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Hedging The Great Unwind - Second Highest Treasury Put Volume On Record Hits The Tape

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In early June 2007, Treasury futures saw their largest-ever put volume traded (821,978 contracts) and within a few days, Treasury yields had peaked at 5.32% and never looked back. Yesterday, according to CME data, Treasury futures put volume hit 758,020 contracts (second only to that 2007 high) as 74% of the entire options trading volume was in puts (and 88% of 5Y futures options were puts!). With the FOMC tomorrow and everyone seemingly convinced that the 'great rotation' is in place, it would appear the crowded trade is being bearish bonds.

 

 

Is the world expecting a 'hint' at relative tightening from Bernanke tomorrow? and what will that do to equity prices?

 

(h/t Brad Wishak of NewEdge)

 


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Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment whatsinaname
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The Dow has to hit 14000 before any real action (or reaction) occurs.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:46 | Link to Comment SmoothCoolSmoke
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That should be about 2 pm.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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i feel like the pig on the geico Commercial, Weeeeeeeeeee, we, we, we, weeeeeeeee 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 17:05 | Link to Comment darteaus
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After touching you all last night, I'd have to agree.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment bonzo112358
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You're probably right.  I didn't realize how close we were too the 14k mark.  Buying more vxx call spreads.  I still haven't learned my lesson on going against the fed.  If you want to make money just do the opposite of what I'm doing.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment SeverinSlade
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Fighting the Fed isn't a losing battle.  But it certainly is a lengthy war; and lengthy wars can be expensive. 

But that's the whole point of current Fed policies though.  Doing the right thing doesn't generate the returns they should.  The Fed has, in effect, made the correct moves far too expensive.

This strategy will work until it doesn't.  You can be like the CNBS lemmings and just keep BTMFD each and every time.  But one day you will be the one left holding the grenade as it explodes.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Karlus
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I agree. The easiest way to "fight the Fed" is with PM positions. That said, it does look like a top, but we will bust it because if you print Dow has to rise.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:34 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Exactly right - get out of their fake money as much as possible.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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You are right and wrong.  It absolutely should be a top, but with all this liquidity sloshing around it has to go somewhere.  Things just aren't fucked up enough yet for the market to tank.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment EmmittFitzhume
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Don't fight the Fed. Just stand back and watch it destroy itself.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment thismarketisrigged
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2 PM?  Prob sooner with these crooks, lol. i actually called 14,000 yesterday in a post in another thread, sure enough looks like ill be right,

 

bunch of crooks these bankers are

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment SeverinSlade
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All of these signals that generally coincide with a market top...I don't know about everyone else, but it sure feels similar to late 2007...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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It's felt like 2007 for 5 years.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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the day rates ever actually ratchet up is the day you better head to your lakehouse after you wipe out the grocery store. until then the game goes on.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment cxl9
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Precisely so. If interest rates ever normalize, the whole system comes apart. They're not going anywhere.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Groundhog Day
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in a currency war the absolute last thing you do is raise interest rates as that sends the currency higher.  Ask yourself if this is even remotely possible...you know the answer.  the next time rate actually go up it will be because the central banks have lost control, until then be long bonds and hedge with gold and silver

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Ham-bone
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Currently $8+T in 3yr and less Treasury debt...yielding .4% to .04%...any move back toward '07's 5% yields on this debt (of which Fed owns none after its Op Twist) and POW, to the MOON

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:45 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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bonds will tank tomorrow.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Bullshit.  The Fed has a floor under everything.  There is no "market" for true price discovery anymore.  Unless you really believe those yields reflect a true cost for capital.

Personally I think it would be great and would certainly make the budget/debt ceiling debate more interesting.  Tell us, how much interest are taxpayers giving to the Fed right now?  What would that number be if rates went above 3%?

Think about it, rates will never go up.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Water Is Wet
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+1.  Anyone who reads in "hints" of tightening in tomorrow's language needs a lobotomy.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Dealers simply have no incentive to help their customers come clean, of course they don't want to kill them either, at least not until the addict's children are also hooked on debt as well.

What's up with student loans again?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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And for those that wonder how the Fed can manage this let's not forget that the zombie bailed out banks have an obligation to grovel to their master printer for free money and abide his wishes. 

 

Ben's zombie army will buy bonds as if they were brains for eating.  "Moarrrr....bonds!"

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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There will be hints of tightening, that is 100% certain. It's going to be only MOPE though. Fed must hint at tightening to cap gold price. Then don't tighten, but hint again. Rinse. Repeat.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:07 | Link to Comment garypaul
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That's exactly what the Bank of Canada has been doing re:mortage rates!

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment SeverinSlade
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I'd also add that when pretty much 100% of investors finally begin thinking that way: that the Fed will rescue any and all markets...Is right around the time the Fed will have officially lost all control.

The fact that more and more people are giving up and just going long is definitely concerning IMHO.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Urban Roman
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... except Au and Ag. There's no floor under them, and they're not backed by anything. 

Somebodyorother said that in CNBS the other day. 

still waiting for that crash to 0

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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I saw that awesome segment too. Talking head blaming gold for not being backed by anything (like by US dollars?). At some point, they're going to argue that cars should push the engines.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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It was this idiot that said "gold isn't backed by anything".  LOL.

http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=94051052ECB937B813C37910C72A9CD7

 Original clip starts at 13:50

 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:20 | Link to Comment Frank N. Beans
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gold is not backed by anything except human history

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:41 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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"backing" is irrelevant, it is all about counterparty risk.  Gold has been a safe store of value for 6000+ years. Why?  Because an ounce is an ounce is an ounce.  the metal remains rather inert to this day and unlike a paper promise it won't fuck you over, hence, no counterparty risk.  Seem like the world needs another lesson in risk and value.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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With a name like "lawsofphysics" you seem to have little respect for Sir Newton.  Or the basic concept of what goes up....

Are you really suggesting Ben Bond is invincible? At some point soon rates will rise.

What could Ben possibly say or do to jam rates lower and bonds higher? He has pretty much done all he can... He will of course continue this and perhaps increase it but when last QE forever was upped to $85 Bill TSY sold off 2% almost.

What do you think will happen?

 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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a mini correction should do it. a nice european crisis sparked up. there are plenty of tricks in the playbook.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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I agree with your angle Fonz.

I was just stating that the FED cant do much more other than "stabilise" TSY. The laws of physics will prevail and the US gov will go bankrupt. Ben is powerless to this.

I say any anouncement will spark a sell off. Only breifly however as things will remain "orderly" for now. DX also going down.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I hear you man. smoke and mirros. 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Karlus
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They just print. There is no limit to the number of zeros. Even if there is, we are not near it yet. I dont see wheelbarrows yet...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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What happens to banks if Ben raises rates tomorrow?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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The laws of physics have little to do with paper promises, paper valuations, and manipulated markets.

I didn't junk you and will only ask if you really believe all the "book values" for the underlying collateral behind all those bank "assets"?

I certainly don't, nor do I believe that the true cost for capital is 1.98 % (using the ten year as a reference).

Ah, if only I could use the same accounting rules that the big banks do, or control the market (i.e. housing) by intentionally removing inventory to push prices higher.

Nothing changes until the supply lines break.  As for when that happens, just track the prices you actually pay and start believing your own lying eyes.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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Calm down Sir.

I am just stating that Ben is only the King of paper untill he isnt. and that that time is nearing.

We are on the same side comrade

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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ZH just put up the 5-year results.  The Fed/PDs are the only buyers, period.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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So. So what?

Its ridiculous to say they will tighten and its equally as ridiculous to suggest rates will never go up.

I say they lose control soon and would rather short these fuckers on a bounce.

Lows/highs are in

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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So make that bet.  Personally, I won't and I am betting we stay range bound until you see some real protectionist policies and war.  Again, history is very clear on this.

Either way, it's still a paper promise to pay, good luck collecting on that should they lose control.  

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:18 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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You know the bold text doesn’t make your comments more effective.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:29 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Yes, but it can provide the appropriate emphasis for the less asute reader.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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i think you mean "astute"

have a great day

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:41 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Yes, glad to see you are paying attention.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Ben is not invincible and neither is the dollar, but I'll bet we see a sub one percent ten year before this is all over.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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You may be right but im not betting on it.

Everyone here is Bullish TSY it seems and i think the lows/highs are in.

Now the rest of the "market" will flake around untill this is understood. Then... well... heads up

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Good luck Von. I am rooting for you. I meant that.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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You misinterpret people's cynicism for bullishness.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment SeverinSlade
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Rates will never go up?  I think the more accurate statement is: The Fed will never willfully allow interest rates to go up.  As with the death of all fiat currencies, eventually Mr. Market wins and the Keynesians lose.

Risk can only be artificially mispriced and ignored for so long. 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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amazingly, this has been the case since 1971.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:18 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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Rates will go up when Ben and the other cocksuckers see that the middle class, finally, can no longer afford $5/gal milk, $6/gal gas, etc., and it's time to pop the bubble and start the second phase of the plan: destroy the market and buy back the world at pennies on the dollar. 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:44 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Indeed, and if the populace is disarmed, taking possession will be considerably easier.  The problem the kleptocrats face may be in that people will demand something real in exchange like gold or they may not be interested in selling (for those with the deed/title).

MBAs hate it when asked what the "price" is for something a person isn't willing to sell.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:46 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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Help me! They think bond prices are going down or is it bond rates?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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The puts think prices are going down, they think bonds will be sold and the money rotated into stocks.

 

 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment FL_Conservative
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That would be true if the money being used to pump the equity market wasn't coming from the Fed.  If the Fed hints at slowing bond purchases, that will decrease expectation of future funding (banks' excess reserves) and cause banks to start withdrawing funds from the equity market to prepare for "tightening".  But I'm with the camp that believes there's NO WAY the Fed can stop the merry-go-round that they're pushing or all hell WILL break loose.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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Thanks. I thought that's what it meant but found it hard to believe that so much money would think the Fed and Treasury would let bond rates rise. Who knows, maybe their right but it's sooo easy for them to create a risk off scenario and keep the rates low (and keep all the put money).

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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They think bonds are going down and rates are going up with possible fed tightening. I would be willing to take the other side of that trade. Rates will not go up with 8% deficits and the Bernank at the helm.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Bob Sacamano
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So opposite of what happened in 2007 - where prices went thru the roof (yields down).  A little unclear on what the 2007 comparison in the post meant,

Presumably there are sellers of those puts who are betting the same amount as those buying puts.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:44 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Like I said... I'm willing to bet the trade does the other way..yields down and bonds up. I believe we will see the ten year below one percent before this is all over with.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Orly
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Sheer numbers in put volume.

Today is the highest put volume for Treasury, second only to 2007.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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"Rotate" on this

Overdue Student Loans Reach ‘Unsustainable’ 15%, Fair Isaac Says

"Delinquency rates on student loans made in the past two years stand at 15 percent in the U.S. as recent graduates struggle to find jobs, Fair Isaac Corp. (FICO) said.

The rate for 2010 through 2012 compares with 12.4 percent for loans made from 2005 to 2007, Fair Isaac’s FICO Labs said in a statement today, citing data from October. Average student- loan debt last year rose to $27,253 from $17,233 in 2005, and almost 60 percent of bank managers surveyed in December expect delinquencies to worsen in six months, FICO said."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-29/overdue-student-loans-reach-uns...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Room 101
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Cue student loan forgiveness push in 4...3...2...1

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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The Fed will have to buy ALL OF THEM first. And they probably will, eventually.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment youngman
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Illegals first..have to get all 40 million of them on welfare first....

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:47 | Link to Comment Gamma735
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Gandalf: It's the deep breath before the plunge.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment virgilcaine
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Buy TLT. We are at Peak Inflated everything .. again.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Zero coupon bonds (H/t Dr. Lacey Hunt) have achieved equity like returns ever since Wall Street was "collapsed." with the Fed going "full on (get to work) Japanese" and zero economic recovery...well, let's just say I'd be amazed if the only thing we achieved in 2008 was a massive deflation...but I've been nothing BUT amazed since that epochal...and apocryphal...year.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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Bullish as fuck for Ts.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Sophist Economicus
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Yup, I'm with ya.    Another tease to sucker the shorts....

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:50 | Link to Comment thepigman
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The Bernank is going to murdalize those put buyers or his

reputation will be shot and da markets will tank.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment JustPrintMoreDuh
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The bottom will not be allowed to fall out until DHS receives all that hollow point ammo & AR's, local police fully militarized, TSA rolled out to all transportation sites, more elite puppet scumbags jump ship and head to secluded getaways, american populace unarmed, 401k's, pensions etc raided ... what am I doing ... this iz ZH ... you all know the script being played out.  

 

REVOLUTION bitchez. 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:02 | Link to Comment RiotActing
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Revolution? good luck with that against tanks, drones and apache helicopters. Any fantasies of "revolution" will be blown up and smashed real quick buddy. Wake up. 

I laugh at the idiot who think AR-15s are going to stop the government from taking more freedoms. You believe that? You are part of the problem.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment JustPrintMoreDuh
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There are other means of revolution beyond .223  ... walk away from their system ... perhaps it is your ilk that is the problem?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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The system will die of starvation.  Right now Ben can print money so DHS can buy guns with air and people accept it. Some day there won't be any faith in the funny money and DHS won't have guns or many people willing to stand behind the guns. Choices are being made by people now on how things resolve at that time. Make choices toward one of the better outcomes.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:58 | Link to Comment RiotActing
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Unless you are talking about massive non violent sit ins with 100,000s of people, not a damn thing is going to stop any of this... including stupid POS AR-15s.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment A. Magnus
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Really? How's that 'domination' of Afghanistan going? Rumor has it all the Taliban has are AK-47s and RPGs, after 12 years your 'super soldiers' with all their high tech toys STILL can't control that fucking agrarian country.

Your argument is bullshit.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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are you kidding me? do you know the kind of maintenance that it takes to keep the army going? and when every base is in hostile territory in a country the size of the US?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:48 | Link to Comment Orly
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...and half the mechanics are "double-agents"...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment RiotActing
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Ok man, you can be the first to be blown up. Ill be long gone... morons think they are going to 'fight' the government. Its fucking priceless really. LOL

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment A. Magnus
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Hey dumbass - All the Iraqis had to fight with was AK-47s and rocket propelled grenades with the occasional IED supplement. The Pentagon had to PAY OFF the Sunni militias in 2006 so they would stop attacking our supply lines. Now the Iraqi resistance fighters all get free food and room and board from Washington DC for NOT fighting your supposedly invincible US armed forces. No air force, no navy, no tank forces worth mentioning on the Iraqi side.

#Winning - with just a lousy assault rifle

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:28 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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I laugh at the idiots who think that our boys in the military will side with the same government who threw the shit at the fan and fire on US citizens.  

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Ignorance is bliss
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What about that old adage "Don't fight the Fed"? Recently, replaced with "Fuck the Fed."

Since everything seems to be traded on insider info. and fraud. I wonder if my congressman's money is shorting T-Bills. There should be an ETA that tracks those scoundrals. 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Gamma735
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Dumb money plays in the stock before 3PM EST.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment realtick
Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment RiotActing
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What's with the 14 year old? What a stupid fucking website.

Fuck they just let any fucktwad post here dont they? 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment TrumpXVI
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WTFs WRONG with you, dude?

A pic of a nude Sara Michelle Geller will get my motor runnin' EVERY time.  BTW, she's now 35.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment RiotActing
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Anyone who thinks Sara Michelle Geller is hot IS living in their moms basement and needs to get out more. Again, she looks 14, but hey if thats your thing...

Morons...

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment knowless
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yup

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Karlus
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realtick, you gotta put a NSFW tag on there before you go there. We are all not in Mom's basement

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Mi Naem
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Thanks for taking a moment out of your porn-browsing, shaft-fapping day to share here on ZH. 

Don't look now, but your mommy's behind you...and she's into it. 

Have fun. 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment EmmittFitzhume
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NIRP will come before the fall

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment DR
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Please explain why you believe so....

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment EmmittFitzhume
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Fed will have to pay people to take their worthless paper. The last effort to delay, albeit a short time, the inevitable unwind and collapse of the financial system.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:02 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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Fuck you Bernanke and your corrupt fucking "market" you fucking run.

I hope you fucking get what's coming to you in spades you motherfucker.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment DR
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And consumer confidence hits a new low.

Only the hedgies, HFT and 1% are playing the market. The question is-who is the dumb money now?

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Oil making a nice steady rise.

Finally breaking out.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:10 | Link to Comment El Hosel
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... Yeah, oil up  just like the "Market" nice steady rise. Yes, we have no price discovery. No supply and demand just the machine painting the "appropriate" illusion .

Oil is going to drop like everything else when any wiff a reality is priced in..... meanwhile DOW 14,000 hats all around.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment youngman
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"Bernanke Seen Buying $1.14 Trillion in Assets in 2014 "....this is so wrong...so wrong..you can double it if a bond runs starts to take off...and maybe even more....I am not on the roller coaster...I am on the ground watching the bolts fall off of the ride....

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Oil just so much higher.

Probably in the mid $100s.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Buy The F'n Ammo.

I swear that the banksters have come out with a method of personal graphs where each time you look at your stock price it is down but for everyone else it is up.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:44 | Link to Comment Confundido
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Tomorrow at 14:15, gold gets kicked in the balls big time...We'll see though if it punches through $1,625/oz.... Nobody comfortable below $1,625/oz should leave now before it's too late.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment Catullus
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Fed underwriting puts again. The stealth monetization.

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:02 | Link to Comment Lmo Mutton
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Is it possible that the bankrupt banks are using their bankrupt ethics to avoid a public bankruptcy thus bankrupting themselves personally?

 

I just don't get it.

 

ETA: terminology

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 15:10 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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This is not the beginning of the "great unwind" - it is merely $trillions of newly created funny money sloshing around the global casino. Into equities, out of bonds. Then out of equities and back into bonds.

When the inevitable "great unwind" actually does take place, it will be at lightning speed - trapping everyone because they will get no warning. This move will prove to be nothing more than another head-fake that traps no one.

 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:13 | Link to Comment Gary US Bonds
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More of those puts were costumer sales. That's the problem w/ traded put call ratios or volume spikes, they don't diffentiate buys from sale.  

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:19 | Link to Comment Remington IV
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tighten your sphincters

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