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Why Ben Bernanke Is Like A Monkey

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Excerpted from Seth Klarman's Baupost 2012 Letter to investors,

If economics were a hard science like chemistry, you’d mix a little of this with a bit of that and the concoction would lead to strong economic growth, full employment, rising home prices, buoyant financial markets, and low inflation every time. But economics is a soft science, and real life simply doesn’t work so predictably. Though economists might wish otherwise, economics is, at its core, behavioral.

 

Modern economies are too complex to be reliably modeled; their connections and correlations are loose and imprecise, the second- and third-order effects largely immeasurable, the fickle vagaries of individual and aggregate human behavior utterly unknowable. Put an economist in a powerful government job and provide levers that can be pulled to start the printing presses, set reserve requirements, fiddle with the Fed funds rate, expand the Fed’s balance sheet, and deliver indecipherable communiqués, and that economist will feel compelled to pull those levers.

 

He or she, like a monkey with a typewriter, might even give us Shakespeare (or Adam Smith) on occasion. But mostly that economist will spout gibberish, a mélange of untested and potentially counterproductive measures that unleash all manner of unintended consequences.

 

Were the meddling to actually remedy the targeted deficiency, it might well be at the cost of dangerous feedback loops and unexpected ripples growing beneath the surface into the incipient waves of tomorrow’s much larger problems.

 


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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment GNWT
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If every banker had a notion... Like Ben Bernank-i-a... Then every country'd be ZIPR-in'... Just like the USA...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment GNWT
Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:37 | Link to Comment vmromk
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A monkey ?

His criminality would make Al Capone blush.

Bernie Madoff keeps a poster of Bernanke in his jail cell.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:50 | Link to Comment aint no fortuna...
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The other way he's like a monkey is they both hurl their feces at anything that will stick

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Big Slick
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Liebe mein affe-monkey!!

(Now is ze time on Sprockets ven vee dance)

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Freddie
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"Molon Labe monkey"

Come take my monkey.

 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:02 | Link to Comment TerminalDebt
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He has the best beard monkey can buy

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Unquantifiable, bitchez!

(Oh, and Fuck You, Keynes!)

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment AnonymousCitizen
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Time to spank the monkey.

I don't even know what that means.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Someone........Shock the Monkey..........please.

<Hmmmm.......now where do you suppose I should attach the electrodes.>

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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I'm severely disheartened by all the anti-monkey sentiment in this post.  Especially when we all know it's Banananke's fault...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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OK!

So where do you think we should attach the electrodes? :)

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment espirit
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He flings poo?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment ShrNfr
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jerk-off

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Jake88
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LOL. Bad monkey

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:50 | Link to Comment Troll Magnet
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FUCK YOU, MONKEY!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment Thomas
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Go chemistry!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Fuck you too pal!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:35 | Link to Comment Troll Magnet
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LMAO!!!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Pegasus Muse
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"I just wanted to let you guys know GDP was down, not up ...."

Bennie and the Boyz:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRrMu7B1L2I

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:43 | Link to Comment Bunga Bunga
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To the monkey's defense, law applies to humans only.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:52 | Link to Comment Ying-Yang
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Spank the Monkey!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment unrulian
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i've never seen a bald monkey

 

 

edit: ummm ..i...mean.....i've never seen a bald primate

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment randomdrift
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The Koran says that his kind are brothers of apes and pigs. --- I've seen a bald pig. 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:27 | Link to Comment XitSam
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I didn't know Ben had a brother!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:47 | Link to Comment randomdrift
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Wow!

There is a marked resemblance, too.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment GNWT
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wait let me guess...

 

all the time?

 

G

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Most monkeys would be smart enough to not reward banana hoarding.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Ham-bone
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Disagree - Ben's actions are not causing "unintended consequences"...the consequences of higher inflation and asset prices are fully intended...the ultimate hyperinflationary policies to destroy unpayable debts are also Fed policy...not unintended.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment sdmjake
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+100

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Nice dumper.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Which result in a Banana  Republic.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Fully intended, as the actions are inescapable without the regime collapsing even sooner.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:39 | Link to Comment XitSam
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I don't think they are unintended, they are, however, forseen as a natural result of Ben's actions, but regarded as irrelevant because they think they can save the economy before collapse. Inflation may hurt some people, but it is necessary. They have models that tell them so. 

They are wrong about this but will never admit it. Even in collapse, they will be saying, "Oh, if we had flipped that lever it would have been fine. Sorry your country was destroyed. We will do better next time. We promise."

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment centerline
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Exactly.  Unintended consequences are managed along the way, as long as possible.  The reality is that the Fed cannot stop the inevitable in 15 minutes.  What can be done in 15 minutes is to terminate the system (pull the plug per se).

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment 101 years and c...
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a monkey is smarter than bernanke.  eventually, the monkey will stop doing what doesnt work. 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment Water Is Wet
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It's working pretty nicely for him.  He has the power to debauch the currency and he gets to sit around all day thinking of justifications for printing more money.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment Jake88
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Bernanke is just like a monkey. he will never stop spanking his monkey.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Iam Yue2
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Yes, and they will all follow each other on twitter, competing to see who can tweet some second hand information, slapping each other on the back, puffing chests, adopting superior air on account of their 2000 followers.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment caimen garou
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what do you mean like a monkey, he is a little trained monkey that gets a peanut for every dollar printed!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Apostate2
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Who's the organ grinder?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:01 | Link to Comment ShrNfr
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let's not go there. bobbit comes to mind.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:26 | Link to Comment Jake88
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organ grinder is the guy who spanks his monkey

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment markar
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Why is Bernanke like a monkey?

 

Because he sits in his cage in the Marriner Eccles bldg. flinging feces at us on a regular basis.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:45 | Link to Comment Cult_of_Reason
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You are insulting the monkeys.

Contrary to Bernanke, the monkeys learn from their mistakes and do not keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:10 | Link to Comment TWSceptic
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Unless those aren't mistakes but deliberate choices to enrich certain people...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:12 | Link to Comment Hi Ho Silver
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Ever seen the monkey and cocaine testing? The monkey will keep pressing the button long after the cocaine is withheld or until he dies of overdose if it's not.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:46 | Link to Comment 1000yrdstare
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SHOCK THE MONKEY!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment dot_bust
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If you hate the Fed, spread the word about this:

 

In December of 2013, the Federal Reserve Charter will come to an end. The monetary enslavement created by Woodrow Wilson and the Central Bankers will come to a close. In order for the Federal Reserve to retain control over the United States money supply, this charter will have to be resigned by Congress.

Read more:

http://occupycorporatism.com/big-brother-america-government-preparing-fo...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment DavidC
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dot_bust,
I've been thinking about this as well over the last month or two, very little seems to have been said about it.

DavidC

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:30 | Link to Comment helping_friendl...
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dot_bust,

I don't see any provision in the federal Reserve Act of 1913 which outlines an end to their charter.

The article gave no basis in fact that the FRBS will expire.

Show me the money. Please provide a link substantiating your claim that the Federal Reserve Charter expires after 100 years.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:21 | Link to Comment dot_bust
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It seems that you're correct. The article whose link I posted was incorrect. Sorry about that.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment 1000yrdstare
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not ....gonna...happen....

 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:54 | Link to Comment yogibear
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How appropriate, Bubble Bernanke, the Federal Reserve and a Banana Republic.

Monkeys like Bernanke like bananas. 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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Huge fucking insult to monkeys.

Monkeys don't destroy the fucking wealth of an entire middle class civilization. He's a fucking financial rapist.

Fuck you Bernanke, you fucking pile of shit.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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Soup - thats my guy....

stuck the landing yet again.....................

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment ejmoosa
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The 5th Amendment states: " nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation"

So when Bernake destroys the value of our private property on behalf of the Federal Government, I contend that they are violating the U.S. Constitution.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:43 | Link to Comment XitSam
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With the US Congress and President as co-conspirators.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
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An insult to monkeys.

Berspanke knows exactly what he is doing - stealing everything I have worked and saved for my entire life through currency debasement and ZIRP, and giving it to his asshole buddies on Wall Street.

He will get what is coming to him in the next life, not this one.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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"why is Bernanke like a monkey...."

becuase, FUCK YOU BERNANKE YOU SOCIOPATH COCKSUCKER PIECE OF SHIT BANKER BITCH.....FUCK ALL BANKERS.............

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment de Cosmos
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Our algorithm may not be perfect, but it's bigger, quicker and slicker than your algorithm.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment janus
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did i ever tell you bitchez that janus once met seth klarman's son?  well, i'm a' tellin ya right now.  i believe i have mentioned my high regard for mr. klarman before; and i must confess that i got something of a kick from meeting his son.

to my way of thinking, a man is ultimately judged by his library and the people circling about the more intimate orbits of his life -- his wife, children, lieutenents...etc.  if you've ever read klarman, you know he has that rare dexterity with words and ideas; and so i'm left to assume he's done some serious reading (on matters not specifically (or even tangentially) related to finance or markets) and that his library is therefore well-stocked with good stuff.  what is more, his son is an upstanding and highly intelligent young man.  he seems to understand music in a profound and philosophical way.  never met seth's wife; so i can't speak to that.

anyway, i was taking the kid from one place to another...which is sorta what i do in a profound and philosophical way -- literally, too.  it was a nice cab ride.  we chatted about the Bible and whatnot.

i'll tell you bitchez this much...it does feel oddly exilerating holding the credit card of a billionaire.  and it felt even better when they delivered the new jag i ordered with it.  i figure very few days go by in which a billionaire is not off buying a luxury automobile...he probably didn't bat an eyelash at it.  what's new jag among friends, anyway?

it was probably taking things too far when i bought that new mega-yacht; and having the thing retro-fit to accomdate a battery of patriot missles was where things got messy.  who knew billionaires were so pissy about such things?  you live and you learn.

i won't say anything more about our meeting; as i believe mr. klarman is a very private man. 

that's some good thinking and dandy writin, m. klarman -- you get a gold star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrs5DjHNUOE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG73Pk1yUj8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj2bmQ4P4cM

it was twenty years ago today/

sgt. pepper taught the band to play/

they've been goin in and out of style/

but they're guarenteed to raise a smile/

so may i introduce to you/

the act you've known for all these years,

Janus

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Zen Bernanke
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Reality on one side, politics on the other, and bernanke's story book land right in the middle.   I have watched him speak on numerous occasions and imho, he truly believes what he's saying and what he's doing will lead to the betterment of the economy or he's a better actor than Daniel Day-Lewis. 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment IamtheREALmario
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"Modern economies are too complex to be reliably modeled"

One may ask why that is the case and I would propose that the reason is that we are applying non-economic, non-optimal and non-free market inputs for social and personal goals. The system is corrupted. How can one model something that purports to be based on the free market but obviously is not. The  base assumption is wrong.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment randomdrift
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"Modern economies are too complex to be reliably modeled" ---  This is a property of large overly-interconnected systems. You'll find it under "chaos theory." These systems have no closed-form solutions. However, you can analyse and predict their behavior in a neighborhood using sensitivity analysis. That was what Greenspan did to set the rates. What he did was transparent, if, you knew that statistical method. Unfortunately, what Breneke is doing, isn't. 


Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:21 | Link to Comment IamtheREALmario
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But if the goal is global domination of a certain group of people or moving money from the lower classes to the upper classes (for example), the set of input are not random, are predictable, just not what one would expect if one's base assumption is that there is a free market at work.

One is not trying to model economics, but a social effect of certain inputs. Of course the result appears wrong and therefore too complex... but really they would not be if the base assumptions were correct.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:59 | Link to Comment randomdrift
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I agree that their goal is domination. They have repeatedly stated that they want a totalitarian Fascist theocracy. However, both the inputs and system are economic and so long as the system remains too large and too interconnected, its behavior will continue to have no general solution but will be predictable locally using sensitivity analysis. From their comments it is clear that they continue to use that method, I just don't see how they're doing the testing. That is what is opaque to me.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 17:26 | Link to Comment randomdrift
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Perhaps, I've been looking at the wrong output or measure of the system. They could be testing the socio-political response, instead of the economic response. ...  Hmmm.  That is exactly what the Hoover Administration did, as they were causing the Great Depression. They'd introduce an economic policy and, then, observe its impact on social trends. 

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment mudduck
Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Jake88
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"minkey" you said, "minkey" "how can an idiot be a policeman?" How can an idiot be the Fed Chairman?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:32 | Link to Comment janus
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5w3Kywdp0

mmm,mmm,mmm!

mrs. bernake is lovely, no?

but geithner's momma really stole the show!

chickie-chic-boom, indeed!  madame, you are too much!

wasn't that wonderful, folks?

de nada,

janus

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Generally I use this feature to depict Obama. Since they share the same banana peel, let them redistribute the power of ownership.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFwf7gRiLYM&feature=related

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Fix It Again Timmy
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This monkey has 535 stooges working for him...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment TWSceptic
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I'll take the monkey over the Bernank any day.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment michael_engineer
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"Modern economies are too complex to be reliably modeled; their connections and correlations are loose and imprecise"

I beg to differ. On the macro scale, it can be modeled much like an electric circuit. For electric circuit modeling, given a fixed energy source and just knowing how much load there is, you can predict exactly how much work is done. Now if you allow your energy source to slowly decrease, you can precisely predict that the amount of work performed by the circuit will also be decreasing.

The same concept applies to the economy. If our energy inputs start decreasing then less physical work will get done (and most work involves kinetic energy stages) . The majority of GDP contributions involve kinetic energy stages and some very important ones are almost exclusively characterized by kinetic energy stages. So therefore if our energy sources start dropping then less GDP can be expected.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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Nice try, but over simplified. You are still quoting from a hard science perspective.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Jake88
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Bernanke is the organ grinder. Obama is the minkey.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment YouAreBliss
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More a trained pet monkey of the Banksters - they crank the organ and he dances!

 

He gets a peanut and they get to pocket the loot.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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Monkeys just eat low hanging fruit, they don't eat away at the foundation of your house like termites.
Much more difficult to eradicate a termite problem than a monkey problem.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:10 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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GET YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF ME, YOU DAMN DIRTY APE!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 19:10 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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GET YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF ME, YOU DAMN DIRTY APE!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 00:47 | Link to Comment deebee
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an insult to monkeys. At least monkeys have redeeming features

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