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Guest Post: How I Reached My Breaking Point Ten Years Ago

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

Exactly ten years ago to the day, I was in the Kuwaiti desert waiting for George W. Bush to ‘make his decision’.

You may remember the circumstances. Ever since labeling Iraq, Iran, and North Korea the ‘Axis of Evil’ in January 2002, the President had been gradually advocating war with Iraq based on the threat of nuclear weapons.

We knew it was going to happen. At the time, I was a rising intelligence officer, my head still filled with ideals of national duty from my time at West Point.

One of the generals that I served under gathered together his officers in early 2002 and said, “We’re going to war. It’s not a question of IF, but WHEN.”

By late summer of that year, my unit was ordered to Kuwait to pre-position assets and begin gathering boots on the ground intelligence. So every time Mr. Bush would say “I haven’t made a decision yet,” I winced from the heavy stench of his BS.

But still, I held out hope.

It all came crashing down ten years ago today. On February 5, 2003 Colin Powell, four-star general turned US Secretary of State, made a case to the United Nations that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

Now, I won’t bother delving into the inaccuracies of the intelligence he presented. In Powell’s own words, making that presentation to the UN was “the lowest point in [his] life” and a “lasting blot on his record.”

For me, it was pivotal. At that instant, I knew without doubt that my government had reprehensibly lied through its teeth. And if they were lying about this... what else were they lying about?

Everything, it turned out.

The event set me down a path on which I never looked back. The fraud of the Iraq War soon led to the frauds of previous wars, our monetary system, taxes, the global banking system, the national balance sheet, the police state, etc.

It all unraveled so quickly, and I soon realized that I was not living in a free country... that all the loud, bombastic nonsense and pledges of allegiance were illusions masking modern day serfdom.

The subsequent ten years have only reinforced this trend. The political and banking elite have given us more war, inflation, and epic financial crises. They’ve turned Western civilization into a giant police state. And they’ve managed to brainwash the great masses so effectively that the people are crying out for more.

And yet, there are solutions.

After an emotional, gut-wrenching awakening, I traveled to more than 100 countries looking for freedom and opportunity. I learned that awareness, prudent planning, and global thinking can rebuild much of our stolen liberty.

Quite simply, you don’t put all of your eggs in one basket. History shows that when governments enter a period of terminal decline, they try to control EVERYTHING– wages, prices, borders, money supply, foreign exchange, private property, etc.

Of course, these tactics never work and only hasten the decline, as everyone from Emperor Diocletian of ancient Rome to Argentina’s modern day President Cristina Fernandez [will] have learned.

As destructive as these politicians are, though, they’re easy to defeat. Individuals who take action early have plenty of options to buy precious metals, move a portion of their savings abroad to a stable banking jurisdiction, and scout out locations overseas in case they ever need to get out of dodge.

These steps make sense no matter what. It’s hard to imagine that you’ll be worse off for shipping a few physical ounces of gold abroad, having some savings stashed away in a healthy foreign bank, or taking control of your retirement account.

However if it’s a bumpy road ahead– gold criminalization, capital controls, pension fund confiscation, etc.– you’ll be well ahead of the crowd.

I had to reach my breaking point before taking these steps. Fortunately I was early. Most people either ignore the writing on the wall… or they won’t do anything until it’s too late and there are no more options. I’m willing to bet that you’re different.


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Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:34 | 3217202 Say What Again
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Is there anything that can be done to stop the Bernank?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:40 | 3217228 dick cheneys ghost
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Truth Serum (see ''Kill Bill'' final scene)

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:44 | 3217239 The Juggernaut
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The People should first stop paying taxes because the Federal Reserve can pay it for them.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:47 | 3217247 Say What Again
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OK folks.

Buckly your seat belts.

Here comes the new high on ES -- 1511 and beyond.

When will this insanity EVER end?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:53 | 3217274 TerminalDebt
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"I’m willing to bet that you’re different."


I'm willing to bet that most people will do nothing. I'm also willing to bet that some people will talk about it then do nothing. And others will complaint about it and do nothing. Others will tell you how you should do something about it, while they do nothing themself.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:54 | 3217280 Say What Again
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What would YOU do about it?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:59 | 3217301 redpill
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Well the Gunpowder Plot of 1605 didn't work out too well, which is too bad, it sounded like a decent idea.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:20 | 3217382 Popo
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Simon Black's biography changes every day.  Now he was an "intelligence officer"?  LOL.  Please.  What a douche.

Of course, before he became "Sovereign Man" he wrote a PDF on Network Infiltration (look it up) in which he teaches you how to create a false identity for yourself to sucker investors into any project.

So I guess it's no surprise that he's doing that here.   He's a modern day Walter Mitty.   Intelligence officer?    Only in his mind...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:31 | 3217427 redpill
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He also used to talk about Panama all the time before they folded like a cheap suit when the US Gov demanded they hand over financial details on American citizens.  I feel bad for anyone that moved their assets there prior to that based on his advice.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:53 | 3217529 Chupacabra-322
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if you think that's bad the following is really going to piss you off.

The same terrorist the Criminals claim to be protecting us from are the same ones they're arming, tranining and funding through NATO, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lybia, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc...

We are the terrorists.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:36 | 3217709 TruthInSunshine
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Simon Black's Top Ten Reasons That You're Not Worried About What Lay Ahead


10)   You're In the Sahara

9)     You're In Uganda

8)     You're In Myanmar (Not Burma)

7)     You're In Phuket

6)     You've Got 2 Tickets To Paradise (so pack your bags, you leave tonight)

5)     You've Offshored Yourself

4)     You're Bernie Madoff

3)     You've Reconstituted Yourself As A Bermuda Corporation (You're A Person, But You Can't Vote)

2)     You're In Istanbul (Not Constantinople)


And Simon Black's Number 1 Reason That You're Not Worried About What Lay Ahead <drum roll>.....


1)    You're The Hon. Jon S. Corzine, with a strong pimp hand, and you can't be bothered, bitchez

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:54 | 3217770 Jumbotron
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Simon Black's Top Ten Reasons That You're Not Worried About What Lay Ahead


10)   You're In the Sahara

9)     You're In Uganda

8)     You're In Myanmar (Not Burma)

7)     You're In Phuket

6)     You've Got 2 Tickets To Paradise (so pack your bags, you leave tonight)

5)     You've Offshored Yourself

4)     You're Bernie Madoff

3)     You've Reconstituted Yourself As A Bermuda Corporation (You're A Person, But You Can't Vote)

2)     You're In Istanbul (Not Constantinople)


And Simon Black's Number 1 Reason That You're Not Worried About What Lay Ahead <drum roll>.....


1)    You're The Hon. Jon S. Corzine, with a strong pimp hand, and you can't be bothered, bitchez


Number 7 is where I'm at now......Phucket.....just Phucket all.  And the whole non-sense about moving money overseas and buying metal.....really?  Idiot.....your money is a colletction of zero bits and one bits.  Easy enough to hack that....and metal....easy enough to tax out of existence, confiscate it, outlaw it and make illegal to hold it.  Been done before when the shit REALLY hit the fan int eh 30's.  Plus...not to mention that if you're smart enough to get away with it from what I just mentioned....who will be brave enough to transact with you?  And for a fair enough exchange.....when the shit REALLY REALLY hits the fan?  I venture not many at all to be worth the trouble. 

It's a Prison Planet.  Without Moonbase Alpha floating through the cosmos....there's nowhere to go and nowhere to least in the long run.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:55 | 3217987 Pure Evil
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I think shilling for Obama was Powell's lowest point in his career.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 19:03 | 3218023 TruthInSunshine
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I bet Powell has some much worse skeletons in his closet. It's almost as if they have some nasty pictures of him engaged in pure debauchery, or something...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:05 | 3218130 TwoShortPlanks
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Shall we take this questioning of morality back a little further?

In March-April 1989 there was a Pre-Gulf War I (the Persian Gulf War) build-up exercise. Units had been preparing for this for 18mths prior. The exercise was called Caltrop Force 1989.

A Pre-Gulf War.....WTF?! Yup, that's right! Even though Saddam's Army did not invade Kuwait until early August 1990, a full 17mths after Caltrop, and a full 3 years after the initial planning phase of Caltrop.

Caltrop Force was to assess 'Interoperability' of Australian, British, Canadian and American Forces.......Exactly who comprised the 'Coalition of the willing'?

Google it, see for yourself.

Now, just for kicks, take a look at the 'Enter Service' dates for the Abrams Tank and the Apache Helicopter. Be mindful that it takes about 5 years to proof and mod equipment before it's known to be battle ready.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:15 | 3218528 Imminent Crucible
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"Saddam's Army did not invade Kuwait until early August 1990, a full 17mths after Caltrop"

One other thing: Saddam did not invade Kuwait until he had effectively gained permission from U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie: "We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America."

The State Dept then pretended to be astounded when Iraq invaded Kuwait a week later.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 21:26 | 3218421 de3de8
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I was there some time ago, before aids. What a place to enjoy. Have fun, I'm jealous!

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:39 | 3218620 Groundhog Day
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It's a prison planet.  That's why they are building a space station for the super rich when they use the nukes.  Remember uncle warren said it is a mathematical certainty

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:07 | 3221741 Tompooz
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"prison planet". Look at the positive side: no better stimulus for the evolution of  private enterprise spaceflight. Watch Larry Allison e.a. 

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:58 | 3217544 Motorhead
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Correction:  a [self-proclaimed] "rising" intelligence officer.  Oh, and now he's a West Point "ring knocker".  Geeesh.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:15 | 3217620 The Tilden Flash
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Agreed.  This also puts into question his claim of losing his virginity at that Canadian summer camp before his sophomore year.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:25 | 3217661 Transformer
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This is funny.... "having some savings stashed away in a healthy foreign bank..."  I appreciate that Simon is waking up, but there's more to look at.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:20 | 3217874 TheGardener
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That story makes him credible , even though on a downward
slope with not many rabbits to pull out hence forth.

His simple minded talkative mumblings smelled of synagogue
hectic running back and forth in a world he failed to take command off, so I assumed there was an individual talking
about his coming about in his diaspora.

Turns out he is an eternal Jew after all.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:58 | 3218007 logicalman
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Voted Guy Fawkes - the only man to ever enter the House of Parliament with honest intentions.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:06 | 3217343 mr1963
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Try convincing the wife. I'm down to buying 18k gold bracelets for her at just a little over spot just to get some assets out of cash. As for the retirement plan confiscation, I just can't get her to see it.

Slowly, but the best I can do now short of divorce.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:09 | 3217362 CH1
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Well, something is better than nothing.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:10 | 3217364 economics9698
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That 3.63 IQ gap between men and women is the Grand Canyon.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:32 | 3217434 aka Gil
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And then there's the other gap that we worship to the point where it's nearly impossible to deny them anything.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:04 | 3217821 SilverIsKing
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Tue, 02/05/2013 - 19:17 | 3218084 Pure Evil
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If you divorce the wife you'll lose more in the long run compared to what you might save, unless its millions, from the retirement account.

If you've got kids, imagine what you'll be paying in alimony and child support till the kids turn 25.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 21:40 | 3218448 flacon
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<<< Male readers click here

<<< Female readers click here


Case closed. 

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:27 | 3217673 Stuntgirl
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That is, by far, the stupidest thing I have read on zero hedge comments.

And mind, it's not easy to win that spot.


Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:28 | 3217904 Freddie
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Women and men think differently.   Women are more about security so the elites con them that way.

Men get conned by TV and Hollywood with sex, ball games and shoot em up shit.

Women get conned by TV and Hollywood with Oprah, Ellen, chick films. 

Stupid sheep watch TV and movies aka Operation Mockingbird.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:57 | 3218000 illyia
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That is true.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:21 | 3218555 Imminent Crucible
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What's stuntgirl got her knickers in a twist over? Everyone knows that women are a little smarter than men. How does she think they get us to marry them?

Do you think we'd marry you IF WE WEREN'T STUPID?  For crying out loud.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 04:39 | 3219267 Stuntgirl
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My knickers were in a twist because I expected some rational advice to the problem presented. ie:

Have you evaluated your wife's prior knowledge?

Have you evaluated your communication performance? The strength of her normalcy bias? Accounted for her mourning period?

98% of spouses of both sexes worldwide think they are smarter than their partner. LOL

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 10:02 | 3219656 Imminent Crucible
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"Accounted for her mourning period?"


I did take account of her periods, but I didn't worry much about the time of day.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 19:13 | 3218064 kekekekekekeke
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Tue, 02/05/2013 - 20:19 | 3218263 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That is, by far, the stupidest thing I have read on zero hedge comments.

You ain't been around here long, have you?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 23:57 | 3218893 Ballin D
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what ever happened to that udder guy with the milk fetish from a few months back?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 04:42 | 3219269 Stuntgirl
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Oh, wow. I missed that one.

My top 3 are pretty tame then...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 20:30 | 3218292 Irwin Fletcher
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Best ZH comment in weeks. It's funny because it's true.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:39 | 3218622 dark pools of soros
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says the 14 week old cunt

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 04:44 | 3219272 Stuntgirl
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Because membership time = reading time. Gotcha.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:26 | 3217662 dogbreath
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Start researching the Red Pill men.  You need to protect yourself.   see the article and comments divorcelike a champ, but delete your browsing history

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:58 | 3217298 zapdude
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Exactly.  This is the perfect question to try to dash cold water into the face of a zombie sheeple:  "Since we have these enormous deficits and so many people are on hard times, why can't the Fed just print enough money so that we don't have to pay taxes anymore?"

If their IQ is higher than room temperature and they're not a devout Keynesian, it could lead them to finding the truth.  The absurdity of the question makes them think. That's been my experience, anyway.  It doesn't always work however.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:55 | 3217536 espirit
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Wow, that means that people in the South have a higher IQ because their room temperatures are also higher?

I'll have to think about that.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:29 | 3217683 Transformer
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That's right, we southerners are just inherently smarter.  That what the Rangel guy was talking about when he said their was southern culture to overcome.  It aint culture, it's just plain intelligence.  You folks from the NE think you are so smart and aware and hip, but really, you're just sheeple, with very little rights, and no way to defend yourself.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 20:45 | 3218327 IrritableBowels
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Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:33 | 3218594 dark pools of soros
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'you think we talk slow because we dumb..' oh wait ..umm which is which?


Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:27 | 3218574 Imminent Crucible
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Our room temperatures are not neither higher down here in the South. We gots air conditioning. Can't you northern folks invent anything?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:39 | 3217230 true brain
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"At the time, I was a rising intelligence officer, my head still filled with ideals of national duty from my time at West Point."


Did they tell you at west point that your true masters are the bankster, not the people of US, not the government? West Point is one sad propaganda machine and is filled with dimwit full of testosterone.

And no, there is nothing that can stop Bernanke.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:42 | 3217238 francis_sawyer
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musta pinched a few bars of gold while he was there to fund his hob-nobbing adventures...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:50 | 3217268 Poetic injustice
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Or few pallets of dollars sent to Iraq later.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 08:24 | 3219399 Obadiah
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Funny you say that I know a contractor who spoke of those "pallets of hundreded dollar bills" he protected so a nsa agent could buy off the afgan worlords.  Frekin sad but true.


"The Devils aa tricky motherf___cker brotha"

--Richard Pryor 1979

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:15 | 3221757 Tompooz
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"pallets of hundreded dollar bills". Did he also know those who dusted the bills with traceable chemicals so that their flow could be analyzed?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:03 | 3217328 Bob
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I was wondering the same thing.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:59 | 3217305 IamtheREALmario
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Banksters? You are still thinking too small.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:03 | 3217323 KCMLO
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Also coming from an military intelligence background, I can totally understand this sort of "epiphany." I left after my 6 year enlistment for similar reasons (but more selfishly motivated, I was done putting my life on the line for someone else's cause).  It's strange because even starting off as a grunt like I did, the overall training of some of my elder sergeants taught some great analytical skills.  The kicker is that almost everything we analyzed in foreign intelligence was predicated with the US in the position of "being right."  I had some supervisors that helped me immensely by freeing myself of that thought process.   Suddenly analysis became MUCH easier since we were able to understand "enemy" motivations that much better.  Sometimes they were getting fucked over, sometimes we were just pissing in their cheerios.  Sometimes they actually were particularly evil fucks.  The military is filled with incredibly bright people but they aren't just trained to follow orders without question, they enter with the belief (and then further indoctrinated while in) that the US (and our allies) is wholly a source for good on the world stage.  That's an impossible claim for ANY country.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:27 | 3217408 lakecity55
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I began thinking of it in terms of "this has been going on since the first cave-man war over the best water-hole."

Sometimes the other guys beat everyone up in their caveman club, and we took over and let them go free, more or less.

Sometimes we took the water-hole because we could, or to have extra water stashed for our cave man club.


Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:39 | 3217459 NidStyles
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Most people do not understand military personnel.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:01 | 3217568 Ricky Bobby
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In your opinion then what percentage of active duty will fire on American citizens?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:35 | 3217926 Freddie
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They will pull a false flag tyhat will be on shit TV.  Some crazed patriot will shoot up some kids.  Maybe a white guy shooting multiracial group of kids.   Or blow up some buildings.   They will also have back up with gangs and other people. 

The U.S. mlitary is all over the world getting killed and maimed because they don't want them here.   This is what Rome did. They did not want patriots in Rome to stop the Senate from looting Rome. 

They will also use food.  If you are grunt being fed while everyone is starving and the wife and kids are snug and warm on base housing....

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:07 | 3217595 kliguy38
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You did it because YOU ARE OWNED......We are controlling much of the world for the corporate masters and THEIR puppetmasters........War makes them money WHATEVER the outcome......the more chaos the more dinero. DEBT is the ultimate outcome of war and debt drives it all.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 20:50 | 3218347 prains
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being an outside observer of the american "dream" i have to say there are many people around the world (including myself) that have known all you describe for decades by just simple observation.

what should be added to your correct analysis (from within) is that you can and should extrapolate your ideas now to help explain the entire american cultural condition. 

ZHers affectionately call it

Guns, Gold, Girls and more Guns

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 21:05 | 3218385 DosZap
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You have it down pat.

The latest GUN GRAB(People Control), has awakened the masses oif Sheeple.

A FULL 65% of all owners in the latest poll said NO MATTER what bans and registrations are passed, they WILL NOT comply.

This time it appears push has come to shove, and we are not willing to be shoved any longer.

Example, Father of a student from SandyHook before the GUN VIOLENCE panel.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:10 | 3217365 kliguy38
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well said

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:14 | 3217372 smacker
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Lots. but mostly illegal.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:54 | 3217517 yourfather
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I have come to the conclusion that Simon black is God. He is everywhere, sees everything and knows everyone and what to do. Why must God punish us if he can fix all our problems. I hate you God

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:30 | 3217911 Mr Pink
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What else could they lie about?  Ohhh...IDK.... the destructive power of jet fuel comes to mind

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:52 | 3217973 Agstacker
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What can men do against such reckless hate? 

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:32 | 3218596 Imminent Crucible
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They can get a sailboat. If you paint starfish and stingrays on the deck, it will be invisible from the air when you're moored in Bahia Concepcion.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:35 | 3217208 Tim Brasco
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USDCHF: The pair may be struggling to recover higher but continues to hold on to its bearish medium term bias. A failure of its recovery attempts could mean a return to the 0.9082 level and then the 0.9021 level.

Read more: USDCHF- Bear Threats Still Seen. - Expert Trading Community - Traddr™

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:40 | 3217233 fuu
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Link pimping...serious businessTM.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:45 | 3217248 redpill
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Better odds on a craps table in Vegas than in FOREX these days...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:39 | 3217225 I need more cowbell
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It was 10 years ago this very night, on this same stretch of road....

The big difference there wasn't another shitty Simon Black thinly veiled commercial at the end.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:42 | 3217236 The Gooch
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Word has it, Large Marge is living abroad.

She has her gold on 4 continents.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:01 | 3217311 ParkAveFlasher
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"I'm a loner, Dotty, a rebel.  A rebel with a Uruguayan alpaca-jetpack ranch and CIA skittle factory." - Simon Black

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 20:59 | 3218370 DosZap
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Word has it, Large Marge is living abroad.

She has her gold on 4 continents.


Then Large Marge, has no gold,because the Octopus tentacles of this NWO will steal it before she ever gets to it.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 21:07 | 3218390 The Gooch
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Don't underestimate Marge.

She has a blog called Sovereign Marge that tells of her global conquest and hints at her commando past.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:53 | 3217528 Vlad Tepid
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And when they pulled the Constitution's twisted body...out of the burning looked like THISBELBELEBLENBEBELE!!!!!!

So sad...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:35 | 3218605 Imminent Crucible
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I'm not sure I would publicly admit to having watched Peewee Herman.  Still, I had to give you the Up Arrow, just for making me laugh out loud.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:43 | 3217232 francis_sawyer
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 "After an emotional, gut-wrenching awakening, I traveled to more than 100 countries looking for freedom and opportunity"


Why don't you spend the next decade scouring the local galaxy cluster & report back to us with your findings after you're done?...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:48 | 3217261 GubbermintWorker
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LOL! Who down voted this? Simon?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:52 | 3217272 I need more cowbell
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Francis, already been done. The answer is 42.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:02 | 3217314 francis_sawyer
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Well ~ then there's other useful recon that could be accomplished... Like where are all the good gay discos...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:09 | 3217831 Thisson
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Lesbos, duh!

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:03 | 3217322 IamtheREALmario
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Personally I like the Vedic outline of how one is supposed to spend their life. It is divided by quarters of 20 to 25 years each

Q1 Youth and growing up

Q2 Create you Familiy and Business

Q3 Head of into the forest and learn/contemplate about the world

Q4 Teach

Just 5 or 6 years into my learning cycle and once I think I have it, I get slammed with all sorts of new information that lets me know that I do not have a clue.

But, I did not come from a family, such as Simon's.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:42 | 3217235 Bastiat
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When sociopaths have the actual weapons of mass destruction I'm not sure any place on the planet is safe.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:13 | 3217368 DaveyJones
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and that's just their cyberwarfare

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:43 | 3217242 Ignatius
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" And if they were lying about this... what else were they lying about?  Everything, it turned out."

** 9/11 **

Not their biggest crime, but the one that justifies everything else.

Break 9/11 and you literally 'break the bank'.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:48 | 3217260 Tsar Pointless
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It's been a den of lies for about 50 years now. I think it started with JFK's assassination.

Or perhaps even further back to 1864, with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.

Either way, it's been a long, LONG time.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:50 | 3217266 mayhem_korner
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Try Cain & Abel.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:55 | 3217779 Carl Spackler
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You , my friend, are a real historian.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:53 | 3217278 Ignatius
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Ditto JFK.

Lincoln paid the karmic price of bringing war to the nation.  The south might still be waging a guerilla campaign today, but Lincoln's death drained the energy for that IMHO.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:01 | 3217313 mayhem_korner
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So the government was righteous, forthright, and upstanding up until JFK?  Better read up...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:04 | 3217331 Ignatius
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You think that was my point?

You infer a lot, friend....

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:19 | 3217383 mayhem_korner
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What does "Ditto JFK" mean in reply to Tsar Pointless' post that "it [the lying] started with JFK"?  What other point could anyone infer from that?

Maybe lucidity is just too big a word for you...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:36 | 3217447 Ignatius
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The question is: "lying to who?"  JFK was a popular President.

They put a bullet in his head in the middle of the street in a parade.

As for the "lucidity" comment, go fuck yourself.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:42 | 3217471 mayhem_korner
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Ah must have made that point in white font.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:58 | 3217794 Carl Spackler
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Well played, sir !

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:17 | 3217863 Ignatius
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Where he sees 'white font', others employ their minds and think.


Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:04 | 3217577 Chupacabra-322
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@ Ignatius, perhaps the following will convice him and these are old estimates.

·   "The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that from the CIA's inception in 1947 to 1987, 6 million people had died as a result of CIA covert operations."

Throw in another 2 million from 1987 to 2007, interpolated from the above estimate.

"At least 869,720 people have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq since the U.S. and coalition attacks, based on lowest credible estimates." So let's call that another 1 million.


That makes 9 million total.



Strange Deaths:

CIA Director William Colby

Deborah Jeane Palfrey ~ D.C. Madam

Mike Connell ~ Ohio Election Fraud

Paul Wellstone ~ Election, 9/11

Gary Webb ~ investigative journalist

Jim Hatfield ~ Bush author


·         Pat Tillman ~ Patriot

Hunter S. Thompson ~ Gannon-9/11-Intro to LC

Dr. Bruce Ivins ~ Anthrax

Lori Klausutis ~ aide to Joe Scarborough

Beverly Eckert ~ 9/11 widow plane crash

Dr. David Kelly ~ British Weapons Inspector

Barry Jennings ~ WTC 7 Whistleblower

John O'Neill ~ worked in WTC first day

Dr. David Graham ~ 9/11 Whistleblower

JFK Jr. ~ Journalist, Potential Candidate

Mel Carnahan ~ Democratic Governor of Missouri

Colonel Sabow ~ Whistleblower and Marine

Col. Ted Westhusing ~ Returning home from Iraq

Gary Caradori ~ investigating the Franklin Cover Up




Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:08 | 3217600 Chupacabra-322
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While were at it, lets add the following;

Siddhartha Gautama (Buddha): died of food poisoning in the year 483 B.C. , assassination?

Jesus of Nazareth : crucified around the year 30 A.D.

Muhammad Ibn Abdullah: died on June 8, 632 A.D., suffered for several days with head pain and weakness, probably poisoned at Jaibar.

Capt. William Morgan: disappeared on September 11, 1826, probably killed by Freemasons.

Abraham Lincoln: assassinated on April 15, 1865.

Alexander II Nikolaevich: assassinated on March 13, 1881.

James Abram Garfield: was shot on July 2 and died on September 19, 1881.

William McKinley: was shot on September 5 and died on September 14, 1901.

Archduke of Austria Franz Ferdinand: assassinated on June 14, 1914.

Augustín Farabundo Martí Rodríguez: assassinated on February 1, 1932.

Augusto Nicolás Calderón Sandino: assassinated on February 21, 1934.

Huey Pierce Long: assassinated on September 10, 1935.

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi: assassinated on January 30, 1948.

Inejiro Asanuma: assassinated on October 12, 1960.

Patrice Émery Lumumba: assassinated on January 17, 1961.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy: assassinated on November 22, 1963.

Lee Harvey Oswald: assassinated on November 24, 1963.

Malcom X (El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz): assassinated on February 21, 1965.

Ernesto ¨Che¨ Guevara: assassinated on October 9, 1967.

Martin Luther King Jr.: assassinated on April 4, 1968.

Robert Francis Kennedy: assassinated on June 6, 1968.

Fred Hampton: assassinated on December 4, 1969.

Salvador Isabelino Allende Gossens: assassinated on September 11, 1973, some investigations point out that it is unlikely that he commited suicide with a rifle.

General Carlos Prats González: assassinated on September 30, 1974.

Marcos Orlando Letelier del Solar: assassinated on September 21, 1976.

Pedro Joaquín Chamorro Cardenal: assassinated on January 10, 1978.

Aldo Moro: assassinated on May 9, 1978.

Georgi Ivanov Markov: assassinated on September 11, 1978.

Pope John Paul I: presumably poisoned on September 28, 1978.

Leo Joseph Ryan Jr.: assassinated on November 18, 1978.

Monseñor Óscar Arnulfo Romero y Galdámez: assassinated on March 24, 1980.

Nesta Robert ¨Bob¨ Marley:
In his revealing book, Marley And Me, former Wailers manager Don Taylor notes that an unknown doctor came and gave Bob a still unknown injection in his toe right after the ball game was interrupted. Malignant cancer originating in the same toe, was diagnosed some time after.
Died on May 11, 1981.

Muhammad Anwar El Sadat: assassinated on October 6, 1981.

Lawrence Patton McDonald: assassinated with 268 people on the Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown on September 1, 1983.

Benigno Servillano "Ninoy" Aquino Jr.: assassinated on August 21, 1983.

Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi: assassinated on October 31, 1984.

Olof Palme: assassinated on February 28, 1986.

Winston Hubert McIntosh ¨Peter Tosh¨: assassinated on 11 September, 1987.

Francisco Alves Mendes Filho Cena: assassinated on December 22, 1988.

Patrick "Pat" Finucane: assassinated on February 12, 1989.

Huey P. Newton: assassinated on August 22, 1989.

Rajiv Ratna Gandhi: assassinated on 21 May, 1991.

Luis Donaldo Colosio Murrieta: assassinated on March 23, 1994.

Philip Schneider: assassinated around January 15, 1996.

Tupac Amaru Shakur: got shot on September 7 and died on September 13, 1996.

Yitzhak Rabin: assassinated on November 4, 1995.

Diana Princess of Wales: died in a car ¨accident¨ on August 31, 1997


John Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr.:
During three exclusive interviews with, the ex-operative told us the final classified report specifically said JFK Jr.s plane broke in half just aft of the cabin. The damage was caused by a plastique (C-4) shape charge which was formed along the bottom of the fuselage and up along both sides of the walls. The charge was caused to be set off or exploded with a large spark generated by a barometric switch device triggered by the altitude of the plane. In other words, the assassins chose the altitude for the explosion of the plane--a standard procedure to make the targets murder look like an accident.
Died on July 16, 1999.

Milton William ¨Bill¨ Cooper: assassinated on November 5, 2001.

John Edward Mack: killed by a ¨drunken driver¨ on September 27, 2004.

Rafic Baha El Deen Al-Hariri: assassinated on February 14, 2005.

Benazir Bhutto: assassinated on December 27, 2007

Land of the Free Home of the Brave!!!

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:06 | 3217822 Carl Spackler
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Conspicuously, your list omits one Michael Jackson...the King of Pop.

He was poisoned, as well!

Other than that, I have no clue what you point is intended to be.  Do you know what it is intended to be?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:46 | 3218642 dark pools of soros
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What about JR from Dallas??  who shot JR??

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:45 | 3217947 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Ernesto ¨Che¨ Guevara: assassinated on October 9, 1967

In all fairness, Che was executed, not assassinated. I still give him props, but he knew it was coming. Ask Simon, he was there as a covert op.....

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:47 | 3217957 Freddie
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I watched a video on JFK Jr.  and it was supposedly a Bush clan for GW to makes his bonesman bones.   I kind of discounted that and could have been the Clintons because the kid could have beaten anyone in NY.  I loathe the Kennedys but the kid seemed like a decent person.

A real libtard woman who was well connected on the cocktail circuit during Camelot said it was Ari's kid not JFK's.  She had contact with Ari before the kid was born.  JFK Jr.  does not look like a Kennedy at all.  No irish kennedy teeth, not fair complexion, dark hair, etc. 

Anyway - the most credible thing in the video was the Navy search took forever.  A search to 10 + hours to start. JFK Jr. never flew without an instructor friend.  The idea was the friend pilot body was removed while Teddy was playing McHale's Navy.  The problem is who is the missing pilot.


Another person murdered was Cord Meyer's wife who was sleeping with JFK.  Cord Meyer was tasked with starting Operation Mockingbird - the CIA controlling journalists, TV and Hollywood.   WA Post, NY Times, et al.

His wife was killed walking in a park in Maryland in broad daylight shortly after JFK was killed.  Cord Meyer supposedly was part of killing JFK.  Close to death - he said they killed his wife.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:49 | 3218654 dark pools of soros
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the only people who are libtards and repubs are people who use those terms..  the elite aren't either and laugh at fools that think there are any sides beside IN and OUT

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:58 | 3217981 TheGardener
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Thanks for mentioning Tupac : la la lala la all you niggers die,
GHADDAFI, Idi Amin...all you motherfuckers die in the end...

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:16 | 3217622 mayhem_korner
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Convince me of what?  What point are you (feebly) attempting to make?  My one (and only) point is that lying by people in authority pre-dates Kennedy, the Fed, Lincoln, and any other historical date you can name.  Ignatius didn't like that I challenged what I interpreted (pretty clearly) as his view that "it started with JFK".

If you don't have anything to add to that discussion, maybe save some space for others... 

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 21:22 | 3218413 TerraHertz
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Don't forget:

John Lennon, assasinated 8 December 1980, by the CIA after he'd begun researches into the CIA's misdeeds.

General George S. Patton, assasinated 1945.

and more (a folder list, sorry about formatting):

20071227_Benazir Bhutto
20130113_Aaron Swartz
Anwar al-Awlaki
Deborah Palfrey_DC_madam
Gordon Kahl_murder_of
Herman Rockefeller
Jean Charles de Menezes
Russian Patriarch Alexy II

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:20 | 3217387 The Gooch
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I'm thinking 1913.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:26 | 3217405 Shell Game
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..and 1861.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:32 | 3217430 Buckaroo Banzai
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Russell Trust Association, founded in 1856.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:00 | 3217559 johnQpublic
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prior to the magna carta or they would not have needed it

prior to the christ or they would not have needed him

prior to the judaic religion or they would not have needed it

prolly all started some time back when those brassish arifacts were encased in what became coal 300 million years later

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 19:09 | 3218047 TheGardener
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Nietzsche was a bit more polite accusing mankind being full circle AGAIN this time around and in need of religion.

Davila added that all the major religions started about the
same time. Conveniently leaving out later obscure heresy
teachings now falling under religious tolerance for no
reason except false tolerance every religion warns you of.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:33 | 3217440 fuu
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Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:26 | 3217394 Dangertime
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Actually, Lincoln promised to evacuate Fort Sumter.  But then reneged on his promise as a resupply fleet, which was held back by a storm, awaited entry into Charleston.


The South was faced with the choice of seizing the Fort for their own, or waiting for it to be resupplied by the opposing army.  This is no choice at all, and thus they were written into history with the stigma of firing the first shot.


For a great read, try "War Cycles, Peace Cycles" By Richard Kelly Hoskins.  He will show you just how far back the banking powers go and what they did to gain control of nations over and over again.


The best part?  He cites all of his sources, many of which are book and news periodicals going back to pre-civil war times.  Including the fact that the North was in a Depression with all sorts of bankrupt municipalities just prior to the civil war, while the south had little to no debt, mainly as a result of their religious beliefs about borrowing.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:58 | 3218003 Freddie
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It was a war of economic aggression.   The South was well off and exporting plus growing food. The north was broke.  The banksters wanted to steal the wealth of the south.  After the war their carpetbagger agents moved into the south.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 21:01 | 3218376 player333
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Good point DangerT I knew Richard Hoskins personally. An educated man with many interesting ideas and opinions. It is a shame he lost his job because of his excercise of free speech. Political Correctness sidelined a good man. I bought WP Cycles from him directly and engaged him in discussion on several occasions. I have not seen that title mentioned in a long time. It is worth the read.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:05 | 3217310 FeralSerf
Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:09 | 3217603 chubbar
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33 conspiracy theories that turned out to be true!


Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:47 | 3218644 Vendetta
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that's the problem with conspiracy theories ... damn it! /snark

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:44 | 3217245 mayhem_korner
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It’s hard to imagine that you’ll be worse off for shipping a few physical ounces of gold abroad, having some savings stashed away in a healthy foreign bank, or taking control of your retirement’ll be well ahead of the crowd.


“Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain.  And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”

(Parable of the Rich Fool, Luke 12)

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:05 | 3217342 zapdude
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Word.  They say you can't take it with you when you die, but the truth is you actually can 'lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven'.

Still, I think Simon tends to offer good advice and interesting reading from time to time (whilst peddling his wares).

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:19 | 3217386 lakecity55
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Yes, I can see him in his trench coat, lurking about an internet cafe in Istanbul sending out his new communique.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 18:46 | 3217954 Tijuana Donkey Show
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communique = picture of his junk

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:21 | 3217390 mayhem_korner
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Agreed.  But it's worthwhile (to me, at least) to keep a perspective on what is temporal.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:46 | 3217254 Darth Mul
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If I had to pick one thing for the Tylers and the ZHers to read, to really understand the fundamental tension within the US security apparatus, it'd be this:


[p.s. At number two would be the Mother Jones article "The Lie Factory" which ties into the above nicely]

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 19:06 | 3218039 Freddie
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What is the US military doing about other things? 

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:46 | 3217256 GubbermintWorker
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Really, must be nice to have the money to be cavorting around looking for a better place to live. I'm a poor scmuck that is pretty much stuck here, living pay check to pay check. Yeah, I have some PM's, have most of my debts paid off except a small mortgage. Have a few acres with fruit trees and a garden. Supplies, including guns, ammo, and food stuffs. Good source of water, wood stove, and a diesel generator.

Think I'll stick it out.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:05 | 3217336 No Euros please...
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Yeah, right on. Must be really nice to have some PM's, a small mortgage, a few acres, garden, guns, yadda, yadda. Hey I kid you not, most people I know don't even have that.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:07 | 3217347 mind_imminst
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I always wondered how some people seem to move effortlessly around the world (like Mr. Black). It helps to have money, connections, and knowledge of how to get around security/regulations (as former intelligence officers would possess). Sure, I could move out of the U.S. with my tiny bit of wealth, but it would be much more risky for me, than for someone like Mr. Black. Who knows, he might still have some blackmail material on some world leaders that helps him move so effortlessly around the world.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:02 | 3217570 johnQpublic
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it helps to be an international man of mystery also

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:56 | 3218684 Vendetta
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and quad jet with a funky paint job really helps on those tiring world searches for a peaceful place to settle on down free from govt interference ....

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:02 | 3217571 BigJim
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Mr. Black is a master of disguise, too. He ALWAYS turns his shirts inside out halfway through the flights so that the immigration officers don't realise he's the same guy. I mean, really! They just can't work out how he vanished mid-flight... and who's this new guy?

I heard Mr. Black even has a different name that he can use when travelling, a name different to Mr. Black. And not something easy to crack, like Mr. Kcalb, either, but a completely DIFFERENT name, using different letters and stuff, maybe with some numbers or punctuation marks, to completely throw government agents of the scent.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:41 | 3217730 FeralSerf
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It's Mr. Schwartz.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 19:37 | 3218148 Pure Evil
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There is no escape. They can find you no matter where you go. And, they can always pay someone off to off you. If you're seen as a threat to those that are paranoid, have the money and power, then the only reason you still exist is that they haven't made the time to extinguish your flame.

If you really want to disappear, head to NYC or any large city and become a street person.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 23:12 | 3218737 Imminent Crucible
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"They can find you no matter where you go"

Maybe so, but I'm not so sure about that. Last Spring I flew into Ontario, California. That flight was the last point where I could be officially ID'd. I took the Foothills train west to a Covina station, got off and asked where the nearest bus stop was. Rode the bus around, and changed buses until I got down to El Monte. Walked into a store that sold motor scooters, paid cash for a 250cc scooter and rode it down through San Diego to San Ysidro. There I changed $ for pesos and rode across the border into Tijuana. I didn't bother with the FMM visa or Banjercito, just took the toll road west and south, following the signs that said Rosarito/Ensenada. I went down through Ensenada, Maneadero, Santo Tomas and further. Eventually I took a road down to the beach and followed the coast on a dirt road. I stayed at hostels and cheap places, always paid cash. I was never asked for my driver's license, tourist visa, passport or any other form of ID. From what I've seen of Tijuana, Ensenada, La Paz and Los Cabos you could just live quietly and no one would ever know or care that you were there.

As far as TPTB were concerned, I might have just dropped off the edge of the world. I eventually crossed back over at Tecate. Finally, I had to ID myself by handing my passport to the CBP agent. He flipped it open, glanced at the photo page and handed it back. "You really gonna ride that thing home?"

See, if you're nobody, they don't know where you are, and they don't care where you are. You don't matter. That's the way I like it.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:08 | 3217355 Shizzmoney
Shizzmoney's picture gotta love these guys like Jim Rogers and George Soros who complain about America, while bragging about living in London and Singapore.

When SHTF, we'll find out who the REAL Americans are.  Hint; it won't be the rich assholes who helped throw this country under the bus.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:32 | 3217431 Dangertime
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Nope, it will be the rich @ssholes who were smart enough to stash away some gold and guns.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:56 | 3217288 I Ching
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"move a portion of their savings abroad to a stable banking jurisdiction"


Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:00 | 3217307 Dr. Richard Head
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May I suggest my home address?

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 22:59 | 3218695 Vendetta
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Tue, 02/05/2013 - 15:57 | 3217293 Son of Loki
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"




Someone on ZH posted this the other day. I thought it is good enough to repeat.


Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:39 | 3217457 shovelhead
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Votaire must have known that gal who told me I looked great in those stretch polyester disco bellbottoms.

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