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Amazon Misses, Growth Slows, Guides Lower, P/E Goes Negative And Stock Soars

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The most cartoonish stock of all time just came out with results that can only be characterized as WTF. To wit:

  • Q4 revenue of $21.27 billion missed expectations of $22.23 billion
  • Q1 EPS of $0.21 missed expectations of $0.27;
  • The firm guided top-line lower, seeing Q1 sales of $15-$16 billion, below the estimate of $16.5 billion
  • The firm guided operating income much lower, seeing Q1 op income of ($285)-$65 Million on expectations of $261.4 MM
  • The firm said the its physical books sales had the lowest growth in 17 years
  • Total employees grew by 7,000 in the quarter and 32,200 Y/Y to a record 88,400
  • Worldwide net sales Y/Y growth was the slowest in years at 23%, down from 30% in Q3 and 34% a year ago
  • And, last and certainly least, LTM Net Income is now officially negative, or ($49) meaning as of this moment the firm with the idiotically high PE has an even more idiotic N/M PE.

... And the stock is soaring in the after hours. Thank you DE Shaw, or actually that is Mr. Bezos who should thank you for the latest AH favor where accelerated HFT buying creates the impression that the numbers were good. They weren't.

Some of the charts accompanying this farce.

Total Employees and Worldwide net sales growth:

Operating and Net Income

LTM Operating Income Margin %

Operating Income Margin % by Quarter

AMZN Free Cash Flow as defined: EBITDA - CapEx

And LTM Net Income

Which means Market Cap to Net Income, or P/E, is now negative, or as it is better known in the industry: N/M.

And now ignore reality: after all the thesis is that the more AMZN loses, the more of its competitors will supposedly go out of business, and greater AMZN's pricing power eventually.

Just not yet.


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Tue, 01/29/2013 - 18:57 | 3196665 IamtheREALmario
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Ain't managed markets glorious? I think there may still be a few people living under rocks and such who do not understand what a scam the markets are. There are the totally ignorant who do not even understand what a good company when compared to a poor company ... and then there are the people who just cannot get over the fact that stock price has no relationship to the fundamental worth of the company... and that what appears to be an inverse relationship to free market dynamics is just fraud with a story propagated through the captured media. Lies, lies and more lies.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:02 | 3196678 Catflappo
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Iin the earnings conference call, not a single analyst asked a question pertaining to financial aspects of Amazon's performance.   

That tells you everything you need to know about why the stock is in la-la-land.



Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:05 | 3196686 amadeusb4
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Now I understand why AAPL stock got clobbered. RECORD PROFITS!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:09 | 3196702 amadeusb4
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Were people placing AMZN sells and VMW sell orders were actually being executed? Then perhaps they're simply trying to buy VMW and getting AMZN shares instead? Serously, I need to exit this market.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:11 | 3196705 kill switch
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Amazon Misses, Growth Slows, Guides Lower, P/E Goes Negative And Stock Soars

Who gives a fuck!!! 70% GDP= Consumption,,,, terrific!! 30,000 drones, who cares, because Amazon did not meet.... is BS.. Syrian gas approved by Washington!!! Not news!!! Sandy Hook parent heckled  a complete lie,,,,the usual suspects,,,CNN,HUF POST,ABC....

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:15 | 3196725 Wilcat Dafoe
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Dunno what DC approved in Syria, but Syria surely is about gas pipelines....  making Europe less dependent on Russian Gas while feeding Israel.


Unless it's really about freedom.  Shit, maybe we're all just jaded, and it's really about freedom.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:14 | 3196720 Wilcat Dafoe
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Would anyone who has at least skimmed the biz headlines over the past 5 years, let alone read Matt Taibi, not suspect that, at a minimum, Goldman Sachs {and a handful of other banks and funds, etc.} are banging the table so often there's nothing like a straight shot?

Probably I'm making an oft made point - when you don't prosecute anyone, and there's so much obvious computer rigging in addition to old fashioned inside info... there's no clear linkage between relative performance and value.


What's the least corrupt area for investment?   From what little I understand of 'economics' - the price of gold should be much much higher, but it ain't, and Krugman still has his column... so should I be burying my silverware in the backyard, or buying shares in the large and evil banks?


Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:24 | 3196760 SmoothCoolSmoke
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Cue Prince: "Tonight we're gonna party like it's........."

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:30 | 3196781 SAT 800
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Income is income; they had a lot. added employees is added employees. In an environment of contraction and a dubious future; this looks good to stock speculators; it's a rational decision; markets always overshoot; but Amazon is functioning and making money and therefore there's a reason to have a position in the company.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 19:33 | 3196791 gould's fisker
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Quaint ideas like moral hazard have been repeated until forgotten--after all, if you can always get moar cash why worry about losers, and then losers can continue their losing ways; God Bezos has made a mega career of this--once he takes over all world retail outlets then he can really profit.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 20:08 | 3196923 luna_man
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Tue, 01/29/2013 - 20:55 | 3197101 gnomon
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Everybody sees "brick and mortar" stores dying everywhere.  Amazon keeps trudging along.  It is a "last man standing" investment.  And too many benniebucks are out there in circulation looking for a home when everything is overvalued, (except Gold and Silver).

Only way it makes sense to me is that it is the armageddon investment for the bathrobe brigade.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:04 | 3197139 slightlyskeptical
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One item at a time by a brown truck is a business model that cannot survive while at the same time you are charging loss leader type prices. As soon as Amazon starts charging what they need to make a profit, the mass market retailers will take all their business back and mom and pop will have a chance again.

I would also bet my house that American Funds is selling the hell out of their AMZN position starting tomorrow if they haven't already started.  I own a bunch of their funds and would be upset if they didn't. Glad to see they dumped most of their Apple, but it left this pig as #1 holding.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:40 | 3197480 Son of Loki
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Have I told anyone how pessimistic I am about these mail order companies? With postal rates skyrocketing and internet sales taxes soon (already in some states), the likes of Amazon, Ebay, JCPenny's, Sears and similar will bite the dust.




Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:51 | 3197509 Hohum
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Amazon good, Amazon bad.  It's just a retailer.  The rush to Amazon (and a few months back, Apple) just shows that the brilliant investing world would rather avoid any business that actually might be a game changer for our standard of living.  Where's the private investment in nuclear fusion?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:00 | 3200228 Non Passaran
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Fusion? Of course not. The Gubmint doesn't subsidize Amazon competitors, to Invest in Amazon is much safer :-)

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:57 | 3197529 pragmatic hobo
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It's 1999 and 2007 all over again ...

“As long as the dream is there, the stock is going to go up,” Mr. Munster said."

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:23 | 3197758 dark pools of soros
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caught from yahoo finance now...


Market Cap: 117.93B P/E (ttm): 3,099.40 EPS (ttm): 0.08



Wed, 01/30/2013 - 02:20 | 3197936 ItsDanger
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I gave up trading AMZN years ago.  The action on that stock defied all logic.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 05:52 | 3198056 GNWT
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