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Department of Homeland Security to Purchase 7,000 "Assault Weapons"

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Via Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The hypocrisy of the government knows no bounds.  I have said repeatedly, and continue to say, that I am against all gun control at the moment because our government is extremely violent and not only do I not expect it to protect the American people in general, I believe it is far more concerned with protecting the status quo from the people.  It has become crystal clear that the political and financial oligarchs are quite intentionally attempting to disarm the populace while arming themselves to the teeth in anticipation of some horrible economic event they know is inevitable.  From the Blaze:

The Department of Homeland Security is seeking to acquire 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO “personal defense weapons” (PDW) — also known as “assault weapons” when owned by civilians. The solicitation, originally posted on June 7, 2012, comes to light as the Obama administration is calling for a ban on semi-automatic rifles and high capacity magazines.

 

Citing a General Service Administration (GSA) request for proposal (RFP), Steve McGough of RadioViceOnline.com reports that DHS is asking for the 7,000 “select-fire” firearms because they are “suitable for personal defense use in close quarters.” The term select-fire means the weapon can be both semi-automatic and automatic. Civilians are prohibited from obtaining these kinds of weapons.

 

That being said, it is reasonable for the Department of Homeland Security to request these rifles as they are indeed effective personal defense weapons. The agency is tasked with keeping Americans safe from those who wish to do the country harm, and its officials should be equipped with all the tools they need to do so effectively.

See the meme being pushed here?  These guys want the entire population completely domesticated.  They want us to depend on the government for food.  For healthcare.  For self-defense.  Two sets of laws.  One for the “rulers” and one for the “ruled.”  This is the opposite of how things function in a free society.

I am sorry, but unless you think the DHS is preparing for an invasion by Al Qaeda, it is quite clear these weapons are being bought for future use against the citizenry of the United States.  The writing on the wall couldn’t be clearer.

Full article here.

 

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Mon, 01/28/2013 - 22:55 | 3193608 Killer the Buzzard
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I would say "molon labe" but alas, I had a boating accident and there is nothing to take.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:01 | 3193636 Muppet of the U...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL_3Qg-SADY

Every person should be well aware.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:05 | 3193650 EnglishMajor
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Al-Qaeda sure won't try to start any shit now.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:23 | 3193697 Kitler
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7,000 5.56x45mm NATO “personal defense weapons”

What's the worry? They said these are clearly "personal defense weapons" that they want to buy.

What I want to know is what are they planning to do to us that will make us go so berzerk that it makes it necessary to acquire them in the first place?

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:30 | 3193729 fourchan
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bought with our money.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:59 | 3193831 krispkritter
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A guy that works with DHS said these are intended for the extra border patrol officers they authorized awhile back. He stated they are intended for take home purposes and that the bulk of them carry all their gear, all the time. I pointed out that seeing as some dick-smack in CT proposed a bill seeking to limit guns to single round, single fire, that it was not in our best interest to allow the gov't to have superior small arms and tilt the firing line in their favor. Him and several like him agreed apparently. I think this and the bulk ammo purchases are probably within the scope of the growing militarized structure of the regime but that it's not solely intended for use against the citizenry but it could and would be used if 'they' felt a threat was imminent. Problem is who is threatened by whom that would set the tone of any such conflict and right now it's not looking good. And after a back and forth with the above and a number of LEO's and military, a goodly portion of that hardware would simply 'walk away' if any orders were given to indiscriminately fire on a civilian population on US soil. I have more of a problem with DHS being able to afford(using our money) a premium for weapons that should be able to go into the civilian market(now)  than I do with arming border agents, such as those killed in Fast and Furious. I also find the wording of the proposal as being for 'personal defense' to be laughable given the spewings of Cuomo, Bloomy, and that cunt Feinstein(or Frankenstein) against our natural rights to safety via personal defense of our property and well being. In my fantasy, those three take a Mexican holiday with Holder and end up on the wrong end of F&F weapons...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:06 | 3193850 Pladizow
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I'll say it again, America = Dead Man Walking!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 02:38 | 3194137 sitenine
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Here is the link to the original RFP

https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d791b6aa0fd9d3d8833b2efa...

Personal Defense Weapons Solicitation

Solicitation Number: HSCEMS-12-R-00011

Agency: Department of Homeland Security

Office: Immigration & Customs Enforcement

Location: ICE-OAQ-MS

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 04:51 | 3194206 OutLookingIn
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Hitler came to power with help of Ernst Rohm who was head of the SA (brown shirts)

Once Hitler had power he turned loose the SS in what became known as the 'Night of the Long Knives.' In which the upper echelon of the SA was lured to a Bavarian mountain resort for a celebration. After an evening of drinking and debauchery, the SA were slaughtered in their beds, along with all other opposition throughout Germany.

This paved the way for the SA to be disbanded and it's members absorbed into Hitler's SS, which was soon to be a part of the German army, but answered only to Hitler.

The DHS if allowed to be armed as much as the US army soldier's are, is well on it's way to be the new SS.    

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 05:57 | 3194240 Sandmann
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The SA was UNARMED. The Waffen-SS was NOT part of the German Army - it was separate like the US Marine Corps. It was a Party Organisation not an Army Organisation. The SS was part of the RHSA which controlled all Police, Secret Police and Security Units operating as Gestapo inside Germany and SD outside Germany. The Reichswehr warned Hitler in 1932 that if he attempted to seize power he would be crushed by the Army. In 1938 the Army - in the shape of General Beck asked for England's blessing in staging a coup against Hitler over Czechoslovakia - the British Government refused to support him

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 08:06 | 3194311 GetZeeGold
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I envision a day when we will lay a wreath on the tomb of the unknown DHS solder.

 

The Marines are looking for a few good men......but the DHS will take just about anyone else.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:35 | 3194465 johnQpublic
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I am sorry, but unless you think the DHS is preparing for an invasion by Al Qaeda, it is quite clear these weapons are being bought for future use against the citizenry of the United States

 

yup

welcome to al qaeda folks

apparently you are all members now

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 11:00 | 3194728 FEDbuster
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Let''s also not forget that the Wicked Witch of the West Feinstein's bill exempts Congress from all the restrictions and bans.  I haven't read the whole thing, but I am guessing that former Congressmen are exempt, too.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 11:42 | 3194916 Coast Watcher
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What you mean, "you are all members," Kemo Sabe? You think you're not part of the "target audience" too?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 05:17 | 3194224 Bloodstock
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American gun owners will not comply.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 11:29 | 3194859 Rusty Shorts
Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:48 | 3193985 cynicalskeptic
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Uh.... with the US economy tanking, the number of illegal immigrants has been DROPPING. Those that are here are LEAVING.   

The ATF has been arming Mexican Drug gangs (and the CIA has been trafficking drugs for decades).  So what exactly are border patrol types doing?  

Maybe the whole US will end up as a giant FEMA camp.  They won't let YOU leave (having already made it near impossible for you to get your money out of the country).  Financial controls are a sign of a nation in serious trouble - trying to keep people from taking money OUT of a failing economic and financial system.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:55 | 3194078 Manthong
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Maybe DHS could conduct a gun buy-back program for the Mexicans the ATF sold all those F&F assault rifles to.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 05:11 | 3194217 Daily Bail
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Bill Maher ususally pisses me off, but this is spot on:

'The only thing that still has bipartisan support in Washington is not giving a shit about civil liberties.  And now, the only rights we have left are the guns and no civil liberties left to use the guns to protect.  We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers.'

Bill Maher On Guns And Civil Liberties In America
Tue, 01/29/2013 - 07:53 | 3194302 ParkAveFlasher
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Bill found God, then?  Or, he just needs ratings?  

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 08:08 | 3194312 GetZeeGold
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I'll give a sandwich to some kid in Africa....but there's no way in hell I'm watching that crap.

 

Then again....I've never followed American Idol or Dancing with the Stars either.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:06 | 3194391 new game
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move the mutha fuka downstairs and thinkin to craigs list whole lotta big screen, surrounda and netfux monthly.

obsolete equip...

mindchatter minddrival

must keep the'upstairs' clear to all threats whether domestic or ....

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 10:59 | 3194721 Parabox
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But because it's Bill Maher, I assume he means that as a way to say that guns are no longer necessary becasue there is nothing left to protect.  Using the stripper metaphor:  Fire the bouncers because there are no strippers to protect.  I dont trust assclowns like Maher.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 12:46 | 3195156 Shizzmoney
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Interesting take here by Bill, who was also a lover of SOPA and other copyright bills (which his employer obviously was a part of).

I think the 180 has a little to do with his love of pot, and alot to do with falling ratings and the fact that after this pro-SOPA rant, MANY of those under the age of 35 were turned off to his show.

Well that, and those under 35 can't afford cable anyways....which is why we "illegally" download shit.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 07:18 | 3194281 new game
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7000 black beauties is nothing compared to homeland fraud, ops, security and their equiping of locali pd's over the last 8 years.

point is police depts are armed like they have never been before.

real qu,estion should be:is your neighbor or the reserve dude and national guard dude that you just grilled burgers with, gonna round ya up and cart your ass off to a holding area or jail?  are you ready to shot your neighbor that is now wearing a uniform?

could this happen? could these peace loving neighbors turn against their own citizenry? or will good honest peace loving americans get pissed off and say eneough of this crap, we are taking back our liberties.

IMFO we may be past the point of no return if semi autos gets passed and actualy implimented; at that point, if it happens, the call to arms will be heard.  will anybody be listening or to busy watchg and remaing braindead by tvee and pods???

it will be a small minority, like in lexington, that will fire the second shot heard around the world, cause imfo it is about world control of the last countrie with the citizens with a half a billion guns in the hands of 100 million peoples. and that 100m will be shareing with gunless as they see it is a winning cause-hope/wish-dream,.,.,.,,,. i digress, back to my fucking hole and cover up. good day!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 07:28 | 3194286 new game
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or is the problem as simple as the fact that the american u may be hoping to join the cause is one fat mothafucking lazy iq of 90 dumb muthafucking gmoed out pharmacuticaled litarded worthless pos sitting on the couch watch'g tbee and clueless as to wtf is even happening????

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:20 | 3194427 Go Tribe
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This notion that LEOs and Guard won't fire upon civilians is baloney. They are carefully trained to keep the peace and defend infrastructure. If individual civilians do get fed up and begin fighting back for any reason - gun confiscation, taxes, regulations, etc. - there will be government offices damaged, government employees shot, foreclosing sheiff deputies shot, patrol cars shot up, etc.  Then...LEOs and Guard will have their "moral authority" to kill the perps who in many people's minds are simply innocent civilians. Remember, they are carefully trained and they are against us until they turn in their arms and stand down.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:35 | 3194459 dwdollar
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Sounds like a clever ruse. How incompetent is the average DHS worker? No doubt there will be many accidents... discharges, thefts, etc. What a great plan to "prove" that having "assault" weapons at home is too dangerous. After all, if trained and "professional" government employees can't handle them properly, who can???

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:31 | 3195295 pine_marten
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7000 battle field pick ups!  Molon Labe indeed!!!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:04 | 3193843 AlaricBalth
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And I plan on recouping my investment if the SHTF by scooping a few up as they are laying on the ground. The previous user won't have a need for it anymore.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:06 | 3193855 francis_sawyer
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I see we have some Sam Elliott fans in the house tonight...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:27 | 3193908 AlaricBalth
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Custer was a pussy...you ain't.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 10:28 | 3194619 ultraticum
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Custer was one of the bravest soldiers of the civil war. 

His problem:  the Indians at Little Big Horn had lever action rifles and his boys were only using single shots.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:08 | 3194022 Bansters-in-my-...
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You mean "bought with "hour" money",cause thats ists shelf life before it loses value.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 03:41 | 3194172 tip e. canoe
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correction: bought with the FED's money.   we're just paying the interest.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:29 | 3193732 ghengis86
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Spec'd for short barrels too. Perfect for CQC. Protecting the shit out of your home

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 02:29 | 3194129 agNau
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Plu-ugggggggggggs planelllllllly stated........you should own a shotgun.
It is far better protection. It is easier to hit your target.
That Plu-uggggggggggs is won smart guy!
Honestly,
Why would an effort like this allow someone this stupid on board?
He continuously steps on his own d**k!

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:31 | 3193735 francis_sawyer
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Reading that they're buying 7,000 PDW's is enough to make many go berzerk...

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:57 | 3193813 Kitler
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Just so long as there is no anal penetration planned...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:23 | 3193898 Pladizow
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South Beach and San Fran disagree!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:02 | 3193836 salvadordaly
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"PDW" from who? What are they so wooried about? Al Quida has been terminated, with Bin Laden and all. Just who are they protecting theirselves from? I'm sure their "clips" or "magazines" will be no larger than ten rounds anyway! This guberment is so over doing things for such a safe Amerika!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:53 | 3193993 cynicalskeptic
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It's all about keeping those in power, IN POWER.  When the masses realize how badly their government has fucked things up they may actually start demanding real change - and those running things sure don't want THAT.

Your ruling class doesn't have any intenetion of being held accountable - they plan on defending themselves against mobs bearing pitchforks and torches and sure don't want them armed with anything more than that

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 02:01 | 3194092 zhandax
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Look around you tomorrow.  The masses won't realize how badly their government has fucked things up until those PDWs are stuck in their backs herding them onto the boxcars.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:15 | 3194033 Rev. Right
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I heard you could convert a personal defense weapon into an assualt rifle just by thinking it.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 02:12 | 3194107 RafterManFMJ
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LOL, or depending on who holds it...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:31 | 3194051 All Risk No Reward
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>>What I want to know is what are they planning to do to us that will make us go so berzerk that it makes it necessary to acquire them in the first place?<<

That's easy.  Once they finish looting the Treasury and offloading trillions of their debt onto the chumptocracy, they will contract credit (society is debt saturated), the economy will collapse and they will...

1. Take their trillions in debt holdings and foreclose on the chumps in the chumptocracy, turning their worthless cash into your community's real stuff.

2. Use the looted money in order to buy up whatever they can't foreclose on for pennies on the dollar.

3. They will seize government infrastructure and their financed and promoted operatives within government will comply.

The monetary system is a fraud.  It is the world's largest con game.  It is also the most sophisticated Trojan Horse and most successgul Art of War implementation the world has ever seen.

Debt Money Tyranny Exposed

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

By my reckoning, about half the world's money supply will evaporate...  probably more.

See the first chart...

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2958798

Don't worry, all you hyperinflationistas, it will come.  But only when it serves the interests of the Debt Money Tyrants.  You see, they defined "money" as "a covert long term societal assets stripping and enslavement mechanism."

After the societal asset stripping begins in earnest, the Debt Money Tyrants will be willing to bust the bond market (when you OWN REALITY, the bond market becomes meaningless, capiche?), end debt based money (it will have served its purpose (looting America in a way that Americans won't realize WHO did this to them or HOW) and seriously inflate to "balance the books."

See government isn't stupid.  They take society's guns but reserve the right to keep their own.  They criminally insider trade and get away with it.  They sh*t on the chumptocracy and destroy is by working for the Debt Money Tyrants and they keep getting elected.

But even if they didn't, the next politician is also owned by the Highest Bidder and media promoter - that would be the Debt Money Tyrants by definition.

They know exactly what they are doing, but they won't tell you.  Anyone who benefits from their assets better not tell you, either, which is why NOBODY will call out the Fed for breaking Section 2A of the federal Reserve Act and lying about a nonexistent "dual mandate."

The mandate is to keep monetary and credit aggregates commensurate with the long term production potential of the nation.  That's the mandate.

Look at the chart I posted above.  "Exponential to" != "commensurate with".

But they won't tell you.  Nobody in the media establishment will tell you either - unless they want to get kicked off the media circuit.

Vichy "media" is all around us.

99% truth and 1% falsehood when it counts is still Vichy.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 02:01 | 3194091 Oh regional Indian
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Chumptocracy....

All time classic..

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 04:05 | 3194187 tip e. canoe
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Solutions:
1) You are the resistance – so spread this message as wide and as far as you are able.
2) Vote with your money daily - shop local and pay with cash. 100% of profits stay in community.
3) Avoid mega banks like they were the plague because they are the plague. Use a local credit union.
4) Avoid mega corporations that siphon money out of your community and bankrupt it more quickly.
5) Get out and stay out of debt. A free person is not in debt. Value freedom more.
6) Gain more control over the necessities of life. Learn to permaculture gardening. Build community.
7) Value family and people above things. Lust for things is a debt trap that will destroy many.
8) Division precedes conquering, so don't fall for divisive tactics. Find commonalities and be positive.
9) Develop critical thinking. Question. Seek truth, not comfort.
10) Educate before you vaccinate (waivers exist), before eating GMO pesticide “food” or toxified water.
11) Research & implement an anti-inflammatory diet (organic, paleo Zone Diet w/ fish oil is my choice).

most excellent suggestions, gracias.

Sat, 02/02/2013 - 23:26 | 3205315 All Risk No Reward
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Spread the word.

Either we all hang together or we hang separate.

I almost always pay for stuff with $20 bills. 

Andrew Jackson is on the $20 bill and the clerk gets a history lesson that goes like this...

Me - "Do you know Andrew Jackson said his greatest accomplishment was as President?"

Clerk - "uh, no.'

Me - "I killed the bank." and then I hand them the $20 and wonder if they have any idea how bizarre this moment should be for them.

Most people zone out.  Today, two clerks were into it.  I had to eventually leave because they weren't getting any work done.  -lol-

For those interested in more, I explain how debt money works using a $20.

"I'm the bank and I lend you, the society, $20 at 5% interest.  In one year, you owe me $21.  How much do you have?  That would be what I gave you - $20.  You can't pay me back unless I choose to let you because I've subjugated you.  BTW "government" is on your side, not my side.  America is not sovereign, by definition.  If I choose to let you pay me back, you have to be my servant or you have to sell your stuff to me as I sit on my lazy behind and do nothing.  If you pay me back, there is no money and I have your labor and your stuff essentially for free.  Over the last 100 years, they've chosen to create more $20 in order to make the previous $20s payable...  but each $20 has the same problem and debt increases exponentially.

It's all fraud - and both political parties are in on it, so don't expect help from the people who set you up.

Watch They Live from the '70s.  All these government people, high up bureaucrats, media personalities, university managers, etc... are exactly like the humans who get together at secret meetings (Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberger, Bohemian Grove, Davos, etc...) to help the aliens take over Earth.

In this cae, the aliens are criminal gang banksters whose idea of "camo" is a $3,000 and an interview on CNBS.

No, I'm not joking.  I'm 100% serious.  The truth will never be told to you by the estrablishment that only exists because of the lies.

Thinking critically is key and the Trivium method is a simple system, used by the likes of Socrates, to determine what is real, what is not real and what you don't know is real or fake.  Learnign to identify contradiction and fallacies and removing them to get the truth is also key...  the truth has no contradiction and doesn't sit on a foundation of fallacy.

BTW, the Trivium comprises the first three elements of the seven classic liberal arts.  "Liberal Arts" have been hijacked by gang banksters and counterfeited to hide this simple, but very effective, methodology from you.

Startpage.com search "42 fallacies" and learn a couple a day.  Once you learn the fallacies, you will see that the Vichy "news" is built upon a foundation of fallacy.

Debt Money Tyranny - copy the link and send it to people with a personalized introduction from you explaining why you think it is important.  if you don't like it, fine, make your own super cool version and pass it around. 

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 06:17 | 3194255 Radical Marijuana
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"The monetary system is ... the most sophisticated Trojan Horse and most successgul Art of War implementation the world has ever seen." Indeed! According to my experiences, the chumptocracy is almost 99% of the population! Very, very few people understand the Debt Money Tryanny, because very, very few people want to. However, since the Debt Money Tryanny will automatically get worse, faster, it will be "interesting" to see what might survive through that process ???

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:15 | 3194411 new game
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12) learn critical defense, train in full camo and most of all find a partner that will try to kill you with an unloaded gun.

see how you fare? very fun and educational.

my son has killed me way more than i have killed him.

i want him as my partner in the game of survival.

and top if off with some run, rolling, on the fly shoting with live ammo.

don't just stand there and put holes in paper. hang mufflers fry pans and shot tctically til ya hit 75 percent. then relax smoke an american spirt and reflect on areas of improvement.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 12:33 | 3195097 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Paintball comes to mind. 

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 02:16 | 3205321 All Risk No Reward
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The implementation is sophisticated.  The actual Trojan Horse itself is based on 5th grade math.  Lend $20 @ 5%, owe $21 in 1 year, can't pay lender unless lender gives that $1 back to society (which doesn't happen, they are looting society raw).

Who could make up a scenario where 5th grade math is disguised and estroys the world?

Truth is truly stranger than even bad fiction.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 04:00 | 3194182 Redhotfill
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When a govt thug holds a fully auto / select fire AR-15 its a "Personal Defense Weapon"  If joe 6 pack has one its an "assault weapon."

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 06:47 | 3194269 JungleJim
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My God ! Did'nt the President just tell us that the only use for "Assault Weapons" is to kill large amounts of people quickly ? Is that the mission of DHS ?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 08:29 | 3194338 ZippyDooDah
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10-4

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 06:51 | 3194270 Dugald
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Handy tools for ghetto clearance.....

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:25 | 3195270 Carl Spackler
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Actually, these weapons are being purchased for Fast & Furious II, the sequel.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:58 | 3193816 Banksters
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What a racket.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:27 | 3193909 jeff montanye
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War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small 'inside' group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 02:22 | 3205327 All Risk No Reward
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>>It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.<<

The drug trade these oligarchs run also fit the bill.

Opium Wars 2.0.

BTW, people, The oligarch controlled US military isn't losing in Afghanistan.  They don't want to win and leave, they couldn the world's opiumand marijuana trade from Afghanistan if they did.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:59 | 3194006 Silver Bug
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One set of rules for them and one for us. Wow this is sad.

 

Keep Calm and Slave On, must see Queen coin.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:49 | 3194074 Hugh G Rection
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Piers Morgan shits the bed..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jCew9Ze9hs

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:54 | 3194084 UGrev
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Lords of War.. it's real bitches..

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 06:11 | 3194244 Radical Marijuana
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"The hypocrisy of the government knows no bounds."

From the 18 minute mark of that video linked above by Muppet of the U...! More and more those weapons are used against countries' own citizens, which makes perverse "sense" after one recognizes that those governments were often the worst "terrorists," and that the most significant terrorist events were false flag attacks! 

This video quotes the prediction that spending on such "security" is expected to keep on doubling, from about $200 billion to about $400 billion over the next four years! Exponential growth of psychotic insanities is the central characteristic of our current civilization.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 06:06 | 3194245 Radical Marijuana
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"The hypocrisy of the government knows no bounds."

From the 18 minute mark of that video on! More and more those weapons are used against countries' own citizens, which makes perverse "sense" after one recognizes that those governments were often the worst "terrorists," and that the most significant terrorist events were false flag attacks! 

This video quotes the prediction that spending on such "security" is expected to keep on doubling, from about $200 billion to about $400 billion over the next four years! Exponential growth of psychotic insanities is the central characteristic of our current civilization.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 07:01 | 3194273 beaglebog
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Excellent link, Muppet. 

 

Thanks.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:05 | 3195200 rotagen
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Bring it on, I'm gonna take a few of em down before I go.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:00 | 3193637 CH1
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And why is it that we still obey these monsters?

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:03 | 3193643 Theta_Burn
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Political and financial oligarchs will find many of these weapons right up thier ass...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:58 | 3194003 Pseudo Anonym
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no, they wont.

Political and financial oligarchs will find many of these weapons right up thier ass...

certainly not if they find a way to take the guns away from you first.  that's why the banksters in new york want the people disarmed pronto - so the political and financial oligarchs will not find many of these weapons right up thier ass... when they go home to hamptons after a sweet day of making sure your savings go poof

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:10 | 3193665 taxpayer102
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"The scope of this contract is to provide a total of up to 7,000 5.56x45mm North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
personal defense weapons (PDW) throughout the life of this contract to numerous Department of Homeland Security
components.

The action shall be select-fire (capable of semi-automatic and automatic fire).

This Statement of Work lists all performance requirements for the acquisition of a DHS 5.56x45mm NATO
'personal defense weapon'"

                                                                                          - link to SOW posted at naturalnews.com

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:09 | 3194024 Freddie
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Idiots watch TV and Hollywoods crap - it keeps the evil scum in power.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:10 | 3193645 wee-weed up
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When the Obama Admin is "protected" in everything they do, by their lapdog MSM and everything they report (and DON'T report) -  there is really no such thing as hypocrisy if no one ever hears about it... or worse, even cares.

Janet Nappy's attitude is, "FU! I can do whatever I want!"

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:30 | 3193734 CH1
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Janet Nappy's attitude is, "FU! I can do whatever I want!"

She really is the arrogant face of fascism.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:41 | 3193769 The Shootist
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Big Sis with a deathwish.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:31 | 3193926 ghengis86
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Big Sis with a strap-on.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 02:27 | 3194125 brak
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^^^ now that's some nightmare fuel 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:56 | 3194000 cynicalskeptic
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You really don't think Romney would care any more about you, and protect your rights, do you?   Obama = Bush III  and whoever follows him will take the same path.

Get over the contrived left/right. Repub/Dem 'choice' when they're all part of the same ruling oligarchy.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:15 | 3194034 wee-weed up
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There's absolutely no friggin' way the MSM would be protecting Romney (or anyone else) the way they do Obama.

Methinks you are missing the real boogy-man here propping up and facilitating Obama. Without them he would be nothing.

Comes the revolution, first against the wall - the MSM!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 08:21 | 3194326 WarriorClass
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Remember the Clinton rules of engagement in Serbia - media is a legitimate target.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:42 | 3194482 TuesdayBen
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The absolute cunts / goons comprising the MSM would be screaming bloody murder at Obamas performance to date were there an R next to his name. If you tune in to the MSM, you are most definitely part of the problem, unless you are just monitoring.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:42 | 3194063 Freddie
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Romney was the NWO's plan B like McCain.   Romney rigged the Mdiwest states because Santorum had Romney beaten.  It was so obvious.  Obama did the same thing to Romney election night.   He and McCain reacted the same way. 

The media does support Obama and the Dems all the way and I have no love for the GOP.  My guess is you watch lots of Tv like a dumb f**k.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:51 | 3193799 1000924014093
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Me too! I swear, there's like a super strong linear correlation between arms collection and boating incompetency.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:43 | 3194064 rotagen
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Well if that's the kind of war they want... a war of the people against the banksters would be the first war worth fighting... I've lived long enough, and I plan on taking at least a few of them down with me.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:37 | 3194470 new game
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the gun went off and the boat sank.  lucky for me i can swim and i hadn't sewn anything into my garments.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 22:57 | 3193618 Silver_K-9
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Brace Yo Self Foo! #Westside #562

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 22:58 | 3193620 linniepar
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Ill sleep soundly knowing they will protect me with their "black rifles."

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:05 | 3193652 THX 1178
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"Defense weapons" when they hold them. Or better yet, "Liberty machines."

They complain about our "caucasian baby killers."

Damn English language.

Damn suggestible shitheads.

Damn. Television. 

Damn.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:15 | 3193689 palmereldritch
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Technically this order is for assault rifles but are for the government officials' personal defense.

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-buys-7000-full-auto-assault-rifles-calls-the...

They must have a Department of Homeland Hypocrisy by now

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:27 | 3193910 WTFUD
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" They must have a department of homeland hypocrisy by now "

No! but if you wait 10 minutes we can put one together. (sarc)

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:42 | 3193967 Buckaroo Banzai
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If semi-auto AR-15s are only good for "mass slaughter", WTF are these 7000 select-fire rifles going to be used for???

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:32 | 3194054 cornedmutton
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Mass slaughter?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:44 | 3194065 Bandit und Buster
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Hmmmm.... I KNOW!  

MASS SLAUGHTER? 

 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:43 | 3194484 new game
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strike three; ummmmm, im thinking, mass slaughter, am i right?

mass homeland fraud, mhf mf's, mass slaughter bitcheez

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:30 | 3193730 a growing concern
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Damn, somebody better get you a job at the Ministry of Truth (MiniTruth) stat! "Liberty Machines"??? Old George Orwell would be impressed for sure.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:02 | 3193837 THX 1178
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"Freedom Delivery apparatus." Freedom delivered at 3,025 fps.

Uncle Sam sez, "Hot DANG that's fast!"

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 02:34 | 3194138 brak
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Munitions: the unit of measurement for freedom.

Jus like exporting freedoms one (drone fired) hellfire at a time!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 07:45 | 3194291 Oldrepublic
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yes, freed from this life!

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:25 | 3193719 HoofHearted
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They can sleep soundly too. A few of us have black rifles also...or did before that boating problem.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:06 | 3193846 LongSoupLine
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Wait a minute...7000 rifles??....

 

 

That must mean we're in a budget surplus environment in order to purchase them...yay!...the fucking recovery is finally here!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 07:52 | 3194301 Stuffs And Stuff
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It's a green shoot!

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:00 | 3193621 Tango in the Blight
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You can buy M16s if they were manufactured and registered before May 19, 1986:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_a_civilian_own_a_M16_rifle

 

You may only own a M16 or other fully automatic machine gun that was manufactured and registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives (BATFE) before May 19, 1986. Fully automatic weapons manufactured after that date are not currently legal for civilian ownership. Because of the 1986 cut off, fully automatic weapons that were registered before that date sell for exorbitant prices.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:08 | 3193659 TheObsoleteMan
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What is the point in buying a registered weapon? So they will know where it is when it comes time to seize them? Most people I know bought their AKs and ARs back in the 1980s and early 90s before the first ban. You still had time, a L_O_N_G  time to buy until the 2008 election, when it was apparent the dems were going to carry the election. All those idiots buying them on paper over the last several weeks, what fools!

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:20 | 3193698 toady
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I buy mine in AZ where the laws are looser and keep them at a address other than the one I use as my address for registration

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:43 | 3193772 The Shootist
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For what, 20k? And after giving big brother all your personal data?

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:57 | 3193814 toady
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I'm not sure what the 20K number is about, but the point of my comment was I only give an address where the weapons will not be stored so if, at some point, the information I provided is used to try to confiscate my weapons they can't just show up and take them.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:04 | 3193847 The Shootist
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MG permits, etc. was to "Tango"

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 10:34 | 3194645 DosZap
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You can buy M16s if they were manufactured and registered before May 19, 1986:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_a_civilian_own_a_M16_rifle

 

Yep, and if you have 5-25k to drop on one. Depending on model and condition.

The DHS calls their M16(not AR15's),since THEIRS are true ASSAULT weapons PDW's.(AR15 is a Colt Trademark)

Personal Defense Weapons, while the Civi version (semi auto's)of the AR 15 Clones are ASSAULT weapons.

Lie, lie,lie.

Guess it depends on WHO has them as to the selective nomenclature huh?.DHS (GOOD), American Citizen(BAD).

The only things (and there are two), factors that determine if a weapon is an Actual ASSAULT RIFLE, is (A) Must use an intermediate powered centerfire rifle cartridge), and (B),must be capable of BOTH FUlly Auto Fire & Semi Fire.

IF those two criteria are not met, it is "NOT" an Assault weapon.

Those that did not / do not know the truth educate the idiots that think bayonets, and pistol grips, and flash hiders and the ability to take 10-20-30-40-100rd mags and drums, MAKE a TRUE ASSAULT weapon.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 22:58 | 3193622 Water Is Wet
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"...it is quite clear these weapons are being bought for future use against the citizenry of the United States.  The writing on the wall couldn’t be clearer."

+1.  Could also be a form of gun control by the government.  Buy up all the guns and bullets, and hoard them.  Makes guns and ammo expensive for civilians, but the government has infinity dollars.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:09 | 3193662 ebworthen
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They don't have enough people, hardware, or bullets to stop the masses if the SHTF.

They can keep dreaming.  It will be the L.A. Riots X 10,000.

Waste of taxpayer dollars.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:20 | 3193704 AL_SWEARENGEN
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Let us pray that the use of foreign troops against Americans to 'restore order' is never even a thought in any public servant cocksucker's mind.  If any thoughts could be treasonous those certainly would be them.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:44 | 3193774 Dr. Richard Head
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I tend to believe foreigners will be more than happy to see GI Joes run back home to deal with American Shit Hitting the fan rather than the shit being thrown into their own country's fan. Then again, I've been know as a pessimist and those countries happen to be required to have their central banks hold dollars thanks to US "protection" of GI Joe fighting for "our" freedom over there.

No wonder I drink so much.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:45 | 3194069 Freddie
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My guess is our troops will be abandonded or stranded whereever they are.  The last thing they want is American troops on American soil.  They will nuke them or something really sick.  They are the face of evil.  100% enabled by ALL of TV and ALL of Hollywood.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:52 | 3194081 Bandit und Buster
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"Pray that the use of foreign troops against Ameicans to 'restore order' in never a thought in any public servants mind..." 

They may not need foreign troops, or they already are here?  Saw a news story today about US mil practicing fly-overs at night over Miami FIRING blanks but 'just for training' of course.  Freaked a lot of peole OUT!

No Shit just for training!  Training for firing live rounds!  Who needs foreign troops when they drug the ones they have? 

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:27 | 3193721 New World Chaos
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"But, but, but, if the Man focuses his magnifying glass on me, I'll be toast!"

-Trolly the cowardly army ant

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:44 | 3193775 Lukacko
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Says these are select fire, so we serfs wouldn't be allowed to buy them anyways. My first thought as well.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:36 | 3193936 Agent P
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The ammo part of the argument would still be applicable...as if it isn't hard enough to get now.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:48 | 3193983 Buckaroo Banzai
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Only difference between select-fire M4 and semi-auto AR-15 is the sear and the selector. Two tiny parts. Otherwise, aside from a barrel which differs in length by 2 inches, they are mechanically identical. So yes, by diverting these to government use, they are taking them out of civilian hands.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:37 | 3194055 TBT or not TBT
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Hmm, thought the "Auto" select-fire M-16 pattern rifles were sort of "loose" feeling versus the usual AR's, and had a little different bolt too.  

Maybe things have changed over the years,

and maybe the selector on these new ones would be a "burst" selection.   That's frankly a whole lot more useful.  

And 7.62 NATO is a whole lot more likely to get the job done, by aiming and making em count.   Getting shot once with an aimed shot from typical deer rifle caliber, even with body armor on, is a whole lot worse than most spray and pray accidental hits from a 223 fired by some lackey with no practice.    Hunting rounds fired by reasonably seasoned hunters are freaking devastating, armor or no.      "Wolverines!"  (someone had to say it)

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 02:53 | 3194145 Rogue Trooper
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Agree TBT. I am a bit of a broken record on the AR15 Rabbit/varmit vs. Deer (sized) round issue.  I mean, how many times have troops just dropped the M16/AR and just grabbed an AK?  Sure they are not has flash and accurate but for stpping power they just pack more of a punch.  The 7.62 NATO is that on spades along with the accuracy.  I've fired both and I know what I would rely on... M1A Bitches!

Plus, has a poster stated earler, if you want one there will be plenty lying around once the SHTF.  If by some small chance the French Army end up coming to save the TPTB then you will be able to find an lots of never fiired , dropped only once, FAMAS Assault Rifles. Will appeal to some....as will the Blue Helmet.  Kinda like a trophy.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 08:36 | 3194349 shovelhead
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I believe the great Elmer Keith referred to the M-16 and the .223 as "poodle-shooters".

Since I ain't as fast as I used to be, I'd rather reach out and touch someone from a distance.

The M1A is an old school tool that says you care enough to send the very best.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 10:39 | 3194669 DosZap
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Department of Homeland Security to Purchase 7,000 "Assault Weapons"

They forgot the 1.5 mllion rounds of ammo already on order, and being deliered from ATG for these, and the 450 million .40 cal hollow points for their Pistols also on order, all to be delivered over a 5yr period(sure).

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:50 | 3194490 TrumpXVI
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Yeah, it's not just two parts.

IIRC you've got to swap out the bolt carrier, the disconnector, the safety (for a fire selector), the hammer (mates w/the disconnector), the receiver has to be drilled (correctly!) for the auto sear.  Some Colts have to have the "shelf" milled (Bushmasters do not).  I think the firing pin is different (but my memory may be failing).  All of these parts can only be legaly purchased w/a Class III license and if you are in possession of ANY of these parts ALONE w/o the license you are headed straight to Pound Me in the Butt Big House w/o passing "Go" or collecting $200.

 

Any questions?

Ask David Koresh.....Oh wait, you can't; because he's dead.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 10:51 | 3194702 DosZap
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+1. Could also be a form of gun control by the government. Buy up all the guns and bullets, and hoard them. Makes guns and ammo expensive for civilians, but the government has infinity dollars.

 

Nope, they would need to order 7 million+ to match what is already in Americans hands.Americans have been prepping for this for many years, many. For those old enough to remember the '94 frenzy, it matched this time,and the SOS went down................everything was snatched up, and at damn good prices.

Along with trillions of rounds of ammo.

 Also,No one has a clue what is /was brought into the US from WWII/Korea/ and Vietnam vets, Buried and ready to be dug out.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:00 | 3193631 Jeremy Roenick
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The oligarchs will have their "security" while the rest of us will be left to hammers, bats and sticks to defend ourselves.  This story is example #1 of why to never turn in a weapon voluntarily to the tyranical overlords. 

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:01 | 3193632 zorba THE GREEK
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223 & 556 will be the new currency after the house of cards falls.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:16 | 3193656 otto skorzeny
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that caliber is alright for the ladies but  men prefer a 7.62x39 caliber- because after the SHTF my AK will be running long after your jammed m-4 is used as your grave marker.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:34 | 3193746 zorba THE GREEK
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Good luck finding replacement parts for an AK as few are interchangeable.

On the other hand AR15 parts are very interchangeable regardless of country

of origin and Colt ARs are at least as reliable as the average AK.

That said, a 7.62x39 AK is still one awesome deterrent and a 308 sure

does a nice job too, but as a senior citizen, I would prefer to fire 2000

rounds of 223 or 556 over 500 rounds of 7.62 or 308, due to the fragility

of an aged body.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:44 | 3193777 The Shootist
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I can take out many a liberal putz with a single .22lr.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:45 | 3193782 otto skorzeny
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there's a resaon you see AKs all over the world and not ARs-because they are built to fucking last no matter how much they are abused. try cleaning an AR with nothing but a shoelace with a knotted end and a little oil and see how long it lasts. 2000 rounds-that's spray and pray for an 18 year old draftee

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:32 | 3193927 deeznutz
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Unless your AR is a piston-driven modern rifle. Frequent cleaning is unneeded.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:53 | 3193995 Buckaroo Banzai
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But dont forget, Direct-impingement is more accurate than piston-driven. If you're worried about carbon fouling in your DI AR, swap the regular bolt carrier group for a nickel-boron bolt carrier group. $200 upgrade and potential reliability problems are greatly ameliorated.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:18 | 3194038 Agent P
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Please explain DI vs piston for accuracy.  Are you talking AR vs AK or are you talking DI vs. piston on the AR platform?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:40 | 3194062 TBT or not TBT
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LWRC piston driven rifles do fine on accuracy, or so I thought.  They had a designated markman AR pattern rifle with piston rather than direct impingment.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:56 | 3194527 new game
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worth mentioning; shot an ak47 underwater;no damage done;proceeded to continue shooting to dry off by heat.

plus i can own 2:1 on cost basis...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 11:49 | 3194930 xtop23
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My REPR is gas piston and extremely accurate. Doesn't need much cleaning either.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 12:36 | 3195117 Agent P
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As is my Ruger...I mean my friend's Ruger.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:47 | 3193788 AgAu_man
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Like in so many things in life:  It's often what you do with what you got, than what you got.  But this is America, I get it.  /I mean, how did those Colonists ever beat those well-armed Brits?/ sarc off.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:50 | 3193796 The Shootist
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Still, one should be prepared. I need better radio equipment.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:32 | 3193928 HoofHearted
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Hey hey hey...can't we all get along? I am not a racist in any sense. I've got an AK and an AR. Diversification is key. So you can't get your hands on any 7.62 x 39mm? Maybe you can find some .223. You should probably have a 357 or a 45 or 9mm handgun while you're at it. And something that will spit out a bunch of .22 LR just to annoy the hell out of someone and not let them get any closer. My eight year old loves spraying .22 LR with my M&P15-22.

Every gun is beautiful in it's own way. Sing it with me. 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 01:56 | 3194085 AgAu_man
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And couldn't a 'kid' (teenager) "annoy" the heck out of someone from a few hundred yards even with a .22-250?  Seems to more than "annoy" coyotes.  All bolt action mind you, but can get small critters when the Good have the Will to be Hunting.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:46 | 3193978 bjfish
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Real men use the 7.62 X 54  and the bayonet ... bitchez

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 03:04 | 3194153 Rogue Trooper
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Arhhh.... 7.62 X 54 and a Mosin Nagnat...... Simo Häyhä... Bitchez!

Perferred Iron sights... scopes ARE for pussies...

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hayha.html

Quite a legend... a nice 'n simple bolt action in the right hands!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 00:47 | 3193981 Agent P
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Both are great platforms that fire highly effective (deadly) rounds, and I for one wouldn't want to get shot with either...save the "my dick is bigger than yours" talk for another subject.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:07 | 3193647 Hindsight2020
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 <deleted for the sake of my life>

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:14 | 3193685 holdbuysell
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why Chris Hedges has sued Barack Obama, et al. over the NDAA.

The first amendment is dying.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 23:40 | 3193770 nmewn
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Maybe we should rescue the "hostage" from the MSM? ;-)

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 09:59 | 3194534 new game
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call homeland security

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