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The Vulnerability Of The Elites

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In a post-financial crisis world, the lack of viable international leadership is potentially troubling. In 2013, the WEF believes, this breakdown of international coordination will go increasingly local: in such a world, governments will focus more on their domestic agendas, which will create new risks in and of itself. Most importantly, the growing vulnerability of elites makes effective public and private leadership that much more difficult to sustain. Leaders of all kinds are becoming more vulnerable to their constituents, generating more reactive and short-term governance. Whether one looks at the dismal approval ratings of the U.S. Congress or the impact that more open flows of information is having on the Chinese ruling elite, it is clear that people are becoming more and more uninspired by their governments. When it comes to unemployment, the widening disparity of wealth, or environmental degradation, highly complex or even intractable issues set politicians up for failure in the eyes of their constituents. Underperformance erodes elites’ legitimacy, making it that much harder for them to lead effectively. Against this backdrop, a host of key 2013 risks and opportunities takes shape.


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Thu, 01/31/2013 - 22:57 | 3204938 deeznutz
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guillotinez bitchez!!!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:09 | 3204965 NemoDeNovo
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By ANY Means necessary, but only when the time is right, just sayin..........

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:23 | 3205010 true brain
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Elitism is a relative concept. if you get rid of the top 1%, the next 1% will now move up. If you keep going and going, the bottom will end up on top. So the point is not to get rid of the top but to create a fair world where anyone can move to the top. THis is much more difficult.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:40 | 3205047 dryam
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Off topic just to piss everyone off....a true tale frome Amerika....

79 year old woman who inherited money from her husband when he died.  She failed to report $650k in taxes.  So what's the penalty after her full cooperation?  *$26.6 million* plus she faces 6 years in prison.  China isn't the communist country, the US is.


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:55 | 3205087 john39
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So the poor old widow just forgot about those offshore accounts with tens of millions of dollars in them?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:59 | 3205217 Bandit und Buster
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Yeah, just like half the Cons in DC...but are they in prison YET? 

It's all in who you know, ya know?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 02:01 | 3205302 economics9698
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The more countries the USA splits up into the better chance we have of creating libertarian ones.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 02:36 | 3205345 Western
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Here you go, everybody;


The true elite are;

-supra/transnational (the queen of england does NOT have a passport, think about that)

-parasitic, they will leave the US once everything has been extracted


-they hoard REAL wealth (no digi dollars, except maybe bitcoins if they were smart)


-source the vatican as their rightful claim to your body mind and soul

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 07:10 | 3205512 GetZeeGold
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the queen of england does NOT have a passport


Illegal aliens don't need papers to vote in the USA.....just sayin.


Pretty sure those cats don't have passports either.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:50 | 3205658 kralizec
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Isn't she supposed to be one of the reptillians?  Jus' sayin'...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:22 | 3205750 trav777
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the elites are in no real danger.

Look around you.  Marxism won.

They've got the only plausible opponents to marxism divided down the middle and dancing on strings, salivating at bells, and cowering before sacred cows that they daren't challenge.

They have the entirety of europe browbeaten, especially the germans.  Every time germany gets out of line, they throw up original sin of HOLOCAUST.  In the US it's the same.  Go ahead and appeal to the "founding fathers," they've been totally deligitimized now, so much so that people actually AGREE with renaming things named after them to reflect more diversity.

There've been no real revolutions in marxist countries...the only ones there have been have called for more marxism.

Even on ZH there are massive marxist undercurrents against 'the 1%' and calls for redistribution, class warfare, and implications that inequalities are resultant from oppression. 

Nevermind the idiots who talk about the vatican and the fucking Queen of England.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 10:01 | 3205894 Melin
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+2 . . .the first was for the use of "daren't" and the second. . ."Even on ZH there are massive marxist undercurrents against 'the 1%' and calls for redistribution, class warfare. . ."

Hear, hear!!!!!!!

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 10:34 | 3206010 Enslavethechild...
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The U.S. Military owns them all.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 10:35 | 3206017 Spastica Rex
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Fri, 02/01/2013 - 12:06 | 3206380 lincolnsteffens
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I'm really upset Trav. This is the second time in a month I gave you the up arrow.  Your loosing your touch

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 13:40 | 3206702 Totentänzerlied
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If you're going the neo-Trotskyian hardcore reactionary neo-conservative right's definition of Marxism, then yes.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:10 | 3206787 James_Cole
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Yeah, almost no one on here knows a single gawddamn thing about Marx but constantly rants against this thing "marxism." 

"Even on ZH there are massive marxist undercurrents against 'the 1%' and calls for redistribution, class warfare, and implications that inequalities are resultant from oppression."

Don't need any redistribution from the top 1%, all we ask is that money stops getting redistributed to the 1%. That'll never happen of course - if the money stopped being pumped into their coffers the financial world would implode leading to full on societal collapse or something. Or so I'm told. 

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 04:49 | 3210580 Western
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Wow, what ghosts are giving you up arrows?


The 1% ? Can you spit any more names that will elicit an emotional response from people that watch mainstream propaganda?


I've never seen you say anything intelligent.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:04 | 3205572 Sandmann
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So since you have decided the main issue is The Queen of England's Passport let us resolve that threat to the global economy. There is no British Passport it is an EU Passport which would make the British Head of State an EU Citizen rather than Head of State of the  Kingdom. So she would need a Canadian Passport as Head of State of Canada or posibly an Australian Passport as Head of State of Australia.

Once this passport is issued the world can return to being a happy, prosperous place with solvent banks and employed people owning their homes and having their personal wealth safe for the future. That is all it needs - a passport for the Queen of England and Jamie Dimon will be burned in the fires of Mordor and Lloyd Blankfein will return to being Smeagol. Everyone will live happily ever after


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:33 | 3205774 trav777
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you DO understand that major shareholders like Capital Group are fucking mutual funds, right?

Even the big banks that are major institutional owners are holding in trust for zillions of little people out there.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 16:44 | 3207408 Shigure
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Who needs a passport if their face is on the currency?

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:57 | 3205091 James_Cole
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"79 year old woman who inherited money from her husband when he died.  She failed to report $650k in taxes.  So what's the penalty after her full cooperation?"

Yeah, UBS had her $40m hidden in Lichtenstein and Panama so she could avoid paying tax (a felony) and when the IRS discovered this all of a sudden she became very "co-operative." Boo hoo USA is communist boo hiss.

As far as this article, very funny seeing WEF coming out with a report called "The Vulnerability of the Elites" - is this their 'come to Jesus' moment??'

"Obama may well offer a NAFTA-plus pact to Brazil.If Brazil declines (or even independent of developments onthis front), Obama may focus on enlarging and expeditingthe Trans-Pacific Partnership, perhaps pushing harder forJapanese inclusion. Such an agreement between countries comprising some 40% of global GDP would have far-reaching security and economic implications, particularly for North America and the Asia Pacific region. Progress on an Atlantic equivalent—which is being billed as an ‘economic NATO’—may seem beyond the horizon. But the potential for surprisingly rapid progress could turn this pipedreaminto an explicit goal over the course of the year."

And then they go on to say...

"Where leaders can diagnose this new reality, they can learn toadapt to it. In ‘the new local,’ finding more localized fixes to problems will prove the way forward."

Nope! Same old WEF, bunch of scumbags.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:06 | 3205211 BLOTTO
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Evil is will eventually lead it to its down fall.


Good always wins in the end...its the heart of the universe.


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 05:26 | 3205457 vato poco
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Uh, no, actually, Good *doesn't* always win out in the end - unless you want to stretch your time frame for "in the end" out to decades/centuries/millenia. Read your history. "Good" may pop up here and there for brief monents, but it's always soon overthrown/deposed & replaced by....welll...."evil". Good wanst to sit back & have a brewski or 2. Rust never sleeps.

In other news, it seems the good folks of North Korea are having to resort to cannibalism. (again). And the slave markets of southern Sudan are booming. (again.) But hey, on the plus side, Jason Bourne wrecked the CIA's Treadstone/Black Briar project, so at least all's well *there*. And the Avengers _TOtally_ kicked Loki's scheming evil ass, too.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 06:09 | 3205476 MisterMousePotato
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Fri, 02/01/2013 - 10:01 | 3205883 BLOTTO
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I understand Vato...much respect.


'unless you want to stretch your time frame for "in the end" out to decades/centuries/millenia.'

- yes, thats exactly what i mean....on a long enough timeline (sounds familiar) wins.


In my/our life time...its been all bad (with of course glimpses of goodness). I think the current streak is 2,000+ years...maybe longer.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 13:13 | 3206590 dark pools of soros
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good and evil are relative...  Joan of Arc might of been a catty bitch in school and deemed evil by an ex boyfriend

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 13:52 | 3206736 Totentänzerlied
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Good ... to whom? Life on Earth has really hardly ever been better than it is for today's superwealthy. And thanks to all that cheap oil, some of the rest of us got a taste of the good life too, for about three quarters of a century. It merely cost us our dignity, virtue, honor, honesty, integrity, liberty, and wealth.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:42 | 3205645 IamtheREALmario
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At the top evil may be lazy, parasitic and disfuntional, but there are all of these toadies running around trying to impress the boss.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:29 | 3205769 bobert
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Sarcasim right?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 04:24 | 3205414 gbresnahan
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Nice. I wonder how many years Geithner will serve for his tax evasion.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:53 | 3205076 CH1
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to create a fair world where anyone can move to the top.

No... If you want to cure abuse from above, you remove "above."

The idea is to forsake all systems that allow a small group of people to dominate and control everyone else.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:39 | 3205179 macholatte
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Excuse me. But there's another 800 pound gorilla in the room.


From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx


but who decides?  Oh, yea. that would be the guy with the army police and propaganda machine.

fair world my ass!



Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains.
Karl Marx


Religion is the opium of the masses.
Karl Marx

For the bureaucrat, the world is a mere object to be manipulated by him.
Karl Marx

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:47 | 3205198 macholatte
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How to kill the goose that laid the golden egg...


IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 04:27 | 3205417 gbresnahan
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It's a Life Tax. Want more kids? You're gonna pay, dearly.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:30 | 3205615 krispkritter
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Anyone find it ironic that they label their plans in PM names?  Platinum, Gold, Silver, and we'll throw in Bronze...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:10 | 3205229 Seer
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Are you talking old paradigm?

Why is there a need for "leaders?"

Full accountability/full responsibility = no need for "leaders."

And, as per capita energy continues to decline those who consume vastly more energy than everyone else will find it very difficult to continue to do so, no "individual" or system necessary to manage this...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:42 | 3205641 IamtheREALmario
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That would only work in a world not run by Satan and we would need to grow up a bit.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:59 | 3205685 Confused
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Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains.
Karl Marx


Isn't this a variation of - Bankers, Politicians, the Elite, don't actually produce anything. Instead they just siphon off of the productive members of society?


Not advocating Marx. I'm just saying............

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:03 | 3206761 Totentänzerlied
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You remove "above" and implement a system, to be guarded jealously and at any cost, by each and every member of all generations, which prevents the establishment of a monopoly on violence, a monopoly on law, or a monopoly on "money" (debt) creation. This system is actually rather easy to describe - it's really just private property with both the means and the will to protect it. The key is the love of liberty, which motivates the entire exercise. And therein lies the rub.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:10 | 3205234 scrappy
Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:26 | 3205019 TotalCarp
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The sheer fact that this sht came out of Davos elites meeting is creepy as hell. We have seen constant denial of pure democratic decision making in europe already (greek eu votes, italian (lack of) election).

To me the fact that this is actually put on paper stinks to high hell.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:52 | 3205078 disabledvet
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well it does appear their brand of totalitarianism ("the money printers work for us") has completely failed. the winner so far in my view has been Andrew Jackson
oh, sorry...wrong Andrew Jackson... (clearly the bankers put that picture in.) state and local budgets will be flush with money beyond belief in the USA "those elites" seem to be doing just fine. so much of the economic elites' wealth is attached to a singular rise "in all things" i think the very notion is rather odd...certainly AT odds with reality. this is America...where fortunes are MASSIVELY made and lost with striking regularity. perhaps those that settle down with a "government dude or dudette" really do have it figured out best.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:44 | 3205193 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ TotalCarp

+ 1 just for the great moniker!

Actually, I have felt for a long time that it is not just one Elite running the world (or imminetly close to doing so).  I do NOT deny that The Elite exists, I suggest instead that they are TOO FRACTURED ti impose a totalitarian state upon us, for now.

"The Fractured Elite":

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:11 | 3205237 Seer
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They're doing what they were coached/trained to do.  It's ALL they know to do.  Garbage in garbage out...

But, yeah, it don't matter what they'd like to do, Mother Nature is going to DICTATE what happens from here on out.

The bigger they are the harder they're gonna fall.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 03:56 | 3205398 zhandax
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I just skimmed the headings and realized this was complete horseshit when I saw the bright spot in all this was ogolfer got re-elected.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:11 | 3206789 Totentänzerlied
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Never has before...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:16 | 3205243 Freddie
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US Senate - a source of great evil.  I wonder why Jim DeMint left.  Maybe he knew somthing.

Louis XVI ascended to the throne amidst a financial crisis; the state was nearing bankruptcy and outlays outpaced income.[7] This was because of France’s financial obligations stemming from involvement in the Seven Years War and its participation in the American Revolutionary War.[8] In May 1776, finance minister Turgot was dismissed, after he failed to enact reforms.

A monarch, bankrupt state, two wars, finance minister who failed to enact reforms.

Anyone know a king and Marie Antionette?  Let them eat cake?   Two wars?  The USA has more than two.  Did Louis get a peace prize? I wonder if finance minister Turgot knew how to run Turbo Tax or was printing money.

If only Louis XVI had drones.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 03:20 | 3205369 Clashfan
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FR was organized by Templars as revenge. Same w/Russian commie Rev.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:50 | 3205857 shovelhead
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"Someday, we will shit in your punchbowl."

Jaques DeMolay

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:15 | 3206800 Totentänzerlied
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Yeah couldn't have been the fact that most of France lived like slaves and dogs while the aristocracy played dress-up and built mansions all day, and then proto-socialist agitators showed up...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:32 | 3205621 blindfaith
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to get the hell ( like move to another State) out of South Carolina before the blacks and hispanics take revenge on the 'good-o'l -boy' Republician 'keep um poor and pregnant' ruling class finds itself at the end of a gun.  Long live the NRA, they do have a purpose and a damn good one.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:10 | 3204970 YBNguy
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^ Heads will roll.

v They are like snakes, and will not die even when headless

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:47 | 3205197 DoChenRollingBearing
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I gave you green, but I wish I cold have voted for both.

+ a bunch, nice and concise, bravo!

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:18 | 3206815 Totentänzerlied
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Interesting choice of words. They are flesh and will die. But their system is one of ideas, one that can and does function properly in a "headless" configuration.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:12 | 3204972 wee-weed up
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Exactly! The vulnerability of the elites is that they probably will NOT survive the revolution.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:18 | 3204994 zorba THE GREEK
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We will hunt them down as we did the Nazis and bring them to justice no

matter how long it takes.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 03:20 | 3205370 Clashfan
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Bahaha. The nazis? Hunted down? Ever read the Cisco Wheeler interview?

Who built NASA?

What is MKULTRA, and where did it come from?



Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:01 | 3205695 Zwelgje
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Operation Paperclip

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 02:05 | 3205307 Lordflin
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What impedes the current leadership, both sides of the aisle, from leading effectively is that the vast majority are morally degenerate.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:28 | 3206841 Totentänzerlied
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What ever are you talking about? They are effectively leading us FORWARD! every day.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 03:15 | 3205367 Zerohedge fan
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Yes Sir,

I am ready!

Who's first?


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:22 | 3204943 francis_sawyer
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I had to laugh at this one...


Cyber attack  The hacker group Anonymous, for its part, has begun showing signs that it may seek to use its power in support of a foreign policy of its own. In November 2012, it threat-ened Egypt’s President Mohamed Morsi with cyber attack should he seek to expand his powers too far. A massive cyber attack is certainly possible in 2013


So the greatest threat we face is a truckload of fizzies in the pool at the swim meet...

Can't these geeks hack themselves up some bitcoins & get rich?

Edit: Oh look!... I take it all back... Some Encyclopedia Brown just figured out how to hack the complex cryptology of the RED ARROW button

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:23 | 3205008 Ineverslice
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Thank you sir, may I have another!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:02 | 3204948 centerline
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Article is mostly crap.  I would go as far as to say it is propoganda... playing up (parading around) the scapegoats instead of focusing on the real elites.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:12 | 3205236 scrappy
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Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:08 | 3204968 TonyCoitus
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Hmmm, what does this mean? Let me check the manual......oh here it is........ahhh......BULLISH!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:11 | 3204971 besnook
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total crap. kissinger(I THINK) said the access to informationa and the ability to widely desseminate it quickly has lead to a better informed public hindering the ability of the ruling class to do what it wants without resistance.

revolutions are fought on an empty belly. it doesn't matter how a people are governed. they better be well fed before the leaders try anything stupid. of course, it also takes an ability to synthesize information and organize so i would expect europe to break out the heavyweighted sharpened edges before the usa learns how to load a single shot 22.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:12 | 3204974 palmereldritch
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 It's a cook book!!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:16 | 3204984 ReptilianSlaveMaster
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As you sit there lazeyley and careles in your nice fur coat, drining your expensive starbucks coffee in front of a fire decorated in gold plates, there are 10 million gay people in America being denied the freedom to get married. Are you just going to sit there and take it like a bitch or are you going to dedicate every muscle and thought you ever had to this noble cause

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:02 | 3205097 Bazza McKenzie
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They have precisely the same right as everyone else, to marry someone of the opposite gender.  No discrimination.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:19 | 3205131 imbtween
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Are you just going to sit there and take the homosexual agenda like a bitch or are you going to dedicate every muscle and thought you ever had to this noble cause?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 11:43 | 3206300 knowless
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dedicate every muscle and thought to the homosexual agenda

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:58 | 3205218 knukles
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If they wanna get married it's none of my business, nor the state's.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 07:48 | 3205550 Acet
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+1 This!

For all the bad rep Libertarianism gets around here, true Libertarianism (not the bullshit that passes for it in some countries) has at its core a very simple principle:

- If it doesn't harm others, anybody should be able to do whatever they want.

So, men marrying men, women marrying women, men marrying women, cross-species marriage, polygamy, drug taking, suicide, assisted suicide, drinking soda from large cups, piercings, dangerous physical activities, eating too much food - all this and more is no business of anybody other than the persons involved and if all involved are consenting adults, it's no business of the state or anybody else to intervene, much less regulate it. 

The tit-for-tat is that if you get into trouble because of those activities, don't expect any help from others.


The one single biggest problem of many societies is how Moralism has taken over common practice (think Political Correctness) and even law. It's amazing how societies are supposedly made up of mature adults and yet the law has to protect said mature adults from feeling insulted or shocked.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 07:57 | 3205562 Ghordius
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+1 both

I maintain that a libertarian is a classical liberal that has understood the "Fallacy of the Broken Window" very well but does not want to hear anything about the "Tragedy of the Commons" - or was just raised not to care about

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:35 | 3206846 Totentänzerlied
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"but does not want to hear anything about the "Tragedy of the Commons""

Uh, libertarians understand the tragedy of the commons better than anyone but anarchists ...

Sat, 02/02/2013 - 08:43 | 3208876 Ghordius
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I'm not saying "does not understand", I'm saying "does not want to hear anything about..", or, bettter, "...about common tested methods of coping with them"

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:22 | 3205598 ZeroAvatar
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By that logic, I suppose it's ok for everyone to murder, steal or lie about everything in life. Moralism is for the birds. Let everyone just do all the drugs their spongy brains can absorb, murder some homeowner for a coupla dollars for the next fix, go out and fuck some faggot and get AIDS, then come back to your daughter and give it to her.


Common sense is for the birds too, I guess.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:54 | 3205667 Ghordius
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"If it doesn't harm others" - murder and theft do harm, lies... depends

restricting morals to your own behaviour is not the same as not having morals

the concept is called victimless crime

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 11:08 | 3206144 A Lunatic
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The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

-Thomas Jefferson- 

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 13:15 | 3206597 knukles
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The man understands.....

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:34 | 3206847 Totentänzerlied
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He also held slaves.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 11:42 | 3206290 knowless
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explaining the utility of a commonly held morality is difficult, especailly to most people who call themselves christians.

but yeah, the state should have no hand in marriage whatsoever, heterosexual or otherwise.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 13:13 | 3206594 knukles
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"If it harms no others"

Mwaning you or them.  And if it's your business what they do, then it's theri business what you do.
How you like that?

They'll tell you what to do...
It's a 2 way street , bud.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:47 | 3205656 IamtheREALmario
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Right! I am going to try my best to NOT fall prey to the Hegelian diaelectic that has enslaved us and go for door number 3.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 04:58 | 3205441 Rogue Trooper
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WTF with all the down votes... RSM use the sarc tag for the slower ones!

Your Gay Ass Belongs to us!

LOL BitChez!

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:14 | 3204987 Billy Shears
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I like it! Very catchy..."Commited to improving the 'State' of the World." God help us!

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 05:06 | 3205444 Rogue Trooper
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I, for one, welcome the self-less contributions that our intellectual betters from the WEF make to build a perfect world for us.

With hope we can have positive changeTM


Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:21 | 3205002 chump666
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The rudderless boat is about to hit an iceberg.  Foolish humans.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:26 | 3205003 EmmittFitzhume
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The "elites" are not wasting a minute of a day in finding a way to get out of this.  They have a lot of money and a lot of power.  They will find a way to keep as much of their power as they can.  The more time they have, the more power they will find ways to keep.  As long as they have the sleit of hand, they will be able to buy more time.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:31 | 3205026 GeorgeHayduke
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So, the so-called 'elites" have waged class war against the 90 or so percent for decades now, and the 90 or so percent are starting to slowly wake up and suddenly we have a potential problem? I guess all is well as long as the peons know their place and stay in it without question. Kind of the plantation owner mentality at work there.

If that's the case, AND peak oil is here (which it's looking like it is, along with several other possible peaks), things are going to get a whole lot more interesting as the "elites" and the awakening peons try to out maneuver each other over what's left of the planet. Gotta wonder if the usual "elite" tactics of having the peons take it out on each other instead of them will work this time. They likely will since proud ignorance runs deep in large swaths of the peon population.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 14:43 | 3206868 Totentänzerlied
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Any elites worthy of the title have known the state and future of energy resources since they were still in diapers. The elites need not do any "maneuvering", what a joke, they already control the entire planet, and always have. That is what means to be an "elite" - to control the things that really matter.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 22:50 | 3208357 RockyRacoon
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The 90% have borrowed, spent, and borrowed even more that has been passed up the debt ladder to the top 10%. We are about out of credit now, so our usefulness is near an end.  Beware.  We are expendable.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:28 | 3205055 Mercury
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This is the challenge: as their legitimacy gets called into question, political actors struggle to react to instability, crises and opportunities in the most effective manner…several factors are facilitating pushback against existring policies and institutions and making both governments and some private actors across the globe look increasingly fragile.

You don't say.
That's terrible!
Could it possibly be because they're...fucking up?

Let me guess - if only more power and private wealth were given to unelected, unaccountable officials, bureaucrats and state authorities those "elites" would have the resources, time and focus to lead more effectively and solve the important problems we all face.

You know this ass-clown was stuffing his face with taxpayer funded canapés and salmon soufflé ten minutes after reading this drivel at Davos...sorry, Dubai - that model of republican governance and human liberty.

Thanks Poindexter but please un-commit yourself to improving the state of the world. Right away.

This is just the kind of thing that prompted William F. Buckley to write years ago that he’d “rather be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston telephone directory than by the 2,000 members of the Harvard faculty."

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 03:24 | 3205372 Clashfan
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Buckley the Skull and Bones satanist who defended the official version of the JFK hit?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:29 | 3205526 Mercury
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 I call them like I see them.

Stick with the "experts" if you like.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:46 | 3205059 Common_Cents22
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"re-election of obama is a bright spot"  ???   fuckwads.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:10 | 3205580 Ungaro
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Absolutely! For China and Russia.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 23:54 | 3205081 Terrorist
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You have to be a real arrogant shithead to even refer to yourself as elite. This is such tunnel vision statism. A tone of not believing in empowered people.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:06 | 3205104 Uber Vandal
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Perhaps there is a better word or phrase for the "elites" than "elite"


That sums it all up nicely.


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:23 | 3205141 IridiumRebel
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cocksuckers? Selfish assholes? I got more......

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:25 | 3205145 Uber Vandal
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Mine is a play on the unfortunately ubiquitous phrase "gun nut".


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:06 | 3205109 A Lunatic
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I don't believe anything I read anymore. What a cruel fucking world we've created for ourselves; and we had so much promise.........

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:56 | 3205216 knukles
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+ Bazillion

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:19 | 3205245 Seer
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I don't believe that read that!  Ha ha...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 11:04 | 3206121 A Lunatic
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Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:07 | 3205112 Lucius Corneliu...
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So the Senate is trying to triple H1-B visas and give citizenship to illegals.  Yeah, right ... the elites are really on the run </sarc>

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:13 | 3205120 ReptilianSlaveMaster
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I kind of find the recent pro obesity, pro gay, apro freeloader/food stamp nature in humanity  alarming- kind of makes you wonder if the future is just going to be naked guy bumming each other for food stamps in a chaotic disorder mess - debt brother 2020

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:19 | 3205130 Poor Grogman
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"In a post-financial crisis world, the lack of viable international leadership is potentially troubling"

That statement depends entirely on ones perspective...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:22 | 3205134 IridiumRebel
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This one is for the plebes!

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:33 | 3205167 The Gooch
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Get a passport!

Change your name to Simon Bond!

Move your gold offshore, to various allied nation vaults!

Move to Ecuador!

Start a dairy farm!

Those "elites" will never find you!

Live happily ever after, until...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:40 | 3205180 lasvegaspersona
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Yes Obama COULD do a lot of good things. BUT he seems insistent upon starting a civil war by enacting an unconstitutional gun he'll be busy with that for a while.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:40 | 3205184 Cookie
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WEF??? Any long time ZH reader could have knocked this out in an afternoon

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:55 | 3205215 knukles
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Another NWO propaganda conduit, no?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:50 | 3205201 newengland
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The NDAA passed by O'bomba on New Year's Eve 2012 is intended to deal with any eventuality. Meanwhile, CONgress allows it, and pockets the proceeds of the gangster bankster class which it bails out with taxpayer money and labor.

Foward, comrades! To the gulags...

Interesting that the same santimonious 'educated fools' and 'useful idiots' who damned Bush have nothing to say about O'bomba expanding the fascist regime.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 00:56 | 3205213 knukles
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Oh yes they do!

I point these types of things out and they say; "It's different."  Or "Bush did it, too."

Any excuse under the sun to justify his majesty's actions

Fucking Ridiculous

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:26 | 3205255 Seer
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Anyone who thinks that IF Obama didn't want to sign it that he could have has rocks in their head.  This is the fucking MIC for fuck's sake!

H.R. 1540 (112th): National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012
Apr 14, 2011 (112th Congress, 2011–2013)
Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon [R-CA25]
1 cosponsors (1D) (show) Smith, Adam [D-WA9]
Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:34 | 3205266 Seer
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Because I cannot ask those 'educated fools' that you refer to I'll just ask you: Did YOU  say anything about Bush's crimes?

I can at least say that I've opposed all of these fuckers' empire-building practices.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 02:00 | 3205297 newengland
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Opposed, how? By excusing O'bomba because he came after Bush? Waa waa waa. More whining from arm chair scribblers.

Big Brother loves you. Keep watching the main scream media.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 02:06 | 3205309 Seer
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WTF did you bother asking a question that you already had ((fabricated an) the answer for?

I have no need to engage with silly people.

Thanks for playing.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:16 | 3205244 Wanton1
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Deep Underground Military Bases


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:18 | 3205247 q99x2
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Their closing paragraph was a doozey. Obama's re-election and a brighter United States. Were they implying nuclear warfare in the US?

With papers like that...we sure are in a world of hurt.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:30 | 3205259 Seer
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I think that paper is the least of our problems...  Being totally dependent on a system of perpetual growth on a finite planet is a bit more of a danger...  And, really, anyone sitting around waiting for TPTB to announce this needs to reevaluate their thinking process.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:26 | 3205256 gwar5
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When things really start to go tits up they'll hit the accelerator over the cliff so the elites can claim we need them to lead us to food and water. Slow collapses give people too much time to think and blame and become self-sufficient.


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:31 | 3205261 Seer
Fri, 02/01/2013 - 05:23 | 3205454 Rogue Trooper
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Thank you Seer..... from the other side of the world many of us are having these conversations.  One person at a time folks are slowly walking up.

It's ironic but because Obama promised so much he is only creating disappointment.  TPTB should have gone with Romney.  He would have been Bush IV and then there would have been hope that the progressives would be back in 2016 and the game could last longer... Playin' with the proles mind it could back fire on 'em.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 23:17 | 3208419 RockyRacoon
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It's worth posting in its entirety:

We Don't Need Them

by Joe Carpenter

November 2, 2005

But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no reason to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves, like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose, they could blow the party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely, sooner or later, it must occur to them to do it? And yet . . . -- George Orwell, 1984

I've never understood the idea of speaking truth to power. The truth, surely, is that in almost all countries of the world, political and economic systems are designed to benefit only the rich and powerful, at the expense of those with less money and power. This is how the world works, and I see no reason to think that the powerful don't already understand that. After all, they designed it; they maintain it.

They steal our money, sacrifice our children in their wars, send the poorest and most victimized among us off to jail for petty mistakes, and crush those of us who might present a real threat to the arrangement. They know we don't like it. They don't care. They don't need to care. They also control most of our avenues of dissent. It's a very simple, very elegant design.

Meanwhile, we get angry and toddle off to tell the truth to the powerful. We have been telling them the truth for centuries. We travel to their great palaces by the hundreds of thousands, to express our anger and despair. We shout and sing and stomp and whine. We threaten. We plead. Sometimes we're beaten up, or sent to jail. It's a tradition of great courage and personal sacrifice, no doubt.

We go to tell them to stop using our money and our children and our energy and intelligence to further rob and rape and murder us. We tell them to be more respectful and compassionate. We're like angry but terrorized children, anxiously scolding our stern, all-powerful parents. And, in the end, we look to the Democrats or to some congressional panel or to the Supreme Court and demand that they come to our aid. As my friend Harry puts it: “We're left in the terrible position of trying to decide which elite group will be less likely to prey on us.”

Well, the government and their pals are not going to stop using and abusing us. They're not going to stop preying on us. They cannot stop! Republican or Democrat, they are rich and powerful precisely because they prey on us. They are rich because they rob us. They're robbing us right this minute. They are powerful because they dominate every aspect of our lives, because they've taken control of all the major social, political, economic, and communication systems in the world. These systems were designed to increase their wealth and power by taking both from all the rest of us.

But, we are not children, and they are not our parents. We're not little people and they are not big people. We're not insignificant and they are not significant. In fact, we do not need them.

They are very few and we, here in the US alone, are roughly 300 million. We don't need to rush out to tell the few that they are abusing the many. They already know that. We need to stand upright and walk out to tell the many that they are being slowly devoured by the few, for -- incredibly, they do not know. We need to look to our next door neighbors, and to their next door neighbors and to the folks all along the block. We need to tell the truth to each other -- for we are the answer.

While hundreds of thousands of anti-war demonstrators gathered in Washington, DC, back in September, hundreds of millions of American citizens went about their business without even a vague awareness of the protests. The media to which most of them attend barely mention such things -- obviously. And, most Americans don't live in the DC area, so they didn't see a thing.

Most Americans live in my neighborhood, or in your neighborhood. Most Americans eat breakfast right next to you in the local cafe. Most Americans get their car fixed at the same garage as you and I do. Most Americans visit my library, my bookstore, my grocery store, my local park -- or yours.

But the rich and powerful have convinced us that we cannot -- we must not -- communicate with the people we can see and hear and touch, right here, right now. They have convinced us that we need to travel to some government office to persuade elected officials and bureaucrats to change our world for us. The government and media drone on, endlessly, hypnotically, and convince us that if we just elect the right leaders, they'll talk to our next door neighbor for us.

Government programs, they promise us, will fix that gaping hole in the pavement right out beyond your driveway. Government will help poor Mrs. Wilson, languishing in the old, dilapidated house right across the street. Government will settle your dispute with that family right down the block. Government will take care of your neighbors who can't escape the hurricane:

'It's OK, just hop in the SUV and go, we'll take care of everything!' Government will help; government will heal; government will bring us together.

That's not going to happen, of course. The elites are too busy dividing us, setting us against each other, exacerbating every animosity, every misgiving, every anxiety, however slight. They insinuate themselves into every new crack and crevice and offer convoluted, expensive legislation and bureaucracies to bring us back together again. 'There oughta be a law,' says the old complaint. Well, there will be, to be sure -- but it will just make things worse.

We're all looking in the wrong place for reason and compassion and justice. It's not anywhere to be found in Washington, DC. It's not in governments or state houses. It's not there in that prestigious gathering of experts and big brains.

It's right here. It's wherever you are, and it's right next door and it's everywhere along your street and all around your neighborhood. It's in the cars that pass you on the roadways and in the shops where you buy your dog or cat food. There's no need to travel a thousand or even a hundred miles. It's not necessary to make the climb up to the penthouse. Our hope, our possibility -- our only hope, our only possibility, lies in the ordinary people who compose our world, who are the very stuff of our lives.

Want to change the world? Tell the truth to the plumber. Begin with the lady who hands you the stamps at the post office. Talk with the checkout people at the grocery store. Chat with the waiter at your favorite cafe. Speak with the cops who sit down at the next table. Gab for a few minutes with the guy who changes your oil or with the elementary school teacher with whom you've been discussing your child's future. Lean out of your window while stopped at the light and tell the truck driver some truth he's certain to recall and ponder.

Feel the need to march? Gather a bunch of folks and wander about your neighborhoods with signs and leaflets. When people walk by, stop and gab with them. When that huge guy with the Hemi-powered Ram pulls alongside and tells you to 'love it or leave it,' ask him to stay and talk. Smile, offer your hand, make nice. He's one of us. He'd make a wonderful ally. When a carload of high school jocks slows to offer some single-fingered communication, hand them some cold colas and tell them about the probability of a draft. They're our people, too. Convince yourself that this is so, then convince them.

Get together with like-minded people and think of simple, brief, meaningful ways to communicate with the folks all around you. Think about little things, easy things, immediate things. Think about what you can do together, and what you might accomplish alone. Think about your real day-to-day life, and how many opportunities there are to educate and enlighten, every day. Blab and babble and blunder and tell the truth, one ordinary person at a time. We're all ordinary people, and we are our only hope. Tell the truth to the guy who pumps out the septic tank -- he's one of us! Forget about telling the government, forget about the hot shots.

To the extent that we believe we need them, exactly to that extent will we continue our dependence upon ruthless, murderous plunderers, people entirely opposed to our needs and deepest longings. As long as we believe we need them, exactly that long will we live life on our knees, begging -- as Mickey Z. says -- for crumbs from their table.

The depth of our apparent need is the measure of their height above us. The nightmare of our poverty is our dream that they have a right to take our money. The illusion of our impotence is the chimera of their monstrous strength. We shall be slaves as long as we're convinced that we have masters, and not one moment longer.

Time to wake up, time to grow up. We're not children. We do not need to ask permission to live like sane, reasonable, thoughtful, compassionate human beings. We do not need to beg or bow or kneel. We do not need to look to government or to experts or to the rich and famous. Whatever we need, we can get it ourselves. Whatever we want to stop -- we can stop it ourselves. Whatever must be done, we can do it ourselves. We do not need them; we need each other.

All else is distraction and delusion.

Joe Carpenter is a guy living in Southern Oregon who has traveled extensively and kept his eyes open. He can be reached at:


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:36 | 3205265 IamtheREALmario
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Hey, I am willing to give it a try without elitists thinking they own the world, without wars, without debt slavery, without price fixing and power abuse through fiat money creation, without the overthrow of local government and assassinations, without descrimination, without captured lying propagandist media, without continous and intrusive spying, without discrimination, without a pokice state, without unfair and random laws, without drug running, without secrecy, without rigged markets, without suppressed technology, without hidden history  ....

Yup willing to give it a try without shithead elitists.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:50 | 3205849 Zwelgje
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"There is no try. Do or not do."


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 01:43 | 3205279 ebworthen
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Wait...someone presented that paper at the World Ponzinomic Forum at Davos's Headquarters?

Were the Daleks there?

Does Soros know?


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 02:27 | 3205336 sitenine
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Wait. There's actually a REASON our 'leaders' aren't leading beyond the fact that they are self righteous, self serving, ideological and pathological liars?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 03:42 | 3205382 AgShaman
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What happened to the pretty colors?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 04:05 | 3205402 AnAnonymous
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Different kinds of elite can not be lumped together.

The Chinese elite are submitted to different pressures than 'american' nations' elite. Differences that can lead the Chinese elite to be sentenced to death in some cases.
A vulnerable position indeed.

'Americanism' has provided the 'american' elite with extreme resilience.

The trouble for elite like the Chinese elite is they have not yet decentralized the autority of power exercise. They are therefore responsible.

In 'american' nations, responsibility is diluted.

The King class, the 'american' middle class empowers their elite but do not take responsibility for execution of power.

The elite, as simple executive staff that answers to orders from their masters, take no responsibility for their acts.

A very resilient structure is given.

The article also misportrays the 'american' middle class.

The 'american' middle class are served by their elite. Their elite is just front men to them.

So you can get 'american' middle classers pushing up for wars ('american' middle classers are addicted to war) and when the war is triggered, claim the whole responsibility lays with the elite.

Duplicity is a key word in 'americanism'

The staged discontment of the 'american' middle class to their elite is just that, staged. It does not represent the empowerment bind that exists between an 'american' middle class and its elite.

And usually, it ends with elite being rewarded, even though supposedly, they were hated by We The People.

Most chinese elite wish they get 'americanism' as soon as they can so they can be rewarded rather than punished.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 04:29 | 3205420 dunce
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The WEF failed to recognize that obama is the single most destabilizing factor in the world today which renders every thing they say as piffle. Even without that major flaw ,every point was hedged with if, and or but. Reading it was waste of time other than i learned not to read any their future platitudes.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 06:02 | 3205462 slackrabbit
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"Leaders of all kinds are becoming more vulnerable to their constituents"


What do you mean I actually have to give two fucks about my voters? When did this happen? 


but the best bit of this self congratulatory wankfast is

'Growing disenchantment with political leaders may discourage the best and brightest from entering politics in the first place.'


what fucking arrogance...

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 07:11 | 3205518 luckylongshot
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The problem is not so much the elites but the disproportional amount of power that the elites have. One possible solution is to focus on the power rather than on the elites. By reversing the flow of power from the periphary to a small elite in the middle and ensuring power is as widely spread as possible a better system is possible. Most major episodes of crimes against humanity occur when too much power is in the hands of too few pwoplw.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 07:32 | 3205537 verum quod lies
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After reading it I feel the need to first summarize what is said and implied, then I'd like to take a shower as I now feel dirty. Here are the key points to take away from it (i.e., the "elites" perspective as of today):

1) The centralization of power & one world government good, decentralization & nationalism is always bad.

2) Capitalism is now and going forward to be blamed for anything bad that happens; and it would be a crying shame if China blew up and that "model" was discredited.

3) The Internet is bad and needs to be controlled/regulated; for example, "a cyber Cuban crisis will lead to a code of conduct before we run into a cyber Pearl Harbor." Specifically, they are fearful of the Internet's ability to quickly provide the truth and would hate to see, for example, a Wiki leaks type expose of say the red Chinese's "leaders" graft and corruption.

4) They do not want to allow a country to leave the Euro zone because of their fear of "contagion". In short, we need to use the crisis to grab the brass ring of one federal government/"fiscal union" while the getting is good; and like a roach motel once you are in you only get out by being dead (i.e., economically and/or possibly physically).

5) Barry Soetoro is good and they are relying on him to continue globalization while most other elites back off and lick their wounds.

6) Slowly boiling the frog in the pot is the most effective strategy: "incremental steps are still steps in the right direction." In short, back off for now (i.e., except Barry) and look to not waste any crisis to push the memes of nationalism bad, capitalism bad, and overall things are so complex that we must keep globalizing trade and putting "reasonable" restrictions on things that are clearly out of control like the Internet or man caused "global warming".

Overall, I found it a useful read in that it shows where they are currently focused and will likely focus in the next year or two ahead. Nothing good for freedom lovers and Americans especially (i.e., there is some good news in that they are currently baffled by their seeming inability to push for more centralization of power and that, at least to me, is somewhat funny), but it's better to know than endlessly speculate and possibly the information can be used to effect countermeasures.


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 07:41 | 3205549 Fedaykinx
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/golf clap.  nice summation.  none of it was terribly surprising, the article just stated the obvious really.  they should be nervous that obumbler is going to go too far too fast though, some of us are feeling "kinda froggy."

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:15 | 3205731 kurt
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I say, sir, I like the cut of your jib! Spot on. Now I should like to enlist you to protect me and the good fellows down at the club. You, of course, may not be a member, but we may be willing to hire you as a lookout at our  "parties", oh the perversion, it's so titillating. We really have nothing better to do, being so booord and such, even that is getting tiresome. Some of the fellows feel a good old-fashion dust up, a war, is in order. We do enjoy watching the little people DIE. I'd write more but I'm spent.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:49 | 3205848 Monedas
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Good post .... but, stop with the Barry Saetoro .... his real father was Frank Marshall Davis .... a "Communist" on the CIA payroll !

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 18:44 | 3207727 verum quod lies
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While I personally would put the odds of Davis of being his biological father at just above 50%, his legal last name was (i.e., 100% known to be when it was changed to that name), and likely still is, Soetoro (also, I believe it's Soetoro not Saetoro). That is, he never had it legally changed to whatever he tells others to call himself now a days. So, no I will not stop trying to lend some accuracy to my name calling. Oh, and not exactly wanting to be pedantic, yes, he could be most accurately described as a usurping cultural Marxist racist (i.e., anti-white) homosexual narcisisstic dullard (I probably left out a few terms, but you get the idea) with the legal last name of Soetoro who's actual biological father might be a communist pornographic deviant with the last name of Davis. There, do are fine with that description (i.e., is it accurate enough for you)?


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 18:44 | 3207728 verum quod lies
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While I personally would put the odds of Davis of being his biological father at just above 50%, his legal last name was (i.e., 100% known to be when it was changed to that name), and likely still is, Soetoro (also, I believe it's Soetoro not Saetoro). That is, he never had it legally changed to whatever he tells others to call himself now a days. So, no I will not stop trying to lend some accuracy to my name calling. Oh, and not exactly wanting to be pedantic, yes, he could be most accurately described as a usurping cultural Marxist racist (i.e., anti-white) homosexual narcisisstic dullard (I probably left out a few terms, but you get the idea) with the legal last name of Soetoro who's actual biological father might be a communist pornographic deviant with the last name of Davis. There, do are fine with that description (i.e., is it accurate enough for you)?


Fri, 02/01/2013 - 08:08 | 3205578 Cloud9.5
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Every dick that was a dictator who found himself in a bunker needing to blow his brains out always blamed the event on the follower’s failure to follow.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:06 | 3205703 Overflow-admin
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RST for all!

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:06 | 3205705 Monedas
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Capitalism heals and serves in a million ways .... Socialism corrupts and destroys in a million ways !

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:40 | 3205822 Monedas
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All new housing should be for the elite .... then everyone else gets to move up .... if they have earned the right .... by serving humanity in the free market !   In a pure Capitalist society .... you get what you deserve .... by being helpful and productive .... and interacting peacefully in the market place .... like a gentleman !

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 12:30 | 3206439 knowless
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it's just all the false binaries man, if you need a guiding philosophy then cobble one together like the rest of us.

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