Turkey...

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/first-nato-patriot-operational-in-turke...

First NATO Patriot operational in Turkey

Shit about to go down... especially with the Israeli election over...

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:14 | Link to Comment ApollyonDestroy
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Right on point. Currency war, trade war, world war. 'Stennis vs. wasp-nest' in the PersianGulf. Que the new middle east shock & awe. Can't wait to see what the Iranians do to the Saudi refineries. War is going to be great for our dead FRN

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:58 | Link to Comment luckylogger
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Exactly my thought this morning when I saw these articles.....................................

We do not need their oil anymore........ maybe we should just let them shoot it out.

Then pick the winners?

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:18 | Link to Comment ApollyonDestroy
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The very few win, we lose. Well maybe not me, see ya in butt fuck Idaho ;)

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:20 | Link to Comment inevitablecollapse
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you've taken the lead (in my book at least) for best AVI 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:21 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Ugh.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment Dasa Slooofoot
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Guess they don't have something similar to a 2nd amendment there to make their overlords think twice about attacking them.  Oh well....

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment potlatch
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birth pangs

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:14 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Hillary Clinton and the Obama admin supported the original uprising. Onward to a new dictatorship you political hacks in Washington created!

Over 30 years ago Washington supported the Shah of Iran and helped create the present day Iran.

When will the US learn to stay out? Maybe when it goes broke.

 

 

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:06 | Link to Comment knukles
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One of the MSM reported the riots were as a result of a soccer game.
Kinda like the Benghazi movie disturbances.

But what the fuck... "Why's it even matter anymore" (or whatever that famous quote might be)...

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:19 | Link to Comment yogibear
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It's a great  platform for Obama's admin to post disinformation and propaganda.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:55 | Link to Comment knukles
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Yabba dabba do!
You are smarter than the average bear by a load, Yogi.

Amazing how one can in plain conversation mention something of this ilk and draw blank stares.
I mentioned this very morning to a pal about how Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn had been downloaded via a book seller (I remember not which) in it's original form.  Several months later, people who'd bought it referred to their download they'd paid for and found a totally redacted version removing much of the original language found to be politically incorrect.
Blank stare.  The "They'd never do that."
I pointed out the continual redaction of Russian history and ...
Well, he told me that I heard it from somebody making it up.
I told him I read it in Wired, which I will in this case take as reasonable.
Said he'd never heard of Wired.

Redacted history right here on your electronic device, my friends.
Beware, be very aware,

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:55 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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Next you'll be telling me that certain thoughts are crime for which persons are imprisoned.

Oh, sorry, that's already the case in Canada and seventeen EU nations, where persons are imprisoned for disagreeing with (i.e. "denying") the West's highest icon/sacrament "holocaustianity."

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 04:06 | Link to Comment Zwelgje
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And at the same time Westerners say they are hated for their Freedom!

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 23:03 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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Call it what it is: counterfeit

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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WHO COULD'VE FUCKING KNOWN?

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:25 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
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Left-turd sycophant media has Barry's tiny little pee-pee in their mouths and are sucking for all they are worth, like the old white men in Boyztown bathhouses.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:51 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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sharia does not come easy to a country with a secular history like Egypt.

maybe the Egyptians don't want to play world-wide sharia and communism.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:43 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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Now that Bronco is back in President, he can be more flexible.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 21:48 | Link to Comment joego1
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HP artical about Hilary and Obama slapping theirself on the back on what a splendid job they have been doing. I had to poop on their parade, it was just to much fun;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/27/obama-clinton-60-minutes_n_2563...

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:32 | Link to Comment newengland
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Meanwhile in the war that was won by the West for the banksters....

 

The Kurd Sunni president of Iraq is in a Frankfurt hospital, and the rival prime minister has opened  fire on Sunni Kurds this past week.

We only need one no fly zone: a ban on travel between our land and anyone who threatens us. The Asiatics are bat shit crazy, but CONgress is full of dual passport holders and Zionists who lure the Republic of the USA into their ancient hatreds and useless wars. At our expense, not theirs.

Apologies to sane Asiatics who believe in the Constitution, and defend it. The old world is bat $sht crazy. That's why colonists left the monarchists and despots of the old world. Edomites.

JP Morgue and Morsi do so very much love their profiteering.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 00:18 | Link to Comment MSimon
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Excellent. The Jews have captured your mind.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 06:44 | Link to Comment toomanyfakecons...
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I largely agree. What does America have to learn from old world and turd world countries? Nothing.

 

The foreign spies in Congress and the Senate must be locked up.

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 22:34 | Link to Comment newengland
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Edomites : the Arab Death, not Spring.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 00:18 | Link to Comment MSimon
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Look up "Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus"

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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Anyone, at this late date, who has not come to realize the USA either planned or at the very least allowed 9-11 to happen (IMO the former, not the latter) has their head where no sunshine can be found. 

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Oldrepublic
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all revolutions are complex from the French to the Russian, the revolution in Egypt is far from over. I am no expert in Egyptian affairs but I have visited Cairo a number of times in recent years and spent a lot of time in

Cairo coffee houses talking to what is known as members of the "Arab street," very interesting discussions.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 02:59 | Link to Comment Lord Of Finance
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Well it's been just over 30 years since the last one, so now the time has finally come for another islamic revolution/evolution. And, just like all the other islamic revolutions before, the protesters and the policy makers(the foriegn interventionist policy wonks,i.e; America,Nato,Europe), have not the faintest clue as to what a "regime change" means.

 

 

    Like, uh, those who don't learn from history are like, uh, condemned/destined to repeat it, or something. Huh, huh, huh-huh. Like hey Beavis, huh-huh. Whose dumber? Huh. The stupid protestors, huh-huh, or the stupid politicians? Huh.

 

   Beavis:  Yeah. Yeah. Like I was saying. Their all stupid.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 02:57 | Link to Comment dunce
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We might have a clue as to what was going on under the surface if obama had not totally alienated Israel, the Mossad would have the inside track and have kept us posted. As it is they will only give us something when we agree to give them something first. No more share and share alike, evrything will have a price in money, arms, or intelligence. When dealing with the likes of our liar in chief, you demand the goods up front.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 03:11 | Link to Comment Lord Of Finance
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Obama has alienated all his opposition. Both foreign and domestic. He is the worst sort of politician to ever have entered/infested the white house. He is a sympathizer for the islamic jihadists and totalitarian marxists. He is an enemy within. He is not a dupe or a puppet. He is a true believer in the cause for which he stands, and that is to bring the evil islamicists and marxists to a seat at the table. He is the type of scoundrel, that if he ever really did read the old testament, he would sympathize with the pharoah. If he ever really did read the new testament, he would sympathize with Judas Iscariot. If he would ever read the book of revelation, he would sympathize with the devil incarnate.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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Like the world really needs another "Christian Zionist"...NOT! 

Are readers absolutely sure there's no such thing a "radical Zionist?"  From Judaism's holiest of all holy books, the Babylonian Talmud (BT...the other "Torah" of Judaism, which has two Torah): "Even the best of the goyim (a mongrel animal/human mix) deserve onlly death."  Don't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy you stupid goyim?

Or this US Federal Law passed by the Rabbi friends of Bush Sr:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c102:H.J.RES.104.ENR:

Per "The Seven Noahide Laws" of Judaism (not of the Bible, sorry you stupid goyim), all so-called "Christians" are idolators because you idolize Christ.  This means your God-forsaken hero Bush Sr. signed a law outlawing Christianity.  You think I'm kidding? All Christians now comitt a death penalty crime.

http://www.takebackourrights.org/docs/Christians-full%20page.html

How do you like your Rabbinical slave masters you dumb goyim? 

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 06:40 | Link to Comment toomanyfakecons...
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Curfew? Go ahead and try that shit here in America.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 08:15 | Link to Comment Fred123
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rofl....stupid mussies...

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