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Santelli Blasts Bernanke: "Whatever You're Doing, It Isn't Working"

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While some would look at the surge in government spending in Q3 last year (ahead of the election) and subsequent plunge in Q4 as conspiratorial, CNBC's Rick Santelli takes a step slightly further back as he draws the analogy between the mystical monetary experimentation of Ben Bernanke and his horde of central bank cronies and the "bloodletting of leeching" of medieval medicine providers. The point being that if you were sick in the middle ages, leeches were applied; and if you returned weeks later (still sick), more leeches and blood-letting took place - with no lesson learned. The fact that we borrowed $300bn in Q4 and managed a dismally dire drop in GDP growth offers little hope as the world glares agog at the Dow Jones Industrial Average index while Bernanke, six years on from the start of the recession continues to apply the same medicine that has done nothing to resurrect our economy. In Rick's words, "Whatever you're doing; It isn't working!" and in fact the monetary support could potentially hurt the economy in the medium-term as debt piles up exponentially. An epic rant...


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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:37 | 3200095 DoChenRollingBearing
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<--- Santelli > Bernanke

<--- Bernanke > Santelli

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:38 | 3200113 King_of_simpletons
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Bernanke has lost control of the economy. That is a fact. The rest is fluff.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:40 | 3200119 falak pema
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the fluff has lost control of Bernanke; that is a fact! 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:46 | 3200160 FL_Conservative
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Rick, PLEASE!!  Don't you see that market indeces have never been higher???  How can you say that all the money printing hasn't done anything???  It's not all about GDP or earnings and PE, you know.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:51 | 3200180 Supernova Born
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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:55 | 3200196 MillionDollarBonus_
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Today’s GDP figure was actually a result of Trickle Down Economics and deregulation, which Santelli supports. You idiots need to read a bit of economics and history before you pretend to understand the economy. Look up toxic derivatives and read up on the OWS movement. You morons have a lot to learn, I'm afraid.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:02 | 3200235 Gamma735
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Come on, Ben, fess up to being MDB.   Maybe change your login to TrillionDollarBonus.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:09 | 3200260 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Reminds me of a Steve Martin sketch from SNL:

Theodoric of York, Medieval Barber

"You'll feel much better after a good bloodletting."

"But I'm already bleeding..."

"Hey, who's the barber around here?"

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:53 | 3200578 Big Slick
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"You look familiar.  Do I know you?"

Belushi as the Humpback: "You worked on my back."

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:24 | 3200691 gould's fisker
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MDB could be in either party--only their scripts are different, but their backbiting dipshit economic rationale's are the same: it's the other guy's fault.  Both parties hope that you don't notice in the scrum that they are equally fucking incompentent where it concerns economic policy as they try to perpetuate the false premise that there's only two shitty choices.  We bitch about the public alot on this site, but give 'em the credit that tuning out of this dipshit dialogue is a rational choice.  Fuck you MDB and all who you represent.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:15 | 3202158 phalfa5
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OT...  Germany wants it's gold, why not send them a $1T coin or 2.  Shipping costs would be minimal, and I bet that they could have it within a month instead of multiple shipments over several years.  Added bonus - no need to figure out who/where it is and "clean up" the books.  The only real problem would be designing the coin and determining the "bust" that will grace the coin.  The Bernak?  BHO?  How about Alfred E. Newman and his famous quote "What?  Me Worry?"

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:11 | 3200269 FL_Conservative
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More like trillion$platinumcoin

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 21:47 | 3201000 californiagirl
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MillionDollarBonus, I can't figure out if you are a fraud-committing, criminal, socialist, moronic, elitist hypocrite, or if you are just getting your jollies by pushing the buttons of Zerohedge readers.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:18 | 3200200 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ Supernova Born, when it comes to GOLD:

BTFD!  BTFS!  Just buy it!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:51 | 3200181 LawsofPhysics
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Of course he knows, he is a trader.  Pushing paper, skimming a living while producing nothing of real value.  He is entertaining however.  Now where's my bread?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:06 | 3200252 astoriajoe
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next to the circus tickets on the table.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:33 | 3200515 Looney
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He is NOT a trader, you fucking dipshit!


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:53 | 3200188 Popo
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Hmm.. I just watched that video and didn't think Santelli was nearly bearish enough.   He seemed downright positive about the economy and the markets, and slightly miffed at Ben Bernanke.   Not sure what to make of these once-bears like Santelli and Bass that are increasingly bullish...



Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:04 | 3200242 lasvegaspersona
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popo new meme...ain't cha heard?

Oil from rocks will restore the country. All that worry about unpayable debt...that was just doomers selling advisory letters. Now, without explaining how the old meme (we are doomed) has been resolved, we are instructed to prepare for Obama's third term (because things will be so good every voter will get a pony and a blowjob). Apparently everything is OK now and the prior panic was just a test. Time to sell your gold, surrender your guns and love the coming utopia.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:55 | 3200385 LawsofPhysics
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can I get that blowjob upfront?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:26 | 3201447 astoriajoe
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If its in the back its not a blowjob.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:07 | 3200618 Stoploss
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Actually, what Bernanke's doing IS working.

The question is it intentionally being done? Or is he being told what to do??

Because if you want to put down a large swath of the population, this is exactly how you do that.


It is working flawlessly i might add.

Not too much longer now, we are nearing the home stretch.


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:52 | 3200164 TWSceptic
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He has been very succesful at his job, that is enriching the other banksters.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:29 | 3200318 WarHorse
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I'd love to know what readers of this site do for a living.  Seems to me many that post here have very little understanding of markets, derivatives and economics

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:32 | 3200712 AlaricBalth
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That's the second time this month you have pondered the vocations of members of ZH. Some are butchers. Some are bakers. Some are candlestick makers. Some are in the Biz and some are not. There are farmers, office workers, machinists, programmers and analysts. There are many traders and entrepreneurs. What difference does it make! We do not adhere to generic labels. We are all here to learn and we are all here to teach. Many know more about Economics than those I have interacted with in my career. They may not conform to the selected schools of economic thought sanctioned by the acolytes in Ivory Towers, but I have found that most everyone here brings something to the table.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 20:20 | 3200833 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Apparently WarHorse works down in the data mines.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 01:13 | 3201560 Navymugsy
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Do I need a fucking resume to post now WarHorse? Do I need to call you for approval before I snark? Dipshit.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:19 | 3202172 phalfa5
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@ warpony   u first ....   oh , and blo me


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:50 | 3200178 Gamma735
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Bernanke has a fluffer?  Is it little Timmy G?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:17 | 3200287 Ms. Erable
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Nope. Krugman.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:05 | 3200246 Silver Bug
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As always, Santelli is spot on. This is the definition of insanity.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:11 | 3200263 trader1
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your statement assumes the bernank had control in the first place...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:31 | 3200326 RichardP
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Early on, Bernanke admitted that he was in uncharted territory.  I think he never claimed to know how to fix the problem.  He was just interested in trying to keep things from getting worse.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:11 | 3200265 DrkPurpleHaze
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Or....Bernanke is in full control and knows exactly what he is doing, that is usurping for his controllers and the .001%

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 20:04 | 3200792 Law97
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Follow the money.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:13 | 3200271 NotApplicable
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He never had control of the economy, just the world's biggest magic checkbook.

To state that he "lost control" only empowers his ability to destroy further as you add to the fiction.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:18 | 3200293 PAWNMAN
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You mean the illusion of control don't you?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:20 | 3200300 tbd108
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He never had control. He is just a half-witted shill for the London/New York banksters.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:23 | 3200478 ATM
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He is just not doing enough!


That's what we will be told anywys. What the Bernenk is doing isn;t working so the scale of his non-working plan must be increased by magnitudes to really work!


Isn't that right Paul Krugman?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:48 | 3200566 mightycluck
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I was in DC at the National Association of Realtors meeting and saw this guy mention the bad GDP numbers. But he also put up a chart of Fed Funds Target against the Case-Shiller index. And then lumbers costs rising over 50% in one year. YIKES! Here is some of what he said:

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 21:52 | 3201010 philipat
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Thät is why he now wants "Out".

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:29 | 3201128 j0nx
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Bernanke is a fluffer.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:40 | 3200121 fonzannoon
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Here is the poroblem with Rick Santelli. As most people out there do, I watch CNBC on mute. I assume everyone else does as well. So what happens is every once in a while I happen to look up and I see Santelli screaming and waving his hands. I look around for the remote and look up again and he is humping a watermelon or sticking a tube of toothpate up his ass. Finally I find the remote and unmute it in time for him to yell "Back to you".

I wish I had some device to give me a heads up before he comes on.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:43 | 3200135 DoChenRollingBearing
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fonz, do what I do when there is something objectionable on CNBS:

Head for the can...


Especially the NYT ads...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:45 | 3200150 fonzannoon
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But i'd spend all day in the can, no?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:52 | 3200186 DoChenRollingBearing
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on how strong your stomach is

on how strong your prostate is

on how strong your sphincter is




Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:55 | 3200203 fonzannoon
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FWIW it is the freakin scooter store commercials that are going to take me down.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:00 | 3200226 DoChenRollingBearing
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But, you can LEARN a lot from the scooter store ads...  Social Security Disability Abuse Alert!  I mean they practically scream "Scam the government!".

Next time you go to Wal-Mart, you will see what I mean.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:09 | 3200631 Getting Old Sucks
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"I didn't pay a penny for my Power Chair.  Medicare and my insuranced covered it all".

I'd love to thow that bitch down a flight of stairs!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:14 | 3200648 akak
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"You've fallen, and you can't get up --- and I don't give a damn!"


(Referring to the welfare state, of course.)

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:23 | 3202189 phalfa5
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you shoud make bearings for those scooters...     just sayin'


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:13 | 3200278 NotApplicable
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They see me rollin'.

They hatin'.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:03 | 3200239 NoDebt
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We agreed to ban CNBC from the office.  No more TVs.  Instant productivity boost.

Anything on the web, including ZH, still perfectly acceptable, though.  Might have to get rid of all the computers and put in an old ticker spittin' out quote tape to address that little productivity vamprie, though.


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:07 | 3200426 Meat Hammer
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Get a DVR and push <<

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:25 | 3200491 ATM
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why not hit rewind on the dvr?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:14 | 3200655 Osmium
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Tivo?  Won't alert you before he comes on, but you can rewind.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:37 | 3200344 Everybodys All ...
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<---- blame Bernanke for the economy

<---- blame Obama for the economy

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:07 | 3200429 DoChenRollingBearing
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Now HERE is where we need a third option!

Green for the principal of the matter...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:17 | 3200662 bobthehorse
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Bernanke's main goal is to keep the Ponzi scheme rolling along.

To that end, he's a great success.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:37 | 3200099 Water Is Wet
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Correction Santelli:  It isn't working for you.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:38 | 3200110 falak pema
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lol, the dichotomy; we and them...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:36 | 3200100 takeaction
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Liesman......I know you read this.....Fuck YOU!!!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:47 | 3200162 The Limerick King
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Liesman's a moron with guile

He's constantly spewing out bile

His Keynesian art

Till debt do us part

Is evil, disgusting , and vile


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:54 | 3200193 azzhatter
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How about just LIESman is a bald headed, fat, lying, fuckwitted, dick licking, pus filled boil on the ass of society- CNBC

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:55 | 3200206 DoChenRollingBearing
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Excellent, Your Majesty!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:35 | 3200337 Liquid Courage
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The bankster snakes are all molting,
The errant knight Rodney is bolting,
I think this may sting,
So who’ll tell the King
The peasants are pissed and revolting?!

Long live the King!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:02 | 3200233 which way weste...
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Everyone in that fucking jersey studio should be raided and arrested under the RICO act.

This kike shit has gone on for YEARS.

LIESman, cramer, ira ross sorkin, faber, greenberg, kaminsky, rovell, finerman, kudlow the born again "Christian", boorstin, melissa francis, "zach" karabell, jane wells, wapner

such a mitzvah in englewood everyday, itz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Itz almost as if they are in place running/protecting a criminal enterprise (fellow "jews)

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:37 | 3200101 km4
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How “Financial Innovation” In US Financial Markets Stymied Real Innovation

After all the financial shenanigans by Wall Street that have been uncovered over the past decade, it’s a wonder we aren’t all back to stuffing our mattresses with bills.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:26 | 3200309 SmallerGovNow2
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who says we're not?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:37 | 3200102 HelluvaEngineer
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Nonsense.  Look at AMZN.  We have at least a few more hours before this thing blows sky high.  Party On.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:39 | 3200115 resurger
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Fuck you Ben zona Bernanke

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:40 | 3200123 Cognitive Dissonance
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Sometimes I feel sorry for Rick.

He still believes what he was taught about markets and America.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:52 | 3200184 AlaricBalth
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Santelli's overt anger is just a manifestation of his discomfort due to the fact that he simultaneously holds two or more conflicting beliefs. This is called...well CD, you know.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:03 | 3200227 ebworthen
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Cognitive Dissonance on video:

Just look at Macke's face even before he begins to speak.

He realizes that it is all bullshit, and that he either goes along when nothing makes sense, or he just comes out and says "This is all a crock of shit and you are all insane."

He is caught between the two, essentially says that it is all madness in the only way he can muster in the moment, and appeals for someone to make sense out of the senseless.  Sorry Jeff, you won't get any help on CNBC.

The Mad Hatter's are everyone EXCEPT Macke.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:51 | 3200365 Liquid Courage
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“Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally.” sputtered J.M. Keynes ... by way of an excuse, I guess.

It seems that both the attraction and the potential to cause harm of groupthink increase in direct proportion to the apparent intelligence of the group in question.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:00 | 3200401 centerline
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That was really worth watching.  I really can't wait for this to become more of daily thing.  I am going to laugh my ass off.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:02 | 3200237 DoChenRollingBearing
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Increasing anger cannot be felt by me alone...

The cd and attendant anger must be bubbling up all over...

Comments on my notion?  Are we getting more pissed off every day?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:05 | 3200248 ebworthen
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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:13 | 3200279 AlaricBalth
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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:18 | 3200291 NoDebt
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I've had 2 conversation in the last 24 hours about stuff in general with 2 different groups. 

One was a couple old accountant buddies of mine- older than me, I think of them like Grandparents almost.  The calming "voice of reason".  They were concerned that any money you put in a Roth IRA or 401k was just going to be taxed by the government in the near future regardless of strong promises to never do so.  I was floored.

Next was a group of Cub Scout dads from my pack.  One beer into the conversation and it turns out every single one of them bought at least one gun in the last year for then day when government benefits dry up and the gangs start to riot and pour out of the cities in an armed search for anything they can eat, steal or kill.  They're preparing for "the day the EBT cards die".  I shit you not.  Serious as a heart attack.

I thought I could conceive of some really high level disaster scenarios from my readings on ZH.  Figured I could easily out-crazy any idea they came up with.  Nope.  They were all over this- at my level or beyond- and not one of them had ever heard of ZH.

Draw your own conclusions.


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:23 | 3200306 SmallerGovNow2
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thanks for sharing.  good to hear what all manner of people are thinking and feeling out there...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:08 | 3200432 centerline
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Also wanted to say thanks for sharing.

What I have been really floored by lately is the changing attitude on all sorts of mainstream forums and commentary sections.  Frankly I am surprised that that most MSM outlets have not disabled comments.  They are getting flamed for every piece of bullshit they publlish.  It's everywhere now.  People are talking.  Yeah, there is still alot of right-left, red-blue, etc. sort of stuff out there... but even that facade is starting to get thin.  This may not seem like much - but it is entirely different than the attitude in the same places a few years ago.


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:12 | 3200449 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ NoDebt

My thanks as well.  So it's now everywhere.  

The answer is gold and guns.  And whatever preparations you pile on top of that.  Cub Scout dads is an interesting segment to comment.  Bravo reporting.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:48 | 3201337 jerry_theking_lawler
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so these guys have left the denial phase and have moved into the Anger phase. seems like they still have a long way to go.


luckily for alot of 'us' here, we are in the acceptance phase and moving on with our lives and preparing for the future....the toughest part for me was the set in as i thought i could do nothing to change my position and noone around me understood. then i found outlets such as ZH.....

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:22 | 3200303 NotApplicable
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I try and let it go, as emotion only works to undermine intellect, and can be used as a trap. Here, for example, all it takes is a single troll to divert someone into an emotional rant, which will be seen by others as undermining the inegrity of what likely started as a more intelligent discourse.

This sort of activation energy is the oldest trick in the troll book. Once the emotions start flowing, it isn't hard to lead someone into a seeming incoherence.

Ask Rick, I'm sure he knows this by now. OR at least he should.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:37 | 3200531 klockwerks
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On, not off, fixed it for ya

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:05 | 3200245 azzhatter
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I would respect him more if he just stuck to his position, not this "I agree with LIESman" bullshit. One day spell it out, "My colleague Steve LIESman is a dimwitted journalism major who knows nothing about money, other than the pennies Bernanke gives him for the blowjobs" or something like that.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:56 | 3200587 Strider52
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I've seen b-cups Burnett cut a guy off cuz he was telling too much truth. Santelli has to stay within certain margins, or he'd have no job.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:42 | 3200128 Chippewa Partners
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Ordered a new Blackberry on  Amazon on my Apple iPad........P/E's apparently don't matter until they do.  



Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:44 | 3200146 Cognitive Dissonance
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And it's gone. :)

<Thanks for playing though.>

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:43 | 3200134 astoriajoe
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what's the worry, its not like interest rates are rising or anything.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:06 | 3200249 CrashisOptimistic
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Interest rates?

Oil just hit $98.  Err, sorry, the real price of oil hit $115.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:43 | 3200140 LongSoupLine
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Just can't wait for day Santelli tells Bernanke to fuck off and die. I will personally catch a flight to Chicago to shake his hand.

Until then...fuck you Bernanke, eat fucking shit asshole.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:49 | 3200143 ebworthen
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Leeches at least thinned your blood a little.

Bernanke is "Dr. Lancet", relentlessly bloodletting with his rusty unsterilized blade and wondering why the patient keeps coming back paler and weaker.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:45 | 3200156 caimen garou
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Hope Rick does'nt have a stroke during one of his rants, I would miss him!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:59 | 3200218 vegasjack
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i hope he does i am tied of him

watched Santelli for the last time moving on to Bloomberg

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:59 | 3201360 jerry_theking_lawler
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RICK SANTELLI - God Bless You Man! How do you put up with those fucking idiots on a daily basis. I think you are a centrist......where does it put the talking fuckheads.  Rick, I pray for you to keep your wits about you each day.

this is all i think about when i watch CNBC and Rick versus the idiots.....

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:53 | 3200166 Yen Cross
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 I don't even watch CNBS on mute anymore. Just knowing that those sociopathic shills and their guests are on in the background, makes my hair stand up. I would rather use my electricity, on something productive. I'll watch santelli rant on Z/H vid caps.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:57 | 3200213 ultimate warrior
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I just go to and click on the video section and look for Santelli, Faber, Schiff, Grant, etc. to see if they were on. 

Marc Faber was on yesterday if you guys missed it. Faber is the shit.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:48 | 3200174 thismarketisrigged
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santelli is the only guy on cnbc who has a clue. everyone else on that network r clowns, including flip flop jim cramer

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:54 | 3200192 fonzannoon
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Really? I am really to believe that Santelli is this beacon of light out in the giant matrix of an ocean that CNBS has somehow overlooked?

All those bond auctions that he gives an "A plus" to knowing full well there is only one buyer in there?

All that data that he begrudgingly (no fucking idea how to spell that) admits is a positive sign the economy is on the right track

Every once in a while he rants like a crazy person who just got out of being locked in the basement for 2 minutes.

Sorry, I may have become totally jaded and have a complete mistrust for everything. But I ain't buying it.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:57 | 3200208 azzhatter
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fonz +1  These rants have gone on for so long, I'm even tired of him. Nothing ever changes and CNBC needs to have Santelli as a counter to all the Bernanke ball lickers on their station. Rick plays his role well. If it wasn't just a role, he'd have been gone long ago

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:11 | 3200236 Whiteshadowmovement
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haha, exactly! Santelli is to CNBC what Biderman is around here...

Santelli essentially got lucky the one time his first "epic rant" happened to get lumped in with the tea party.

I really wish zh would ban the words "epic rant" sometimes. They really arent all that epic when you get one evey couple of days

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:26 | 3200311 NotApplicable
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Not much luck involved when he's the mouthpiece for the Kochs.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:51 | 3200367 debtor of last ...
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Sanrally is holding his dick, knowing his 401k is the only one that is sustainable. The 80/20 rule on cnb whatever. +1

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:59 | 3200225 Mad Mohel
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I think it also has to be the fact that he may be the only one on there with a conscience. The rest are souless farm animals that have been taught how to wear clothes and speak.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:53 | 3200198 socalbeach
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Helping the economy would be desirable, but it is incidental to the Fed's two main goals: enrich the big banks, and help fund the US government.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:57 | 3200212 Hubbs
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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:56 | 3200205 jomama
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did it really take ol' rick this long to figure it out?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:56 | 3200209 l1b3rty
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or maybe it is just going exactly as planned...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:57 | 3200216 tahoebumsmith
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The only thing the FED, ECB and IMF have done thus far is keep the derivitive dominos from falling. They will print another 20 TRILLION if they have to just to keep the 600 TRILLION DOLLAR DERIVITIVE CASINO from blowing up. What a fustercluk these compulsive gamblers have got us into. Problem is, they are runing out of ways to keep a lid on the scam.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:28 | 3200316 NotApplicable
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Doesn't matter. The disaster is far enough along, they can let the whole thing blow, and nobody can stop it.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:58 | 3200217 No More Bubbles
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Obviously, it's not working, but Rick's paradigm is also wrong.   The whole idea that we need to (or can) GROW out of this system collapse is pure folly.  We, as a society STILL ARE IN DENAIL about the fact that this game is over.  It's time for society to collectively figure out a DIFFERENT, and SUSTAINABLE way to live.


Why can't people figure THAT out?  None of this debt even matters at this point because 100% of it will be DEFAULTED!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:31 | 3200321 NotApplicable
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Oh ye of little faith in ZIRP. Defaults are part of capitalism, and thus have no place in our future.

All of that debt will be rolled up into one big black hole, so powerful, why, they'll base a new currency on it.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:58 | 3200219 Jacque Itch
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And now stocks close in the red????? 

Potter, this is your one warning.  One more down day and you're done.


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:04 | 3200240 thismarketisrigged
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cnbc makes me sick. they r saying how the gdp report means nothing, buy stocks, economy is recovering, its comical.


fuck them all

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:04 | 3200243 evernewecon
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In A Right World One Could 

Make Banks Suck Up Their Own

Losses And Where They'd Be Systemically

Dug In One Could Run Them Temporarily On

The Basis Of 2 Sets Of Books:


Business As Usual


Business Per Force Majeure




In A Right World ObamaCare's Protected

Cartel Combined With Elaborate Profit

Formula That Actually Serves To Maximize

The Profitability Of Cartel Status, With

A Dearth Of What Makes Sense For Doctors

And Patients, A True Castles On The Rhine

System, Is Busting The Trust Immunity,

Requiring By Charter Shows Of Public Benefit,

Requiring By Charter Physician And Patient

Committee Material Decision Making Input,

And Risk Equalization Such That There's No

Such Thing As Dodging Or Gaming Risk.


Having No Way To Make Money But The Right

Way, Carriers May Yet Then Have Trouble 

Making An Affordable System.  Provider

(Physician) Last-Mile Committees Can Adjust

Practice Standards To Fix That Last Bit.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:06 | 3200253 evernewecon
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ZH:   Not seeing.   Please delete per taste any double post. 


In A Right World One Could 

Make Banks Suck Up Their Own

Losses And Where They'd Be Systemically

Dug In One Could Run Them Temporarily On

The Basis Of 2 Sets Of Books:


Business As Usual


Business Per Force Majeure




In A Right World ObamaCare's Protected

Cartel Combined With Elaborate Profit

Formula That Actually Serves To Maximize

The Profitability Of Cartel Status, With

A Dearth Of What Makes Sense For Doctors

And Patients, A True Castles On The Rhine

System, Is Busting The Trust Immunity,

Requiring By Charter Shows Of Public Benefit,

Requiring By Charter Physician And Patient

Committee Material Decision Making Input,

And Risk Equalization Such That There's No

Such Thing As Dodging Or Gaming Risk.


Having No Way To Make Money But The Right

Way, Carriers May Yet Then Have Trouble 

Making An Affordable System.  Provider

(Physician) Last-Mile Committees Can Adjust

Practice Standards To Fix That Last Bit.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:09 | 3200259 digalert
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Did Rick call the Bernank an invertebrate, blood sucking moron?

I concur.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:13 | 3200261 californiagirl
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If you understand that Bernanke's real goal is not to improve the economic well-being of the average American, but to continue to strengthen and enrich the banking elite by consolidating their power and control (particularly of the government) and converting their bad assets to national taxpayer debt, while they and the MSM tell us it is good for us, then you understand that his approach is working quite well.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:24 | 3200488 Clowns on Acid
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CaliGirl - Spot on.

So if we cut Fed Gov't spending that will take the price of assets down, if Ben stops printing (buying MBS) price of assets come down (bonds included here).

If we don't allow illegals full amnesty then our economy will suffer (who will pick the lettuce and work in NYC restaurant kitchens?)

If we don't increase Homeland security there will be an attack in a lrage US city.

According to Bernank and the Lame Stream media ....if we don't continue the dream of insanity then reality will be worse.

So lets all dream. Dreaming is good for the banking elite, the Media elite, and the Gov't elite. Very bad and getting worse for everyone else.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 22:12 | 3200984 californiagirl
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And if we criminally prosecute Wall Street banksters, then the financial system will collapse....

Pure B.S. meant to shut us up so they can run all over us! 

If I were President, I would not look to destroy banks with massive fines or otherwise, taking down pension plans and other innocent parties along the way.  I find it insulting that Breuer thinks we are stupid enough to fall for his the-world-will-end B.S.  A bank is not going to collapse because they have to get a few new executives and upper management folks to replace the crooks, though the bank may collapse because of high risk gambles entered into by the crooks.  However, that is the case either way, whether or not fraudulent accounting hides the truth. 

As a customer, I would have more confidence in a bank that replaces its crooks than one that keeps them in place, and whose reckless and criminal behavior just might result in another massive, nasty earnings surprise and stock price plunge. 

The banks did not create the problems.  It was the People that ran the banks.  Any miscreant behavior by their employees was also management's fault for not putting a proper control structure and personnel in place, and for not setting the proper tone at the top. 

The DOJ needs to prosecute the executives and upper management, as well as the individuals directly involved in the fraud.  The consequences of their criminal behavior should be forfeiture of their ENTIRE wealth (all physical and monetary assets) and lengthy jail sentences.  If they don't have enough money left over to buy a cup of coffee then they should not have committed fraud in the first place.  They won't need money in jail anyway. And if they can no longer pay for their kids college education, well, too bad. They should have thought about their kids and spouses before they threw their ethics out the door. Many parents cannot pay for their kid's schools.  I worked 30 hours per week through college and managed to graduate in four years debt free and with multiple job offers.  In the long run, numerous prosecutions (as a deterrent) will save significantly more taxpayer money than trying to claw back a few billion of hundreds of billions of continuing fraud, with little or no consequences to incentivise banksters to change their behavior.

Either Bernanke, Holder, Breuer, etc. are complete idiots, which I doubt, or they are intentionally trying to scare us into submission because they think we are all morons and easily fooled.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:14 | 3200277 Dareconomics
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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:16 | 3200285 Dan Conway
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Rick is kept on cnbc to be the capitalist clown but the real joke is on the network and the nation that believes the crap they push.  Think of how many "realists" on this website thought the Q4 was going to suck and just ridiculed by media types.  All you had to do was go x-mas shopping to see that the media was wrong talking about how good the shopping season was.  Now we find out that inventories were a reduction to gdp which means that the business community expected it to suck.  FU Obammer and Ben! and double FU to the media trying to spin this as good news!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:33 | 3200332 NotApplicable
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Wait, people went Christmas shopping last year?

We just passed a twenty around amongst ourselves.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:27 | 3200506 AlaricBalth
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Congratulations and thank you NA. You and your people generated a contribution to economic stimulus. :-)

Reminds me of this story. It's long but worth the read.

$100 Bill
It's a slow day in the small town of Pumphandle and the streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit.

A tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.

As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

(Stay with this.....and pay attention)

The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer.

The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Co-op.

The guy at the Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit.

The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel Owner.

(Almost done...keep reading)
The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the traveler will not suspect anything.

At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves.

No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town now thinks that they are out of debt and there is a false atmosphere of optimism and glee.

And that, my friends, is how a "stimulus package" works!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:20 | 3200298 loveyajimbo
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Rick... SHHHhhhhhhhsh!!  Uncle Ben the bone-Smokin' Butthole will help our gold go to $3000!!!  keep it on the down low, bro...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:29 | 3200319 devo
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In short, the emperor has no cloths.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:49 | 3200366 RichardP
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How about - the emperor has clothes, but there is no one inside of them?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:10 | 3201389 mt paul
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what about

the emperoress....

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:30 | 3200327 Shizzmoney
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6 years and no

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:37 | 3200341 NotApplicable
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More like 100 years of predation.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:34 | 3200336 mumbo_jumbo
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i disagree completely, what the Bernank is doing is working 100% as planned, want proof? DOW at a 5 year high.

end of discussion.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:41 | 3200351 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Bernanke is doing exactly what he set out to do:

Devalue the dollar, propping up asset prices so that pensions can return a nominal amount to keep GDP positive....

....wait, GDP went negative? 


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:17 | 3200461 DoChenRollingBearing
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GDP down, probably the story of the day (though kind of MSM-like).

Wonder why the Tylers missed this one.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:44 | 3200353 zebrasquid
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In previous decades they called what Bernanke is doing "healing the banks' balance sheets". At least that was straightforward. Quantitative Easing is Owellian Disinformation.

Of course, no amount of printed money given banks to collect a risk free spread can work now. The banks are long dead, in spite of all the life support tubes from the Fed. No one in power wants to post the obit..And most of the rest of us don't want to face it.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:59 | 3200396 forwardho
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To embrace todays reality, is to dance with chaos.

We live within the confines of a collective fanasty. Just because you see the world as it is, does not mean that those with everything to lose will choose to do so.

Those who extend and pretend are trapped, there is no escape, there is no other option.

As bad as things seem, consider the alternative.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:45 | 3200359 Everybodys All ...
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CNBC and all the financial networks are doing there best to ignore everything that is "negative" for the market. Bloomberg and Fox are only slightly lesser cheerleaders for this craziness. It's not going to change. This game just gets more and more exposed as the farce that it is until even these psychopaths can't stomach their own nonsense.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:37 | 3200398 Getting Old Sucks
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Of course I'm being sarcastic, I think, or maybe not, I don't know cause maybe I'm getting old, but if you want to be a real patriot, why don't you quit you're job?  Go on welfare, food stamps, section 8, and anythng else the government is giving away.  What would happen if everybody starting doing this?  I'd guess, martial law, forced labor, FEMA camps, rationing food, health care, death panels, etc.  Then perhaps the people will garner enough courage to say no more, we are the government, not you. 

Change isn't going to come without sacrifice.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:49 | 3200519 medium giraffe
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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:54 | 3200579 robertocarlos
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I am debt free as of this month. I also have $600 in coins at home. I will NOT be paying any of "YOUR" debts if I can help it. I WILL continue to cash any govt cheques sent to me. I hope the system collapses TODAY. Maybe the people in debt will be the ones laughing in the end but I wouldn't want to read in the morning paper that interest rates have gone to 18% over-night.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:57 | 3200583 devo
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Why do people believe these numbers yet disbelieve good numbers?

Pretty sure they can't stop printing at this point so everything is massaged (either good or bad) to justify that behavior and slow down or speed up markets. Seems like that to me at least.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 18:59 | 3200595 buzzsaw99
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Oh it's working alright.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:10 | 3200635 GNWT
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party like it's 1999...


with the Silver Liberation Army...


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:12 | 3200641 azzhatter
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yep if GDP is down, it's bad data according to LIESman, if it was up 3%, LIESman would pull his teeny prick out and jack off on TV

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:26 | 3200699 eddiebe
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It's working just fine for the banksters, Santelli, either wake up or go away!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:27 | 3200707 FFox
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Santelli is an eliitest blowhard.... where was the great Santelli when Paulson/Geitner/Banking elites screwed the country's treasurey/citizens with OTC derivatives, high speed trading, and unlimeted illegal short selling?

What about advocating for criminal charges for his ultra rich buddies!

He blows a lot of smoke but NEVER creats any real fire.... 'cause he's an overpaid, CNBC blowhard.

So sayeth the Fox!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:34 | 3200716 eddiebe
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Totally agree, fox. Santelli like all the rest are either dumber than rocks or a bunch of lying spineless whores.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:55 | 3200772 Black Markets
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Nobody controls the economy you dumb bastards.

Financial markets are NOT the economy. Prices are not activity.

Bernanke is just taxing everybody, via inflation, to plug the gaping fiscal deficit. The only way to avoid the inflation tax is to get out of USD and into assets, any assets.

So as long as the deficit is there USD will sink and all other prices will trend higher.

Sort your books out you dumbfucks. What is the point of striving to earn money in an environment of negative real rates?

The US deficit is an Albatross around your necks. It's killing your economy by killing any motivation to earn and save.

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