The Rise Of America's Lunatic Fringe

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Authored by chindit

The Rise Of America's Lunatic Fringe

Anyone who spends any amount of time on the internet has seen them.

They are the moonbats, the wingnuts, the whackjobs, the Conspiratorialists.  They are America’s new Lunatic Fringe, and their numbers are growing.

While the rise of the internet fed a segment of society that has always existed, when the cyberworld became an increasingly important source both of entertainment and information, an entirely new demographic joined what was already amongst us.

Who are they and what do they believe?  The Lunatic Fringe is not uniform in either its background or beliefs.  Some clearly seem to be emotionally disturbed.  Some are racist and hateful.  Others are simply naïve and gullible, or uninformed.  Still more are frustrated by an economy and a government that are behaving out of whack with what most people expected from life and from leadership.  They want to believe America stands for something noble, but it is increasingly felt by them that it does not.  They are confused, frustrated, and disappointed.  They feel violated and betrayed.  They grow angrier by the day.  Some harbor a diffuse rage which could blow at any time. Others have figuratively thrown in the towel and have joined the ranks of what are called Preppers and Survivalists.

Collectively, though individually they differ, the beliefs of the Fringe conspiracies behind the JFK assassination, the lunar landing, and 911.  The collective also includes the Birthers, and believers in everything from FEMA Camps to chemtrails to that retro old favorite of Colonel Jack Ripper, fluoridation.  The Fringe holds beliefs that have the world controlled variously by the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, the Council on Foreign Relations, 33rd Degree Freemasons, the Vatican, the Queen of England, or just The Illuminati.  Every event and every incident in the world is affected by some Master Plan carried out by whomever the believer chooses from the aforementioned gallery of rogues.  For many, al Qaeda is really al CIAda, and the prime directive of that organization, along with all the other USG alphabet agencies, is to further the goals of the elite, usually through some “false flag” operation or “psy-op”, and funded through illicit drug sales.

Believers can “prove” each and every one of their claims via a series of cross-referenced and circular internet links, the source of many undoubtedly just someone’s fertile imagination, but very real to the believers.

To the uninitiated this all seems rather humorous, albeit slightly unsettling.  It would be both wrong and unwise, however, just to slough it off as the ramblings of the insane.  The reason such beliefs are gaining favor is because many Americans have lost faith and lost trust in the government and America’s elected leadership.  Given what has happened over the last decade, this is not only understandable, it is even, in an odd way, reasonable.  A continual drift to the fringe can be expected because of the many very real things that make the foolish things suddenly more believable.

Why have the people lost faith and trust?  There is a host of reasons, perhaps beginning with the war of choice in Iraq and the vociferous and passionate claims of WMD that turned out to be false.  That war cost lives, cost sympathy and diplomatic capital, and cost trillions even when America was told by former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz that the war “would pay for itself from oil sales” and that “Americans would be welcomed with garlands”.  Neither was anything close to accurate.  Instead the US has war dead, war wounded, a huge bill, fewer friends, and many more enemies.

What truly exacerbated the rush to the fringe were the Financial Crisis and the subsequent railroaded bailouts, which “democratic”
America opposed to the tune of 97%, and which were, and still are viewed as rewarding the very people who caused the collapse.  The oft-spoken official claims that “the taxpayer made a profit on the bailouts” just adds salt to the taxpayers’ wounds, as it conveniently fails to take into account the host of programs---from TALF to ZIRP to QEI, II, and III and Twist---that virtually handed the banks the money with which they could “pay back” the bailout cash.

America sees backroom deals and favors to insiders every step of the way, and rightfully so they see this, because that is exactly how the bailout was affected.  No one had to pay for his mistakes, and equally significant, no one has been prosecuted despite overwhelming evidence of fraud, malfeasance, and corruption.  Americans cannot help but subscribe to the cynical quip, “everyone is equal under the law, except for those who are above it”.  Fines don't count, especially when the money to pay them comes right back through another door.

America's prisons are filled with people who did little more than use a banned substance.  It's time some bankers and officials faced the possibility of similar accommodations, as their crimes are greater and victims substantially more.

The belief that all is not fair is further cemented when the Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer can be taped (PBS, “Frontline”) saying, "Well, I think I am pursuing justice. And I think the entire responsibility of the department is to pursue justice. But in any given case, I think I and prosecutors around the country, being responsible, should speak to regulators, should speak to experts, because if I bring a case against institution A, and as a result of bringing that case, there’s some huge economic effect — if it creates a ripple effect so that suddenly, counterparties and other financial institutions or other companies that had nothing to do with this are affected badly — it’s a factor we need to know and understand."

No matter how one parses that quote it still says the same thing: some are above the law.

The American people are well aware they have been lied to by the leadership.  They know that a lobbyist has an infinitely greater chance of getting his way than an entire nation of voters.  They know who pays the bills---the taxpayer---as well as who pays the politicians---the lobbyists.  They see the Federal Debt ballooning to Greek-like proportions, and the best Congress can do, other than take vacation or kick the can, is to tell Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke to “get to work, Mr. Chairman”, which means print more money, monetize the deficit, and further dilute the value of the dollar.

Even some people within the government are undoubtedly growing frustrated.  Imagine someone in DEA, FBI, CIA, or the military, who sees the slap on the wrist fine handed to a certain non-US bank for a decade or more of drug money laundering and laundering money for Iran, some of which might well have found its way to Hezbollah or to parties aiding the Iraqi insurgency.  There are people in Waziristan who face the wrath of a drone-fired Hellfire missile with less evidence to back up the attack.  This bank, incidentally, received a $3.5 billion payment-in-full upon the US taxpayer bailout of insurer AIG.

When trust is gone, everything becomes an affront, a conspiracy, a power grab by the elite.  The recently passed National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which gives the President incredibly broad powers, seems to obviate both habeas corpus and the entire Bill of Rights.  When the trust is gone, people are less willing to believe that such a bill would never be used recklessly, or vindictively to put down vocal opponents of whatever Administration happens to be in power at the time.  When trust is gone, the people question new efforts to alter the Second Amendment, even if many are personally outraged at the rash of gun violence that has come to epitomize the United States, so they rush to guns rather than run from them.  When the trust is gone, the message of the Lunatic Fringe is afforded greater reception.  When the trust is gone the Fringe grows into the mainstream.  When trust is gone in some aspects of governance, all governance is questioned.

The government can no longer afford to ignore the Lunatic Fringe, because it is becoming less loon and more understandably and righteously indignant every day.  The government did not create the Fringe, but through callous disregard, incompetence, blatant self-interest, cronyism, selective enforcement, and pandering to its financial support base, the government has fertilized the fringe until it has grown to redwood-like size.  The nation's leadership is viewed not with respect, but with distrust.  It is not the solution, but the problem.  It has morphed from friend to enemy, at least for a not insignificant portion of the citizenry.   The fringe is not going to go away, but instead it will grow.  Its wounds will fester.  It will continue to hammer away at an already fragile society.  It may well lead to significant social unrest, even violence, and that violence is likely to be directed at those seen as responsible for the fiscal, financial and moral decay, which means the elite and the government that is seen as catering to it.  New records in the Dow will not alter the focus, nor ameliorate the bubbling rage, even if the financial media or the Federal Reserve thinks it will.  This growing demographic of citizens must have its concerns addressed before it is too late.

Woe to those who ignore it, because they will become the targets, rightfully or not.

To paraphrase a certain career New York Senator, “Mr. Government, get to work!”  Or better yet, get out of the way.

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All Risk No Reward's picture

2.5 PPM is correlated to a 7% reduction in IQ and a 3.5 PPM is correlated with an increase in mental retardation from 3% to over 22%.

That's a Harvard study, people.  If you want to see the actual results, Google Scholar the title of the article and the first link should be a ",doc" file with the relevant data I cited above.

The gang bankster minions in government approached the EPA and asked them to approve 4 PPM!

Read the document.  It is fascinating and well documented.

Compare that document to anything presented by the trillion dollar "establishment" and its efforts to promote fluoride.  They can't put together a document like that because their case is based on fallacies, not reality.

Funny how "conspiracy theorists' cite the research and present their sources while the "non conspiratorial" establishment rely on logical fallacies like appeal to authority and appeal to popularity to support their views.

Learn the fallacies, people.

42 Fallacies

You can't identify what you don't know exists.

Perhaps the most important lesson I learned in government social engineering camp was in 3rd grade.  I answered a math problem with the answer and submitted my work.  My teacher returned the paper and marked the answer wrong.  I was stunned because the answer was right.  She responded...

"I don't care what your answer is, I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU ARRIVED AT THAT ANSWER."

When you start asking people HOW THEY ARRIVED AT A GIVEN ANSWER, you will find out that many people know absolutely nothing about it other than some "authority" (well financed and promoted by the money defining and creating class, no doubt) told them it was true.  In other words, they know nothing.

I'll close quoting Eisenhower:

"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money (money defining and money creating class is the pinnacle of the "power of money" that is to be gravely regarded) is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."

tip e. canoe's picture

i had a 2nd grade teacher like that.    best education i ever received.   interesting how certain small apparently insignificant events resonate in the consciousness.    i bet ya there's a bunch of adults running around NYC that have similar memories about Mr. Gatto.

Dapper Dan's picture

Critical Thinking


Even the Schools do not encourage Critical thinking. For Science Fairs they don't want new ideas, they want you to do something from a book or a web site.

Non Passaran's picture

As far as I can tell chindit doesn't deny the manipulation.
He denies the existence elaborate & contradictory conspiracy theories.
The politicians and banksters sure manipulate the market.
Who wouldn't? They're doing it because they can. It's simple.
In order to get reelected, why wouldn't I sell my services to the whoever?
That's a no brainer choice for psychopaths. Still, not a conspiracy.

Gimp's picture

FutureWorld - "If  you have an opinion or a single thought, you're probably a terrorist, turn yourself in now"

Dr. Bonzo's picture

Yo ZH... if I wanted to read Huffpo, I'd just go read Huffpo. Who the fuck is in charge of editorial content around here, cause you jus dun drop the motherfucking ball son.

I'd be really interested to hear from someone in-house what the justification was for posting this fucking claptrap here.


ZeroAvatar's picture

Dr. Bonzo sed:  "what the justification was for posting this fucking claptrap here."


People are always searching for new ideas to write about.  Denninger steals at least 1/2 his ideas for his content from ZH.  This particular clown may have read the thread yesterday about 'Thrive' and 'Thrive Debunked' (I went immediately to the latter) and decided to write a piece on 'debunking'.


I can give specific examples that I have noticed that looked like 'lifted' ideas, but, you get the point.


Original material and ideas are getting ever-increasingly hard to come by.  A lot of stuff I read anymore is just the same old shit, rehashed.

ebear's picture

Basically, everything's disappeared.

Son of Loki's picture

Bend over (again) taxpayers and grab the Vaseline:


For some homeowners, March 1 will be Liberation Day. That’s when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will start allowing some homeowners who have been stuck in their homes—unable to move because they owe more than the property is worth—to relinquish the houses and cancel their debt.


Who gonna pay for all this?

Neethgie's picture

i have to say its about time zerohedge did this, for the sake of the information it imparts, many of the lunatic fringe (if thats now a term, i prefer conspiracy theorists - doesn't imply mental illness) ruin these comment pages with pure rubbish that detracts from the articles, and makes zerohedge seem unreliable as a source.

Look if you want to know something, know only this, conspiracy theorists are getting robbed and abused by people like alex jones its a very easy scam..

"psst you are smarter than everyone else" thats all they have to say, to get people of below par intellect to want in on their material as it gives them an illusory superiority.

and honesty its not crazy to think conspiracies with how far away government has gone from peoples control, i know im going to get red flags for this, but im glad this article got wrote if you want lunacy go back to alex jones.

Neethgie's picture

go back to alex jones, you don't belong here


Neethgie.  You don't know shit from shinola, so you telling people where to go may not be our best use for you.  How long have you been here?  As a pathetic newb that is still just waking up it might be best if you were to shut the fuck up.   The list of guest on the Alex jones show that were warning people prior to the crash and long before my favorite web site ZH, is a long list indeed.  You are afraid of the truth or you are a gatekeeper like our old friend chindit.   

Neethgie's picture

Ive been here ages, and ive never seen anyone outside the comments talk about alex jones, hes not a reliable source on anything.

What he is is entertaining and appealing to some tinfoilers, they buy his shite and he keeps going.

All Risk No Reward's picture

>>hes not a reliable source on anything<<

He's right on fluoride - the EPA scientist union opposes water fluroidation and Harvard came ot with a study showing a correlation between 2.5 and 3.5 PPM lfluoride in the water and serious neurological damage... from 7 IQ points vaporized to a 700% increase inmental retardation.  I posted the links in a previous post - search my name and you'll get the links.

This sourced fact makes you, sir, a proven liar.  Your use of ad hominem logical fallacy is deceptive and dishonest.

Alex is right on some things and he's wrong on others.

For example, he never predicted the President would claim the right to murder American citizens without any evidence or a trial.

Alex was simply "too extreme" to be able to predict such a reasonable and logical change in law was coming down the pike.

That was sarcasm, BTW, just in case it wen tover your head.

mkhs's picture

Damn.  Someone hacked the records.  They changed ages to 29 weeks.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Speaking of fallacies, this, ladiy and gentlemen of ZeroHedge, is an example of ad hominem logical fallacy where the person is attacked and not the argument itself.

Sometimes it is done of ignorance and sometimes it is done to try and avoid the argument itself because it can't be attacked on its merits.

Tall Tom's picture

Cool. You point the FALLACIOUS attack out and use it as a demonstration. Good method.

RebelDevil's picture

Great point. So we can say that the "lunatic fringe" dicussed in the article are really just Randroids, the extremely paranoid (Alex Jones), the fantastists (David Icke), and the fraudsters (Benjamin Fullford).

There's a big difference between them, and rational conspiracy theorists.

SamAdams's picture

I know you're out there!  You're in hiding, but you won't get too far...

Remember when you first heard that song?  You never thought it would apply to your well mannered American self.  Welcome to Amerika...  I, with your help, intend to take it back!

Disenchanted's picture

For those who haven't heard it...

Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe


Along those same lines, another prescient song from the 1980s:

Mike & The Mechanics - Silent Running


Teach the children quietly

for some day sons and daughters

will rise up and fight

while we stood still

mkhs's picture

Don't believe the church and state, ...

agrotera's picture

Keen work Chindit! Hope all is well for you and yours!


DavidPierre's picture

SmokeyQuinn, chinshit !!!

"This is dedicated to the ones I love"!

9/11 Is the Litmus Test!


Both just TOOLS !



chindit13's picture

It's a litmus test.  About that we agree 100%.  And there I'll leave it.

chindit13's picture

agrotera, good to see some of the old souls popping up!  All is well.  I have left my former residence for a place that makes that old post seem like a 5th Avenue apartment with a concierge.  A wonderful challenge, which is (in my opinion) what life is all about.  I'm not sure even Voyager 1 has reached here yet.  In fact, I'm two bus transfers further out than Zerohedge's Honest Ann and enjoying the spoils of war.  And truth be known, I have as much desire to steer clear of the vocal membership here as I do the PTB.  I find both equally exasperating.  Tyler, however, remains The Bomb (I'll bet that term is out of style).  I still get in my fifty good belly-laughs per day.  It's the best prescription for an enjoyable life.  Take care.

Prairie Dog's picture

Er, isn't this their web site?

Cheyenne's picture

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Here is what that “Conspiratorialist” Catherine Austin Fitts, a partner and board member at Dillon Read and the Asst. Sec’y of Housing under Bush 41, had to say--fully 10 years ago--about articles like this one:


“We do not have time to pay attention to people who use smears like ‘conspiracy theorist’ to waste our time. Money, budgets, finance—these are all facts. If something does not work, and it continues to not work, there is a reason. Systems have a logic. They have a rationale. Money helps explain and illuminate that rationale. 


“Anyone who would smear a serious researcher or writer for trying to understand where a great deal of money is disappearing to as a ‘conspiracy theorist’ is someone who would never be taken seriously or associated with in the circles in which I travel. The exception is if the person doing the smearing is a professional being paid to smear those who have the scent of ‘the real deal’ - Cointelpro or related public relations.


“The number of people paid to do such things are many and growing.”

Fix It Again Timmy's picture

Speaking of the government and how they ALWAYS have our best interest in mind - prior to WWII, the Soviet Union required that all short-wave radios had to be registered.  On June 23rd, 1941 the day after Germany attacked Russia, government agents were sent out to confiscate short-wave radios. REGistration, yeah right - hahahahaha, stop it, you're killing me....

Cdad's picture

The trust of the American people shall not be restored...until such time as the bankers responsible for the criminal looting of this nation's assets, as well as the debasement of its currency, are prosecuted and jailed.  Until such time as this occurs, capital formation is dead.  This is a logical response to the facts at hand.

Is it any wonder that the criminal syndicate known as Wall Street requires $85 billion per month in debauched USDs?  The banking system of this country must be allowed to fail, finally.  Stop the printing presses, Mr. Bernanke.  Perverting both the equity and bond markets with this continued intervention is not a solution...but rather it is theft.

Fringe Cdad

Tall Tom's picture

We will NOT have a sustainable recovery without TRUST. My wealth has been extracted and will remain so until I see a substantial movement toward restoration of that trust. I am certain that I do not act alone.


I think I wrote that yeasterday on this blog.

Prairie Dog's picture

You forgot to mention the Bernanke-Geithner-Krugman conspiracy to Destroy The US through irresponsible money creation, the imminence of hyperinflation and gold going to $5,000 tomorrow.


tony bonn's picture

thank you for my daily dose of goat shit from the cia...i am glad to see that they are sufficiently alarmed to send some pea brained hack out to tell me that i am lunatic....but the lunatic, my dear spooky control freak, is in your mind....go fuck yourself cunt...

chindit13's picture


Profoundest apologies for striking a dissonant chord in the echo chamber.   Big Mama Tyler will come by in a jiffy to tuck you under your tin foil blanket and give you your David Icke Bobble-head to cuddle.  And just remember, everybody who doesn’t dream all of your dreams cannot possibly be awake.  Repeat after me ten thousand times---though in point of fact it must now be up to a full lakh on this site---“Anyone with more than two brain cells knows 911 was an inside job”.  And let not one voice, not a one, state the opposite in return.  That would be….arrogantly shillish.  Echoes only, please.


Prairie Dog's picture

Oh sorry, gold going to $5,000 tomorrow is in another article. So we're covered.


rlouis's picture

Left out that Al Gore is a reptillian alien.


PS Can I get one of those tin foil hats on ebay?

ebear's picture

Probably, but I wouldn't recommend it.  Tinfoil hats actually concentrate the mind control rays - they don't shield against them at all.  Look no further than the people wearing them for proof of this.

Tall Tom's picture

Gold Foil hats are much more effective. You ought to try that. Gold is such a good Electromagnetic Radiation Reflector. It is the most efficient shield. Seriously. You have to get one. Shape it like a Faraday Cage.


Turn off the damned Television while you are at it.

gould&#039;s fisker's picture

I'm not going to be coy like alot of the posters above--where do i order my tinfoil hat, I'll pay for it.  Cause it'll be alot easier to do that than swallow the prevailing view (i.e., reality) being peddled by the msm outlets or the fed--like the economy just lost a little momentum because there was a percentage drop in the tons of fed-zirped-qe'd liquidity being fed into the markets.  And most everybody just nods and shuffles forward like the invasion of the body snatchers, instead of wondering, geeze what happens when the other trillion annually being pumped in gets shut off, I wonder.  When did they start growing us all in the back yard, huh? Like if we're quiet we'll all get our social security or other fed program pay off because the other guy won't--he'll be the one that gets fucked.  We'll all be fucked or in tinfoil hats eventually.

A Lunatic's picture

People are a lot like chickens. Once darkness falls you can actually walk around picking up chickens by hand. They won't even try to get away. I've see the stupid fucking things sit there quietly while a weasel walks around in the coop sniffing out the best one to eat. Darkness is falling............

Dewey Cheatum Howe's picture

You can also pluck them.

"Stalin called for a live chicken and proceeded to use it to make an unforgettable point before some of his henchmen. Forcefully clutching the chicken in one hand, with the other he began to systematically pluck out its feathers. As the chicken struggled in vain to escape, he continued with the painful denuding until the bird was completely stripped. “Now you watch,” Stalin said as he placed the chicken on the floor and walked away with some bread crumbs in his hand. Incredibly, the fear-crazed chicken hobbled toward him and clung to the legs of his trousers. Stalin threw a handful of grain to the bird, and it began to follow him around the room, he turned to his dumbfounded colleagues and said quietly, “This is the way to rule the people. Did you see how that chicken followed me for food, even though I had caused it such torture? People are like that chicken. If you inflict inordinate pain on them they will follow you for food the rest of their lives.”"

Ravi Zacharias, Can Man Live Without God, (Word Publ., Dallas: 1994), pp. 26-27

akak's picture

That is a great story --- aside from the fact that it is essentially impossible to pluck a live chicken.

Likstane's picture

Have you ever tried it?  It sounds reasonable.  I'm just askin'

akak's picture

Inadvertently, yes I have --- and it is no fun at all, for either the plucker or the pluckee.

However, I have plucked my share of chickens in the usual manner, which necessarily includes a thorough dipping into near-boiling water in order to loosen the feathers from the skin.  Even then, if the (dearly departed) chicken is not dipped long enough or thoroughly enough, one will have feathers that are VERY difficult to remove --- and some, such as the wing feathers, will always be quite difficult to pluck even with this hot-water treatment.

Likstane's picture

I will never again question your chicken-pluckin' prowess.

akak's picture

Plucking the feathers is the most tedious part of butchering chickens, but believe me, disemboweling them is certainly the least fun part (especially when you forgot to not feed them the day before and their intestines are still full of .... stuff.)

And yes, when their heads are cut off, they DO "run around like chickens with their heads cut off" --- although it is more of a spastic jumping-and-flopping-around kind of thing than actual running.  The blood that (initially) sprays several feet out from their severed necks is an added bonus (at least, my husky thinks so).

Likstane's picture

I'll drive one up from Anchortown this summer and you can show me.  I'm too squeamish to try it myself without seeing it done first!

akak's picture

It's really not all that bad --- if you can clean a salmon, you can butcher a chicken.


(But, I am not particularly squeamish.)