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Via Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

You know you’re no longer living in a free country when the government tells you what you can and cannot put in your body. Or when an unelected board of bureaucrats and corporate insiders can confiscate the assets of hardworking small business owners.

Yet these have become par for the course in the Land of the Free.

The latest bout involves a family-owned raw milk operation in Missouri that was decimated last week by the heavy hand of government, courtesy of the State Milk Board.

Of course, this isn’t even an actual government agency, but rather one of more than 200 such committees in Missouri which wield tsarist authority over their domains.

State Milk Board members include both state bureaucrats and corporate leaders from the milk industry. How convenient that a few big producers are given unelected, absolute authority to torpedo a raw milk competitor...

And so, last Friday, farm inspectors arrived to confiscate 18 tons of cheese that Morningland Dairy had produced from raw milk. They were met by a small crowd which had gathered to show support for the family… and to denounce these agents of government for carrying out an immoral act on innocent people.

It was all captured on video, including the police response.

You have to respect what these people were doing. They stood to face their enemies and peacefully demonstrate against abuse of power. They even tried to convince government agents to stop participating in the wholesale destruction of liberty.

It’s a noble thing indeed. But the uncomfortable reality is that their efforts were wasted.

The police, the bureaucrats... they are not the enemy. They are merely pawns of an entire system gone critically bad. In truth, there is no actual enemy. The enemy is an idea - a faceless government that is not embodied in a single individual or group.

Trying to ‘fight’ this enemy, this idea, is as futile as a government ‘declaring war’ on drugs or poverty. These are not enemy combatants. They’re nouns. Concepts.

As such, trying to ‘take back’ the country is a noble yet unfortunately misguided expenditure of precious resources. One would be more successful trying to train a potted plant how to juggle rather than trying to change the system.

As humans we have natural instincts to defend ourselves. Rationally, though, the best move we have is to simply refuse to play the game. That means leaving.

Our most solemn obligations are to our families, ourselves, and our chosen loved ones. Not to a society that no longer shares our values. Not to a passport. Not to a politician. Not to a piece of dirt.

Just as our forefathers did, when the walls of the social contract start closing in, you go find a new piece of dirt. Or at least have a plan for it; the time to consider your escape options isn’t while you’re packing your bags.

Ecuador could be a possibility. It’s pleasant here. The economy is growing. It has plenty of modern conveniences. It’s easy to become a resident– in some cases you can even use the funds in your IRA to qualify.

Plus it’s cost-effective. You can still live reasonably well for under $1,000/month. And real estate can be extraordinarily cheap. I’ve just seen a spacious 2,000 square foot home on 10 acres for about $100,000 dollars; they’re effectively selling the home at construction cost and throwing in the land for free.

Now, I’m not trying to convince you to move to Ecuador. But rather point out that as the steady march into tyranny continues, the best solution may be to stop playing the game altogether. You won’t be worse off for at least reviewing your options and having a plan.


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Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:46 | 3197293 petolo
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I am one of those nefarious farmerst hat sold raw milk. I had more customers than milk. Fortunately, i instinctively lknew that stealth was more prudent than reason when dealing with the bureaucrats. I believe it was Diderot who said: "a bureaucracy is a giant run by pygmies ". My apologies to the Pygmies.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:09 | 3197155 pods
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Maybe the farmers should have used the ARs that they were pointing at customers to defend their property?

Wait, they didn't FORCE anyone to buy their product?


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:43 | 3197790 Overfed
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Their lobby just doesn't have the clout.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:09 | 3197161 metastar
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As far as I know, the gun laws in Ecuador are even worse than my tyrannical home state of NY. Texas is probably the best escape at present.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:11 | 3197165 knowless
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didn't read dont care.


get the fuck off me.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:48 | 3197300 unrulian
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Knowless what's your first name...... couldn't?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:19 | 3199559 knowless
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that's the joke.


(and honesty, i don't even remember posting that)

everyone in my house is broke, so i end up having to do alot of running around trying to figure out whose gonna be late on rent, if i'm gonna have to cover for someone, wtf exactly everyones short term plans are.. the place is run down as fuck, but livable(by my standards) but finding people who are down with the situation is extremely difficult, i had to show nearly thirty people the place last month just to find 3 people who would even express cursory interest in the room opening up. this is not my responsibility in any way, but no one else is doing it, and i need a place to live.

so yeah, i end up drinking alot sometimes.. it's pretty bleak. i do love the suggestions of moving abroad, as if that's even attainable for many people.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:12 | 3197167 hawk nation
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When will we be starting the american versionof the neurenberg trials for all the government workers that we just following orders

Its tough to follow the right path when you loose your moral compass

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:12 | 3197168 Hannibal
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Messge from the Ministry of Truth:

Everything your hear and read from the msm is 100% true. Everything is OK! Go shopping, do not waste your time reading or thinking. Please continue your shopping and go back to your jobs, if you do not have a job you are a worthless human being, you're not divine beings, what you are is consumers.

Consume, consume and consume until we have no planet left. Do not smile or be happy, be scared, be miserable and continue to buy stuff you don't need to support the economy. We need more Govt control in our lives, telling us what to do and what to thnk. You were born to shop and you will die to shop. Please remain as miserable as you can.

Everything is OK!



Wed, 01/30/2013 - 01:35 | 3197893 MurderNeverWasLove
Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:12 | 3197177 steve from virginia
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Enough with Simon Blank or whatever his name is ... bring back Robotrader.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:18 | 3197195 francis_sawyer
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BUY LuluLemon!!!


There... are you satiated?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 01:23 | 3197876 Tijuana Donkey Show
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YES! And MBD, who has been sucking lately. He's getting more up votes than down, and it's breaking my heart!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:13 | 3197180 Gold Dog
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Who cut the cheese?


Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:24 | 3197220 Big Slick
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Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:53 | 3197311 IridiumRebel
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Simon Black Did

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:17 | 3197188 rsnoble
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So how do you all like the new street corner radiation machines in NYC that shoot rays at everyone walking by looking for guns?

So let's see..........they are pulling it off in one of the worlds largest cities and somehow your little hodunk redneck town with 500 people can't be put under control?

We're fucked.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 01:24 | 3197877 Tijuana Donkey Show
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No one cares about my town......

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:22 | 3197189 Gold Dog
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Sorry for the down...fat finger.

EDIT- You can change your vote!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:18 | 3197192 espirit
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I hear the milk in Ecuador isn't pasturized either.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:19 | 3197204 TrustWho
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As a boy, we sold raw milk, cream and butter until late 60's when USDA passed regulation to protect the ignorant masses. America was about competition and free choice. Raw milk products contain a natural environment that must be handled correctly. In the 60's, this was not a problem until the State decided the citizens were too stupid.


What is really interesting, science has an hypothesis that the protective Moms have created such a steril environment, the human auto-immune system has such little stimulation that this sytem starts attacking itself; thus asthma, lupus and other autoimmune diseases are rising. Life is funny.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:07 | 3197372 Northern Lights
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YES, I agree whole heartedly.

Back when I was in grade school, 60% of my classmates brought to school a peanut-butter sandwich in some form or another.

If you were to tell me then that peanut butter would be banned in schools today, or those who eat it would be "segregated" from the rest, I'd have said you were nuts!!!!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 03:25 | 3197986 dogbreath
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Pb n J  +1

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:25 | 3197222 Bagbalm
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The cops are the governments fingers. Cut them off and it can do nothing.


Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:28 | 3197233 Ranger4564
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Sorry, they are the enemy as soon as they choose to support / enforce policies.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:44 | 3197240 HoaX
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Pantera: Vulgar Display of Power

Listen to this and grow some fuckin balls.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:31 | 3197241 Dr. Engali
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Run away? That's your solution Simon ? Our founding fathers didn't run away... They grabbed ther 1776 personal defense weapons and kicked the fuckers out!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:08 | 3197726 Shell Game
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+1  Our muskets look a bit different but the end result, though long in coming, will be the same.


Ense et aratro!


Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:40 | 3197272 mr. mirbach
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Good Idea Simon - Let's all go invade some sparsely inhabited chunck of the planet where we could stake out land for free, not pay any taxes, fuck up the environment with heavy industry and instantly have a currency accepted by the global banking cartel. Sounds smart to me.


With around 100 million US civilian men (just men, not men and women) compared to maybe 3 million military, para-military and LEO's in America, it could be speculated that the civilians could easily fix the growing tyranny. 


"It is easier to resist at the beginning than at the end" Leonardo Da Vinci.



Tue, 01/29/2013 - 21:40 | 3197277 donethat
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What about lead paint? Years ago, it was banned because 'kids' were eating it. Forget their parents weren't keeping an eye on them.


Now that everyone is one foodstamps, think they will lift the ban?


Meanwhile, I have to repaint the trim on my home every few years as a result.


I could go on and on.



Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:01 | 3197346 egoist
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Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:12 | 3197582 NuckingFuts
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as a fellow resident of the shoe me state.  (a transplant from more reasonable cliimes)  I must say you are correct.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:03 | 3197347 Notarocketscientist
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Quit your belly aching - if you are pissed off then do something about it - typing onto ZH ain't gonna change fuck all

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:02 | 3197348 JohnGaltsChild
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Seems from the posts that there are still enough of us bitter clingers around to make a difference without jumping ship.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:05 | 3197358 Cult_of_Reason
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Dude, move to another state, twenty-eight U.S. states do not prohibit sales of raw milk.



Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:29 | 3197445 Jugdish
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Ya Farmer move to another state, there are 28 other states. Take your farm and move it to the other 28 states. Shut the hell up you stupid whiny liberal. You are telling this man to take his whole livelihood and move it cause there are 28 other states? You are a fucking idiot. It's his home. cult of idiot

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:44 | 3197494 Jugdish
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And another thing to the three cold pieces of shit that up voted you, to be clear, when the brown shirts come onto property that's been in your family for decades or more, shuts dow your means for survival and sustenance, and confiscates your merchandise - just pack your shit and move to another state guys. Just pack it up, all of it and move to the other 28 states. Come on guys just move. Pack your stuff in a suitcase and move. The other states are waiting.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:14 | 3197740 moondog
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This farm is in Missouri where that map states that farm sales are legal.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 10:12 | 3198473 TSA gropee
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I think you missed the point. Just a guess...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:09 | 3197375 Unstable Condition
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Over my dead fucking body. Sorry, running away is not in my blood, I will go down fighting.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:18 | 3197403 Rusty Shorts
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... so, how many thousands of years have we been making Cheese? jeeesshhh

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:24 | 3197430 DaveA
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Fact is, people are racist, and economic collapse doesn't make them any less racist, quite the opposite. So if you don't look and talk like your neighbors, it's time to move.

"Oh, but everyone in Ecuador is so nice to me!!" (a) they want to sell you something, (b) you don't hear what they say behind your back, and (c) you won't notice the ones who really hate gringos because they never talk to you.

These third-world countries seem very libertarian if you only go there to play on the beach, smoke pot, and enjoy your 12-year-old concubine. But if you try to get a business going, every government parasite will demand a piece of it.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:05 | 3197550 MrPalladium
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You are right. The Equadorans will tolerate a few rich whites as curiousities. But more than a million in that land and the group confict dynamic will take hold big time. The Equadorans will not want strange looking people with strange accents changing their culture. Begin agitating for representation and political power and there will be hell to pay fast. And when the elite collapses the economy the starving hordes will take their revenge for the injustice of irrident Gringos have so much and living in such comfort.

Black's advice only makes sense if you have the resources to continue running at the first hint of trouble.

Not exactly the kind of macho life style the chicks will admire.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:05 | 3197557 Totentänzerlied
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"But if you try to get a business going, every government parasite will demand a piece of it."

Just how is that any different from anywhere else? They call it "bribes", we call it "taxes", "fees", and "charges".

"So if you don't look and talk like your neighbors, it's time to move"

History doesn't work that way.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 22:33 | 3197465 sansnobel
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The fact that they will not answer the question about disarming the citizens shows that they are a bunch of fucking government stooges.  They deserve a shotgun blast to the face if they ever try.......

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:01 | 3197538 Totentänzerlied
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"The police, the bureaucrats... they are not the enemy. They are merely pawns"

Wrong. Every mentally competent adult is responsible for his/her behavior. The Nuremberg Defense doesn't fly here.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:03 | 3197549 Manipuflation
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Simon always makes it sound so easy.  I guess this is as good a thread to finish the narrative I started earlier in January about establishing duel citizenship for my children.  Nothing is as easy as Simon makes this seem.  Brief refresh:  I am a US citizen married to a Russian National with our two children born in the US.  By Russian law, those children born to Russian nationals can obtain double citizenship with the proper paperwork et al.

On Jan 18, the Russian Consulate came to Minneapolis traveling out of Seattle.  The Russian Consulate rarely does this and only gives two weeks notice of doing so.  I had to be there to sign whatever documents.  This event occurred at a US Bank near Ridgedale Mall in Minnetonka.  An odd place for the Russian Consulate to appear do you not think?  US Bank?  Why there?

We arrived at the US Bank early in the morning only to find hundreds of Russian nationals well ahead of us.  Some Russians had camped out over night to get the best place in line.  It was like a black friday event at a Wal-mart.  The manager of the US Bank was not happy as US Bank corporate must have forgetten to inform the manager of what exactly was going on.  The American US Bank manager immediately tried to engage the loitering Russians with "Get the hell out of my parking lot!".  Not exactly a wise tactic with hundreds of Russians vs a bank manager, a loan officer and few young tellers.  What an idiot.  I backed away.

Meanwhile, my wife had registered with the .RU number 205 on the handwritten list that they were creating.  Not a computer in sight, not that this matters.  Just odd.  I quickly determined that I was the only American there save for my children.(there were few children there)  It was so packed with adult Russians that I felt like I was on a St. Petersburg metro line again.  I started taking pictures of the whole scene with my smarter than I am phone.  .RU did not much care for the fact that I was documenting what I saw.  Most statists do not like such documentation.

After a few hours, we were able to extrapolate the time between interviews.  Approximately 6 per hour.  So I offered to Mrs. M to go have lunch and then we would come back.  After lunch, I decided to take my wife to a Russian/Ukrainain to brighten her spirits a little but I didn't tell her where I was going.  I had hatched a fight club worthy plan in my head by that time.  Out of nowhere, my wife asked to be taken to the store I was already taking her to and then announced that she would attempt to bribe the .RU consulate.  In Russia, cash bribes are how you get "business" done, much the same as here in the US in Washington DC.  My wife and I each made our separate purchases.

As we returned that afternoon, we saw an even larger amount of Russians in the parking lots and the boulevard and again the bank manager was chasing the Russians.  Not being much impressed by her observations, my eight year old daughter was hanging pretty close to Dad.  As anyone could imagine, this was a volatile situation.  My wife went inside to check the status of progress and to make the bribe attempt.  Rus-on-Rus.  Cigarette smokers almost always have a different perspective simply because they are always outside. 
So what was my plan in case the cash bribe didn't work?  I had purchased six liters of Russian Standard vodka.  A full unopened case of Russian go-juice.  

I called my brother to explain my plan but he advised against it.  As I was talking to my bro, I saw a little old Russian woman come out of US Bank crying.  I had to let him go and investigate the situation.  I found my wife and she said that there was no hope of cash bribe and that we should just go home because they had only made it to number 45 on the list.  I offered to upstage the Russian Consulate and offer the vodka to the Russian males there in order to get a fight going.  Let them all have a drink and have a say.  I was told to stand down by the Mr.s M. 

Loosely translated, the attempt by my wife, who is a cool customer, to bribe the .RU consular officials was this:  "We have more money than we know what to do with and we do not need yours."

I really didn't need to end up on the 10 o'clock news so I backed off.  I really wanted at them but I realized that it would not likely help matters much.  Russia is not my country and where the Russian Consulate goes is effectively Russia.  They are untouchable save by their own.

As for the crying little old lady, it turns out that many 1990's Russian expats brought their parents here after some time.  The soviet way provided for a pension for these Russian elderly, even in America, as these eldsters are not eligible for our insolvent Social Security.  Not anymore.  The Russian State(ists) changed the law for Russian expats and they are being denied their pensions because they left the motherland.

I for one, wish that Simon Black would include some of these types of events in his assertions.  I was never planning on leaving the US but Simon Black leaves out a hell of a lot of details about the countries he suggests we should all move to.

I am staying here.  Always was.    

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:13 | 3197590 samsara
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Forget what the F simon suggestions were, 

That's NOT the point of the article.

The Point is  Food Sovereignty

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:59 | 3197705 Manipuflation
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I agree with you both T and S.  It really invokes some really deep feelings in people though...this dealing with, and believing in, the state and that your children are involved...  I say to the world's states, all of them uni-punctually, please fast forward to fuck off status with me.  The preponderance of central banks notwithstanding.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:23 | 3197615 Totentänzerlied
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Nation-states are for the little people. You can buy your way into basically any country "legally", but it's gonna run you no less than a few hundred thousand USD at the very least. There are other ways, but they're not "easy" in any sense of the word. The whole purpose of this system is to keep people in their place - where they came from. Why should the state care? Populist pandering (appeasing the racists/nationalists) and zero-sum neo-liberal economics of the state-capitalist welfare-state (i.e. every citizen is a cost/liability until they prove otherwise - by amassing lots of taxable wealth).

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:10 | 3197571 samsara
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A really good interview (print) with Joel Salatin

The Food Police State



Here's a neat one on how towns people basically went to the board and said FU.  

Here’s a Way to Eliminate the Regulators and Lawyers, and Build Community At the Same Time: Organize and Declare “Food Sovereignty,” Like Sedgwick, Maine

In March 2011 the citizens of Sedgwick, Maine passed the first Local Food and Community Self-Governance Ordinance.  The ordinance states in part that “producers and processors of local foods are exempt from licensure and inspection when the producer is selling directly to a consumer intending to use the product for home consumption, or if the foods are sold at a community social event. Citizens have the right to produce, process, purchase and consume local foods of their choosing, and it shall be unlawful for any law or regulation adopted by the state or federal government to interfere with these rights.”  Since then similar local food ordinances have been adopted by other towns in Maine, California, Vermont, and Massachussetts.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:35 | 3197647 JR
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“My Country ‘tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died! Land of the Pilgrim’s pride! From every mountain side, let freedom ring!”

--(written1831 by Samuel Francis Smith, serving as one of the de facto national anthems of the United States before adoption of The Star-Spangled Banner as the official anthem in 1931)

Worthless, Money-Sucking TSA | AFP

Karen Kaplan, the assistant editor of the science journal  Nature, recently wrote a column for The Day magazine in which she described being violated by a TSA security agent at Norfolk International Airport on Nov. 25. “The search involved highly invasive groping and probing of my private areas,” wrote Mrs. Kaplan. “As a white American female over 40, a law-abiding citizen with nary so much as a traffic violation in my history, and an editor of an eminent international science journal, I hardly fit the profile of a terrorist… The TSA, a worthless and money-sucking artifact of the George W. Bush administration, must be disbanded, or at least stripped of the power it now holds to commit such assaults.”

This onrush of tyranny threatens all Americans; these attacks on our civil liberties must be stopped if America is to remain a free society.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:36 | 3197648 working class dog
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There was a connecticutt court case awhile back where Walmart or Lowes  or Home Depot attempted to coopt the local gubbamant, around the Greenwich area to take a 70 year old widows house to put up a strip mall. The judge threw it out.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 05:14 | 3198038 hidingfromhelis
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Kelo v. City of New London (also Connecticuit) didn't have such a happy ending, and that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:37 | 3197657 rustymason
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If we had a king, then we could cut off his head. Hmmmmmmm, wait a minute ...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:42 | 3197662 rustymason
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Most people still fly. Most people pay for total filth on TV and listen to disgusting raunch on the radio. 90%+ still send their children to the government school institutions, despite complaining about them commie indoctrination factories.

We have the government we have because we deserve it.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 02:54 | 3197961 pherron2
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well bud, you'd be amazed how many of us are homeschooling here in my neck o the woods (Gulfcoast Mississippi). Folks are getting tired of this shit.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:44 | 3197670 ultraticum
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Calling it your job old hoss, sure don't make it right!  Sorry Simon - I don't agree that we are not allowed to blame the low level police enforcers.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:45 | 3197672 CoolBeans
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What sort of country is it when banksters can commit fraud on hundreds of levels and are too big to jail but put a little raw milk in a glass and get crucified?

Give me a break.

Hey gubbermint:  Quit telling us what to eat, drink, etc., etc.  It is none of your damn biz if I want to have some raw cream in my coffee....I won't use your gubbermint doctors and big pharma so just butt the Hell out!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:55 | 3197697 joego1
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my passport is still good. Started a farmers market where I live. Got the best freedom. grow my own. Got my own water,land, trees peace!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:01 | 3197709 tony bonn
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"The police, the bureaucrats... they are not the enemy. They are merely pawns of an entire system gone critically bad. In truth, there is no actual enemy. The enemy is an idea - a faceless government that is not embodied in a single individual or group."

usually you have good things to say, but this paragraph is the most imbecilic moronic mountain of goat shit i have heard this weeek - you could be a sock puppet for the leaders of the new world order....the police are the enemy as are bureaucrats and politicians....

but let's give names to their paymasters - many of whom are dead, but their biological and philosophical heirs carry on - nelson rockefeller (ordered murder of jfk), averell harriman ( jfk murder and vietnam), dean rusk, mcgeorge bundy, prescott bush (jfk murder), edward lansdale (jfk murder), curtis lemay (jfk murder), wirth walker iii and his wife (9/11), george bush sr (jfk murder), lyndon johnson (jfk murder), koch brothers, ponchitta pierce, barack obama, tim geithner, the clintons, and many more faceless oligarchs who are on the trilateral commission, bohemian grove, bildeberger, and a host of other secret (conspircacy) organizations which are destroying national sovereignty devil worshipping whore will own it all for a short period of time.....all of these people are card carrying nazis.....naziism was not a product of germany or hitler - it was a product of wall street plutocrats - including henry ford - and academic elite - let's not forget henry luce (not an academic)...naziism was triumphant in world war 2 and is the ruling philosophy of this nation's seen and unseen rulers....

there are some good people on this site who say truthy things, but almost all of them are wooly headed naive children facing monsters whom they know not.....and calling the enemy a faceless idea is the most revolting thing i have heard today.....until you know your enemy, you are dead meat.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:04 | 3197715 Gyoza Mimi
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Yes, government mandating seat-belts is an intrusion on my freedoms. Government limiting my freedom to dump pollutants into the river is a violation of my liberties. Government-mandated fire code is a gross violation of my constitutional rights - it is my God-given right to shoot Chinese-made pyrotechnics in a night-club of 5,000 capacity with no windows and a single exit locked from outside. Government-imposed restrictions on sales of BSE meat is an intrusion on my right to eat what I want.


Morons united, let's jump up and start screaming about tyranny in the US because of the restrictions such as above and such as one that the movie clip is parading.

Simon Black, btw, is the same guy who suggests relocating to places like Brazil, Belize and Venezuela (less tyranny and greater personal safety) or investing in Russia (everyone knows, your investments are in jeopardy in the US, but in Russia they are perfectly secure) or watching the GDP of Maldives exploding due to the tremendous growth potential.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:22 | 3197756 overmedicatedun...
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.gov troll alert..gyoza fascism has it's own smell and you need a bath big time

let's jump up and start screaming about tyranny in the US because of the restrictions such as above and such as one that the movie clip is parading.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:08 | 3197722 merizobeach
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"The police, the bureaucrats... they are not the enemy. They are merely pawns"


This is existential horseshit of the most putrid kind.  Yeah, they're pawns--working as your enemy, as you are a free person.  Every cop, soldier, bureaucrat, taxpayer, and establishment voter is an enemy of humanity and freedom.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:11 | 3197729 alfbell
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no matter how bad the usa may be or gets... there ain't no better place to live.

plus... as long as you are connected to assets and wealth, you can't escape the control mechanisms no matter what country you flee to.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 03:46 | 3198002 etresoi
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I can not write a response to this fool, except for saying thanks for the laugh.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 03:52 | 3198006 akak
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no matter how bad the usa may be or gets... there ain't no better place to live.

That's right --- because my caged cesspool is better than your caged cesspool, no matter how unfree and impoverished our cesspools become.  All that matters is that mine is (arguably) slightly better than yours.

It's because the USA is exceptional --- we're #1!
Land of the Free and Home of the Brave!


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:11 | 3197730 moondog
Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:18 | 3197744 alfbell
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forgot to say...

i've read a lot of articles and listened to a lot of interviews by researchers in search for the optimal country to expatriate from the usa to. some of them have spent up to 2 years traveling and living in countries all over the planet to sincerely check it out (eg. erik townsend). you've got guys with bias and willing to take chances and put up with shit (eg. doug casey and argentina). but the guys who don't seem to have any bias or special agendas and have done earnest and responsible research to cover all the factors necessary for a quality life have all reached the same conclusion... there ain't no better place to live than the usa.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:28 | 3197769 Herkimer Jerkimer
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I know these back to country types like their raw milk, but didn't we invent pasteurization for a reason?



Wed, 01/30/2013 - 03:59 | 3198011 akak
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Yes --- primarily, to raise the bar for legal entry into the milk market, thereby shutting out of the market the many small, independent former and potential milk producers who could not afford the cost of the expensive equipment necessary for pasteurization, on the pretext of "improved sanitation" of course.

EVERY legal restriction, EVERY regulatory burden on business, EVERY attempt to shut out competition to favored or well-connected big businesses, EVERY intrusion into our privacy and our freedom, can and has been rationalized by self-serving half-truths and outright lies by government.  When will all the naive children who masquerade as adults and believe in the wise, paternalistic, all-knowing, all-seeing, all-caring Santa Claus state wake up to that fact?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 08:47 | 3198190 SmallerGovNow2
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Well said...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 00:37 | 3197779 alfbell
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it's government oppression, as people should be able to eat and drink whatever they choose, so down with them.

but... dairy and grains are not for human consumption anyway.

man has been a hunter/gather most of his existence on this planet. his normal food is meat, vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds and herbs. dairy and grains were only introduced (erroneously) after the agrarian age. then of course with the industrial age came processed foods laden with chemicals. these departures from normal food is the key reason as to why we have all the diseases and obesity that exists in our modern civilization.

cow's milk is for baby calves. not human beings. duh.

switch to the paleo diet (hunter/gather diet) and you'll be much more healthier and live longer.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 01:11 | 3197848 Tijuana Donkey Show
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I'm on this fight now. The city told me I can't keep my 6 bird flock in the city after 2 years. I spoke to a councilman, and he told me about how the city changed the ordinance after a argument with a 62 year old lady with cancer about her 5 birds. What did the city do? They went out and passed a law against her while she was in the hospital, after having a FUCKING STROKE. They did her so bad that the state, which only moves when it feels it can fuck something for money, came in and hit the city with a civil rights violation! None of this stops until the guys don't leave with the cheese or chickens. 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 01:17 | 3197859 aka Gil
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I agree with Mr. Black that changing the existing system, which imo is FUBAR, is a preposterous notion. I somewhat disagree with his supposition that taking back the country is a misguided use of resources. The efficient (and proper?) use of energy and resources might be to allow the entire ball of madness to collapse under its own weight (of fraud, debt and other dark matter), after which our individual lives could be recaimed as our own without permission from a central authority. As to finding a new piece of dirt on this planet, good luck to all the exploitive outsiders and their emotionally feeble and insecure victims down in Ecuadoria. I'm perfectly comfortable with my odds of arriving safely on the other side of the black hole right here in the middle-of-nowhere USA, thank you very much.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 01:31 | 3197887 toomanyfakecons...
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Banana Republic USA!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 01:49 | 3197917 q99x2
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Where's the Magnificant 7 when you need them.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 02:24 | 3197942 aleph0
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Straight out of Atlas Shrugged.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 02:32 | 3197946 Wanton1
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"The enemy is an idea - a faceless government that is not embodied in a single individual or group."



Wed, 01/30/2013 - 02:55 | 3197965 Fred C Dobbs
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I couldn't finish watching it. 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 03:10 | 3197978 Peter Pan
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All this is in stark contrast to the treatment of the pharmaceutical companies. When they get caught marketing a dud product they are eventually forced to withdraw the product but the fine is far less than the profit they have made in the meantime.

Clearly what is missing in cases such as this one, is an independent process that can be availed of by the milk producer.

One hwoever cannot discount the possibility that there are perhaps some real concerns about raw milk products although the owners seem to be still alive despite consuming their product.

Nicely mannered sheriff although the interviewer is clearly cheesed off.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 03:29 | 3197980 slackrabbit
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"they are not the enemy. They are merely pawns "


Clearly you haven't met some of the pawns, nor watched the video dude.

This guy only cares about a pay check, nothing else!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 08:29 | 3198172 TNTARG
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That's the very starting point. When people became (looooooong ago) to sell themselves, it was done. Slavery went obsolete and the very notion of freedom was lost. The rulers just have to buy. Even mercenaries to fight their wars so they can make further money and accumulate further power to buy further wills to achieve whatever they want.

Exiting this status it's very simple: stop being for sell. Stop having fear. Acting moral.

When we sell ourselves we're giving up our and others free will. Our and others freedom and liberty.

That undermines self esteem and make people feel miserable. So we need any kind of shit we can use in our quest for feeling ourselves less miserables. Then we work (for them) to death for buying (from them) all that shit. In the process we're working to allow them keeping control over us and taking control on others.

We work like Trojans, we struggle, we die for the guys that bought our will in the first place.

We work, we struggle, we die for our own slavery. Worlwide.

It's up to us.



Wed, 01/30/2013 - 03:15 | 3197981 Notarocketscientist
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Ya and GET FUCKED Gov't!!!

I am hereby refusing to wear a seat belt.  And I refuse to drive at any speed lower than 100mph.

And I will carry a machine guy the next time I go to the mall - 'just in case ' you know?

Oh and I am gonna keep on selling custard pies at the fair that contain just a hint of arsenic.

Ya FUCK YOU GOVT!!  We don't need you ya hear?


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 03:28 | 3197987 capitallosses
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In case you didn't get the memo, it's end game folks.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 09:25 | 3198260 Kingkongballs827
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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 04:29 | 3198026 Peter Pan
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Has anyone seen a sheriff taking possession of harmful cigarettes from a tobacco factory?

Thought so....

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 05:50 | 3198050 GNWT
Wed, 01/30/2013 - 06:47 | 3198082 smacker
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Even though the police officers were enforcing a corporatist-politically inspired court order and simply "following orders" (not an acceptable excuse IMO), they did at least carry out their duties with reasonable calmness and respect.


It's unlikely that things would have happened like that in the UK. The police would have arrived at some unearthly hour of the morning and resembled a gang of jackboot thugs. Anybody who attempted to film them or otherwise engage them would have been man-handled, probably arrested and their film equipment forcefully confiscated (for the purpose of removing the memcard evidence).

A subsequent formal complaint by those aggressed about police behaviour may have resulted in an IPCC (Independent Police Complaints Commission) investigation. The IPCC are many things but independent is not one of them. The investigation would have taken very many months to reach a conclusion (aka: get the issue off the headlines) during which period no police officer would agree to make any public comment ("it would be inappropriate for me to comment while an investigation is going on"). The final report would not recommend any police officer is disciplined or prosecuted for criminal behaviour.

The IPCC investigation would have cost large sums of taxpayers money. The nation would declare "a whitewash" and move on.

The rare occasions when legal action has been taken against criminal police behaviour are when film evidence has been taken without them being aware, as in the case of the police assault on one Mr Tomlinson which caused his death. It was all filmed by several TV News cameras and private people and the police involved could not deny their actions. The IPCC could not avoid recommending action against the police officer, who it turned out had a track record of thuggery.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 06:48 | 3198084 shutupnsing
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I thoroughly disagree...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 06:54 | 3198087 shutupnsing
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...because, in dealing with the Evil that is centralizing power there simply is nowhere to run...not even Equador! That would be us kicking the can! And Mars is not an option. We stand in the place that we live! There are fates far worse than death my friends...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 09:33 | 3198278 My Days Are Get...
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I have no issue with the subject matter of the article.  But, I do have one with you.

I will be in South America for one month, beginning in February.  When overseas, you lose your grip on the day-to-day events in the USA and mood and thinking of the people who live here.

Simply stated, you can not vicariously experience real life in the US from afar, no matter how many contacts or emails you receive.  You thinking is molded by the people who surround you as well as your immediate surroundings.

Simon, either get a real job and stop blogging.  Or, come back to the US as a permanent citzen and resident and report on stuff from the the battlefield.

You have no credibility with me.  And, I have the same problem with Jim Willie and Doug Casey.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 09:40 | 3198297 GoingLoonie
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"The police, the bureaucrats... they are not the enemy. They are merely pawns of an entire system gone critically bad."

You are wrong.  When these "bureaucrats", refuse to act in the best interest of the people or municipality they serve, it is usually because they are too lazy to actually do their job.  Then, they lie to cover-up their actions, or inaction as the case may be.  They are the enemy.  And they should be subject to the law of the land.  A good example is if the local bureaucrat is aware that hydrogen sulfide (H2S) from a local fracking or sewage operation is poisoning someone, they have an obligation to put an end to it.  Even if that entails warning or moving the people.  Instead, they are usually quiet, and let it pass because it does not effect them personally.  Often, these "bureaucrats" should in fact be prosecuted for attempted manslaughter, but instead they are protected by the wealthy perpetrators as they claim ignorance.  This is nothing but pure evil at it's worst, as lives are destroyed and not a finger is lifted.

Regretfully, this has become the norm in the United States.  Like the man in the movie "Avatar" when he is told that there are people "down there."  He responds by pushing up the power saying, "They will get out of the way."


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 10:31 | 3198554 smacker
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I'm sure there are crats who act in the way you describe. But I believe that most actions/inactions by these crats are driven by their superiors who themselves are keen to stick closely to the *official* party line, in many cases issued by political elites.

Perhaps the best example of this in the US is a complete failure to  criminally prosecute a single bankster and others in the financial scandals that continue to this day. Did I mention Libor rigging?

That said, I also don't believe that "I was only doing my job" or "I was only following orders" should be an acceptable defence by these crats. That defence was not allowed to the Nazis, why should it be given to our modern day fascists?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 09:50 | 3198363 El
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I had this discussion elsewhere, having posted the video in response to what I felt was government overreach. Further discussion and research revealed that some of Morningland's cheese tested positive for Listeria. Listeria will kill you. I don't know enough to have an informed discussion about this particular case, but my initial, emotional reaction was the same as Simon Black's.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 10:42 | 3198569 EcuadorExPatriot
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A 2,000 square foot house should cost between $50,000 and $90,00. Simon is getting gringo-priced.

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