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The Rise Of America's Lunatic Fringe

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The Rise Of America's Lunatic Fringe

Anyone who spends any amount of time on the internet has seen them.

They are the moonbats, the wingnuts, the whackjobs, the Conspiratorialists.  They are America’s new Lunatic Fringe, and their numbers are growing.

While the rise of the internet fed a segment of society that has always existed, when the cyberworld became an increasingly important source both of entertainment and information, an entirely new demographic joined what was already amongst us.

Who are they and what do they believe?  The Lunatic Fringe is not uniform in either its background or beliefs.  Some clearly seem to be emotionally disturbed.  Some are racist and hateful.  Others are simply naïve and gullible, or uninformed.  Still more are frustrated by an economy and a government that are behaving out of whack with what most people expected from life and from leadership.  They want to believe America stands for something noble, but it is increasingly felt by them that it does not.  They are confused, frustrated, and disappointed.  They feel violated and betrayed.  They grow angrier by the day.  Some harbor a diffuse rage which could blow at any time. Others have figuratively thrown in the towel and have joined the ranks of what are called Preppers and Survivalists.

Collectively, though individually they differ, the beliefs of the Fringe conspiracies behind the JFK assassination, the lunar landing, and 911.  The collective also includes the Birthers, and believers in everything from FEMA Camps to chemtrails to that retro old favorite of Colonel Jack Ripper, fluoridation.  The Fringe holds beliefs that have the world controlled variously by the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, the Council on Foreign Relations, 33rd Degree Freemasons, the Vatican, the Queen of England, or just The Illuminati.  Every event and every incident in the world is affected by some Master Plan carried out by whomever the believer chooses from the aforementioned gallery of rogues.  For many, al Qaeda is really al CIAda, and the prime directive of that organization, along with all the other USG alphabet agencies, is to further the goals of the elite, usually through some “false flag” operation or “psy-op”, and funded through illicit drug sales.

Believers can “prove” each and every one of their claims via a series of cross-referenced and circular internet links, the source of many undoubtedly just someone’s fertile imagination, but very real to the believers.

To the uninitiated this all seems rather humorous, albeit slightly unsettling.  It would be both wrong and unwise, however, just to slough it off as the ramblings of the insane.  The reason such beliefs are gaining favor is because many Americans have lost faith and lost trust in the government and America’s elected leadership.  Given what has happened over the last decade, this is not only understandable, it is even, in an odd way, reasonable.  A continual drift to the fringe can be expected because of the many very real things that make the foolish things suddenly more believable.

Why have the people lost faith and trust?  There is a host of reasons, perhaps beginning with the war of choice in Iraq and the vociferous and passionate claims of WMD that turned out to be false.  That war cost lives, cost sympathy and diplomatic capital, and cost trillions even when America was told by former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz that the war “would pay for itself from oil sales” and that “Americans would be welcomed with garlands”.  Neither was anything close to accurate.  Instead the US has war dead, war wounded, a huge bill, fewer friends, and many more enemies.

What truly exacerbated the rush to the fringe were the Financial Crisis and the subsequent railroaded bailouts, which “democratic”
America opposed to the tune of 97%, and which were, and still are viewed as rewarding the very people who caused the collapse.  The oft-spoken official claims that “the taxpayer made a profit on the bailouts” just adds salt to the taxpayers’ wounds, as it conveniently fails to take into account the host of programs---from TALF to ZIRP to QEI, II, and III and Twist---that virtually handed the banks the money with which they could “pay back” the bailout cash.

America sees backroom deals and favors to insiders every step of the way, and rightfully so they see this, because that is exactly how the bailout was affected.  No one had to pay for his mistakes, and equally significant, no one has been prosecuted despite overwhelming evidence of fraud, malfeasance, and corruption.  Americans cannot help but subscribe to the cynical quip, “everyone is equal under the law, except for those who are above it”.  Fines don't count, especially when the money to pay them comes right back through another door.

America's prisons are filled with people who did little more than use a banned substance.  It's time some bankers and officials faced the possibility of similar accommodations, as their crimes are greater and victims substantially more.

The belief that all is not fair is further cemented when the Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer can be taped (PBS, “Frontline”) saying, "Well, I think I am pursuing justice. And I think the entire responsibility of the department is to pursue justice. But in any given case, I think I and prosecutors around the country, being responsible, should speak to regulators, should speak to experts, because if I bring a case against institution A, and as a result of bringing that case, there’s some huge economic effect — if it creates a ripple effect so that suddenly, counterparties and other financial institutions or other companies that had nothing to do with this are affected badly — it’s a factor we need to know and understand."

No matter how one parses that quote it still says the same thing: some are above the law.

The American people are well aware they have been lied to by the leadership.  They know that a lobbyist has an infinitely greater chance of getting his way than an entire nation of voters.  They know who pays the bills---the taxpayer---as well as who pays the politicians---the lobbyists.  They see the Federal Debt ballooning to Greek-like proportions, and the best Congress can do, other than take vacation or kick the can, is to tell Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke to “get to work, Mr. Chairman”, which means print more money, monetize the deficit, and further dilute the value of the dollar.

Even some people within the government are undoubtedly growing frustrated.  Imagine someone in DEA, FBI, CIA, or the military, who sees the slap on the wrist fine handed to a certain non-US bank for a decade or more of drug money laundering and laundering money for Iran, some of which might well have found its way to Hezbollah or to parties aiding the Iraqi insurgency.  There are people in Waziristan who face the wrath of a drone-fired Hellfire missile with less evidence to back up the attack.  This bank, incidentally, received a $3.5 billion payment-in-full upon the US taxpayer bailout of insurer AIG.

When trust is gone, everything becomes an affront, a conspiracy, a power grab by the elite.  The recently passed National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which gives the President incredibly broad powers, seems to obviate both habeas corpus and the entire Bill of Rights.  When the trust is gone, people are less willing to believe that such a bill would never be used recklessly, or vindictively to put down vocal opponents of whatever Administration happens to be in power at the time.  When trust is gone, the people question new efforts to alter the Second Amendment, even if many are personally outraged at the rash of gun violence that has come to epitomize the United States, so they rush to guns rather than run from them.  When the trust is gone, the message of the Lunatic Fringe is afforded greater reception.  When the trust is gone the Fringe grows into the mainstream.  When trust is gone in some aspects of governance, all governance is questioned.

The government can no longer afford to ignore the Lunatic Fringe, because it is becoming less loon and more understandably and righteously indignant every day.  The government did not create the Fringe, but through callous disregard, incompetence, blatant self-interest, cronyism, selective enforcement, and pandering to its financial support base, the government has fertilized the fringe until it has grown to redwood-like size.  The nation's leadership is viewed not with respect, but with distrust.  It is not the solution, but the problem.  It has morphed from friend to enemy, at least for a not insignificant portion of the citizenry.   The fringe is not going to go away, but instead it will grow.  Its wounds will fester.  It will continue to hammer away at an already fragile society.  It may well lead to significant social unrest, even violence, and that violence is likely to be directed at those seen as responsible for the fiscal, financial and moral decay, which means the elite and the government that is seen as catering to it.  New records in the Dow will not alter the focus, nor ameliorate the bubbling rage, even if the financial media or the Federal Reserve thinks it will.  This growing demographic of citizens must have its concerns addressed before it is too late.

Woe to those who ignore it, because they will become the targets, rightfully or not.

To paraphrase a certain career New York Senator, “Mr. Government, get to work!”  Or better yet, get out of the way.


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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:46 | 3201170 knukles
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You talkin' to me?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:49 | 3201175 ACP
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No, that would be the GoldYankers West Side Thugz.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:54 | 3201192 THX 1178
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Who wrote this article? It is full of opinion passed off as fact. News? Editorial? Both? Neither?


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:57 | 3201205 barliman
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Or, at least, that's what "they" will be told when questions are raised.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:16 | 3201245 dwdollar
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If I'm a nut-job for believing people with common goals conspire together in secret to achieve agendas which are mutually beneficial, then so it. I'M THE BIGGEST FUCKING NUT-JOB YOU'VE EVER SEEN. Labeling someone a tinfoil hat "Conspiracy Theorist" to scare them back into the fold may have worked in the '90s but it doesn't work today. Dis-info agents take note. You need a new strategy.

Actually, this sounds like someone who's just beginning to wake up. Make contact with us again in a few years when you have more facts chindit.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:22 | 3201258 forexskin
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Collectively, though individually they differ, the beliefs of the Fringe include a conspiracy behind the JFK assassination, a faked moon landing, and the current favorite:  that 911 was an “inside” job.  The collective also includes the Birthers, and those who believe in everything from FEMA Camps to chemtrails to that retro old favorite of Colonel Jack Ripper, fluoridation.  (Those unfamiliar with these terms should Google them for more information than one might care to have.) The Fringe holds beliefs that have the world controlled variously by the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, the Council on Foreign Relations, 33rd Degree Freemasons, the Vatican, the Queen of England, or just The Illuminati.

thank for clearing all that up chindic, you wanker.

who let this asshole on the soapbox?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:38 | 3201308 UP Forester
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Yeah, he forgot the conspiracy theory that US invaded Afghanistan because the Taliban cut off the opium trade:

That can never happen, it would be like CIA planes crashing full of cocaine.


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:45 | 3201330 trav777
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these lunatics are nothing more than RACISTS pining for the bygone days of Old America.

they can't adjust to the reality of New America

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:13 | 3201399 macholatte
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Who wrote this article? It is full of opinion passed off as fact. News? Editorial? Both? Neither?


Just another Media Matters troll working the dark side of the street.


Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe.
Theodore Roosevelt


What can you do against the lunatic who is more intelligent than yourself, who gives your arguments a fair hearing and then simply persists in his lunacy?
George Orwell


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:11 | 3201559 thedrickster
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-5.........Forgot the </sarc> Trav, self-hating whites need to play it cool.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 11:09 | 3202361 Watauga
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Sarcasm? Or are you really this dense?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:04 | 3201377 DaveyJones
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that's one of my personal favorites because as a criminal lawyer, heroin is such a high schedule drug and God forbid, that means were not just criminals, were special criminals. Another reason it's high up on my list is once again, as things fall apart, we get more blatant in both our reliance and emergency need to prop up the underground economy because well, the overground one is so obviously screwed up and just as criminal at this point. I think Chindit and I got into a 911 debate a year or two back in comments. It was fun   

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:10 | 3201994 Sparkey
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He is very clever, he is doing a MDM, and confirming the "conspiracies" he, nominally, debunks. I believe it is called irony, well played Chingit, well played!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:18 | 3201260 TerminalDebt
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Dammit, that bastard is calling us Whackjobs

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:31 | 3201291 Vagabond
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This guy makes a bunch of claims with absolutely no proof, but says that anyone who believes otherwise is on the "lunatic fringe".  Present some facts.  The world trade center buildings were taken down with thermite.  To me, that clearly indicates an inside job.  I'm with the side of truth... if that's fringe, so be it, but I'm no lunatic for using simple deduction.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:33 | 3201299 A Lunatic
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You say "Lunatic" like it's a bad thing..........

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:14 | 3201405 Curiously_Crazy
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At least it gets me off the hook

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:19 | 3201577 strannick
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Im using simple deduction

In a time of universal deceit - simple deduction is a revolutionary act.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 04:44 | 3201770 All Risk No Reward
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Conspiracy is a fact - 100% provable beyond any and all doubt.  Anyone who doesn't think major conspiracies exist is an ignorant fool with no understanding of human history.

Anyonoe who stacks disdain for others who KNOW THE FACTS is an arrogant fool.

Let me prove, beyond all doubt, that the Federal Reserve is engaged in a conspiracy to criminally blow the world's largest credit bubble and is actively engaged in lying to cover it up.

Everyone knows the Fed has a dual mandate.  Except they don't.  The Fed minions LIE ABOUT THEIR MANDATE to fool idiots who think the most powerful nation on the planet is somehow immune to conspiracy that has impacted every other nation at nearly every moment intheir history.

Don't trust me - trusting crimnals is what got us here.

Read Section 2A of the Federal Reserve Act for yourself.

Federal Reserve Act
Section 2A. Monetary Policy Objectives

The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Open Market Committee shall maintain long run growth of the monetary and credit aggregates commensurate with the economy's long run potential to increase production, so as to promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates.

[12 USC 225a. As added by act of November 16, 1977 (91 Stat. 1387) and amended by acts of October 27, 1978 (92 Stat. 1897); Aug. 23, 1988 (102 Stat. 1375); and Dec. 27, 2000 (114 Stat. 3028).]

I bolded and underlined the mandate.  The expected results of following the mandate follow the singular mandate itself.  But the Fed has broken that mandate for 30 years running, so they can't talk about it or else the chumptocracy that thinks conspiracies are for kooks might take their thumbs out of their mouths and start paying attention to something besides what the establishment spoon feeds them.

What did the Fed do?  Why, they took monetary and credit aggregates EXPONENTIAL TO realized GDP for 30 years running.

Look at the first chart (data gleened from Fed and BEA):

Ladies and gentlemen, that's a crime scene.  That's a crimnal act per Section 2A of the Federal Reserve Act.

Why don't we have stable prices and maximum employment?  Because the Fed criminally broke the mandate as outlined in Section 2A.


What are you going to do now that 100% proof has been presented proving the Fed has covered up criminal behavior for 30 years?

Nothing, because the author of the original article is an establishment minion running interference for the criminals perched atop the Federal Reserve like vultures.  He gets of displaying is total ignorance of history and the facts of the case and gets off discrediting people who actually know what they are talking about.  This clown is so ignorant he has no idea the vultures are going to eat him as well the rest of us.

But it is even worse.  There was a conspiracy that took place over 100 years ago.  It was a conspiracy to force a fraudulent debt based monetary system onto a naive public (no thanks to ignorant blowhards like the original author),

This system is literally a Debt Star system that covertly and systematically asset strips entire society's until society is impoverished and the money defining and creating class is perched atop the nation state.

Debt Money Tyranny money flow chart

That's two conspiracy facts the original author can pretend doesn't exist as he mocks people who know what they are talking about from his position of ignorance or establishment promoted deceit.


More research:

“The word ‘Establishment’ is a general term for the power elite in international finance, business, the professions and government, largely from the northeast, who wield most of the power regardless of who is in the White House. Most people are unaware of the existence of this ‘legitimate Mafia.’ Yet the power of the Establishment makes itself felt from the professor who seeks a foundation grant, to the candidate for a cabinet post or State Department job. It affects the nation's policies in almost every area.”
~Edith Kermit Roosevelt, Elite Clique Holds Power in U.S., Indianapolis News, p. 6. December 23, 1961.

The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline (this is a mostly brilliant presentation and an incredible history lesson)

Peace Revolution #60 Podcast

The money definers and the money creators are very sophisticated criminals and they are out to dominate you and yours as feudal lords.  Useful idiots or cold blooded operatives like this author are used to try and disarm their victims.

They are using Sun Tzu's Art of War model to reimplement the Royalty/feudalism system.

1. The King and his interests were above the law.  Now there is a class of financier minions that above the law.  Got diplomatic immunity?  If you are implementing fraudulent Debt Money Tryanny to attack a nation state, you are above the law.  Of course the criminals running the whol thing are above the law.

2. The King rather enjoyed torturing the serfs he didn't like and to send a message to others.  The establishment has brought torture back.

3. The King was exempt from taxation.  Got offshore multinational and Foundations operating essentially tax free while the serfs pay 50%+?  When Rockefeller disclosed his tax returns in the 1970s during his VP run, it revealed he paid ZERO tax. 

4. The King could murder his opposition without any evidence or a trial of his peers.  Got NDAA?

5. The King was running the Opium Wars to destabilize other nation states.  Now we have the mega banks laundering $100s of billions in drug money and taking care of drug cartel logistics by leasing the airplanes for them...  and nobody gets in trouble when they are caught.  Tax payers have funded the effort that made Afghanistan the #1 heroin poppy producer and marijuana producer on the planet.  The tax payers arm the drug cartels that launder their money through the mega banks with guns and grenade launchers.  The government cuts deals with a drug cartel that allows them to bring tons of cocaine into America, free and clear, while your grandmother is being strip searched by TSA.  Sounds like Opium Wars 2.0 to me.

The crazy thing is that We, The People are being dominated by the exact same power structure we fought off back in 1776!  Yes, they've had to infiltrate our system in order to overthrow it, so that requires many traitors to play their roll.

The Traitor is the Plague

"War is all about deception"
~Sun Tzu

"The best warrior never has to fight."
~Sun Tzu

Here's a historical tidbit for you...  The First Bank of the United States had a charter that ended in 1811.

The state that housed the money definers and money creators that controlled that bank started a war with America in 1812.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 06:01 | 3201819 cynicalskeptic
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Sometimes, 'they' ('they' being the State or the powers that the State serves) ARE out to get you.....    Sometimes you can't be paranoid enough.  


Why else would a big powerful nation be so afraid of individuals and their Constitutional Rights (which are pretty much shredded at this point)

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:47 | 3202067 kill switch
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I loved it when Nixon professed,, I may be paranoid but that doesn’t mean there not out to get me.. Classic

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:48 | 3205287 All Risk No Reward
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The dElites are liars.

The Patriot Act is unpatriotic.

Don't be evil means they are evil

The Affordable Care Act makes healthcare unaffordable as prices double.

The New World Order is really the ___ World Order.

CFan you guess what the ___ stands for?

Old World Order.

These criminals want their feudal lord / royalty system back.

What did the psychopathic royalty and feudal lords do in the days of old?

"Off with his head" - the King could murder citizens with no evidence and no trial.  NDAA

"Disappear that person" - NDAA

Torture - go visit a British castle's basement to look at our future.  They can't get the good stuff going until they disarm us.

The Royalty and their chosen ones are above the law.  JP Morgan crime syndicate, Congressional insider traders, mega banks laundering hundreds of billions in drug money, Got Jon Corzine (working for JP Morgan), etc.

The Royal class are exempt form taxes.

The Royal class is exempt form laws...  ObamaCare, gun control, Social Security, Medicare don't apply to Royalty.

Neo feudalism is the future.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."
  -- Quote from Caroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope, Chapter 20

This isn't a game.  This is reality.

The Invisible Empire of the New World Order / You Can Hear it If You Listen

If you have a short attention span

Shadows of Power - The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960's to examine its papers and secret records. … I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.
~Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:22 | 3201432 Cdad
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Thu, 01/31/2013 - 08:06 | 3201900 bdc63
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"You think I'm Crazy? ... I'll show you crazy! ..." Brittany Spears


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 02:58 | 3201698 Never One Roach
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I thumbed through the DSM-IV Codes for psychiatric diseases....'Lunatic" was not in there:


Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition, Text Revision, also known as DSM-IV-TR, is a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) that includes all currently recognized mental health disorders.


I guess I'm normal after all !

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 14:43 | 3203287 monad
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DSM-IV is like the DMV code. It has 21 different ways to diagnose anyone standing still as being crazy. Its not what you do, its who you blow.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:21 | 3201434 Bastiat
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Opposite of a "Truther" is a "Liar"

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:31 | 3201457 DaveyJones
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and deniar

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:30 | 3201455 Anusocracy
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The lunatic majority consists of those who believe that government is good, or does good, that its presence is necessary for the existence of civilization, and without which, our lives would be ones of privation and suffering.

Unlike the lunatic fringe, these lunatics bring death and destruction.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 05:09 | 3201788 jeff montanye
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bad government gives good government a bad name.  

the u.s. constitution, to me, says that better government is possible and to be preferred over worse government.

a government of laws is better than a government of men.

a free market requires an honest system of justice.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 06:02 | 3201817 blabam
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Laws are written by men? Since government is never honest it can't be trusted with "justice". 

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:50 | 3202073 Tall Tom
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Unfortunately the US Constitution is a FAILURE. This is DEMONSTRABLE by considering the evidence of today's reality I do not like the reality. Yet I cannot deny the reality that the US Government has failed and the Constitution has not been followed for well over a Century.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:08 | 3201986 WarHorse
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"Present some facts.  THe world trade center buildings were taken down with thermite"

HAHAHAHA ... adjust your tin foil hat ... its crooked .. How about you present some facts .. and don;t just post a link to some half-baked, radical, lunatic fringe website

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 15:35 | 3203445 AE911Truth
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Please, read and learn.

Hard physical evidence and facts.


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 05:42 | 3205469 Clashfan
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That's a great site.

Who is this Chindit tool, and what's his point?

This article is a piece of utter shit. Disappointed, ZH.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:21 | 3201270 Bicycle Repairman
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"Collectively, though individually they differ, the beliefs of the Fringe include a conspiracy behind the JFK assassination"

Don't want to go all "tin foil hat" on you here, but the Warren Commission (1964) is not the American government's final judgment on the killing of JFK.  The subsequent House Select commitee (1977) concluded: conspiracy.  They recommended Justice department action.

Still waiting.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:15 | 3201409 ultimate warrior
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Martin Luther King's family and his attorney, William F. Pepper, won a civil trial that found US government agencies guilty in the wrongful death of Martin Luther King. The 1999 trial,King Family versus Jowers and Other Unknown Co-Conspirators, is the only trial ever conducted on the assassination of Dr. King.


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:23 | 3201583 thedrickster
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"The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee was unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy."

Hilarious. Trendies still laugh at JFK "conspiracy theorists". 2nd American Coup, Nov 22, 1963

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 08:55 | 3201961 Dapper Dan
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I am going to leave this here for you,      Advertising executive Ed Haslam discussed how his investigation of the 1964 murder of a cancer researcher led him to a story which connects a massive contamination of the polio vaccine to our current cancer epidemic and even the JFK assassination.



I had saved this comment for some reason. (and he did get a lot of junks) 

by chindit13
on Sun, 05/23/2010 - 03:44


Okay, I'm prepared to set the modern day record for junks.

There is no New World Order.  The Bilderbergs are just a bunch of self-important clowns who are arrogant enough to think they even understand all the variables, much less control them.  Ditto Davos.  Ditto the G7/8/20.  Add the Trilateral Commission, the Masons and Opus Dei.  Skull and Bones?  Just a bunch of drunk frat-boy types who never quite grow up. 

People who attribute great power and control to the elite are merely compensating for their own lack of resolve or courage or success.  It is an excuse for failure, nothing more.  It is an admission of defeat before the battle even starts.  All of the conspiracies attributed to the great unseen forces get more bizarre and less rational with time.  Eventually the conspiracies don't even have to make sense;  they just have to be stated repeatedly, quoted in articles, linked in comments etc., until they become a kind of tautology.  Everybody feels better about themselves because they have an excuse not to attack the gods.

The one mistake I see many writers make on this blog is to over estimate the power of those who are raping the US and oppressing its citizens.  Some people seem to believe the elite are surrounded by a massive force, like the ones protecting the arch villains in James Bond movies, and who get ceremoniously slaughtered in the climactic scene.

In point of fact the elite is quite small, poorly protected, and able to do what they do simply because the general population allows it to happen.

The source of their power is actually quite simple. Money. That’s it. They have gamed the system so that the monied interests scratch the backs of the legal holders of power (who are different from the holders of physical power), then the leaders do a reach-around and take care of the desires of the monied elite.

For example, Jamie Dimon wants something (a way to accumulate more money), so he hires some lobbyists who know the “go buttons” of those who make the rules, then the rule makers---whether it is Congress, the Fed or Treasury---arrange the system purely for the benefit of Jamie Dimon.

Everyone in that circle jerk, however, is vulnerable. Physically vulnerable. Contrary to those I might call conspiratorialists, the greater system does not protect these thieves and corrupt officials. That is an illusion.

 For the record I have always enjoyed Chindit13's comments, I differ on some comments,  but that's ok,

You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it.

G. K. CHESTERTON, Daily News, Feb. 25, 1905


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:24 | 3201585 strannick
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Don't want to go all "tin foil hat" on you here, but

Your not, thats the author's paradigm, not ZH's...


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:43 | 3201325 BLOTTO
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If you are in a good mood and feel like getting pissed off? - read this article.


Fuckin joke and i cant even be bothered to waste my energy on responding in any detail.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 02:35 | 3201684 ThirdWorldDude
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You probably haven't been called a tin-foil hat lunatic enough, after a while you learn to get over the pissed-off part.
As for myself, I'd rather belong to the lunatic fringe than being an "ignorant sheeple" or a "statist puppet" like the article's author...

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:00 | 3202076 BLOTTO
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Oh my friend - i have. Its a fuckin battle with the masses.


Im not too sure who pisses me off more - the masses or the elite.? And now mix that in with the Trolls...and its a three legged bloody race to the finish line of frustration.


And your right, eventually you do learn to get over the pissed-off part.


Lunatic fringe for life.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 19:29 | 3204364 mkhs
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Is it time to start citizen action committees?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:05 | 3201380 palmereldritch
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I think chindit's Pith helmet is on too tight.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 08:43 | 3201941 Farside
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 Labeling someone a tinfoil hat "Conspiracy Theorist" to scare them back into the fold may have worked in the '90s but it doesn't work today. Dis-info agents take note. You need a new strategy.

Actually, stick with that strategy.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:57 | 3202310 steelhead23
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I see that you are sensitive to being considered a nutjob because you accept some truths others don't.  Don't you see that point of the article is NOT to decry the growth of conspiracy theories and nutjobs - the author's point is that this rise in conspiracy theories is directly related to the declining legitimacy of our leaders - a broad loss of faith.  But this "loss of faith" is not merely a loss of faith in political leadership, it is a loss of faith in "the system", from the lies told by Judith Miller in the runup to the Iraq invasion, to Lanny Breuer's unwillingness to upset the status quo by prosecuting banksters, to the blatant acceptance of mendacity in the securities industry.  We are losing faith that that which we are asked to accept as true is, in fact, true.  Hence, we disbelieve.  We proles ARE waking up.  Governments around the globe are dealing with legitimation crises (see Jurgen Habermas).  I doubt it will take years for this crisis to reach a crescendo.


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 13:06 | 3202868 Space142
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someone said:

"who wants to be sane in an insane world" 


clearly the majority are insane to keep empowering the people "leading" the Country.  These so called elected leaders are clearly lunatic physcopaths colluding for internatiaonal control of soveriegn resources throughout the World.  Us "Lunatics" are just waiting for the majority to get just as crazy on information as we have so the fringe moves center and the true resistance to despots can commence.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 13:43 | 3203014 Buzz Fuzzel
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dwdollar, you did not ready the whole article did you?


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:18 | 3201255 forexskin
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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:02 | 3201218 AllWorkedUp
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What a fucking joke of an article.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:05 | 3201222 Bad Attitude
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Was this written by the same DHS "fusion center" people who were writing reports about "right wing extremism" not too long ago?

Must I unconditionally trust the government to be considered "normal?"

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:35 | 3201466 RebelDevil
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No. "Normal" is just not giving a shit and getting drunk.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:49 | 3202075 Magically Delicious
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Then I'm getting more normal by the minute! I wish High School had been this easy...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:40 | 3201316 Freddie
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The "Lunatic Fringe" are the dumb fux who watch TV or Hollywood's shit.  All of it is garbage.  F TV and Hollywood.

Limbaugh now is in the amnesty camp and has been neutered by Oba-MAO.  Better to talk about some Steelers/NFL crap or Apple's newest iShit gadget.


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:18 | 3201422 eatthebanksters
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Lunatic fringe: Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Eric Holder, Lanny Breuer, Van Jones, Ben Bernanke, Tim Geithner, Barack Obama.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:52 | 3201516 Richardk888
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Lunatic Fringe: 95% of the Federal Government

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:59 | 3201359 aerojet
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It's not supposed to be a research paper, it is an attempt to capture a snapshot of what is currently taking place in the US--it is capturing the revolutionary mood that the regular people are in because our government has completely and utterly failed us.  So the choice is either broad reform and real solutions or we soon reach the point of no return.  The whole thing only awaits a spark at this point; for example, if cops in NY actually had begun seizing newly outlawed firearms frome people in large numbers.  But that didn't happen.  No matter, the spark could be almost anything now.  There is unbelievable anger felt by so many people because they know that they worked hard and still got screwed and they feel betrayed and betrayal causes hatred, then violence.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:08 | 3201386 A Lunatic
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Maybe we need an ObamaCares Hug Squad that goes around consoling the downtrodden fringe.........

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:12 | 3201562 DoChenRollingBearing
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I do not want an Obamacare Hug.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:15 | 3201571 akak
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Probably just as well --- one of the conditions for receiving one is confessing how many guns you have in your home.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 02:37 | 3201683 Teamtc321
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I wonder why US Middle East policy in Iraq was to mirror our Constitution's 2nd Amendment citizen right to bear arms and many American lives were lost so that every Iraqi household has a chance for freedom and liberty through their right to bear arms, specifically an AK-47 that fires a 7.62 round and holds a 45-round magazine. So, perhaps someone needs to ask these political hacks who claim some cling to gun's and religion, why it is that our Constitution and its 2nd Amendment is good enough for Iraqi households but not Americans? And, why did they vote in support of Iraqi freedom and liberty, yet are so against those same means for Americans on her soil? Maybe some Tin foil mind's, would like to know..........

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 05:19 | 3201797 jeff montanye
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there may be some cause and effect reversal here. i truly doubt the war was fought to arm iraqi families (it is ironic though, especially lately).

imo the cause was

saddam talking of trading oil for gold probably didn't help him though.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:48 | 3201493 Renfield
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Agreed, aerojet.

I'll go further - I found the article very good. (Then again, "conspiracy theorist", "tinfoil hat", and other labels have LONG since ceased to affect me so I am not feeling the same degree of outrage of many here.)

I am not American - was born & raised in the good ol' Commonwealth, a true soft-socialist liberal with collective tendencies. It was experience and a banquet of consequences, NOT my "education", that taught me the gulf between theory (and any related propaganda) and quiet, unadvertised reality. I became as close as a non-USian can be to a "libertarian" I guess, much to the confusion of my family.

I was recently asked why (for example) I now endorse gun ownership, hopefully one not identified on any government list. Back when I was young and knew everything, I was passionate (like most of my social group) for "gun control".

I replied that the difference for this, and nearly all the shift over the last decade in my politics, is because I NO LONGER TRUST THE GOVERNMENT.

Nor will I ever trust them, ever again. I know who the real "terrists" are now, who threaten MY way of life, and it ain't a handful of primitive tribal chiefs across the ocean.

I have learned a deep and abiding respect for the wisdom of the "Founding Fathers" of the once-great American nation, and the enduring beauty of its Constitution.

Ashamed or not, apologetic or not, I am one of the people that Chindit is writing about.

PS: Can anyone name any high-level crime, at the national or international level, that was NOT the fruit of a conspiracy?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:55 | 3201527 tickhound
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Dude you are completely terrifying and utterly certifiable.  100% wacko.  A kook.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:21 | 3201584 Renfield
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ya ya ya...yo mamma! :-P

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 06:08 | 3201823 blabam
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Next step: read the market for liberty. As a young dutchman I can relate to your story.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:09 | 3201391 Piranhanoia
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The author has shit for brains.  He used one of the worst mass murderers of the movies as an example and it was a bad reference.

Jack Ripper was a General you pinhead.  He ordered a nuclear attack on Russia because he was scared of women and tap water.   Get your purity of essence straight before you pen propaganda.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:20 | 3201424 toady
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POE all the way.

"I deny them that..."

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 05:26 | 3201802 jeff montanye
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thank you for the reference.  i missed it and i thought i knew a bit about kubrick's "dr. strangelove".


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 07:58 | 3201894 Henry Hub
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***he was scared of women***

Yes the women were robbing him of his natural bodily fluids. They are doing the same to me all the time, but I don't mind.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:49 | 3201416 JOYFUL
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Is it possible that our friend Chindit has been forgotten already?

....he who banished, himself only a year ago, after receiving a thoroughly appropriate thrashing for attempting to make the whole 9-11 thing vanish like a rabbit in a hat?

Fond are my memories of the rascal, who was definitely a cut above the usual telaviv troll-in fact, I pegged im as a professional - suave, erudite, and clearly well-connected. Pity he blew himself up real good!  Now one needs be content to cross spears with Mr FALAK PEMA when wishing to engage another fabulist of the nothing to see here-move along school of magical arts...while usually a good sport, and companiable dissimulationist, he lacks the tenacious fanaticism of our hero Chindit, and therefore is a mere snack rather than full course meal like the current author of this piece of comic relief.  

By deception ye shall know them! Cheerio then, Chindit ol sock!







Thu, 01/31/2013 - 04:23 | 3201761 Disenchanted
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Chindit: tenacious defender of a failed status quo...

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:32 | 3202226 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Pity he blew himself up real good!

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 04:51 | 3205432 chindit13
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Thrashing?  Reminds me of Roy Jones, Jr. at the Seoul Olympics in the boxing gold medal match.  You are the South Korean judge.  When you favorite wakes up, please congratulate him on his gold medal.  Heck of a fight.  Too bad he missed the ending.

Forgotten but not gone, I believe is the proper order.

My sword, or pen, is aimed well and true.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:50 | 3201508 El Oregonian
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Come on "Chindit the idiot", YOU SIR- are the nutjob! wHEN YOUR GOV'T BUYS UP 1.8 BILLION rounds of ammo- over a Quarter-Million Rounds of Hollow-Points (outlawed by the Geneva Convention), NDAA, loss of other Civil Rights- gov't asking troops "Would they fire on it's citizens?" and drumming out those that say "No".

I mean, what's not to prepare for?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 03:42 | 3201731 Hobbleknee
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Sweeping generalizations. 

First time I gave an article here one star.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:33 | 3202045 johnQpublic
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this article appears to be more for those who would monitor ZH than for those who read it on a regular basis.

on a scale of one to ten i give it a building 7.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:48 | 3202069 overmedicatedun...
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one common held truth here on zh ; the msm line .gov approved - is as sound as the dollar the basis of our economic world. ...

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 11:03 | 3202329 deeznutz
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Comedy Gold!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:52 | 3201638 RafterManFMJ
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The author forgot the /sarc tag.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 03:39 | 3201730 cpzimmon
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Me too.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 06:14 | 3201829 Frankie Carbone
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This author is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. I mean, he's out there, if you know what I mean. Cukos. Absolutely delusional.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 07:35 | 3201869 neidermeyer
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Yeah , staging military exercises with helicopter gunships over major cities like Miami really helps... while Nancy Pelosi sneaks language banning all guns "with a pistol grip" into her draft legislation ... making 200,000,000 of us that own any handgun instant felons.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 08:29 | 3201924 stant
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better keepum seperated,

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 08:36 | 3201930 Banksters
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Bankster Immunity from prosecution

Downing st memo


Money Laundering drug cartel cash

Market Manipulation

Iran Contra


Gulf of Tonkin

Yeah, it is all in my head.




Thu, 01/31/2013 - 12:31 | 3202694 e2thex
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Psssst. There is someone on the other side of your mirror. Talk softer. They are recording you.

Sat, 02/02/2013 - 04:16 | 3208759 RafterManFMJ
Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:50 | 3201179 devo
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Embarrassing article.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:01 | 3201182 wisefool
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Last week, this same person, explained to the american people on the sunday talk shows. (The MSM stuff at minimum level of political information) that: "a Budjet control framework is the same thing as having a budget" (sic mine)

To paraphrase a certain career New York Senator, “Mr. Government, get to work!”  Or better yet, get out of the way.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:51 | 3201183 zorba THE GREEK
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This is describing all my friends on ZH.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:06 | 3201223 Deacon Frost
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Conspiratorial thinking should be the default frame of mind.

After all, it only takes one person to form a conspiracy, what about an entire government apparatus?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:17 | 3201412 DaveyJones
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the default form of most crime that has any level of sophistication above shoplifting usual involves a "conspiracy." It only demonstrates ignorance to use it as criticism.  

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:28 | 3201448 Cdad
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I'm not at all convinced that Chindit set out to criticize "conspiracy theories" with this piece.  You might want to check your confirmation bias, and think about the article more broadly.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:57 | 3201510 DaveyJones
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 word choice  - double message

"Collectively, though individually they differ, the beliefs of the Fringe include a conspiracy behind the JFK assassination, a faked moon landing, and the current favorite: that 911 was an “inside” job. The collective also includes the Birthers, and those who believe in everything from FEMA Camps to chemtrails to that retro old favorite of Colonel Jack Ripper, fluoridation. (Those unfamiliar with these terms should Google them for more information than one might care to have.) The Fringe holds beliefs that have the world controlled variously by the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, the Council on Foreign Relations, 33rd Degree Freemasons, the Vatican, the Queen of England, or just The Illuminati."

Notice the list and more important, the placement. He clearly embraces a classic and safe money move conspiracy in the article but his main goal is to simulatenously maintain a safe distance from those "crazy" criminal resource war and flase flag "theories."

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:00 | 3201535 Cdad
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Correct...people are reacting to "word choice."

But as folks go knee jerking wild with their comments, they are not thinking about two things:

a) Who is the intended target audience for this article?

b)  What is its intent?

Com'mon my brothers....think about it.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:25 | 3201593 Fred C Dobbs
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How about an excuse to take away their guns?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:44 | 3201622 Cdad
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The government does not need an excuse to take your guns from you.  It needs votes in the House and Senate.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 05:03 | 3201786 Fred C Dobbs
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And controlling the message/reality helps them get those votes.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 06:02 | 3201820 UP Forester
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Might I add a death wish and full-backing of all UN troops for the manpower?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 08:22 | 3201915 Henry Hub
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With the votes in the House and Senate plus a certain percentage of the States the Government could completely repeal the Second Amendment. A lot of people think gun ownership as an inalienable right. But the 18th Amendment (prohibition of alcohol) was annulled by the 21st. So to the 2ed could be annulled by another Amendment. This is only theoretical possible but not political possible at this time. In the future, who knows?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:14 | 3202002 Urban Redneck
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Too many people, too much effort for da pimp to keep all the ho's in line.

The simplest recipe for the wizard behind the curtain is dynamic judicial interpretation, eliminating a single Supreme Court precedent, and abrogating the Constitution by treaty.

A much shorter and cheaper list of ingredients-

5 Supreme Court Justices +

1 Secretary of State +

1 President +

67 Senators =

74 whores

Whether they are brought on board by ideological sympathy, financial incentive, intellectual subterfuge, or a good old slap upside the bitch's head is only a minor tactical detail...


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:06 | 3202119 Tall Tom
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You had best read the Ninth Amendment.


Amendment 21 did not annul Amendment 18. The enumeration, where Amendments appear, cannot be construed in that fashion.


But who follows the Constitution?


Sorry to inform you with the truth and to confuse you with the facts.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:35 | 3202201 Henry Hub
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OK you don't like the word annul. How about repeal

From Wikipedia:

The Twenty-first Amendment (Amendment XXI) to the United States Constitution repealed the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which had mandated nationwide Prohibition on alcohol on January 17, 1920. The Twenty-first amendment was ratified on December 5, 1933. It is unique among the 27 Amendments of the U.S. Constitution for being the only one to repeal a previous Amendment, and for being the only one to have been ratified by the method of the state ratifying convention.

"Sorry to inform you with the truth and to confuse you with the facts."

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 12:01 | 3202579 Tall Tom
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They cannot be repealed. It takes a Constitutional Convention to do that.


Read the Ninth Amendment!!!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:34 | 3201603 wisefool
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Tyler(s) needs to bring the strikethrough pen out again. (sarcasim indicator on post titles.) Even before this article, new people weren't getting it. After this article ... well ... we have a new signature on our FRNs.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:38 | 3201606 akak
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What is its intent?

To judge from both the title and the content, the intent of the article was to equate the growing number of people who have woken up to, mistrust, and despise the self-serving, sociopathic actions of the oligarchy who rule over us as a mere "lunatic fringe".  I take umbrage at such a grossly inaccurate mischaracterization of many millions of honest and (mostly) highly intelligent people.

If that was NOT the intent of the article, then please enlighten us as to what YOU feel its intent was.  Because it sure came across to me, after two complete readings, as a broad-brushing hatchet job on anyone who would dare criticize or condemn the powers-that-be.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:49 | 3201633 Cdad
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You skipped the first question I posed.  

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:51 | 3201634 IamtheREALmario
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It may be designed to elicit and guage the response. Which would imply that the Tylers are complicit.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:58 | 3202314 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

If that was NOT the intent of the article, then please enlighten us as to what YOU feel its intent was.  Because it sure came across to me, after two complete readings, as a broad-brushing hatchet job on anyone who would dare criticize or condemn the powers-that-be.

I think you might want to reconsider what Cdad said. You are an intelligent "US 'american' citizen" and, as such, I would blame any misinterpretation on the author's somewhat awkward word choices and a writing style which, in some places, begs for clarification.

Cdad asked:

a) Who is the intended target audience for this article?

b)  What is its intent?

The article, at least to me, appears to be targeting the "watchers" (those who, on the taxpayer dime, are on the lookout for thoughtcrime and monitor sites where free-thinking individuals congregate).

The intent? I'd say it's to point out that the endless fraud, crime, war, and lies that TPTB have been propagating are collapsing the system upon itself, and to warn them that the only path out is to come clean, stop the lies, and face the music.

But then, what do I know?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:45 | 3201607 tip e. canoe
Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:45 | 3201621 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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The first 7 or so paragraphs made my blood boil. The rest seemed like a justification for (most of) our beliefs. To me, it seemed like a  sophisticated rope a dope to lure in fascists then destroy their fucked up way of thinking. Then again, it's late and although I've been cruising these pages for a few years, I'm not familiar with this chindt individual.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:46 | 3201625 Cdad
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Same here...on Chindit.  I don't know any history on him.

But...on the ropa dope...I believe you are on to something.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:47 | 3201626 Cdad
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Thu, 01/31/2013 - 16:23 | 3203732 chindit13
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Very nice.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:48 | 3201629 tip e. canoe
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tinfoil p.s. log off your gmail before you click

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 04:01 | 3201740 JOYFUL
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spend a bit of time scrolling through the archives for his stuff...

you'll have your answer...the guy was full-on one they had, pick o the crop, special insert for the ZH platform...

went down in flames after we nailed his christian-sionist schtick.

Believe it or not, don't matter to me, but this guy was not writing tongue n cheek...though Tylers letting have a platform prolly was!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 15:37 | 3203526 DaveyJones
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Probably so. Knowing the author affected my interpretation. Then again, you do that with authors 

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:05 | 3201382 Freddie
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This is describing all my friends on ZH.

They is (mainly) good people.   Come on all you ***ers who hate me - junk me.  Is that the best you can do?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:52 | 3201187 dick cheneys ghost
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How many lies does it take to maintain a DEBT MONEY ponzi scheme?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:56 | 3201196 GNWT
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1.  health care will make it better

2.  you can trust banks

3.  The education system is effective

4.  the government is enforcing the law

5.  the constitution is our guiding document

6.  market price discovery is fair

so, far

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:13 | 3201239 Lucius Corneliu...
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7. Building 7 was not a controlled demolition.  Fire caused its collapse.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:21 | 3201263 A Lunatic
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And Federal buildings always explode from both the inside AND outside when ANFO is the source of the detonation. A thorough investigation always includes quickly scooping up the debris and throwing it in the fucking ocean too. The ocean is also a great place to throw the bodies of Amerkas most wanted Terrorists. If the Ocean isn't handy a proper investigation dictates a big fucking fire, like in WACO for example...........

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:35 | 3201303 in4mayshun
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And banks accept pallets of $100 dollar bills in Latin America from drug dealers purely by accident and the USGov doesn't know a thing about it.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:26 | 3201437 DaveyJones
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and large airliners can be flown with never before seen accuracy by Cessna idiots into holes thirty feet wide and leave little to no trace of the crash while keeping the lawn so pristine even Martha Stewart would be proud. It was such an amazing circus performance that the authorities seized every inch of camera footage only to release a few seconds which proved nothing. Guess they're waiting to sell it on ebay for big bucks. God knows they need the money 

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:50 | 3201631 NumberNone
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Here's something...our friends the 'banks' are trying to drive us to a purely cashless world.  There is very soon going to come a day when cash will be removed completely from the system and controlling someone will be as simple as cutting off their access to money for them and everyone around them.  

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 20:02 | 3204457 mkhs
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Very paranoid, but when they are out to get you, true.


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:42 | 3201489 Pseudo Anonym
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8. there's plenty, no, lots of gold in fort knox

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:47 | 3202282 thedrickster
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A nearly symmetric collapse into its footprint at near free-fall acceleration, which the BBC reported before the actual collapse?


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:54 | 3201637 IamtheREALmario
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7+. We are tireless servants of the people who deserve your honor and respect

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:24 | 3201438 Curiously_Crazy
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Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:27 | 3201450 Cdad
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...per day?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 20:03 | 3204471 mkhs
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Per douglas Adams.  RIP

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:54 | 3201193 grunk
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A little snarky.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:31 | 3201294 e_goldstein
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and after stating the obvious the tool who wrote it still turns to government.


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:55 | 3201194 Westcoastliberal
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Just a guess but I'd say your lunatic description fits most of the people who regularly visit this website (especially MDB).

But gotta say it, a "conspiracy theory" is no longer a theory if it's true.  And for major "turnings" such as the JFK, RFK, and MLK assasinations, one was proven in court to be just that, rather than the "one lone nut" theory; the jury's still out on the other two.

Regarding 911, c'mon, man get with the program! Too many smarter folks than me have proven it could not have happened according to the official story...what does that leave us with.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:08 | 3201230 Woodyg
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Conspiracy FACT

Is what many of those things are the author denegrates.

The true lunatic fringe are those that believe 9-11 was Only done by a few guys' in caves half way around the world, no international financing conspiring applies(what the hell are the interlocking corporate boards)

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:05 | 3201367 akak
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No, actually the worst, and most dangerous, lunatics are those who naively hold faith and trust in authority, no matter how manifestly corrupt and self-serving, and who hold that institutionalized coercion, i.e., government, is fundamentally benevolent and should be the primary guiding force of society.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:20 | 3201425 RebelDevil
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i.e. Christian, Jewish, and Muslim Fundamentalists - The wack jobs who think it's the good will of "God" for a father to attempt to kill his son.

Oh, and remember: Lloyd Blankfiend is also doing "God's Work".

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:20 | 3201431 zorba THE GREEK
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Akak....++++++++1000- Very profound and very true. Zorba bows to you.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 12:30 | 3202709 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

No, actually the worst, and most dangerous, lunatics are those who naively hold faith and trust in authority, no matter how manifestly corrupt and self-serving, and who hold that institutionalized coercion, i.e., government, is fundamentally benevolent and should be the primary guiding force of society.

Preach on, bro!

I couldn't have put it any better myself.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:17 | 3202159 Tall Tom
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RFK Head Wound had Powder Burns. Sirhan could not have got that close. Furthermore there were too many bullets fired for one gun. There must have been two shooters.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 20:15 | 3204493 mkhs
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Facts, facts.  Are you going to believe your lying eyes or me?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:57 | 3201197 EmmittFitzhume
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How can anyone disregard anything these days?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:58 | 3201200 Wjunk
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Ah, a sane voice for a change.  If you want people to rate your article well, however, you'll need to blame something on the Jews.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:01 | 3201214 GNWT
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correct, you are an astute zh-vocate...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:24 | 3201281 otto skorzeny
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google MP David Ward Holocaust to see the latest Zionist news

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:59 | 3201209 GNWT
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What truly exacerbated the rush to the fringe was the Financial Crisis and the subsequent railroaded bailouts, which “democratic” America opposed to the tune of 97%, and which were, and still are viewed as rewarding the very people who caused the collapse.


"Viewed" as, dude, really.  I vew a bank robbery and I identify the criminal.  Talk about 

mental slaves.


Hey, Tylers, this dude needs some Fight Club re-education.

What truly exacerbated the rush was Gold and Silver rising 1,000%.99% can't do that, only the who are the lunatics, the first ones at the bank in a run or the last??????

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