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Twinkies Union Issues Ultimatum: We Get Our Jobs Back Or The Company Gets It Again
Following a brief infomercial for Gordian Group's apparent skills in bringing dough-makers and yeast-cooking perfection to the table - arguing that they are here to preserve jobs (for skilled workers who have been apparently working for below-market wages) - and maximizing value for the Bakery Union; Peter Kaufman stops the pretense of helping and goes straight for the threat. "We are here to work with credible bidders to get started right away with a great work-force; on the other hand, if bidders don't want to work with us (and re-hire Hostess employees), the union will ask the AFL-CIO to put any Hostess product on its 'boycott product' list." But "we're here to help," he reminds the somewhat stunned CNBC anchor. It seems beggars are once again choosers... as the entitled roll on.
Of course, far be it from us to point out the incredible irony that it was the labor union's unwillingness to negotiate that forced the company to run out of cash; and now that same union, that effectively blew up their employer, demands to have jobs restored as if nothing happened, and likely with the same (apparently higher comp) demands entitlements as before.
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Stuffing that edible, food-like filling into those twinkies is highly skilled labor, taking years of training, certification & demanding tests to master.
I must side with the union, here.
Twinkies, Ding-Dongs, Ho-Hos, etc.
We want MOAR!!!
You guys following the latest dot-com bubble? Dozens and Dozens of startups valued over a fucking billion...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/technology/growing-numbers-of-start-up...
http://www.businessinsider.com/startups-with-billion-dollar-valuations-2...
forgive me for linking to Business Insider and NY Times shitholes...
Circa-1999 absurdity 2.0
I say that with absolute confidence. The timing of the epic implosion that incinerates trillions in paper fiat "wealth" (along with that related to the other Bernank'd-blown-bubbles) is the only variable.
Wow unions distorting free markets?
Do they really think the people who care so little about anything demonstrated by stuffing their face with Twinkies are really going to give a shit, much less actually modify their behavior, based upon a boycott call from a dying union that is drowning itself with its own myopia and stupidity?
Have you seen the Chocolate Creme filled Twinkies?
They look sooooo delicious!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/twinkies-deal-hostess-bidder_n_...
Michelle Obama likes to sneak a few of those while Barry is out back puffing on a Marlboro.
And the funny thing she doesn't eat them....if you know what I mean. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge and all that jazz.
Move the whole thing to a cheaper state and call it a day. Fire them all.
blah.....blah....blah....the union will ask the AFL-CIO to put any Hostess product on its 'boycott product' list."
Considering that their products are a major contributor to obesity, i call that a step in the right direction...
Collusion is only illegal for non-union folks.
Just like the tax on "Cadillac" health plans only applies to non-union folks.
And bankruptcy law too, that's for suckers who didn't pay for the right pres.
The Union of Centrl Bankers you should worry about
http://benthetheif.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-federal-reserve-can-be-likened-to.html
Excuse me -- I got lost in the "cloud."
Can you please give me directions to the "YUM" discussion?
Market Top Forming 02-05-2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6gdG7d13tA
Union Fucktards...funny little critters, ain't they?
Wait, their headquarters are in Irving (Dallas) Texas....not an expensive place, nor do we see a lot of Teamsters. Im guessing the bakeries are in other states....not sure
Apparently, the wink wink is also an important facial expression when talking about yeast in their "product".....
Brings new meaning to "Yeast Infection."
And what's even funnier is that Barry isn't puffing on a cigarette, he's puffing on the Marlboro Man.
Blunts?
"Now that's funny, I don't care who you are."
I am someone that could give a shit what someone does in their own bed/home.
With that said, I bet that scumbag is a miserable fuck stuck in the Whitehouse without his bathhouse "buddies," as he is under extreme scrutiny which only leaves him Michelle to "scratch his itch." Eeeeewww!
I'll probably get "droned" for that because anyone that knows his sexual orientation is probably considered an "associated force." hujel
I will have to correct you here, he smokes what the boyz in da hood affectionately call "Double O Bro's" or what we crackers call KOOLS.
He ain't smokin' Winstones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLnPM0BjaQ
ROR! Make me laugh.
He's not smoking Newport's?
Christian Brothers brandy then instead of Courvoisier?
Let's see... WalMart's truck fleet (McClane) is non-union, so I'd say the AFL-CIO threat is "hollow."
Wal Mart's truck fleet is not McLane. McLane is a food service transportation company. Wal Mart trucking is done in house. Wal Mart Transportation LLC (DOT #63585 MC #311233) is one of the largest trucking companies in the world (6142 trucks,7366 drivers)Their corporate office is 311 North Walton Blvd
Bentonville, AR. McLane may haul food to Wal Mart but they are not Wal Mart's trucking company. Look at any Wal Mart semi truck that you see on the roadways and you will see that DOT/MC number on the door. McLane's trucking does business as Transco US DOT 1062707 MC # 441241 (4075 drivers, 2740 trucks). Corporate office 4747 McLane Pkwy Temple, TX.
Looks like he tapped out. Well... that's Fight Club!
Not really a big deal but I worked in trucking for many years as a driver and an owner. Wal Mart trucks are everywhere plus I have been to many different McLane terminals so I am familiar with the company.
Have you seen the Chocolate Creme filled Twinkies?
Most disgusting think I ever ate, and I used to hang out with Divine (kidding).
Seriously, you need to come to Philly and get some Tastykakes or Entenmann's.
The arrogance of these union fucktards would actually be amusing if they weren't so dangerous and politically connected.
...and "connected" in other ways as well.
The less of those garbage products on the shelves the better. Have an apple and an orange instead. Product of the USA.
Yes, you are right, but "Bath House" no longer needs them now that he is Premier for Life.
Unions cannot exist in the New Twink Order.
Dangerous? Arrogance? Was the financial collapse due to unions? Can you lay the blame for the Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan fiasco at their feet? I will never understand why people think it's ok for companies to organize and workers not. How else can you address the exploitive tendencies of corporations? Sure, curse the unions, lay down for the corporations. Poor, poor corporations, so abused, it's all so unfair.
The majority of unions are now in the public sector, think teachers, postal workers, and the like.
Unions promote less accountability, worse service, and their wage demands mean higher taxes plain and simple.
"The majority of unions are now in the public sector, think teachers, postal workers, and the like."
Well you'll love this...A is for Activist...lol.
http://eagnews.org/three-year-olds-chant-union-power-after-reading-new-childrens-book/
“This is an amazing book for toddlers,” wrote Oakland teachers union activist Mary Prophet.
Lovely.
Z is also for Zetas, another colorful Mexican entity.
I tell you what the issue with unions is. The "unions" have nothing to do with workers interests, they are self serving, brash assholes who despise workers and are motivated by greed and hatred of anyone who makes more money then them.
Do you think these fkers cared about the workers when they killed the company in the first place? Seriously? How many families were left without income? Yes the company was trying to negotiate income down but you know what - you dont like your job go get a new one. Dont make the decision for 2 guys next to you that if you are not happy they should loose their jobs too. Thats a fucking union cancer for you.
Union bashing is passe.
Compared to Wall Street and Washington, the Unions are pikers.
The Juggernaut said: "Wow unions distorting free markets?"
Please excuse me Sir, but what free markets do you speak of?
So preventing people from unionizing is free market? If people want to unionize let them. If companies want to negotiate and make promises to unions that they later can't fulfil knowing that unions may not concede to their new demands then so be it. Takes two to tango
Is this news about Twinkies causing the late day sell-off, or did the Bernank give the all-clear to start selling?
I guess I didn't get the memo.
"The only arithmetic he ever got was hearing the referee count up to ten. "
On The Waterfront
You need to pay closer attention to CNBC, it is NOT a sell off. It's just "investors" deciding to do some "profit taking." I mean, it's not like it's just a bunch of high frequency trading algorithms deciding to dump shit at the end of the day based upon some random bit of disinformation or unconfirmed rumor.
Point taken.
I had my brainwashing device (TV) turned off. But I have returned to the reservation, and I'm drinking orange koo-laid now.
Please accept my apologies.
cocksucking extortionist
That would be the company execs of Hostess...
who while running the company into the ground were rewarded. The people making the company decisions. You see Hostess isn't employee owned, so the failure rests with the people running it.
So fucking what? You job is not your right. You are not in north korea. You dont like your boss - go get another job. Oh, wait you cant can you coz you have fk all skills you are fat lazy and been sucking cock for union handout for the last 20 years.
Unions can go fuck themselves.
Do you have experience with employment in Korea?
I had plenty of experience with employment in another commie country and trust me you have seen one you have seen them all.
Unions are normally illegal in Communist countries.
BS, they are a part of communist party structure within the govt owned corporations, they obviously had nothing to do with workers uniting against management tho.. Forget about china, it aint commie i am talking about old soviet block.
It's true. The unions stayed,a guy like Lenin just changed the leadership of them frequently.
Its always a good idea to keep government interests and private interests separated.
You can wind up working for food stamps...and food stamps alone ;-)
No they are illegal in State Capitalist countries. Under communism everything is owned and operated by the government, how can you have a union when there is ZERO private business?
No, Corrupt owners, ponzi schemers, bankers, and the rest of the ruling class/vampire squids can go fuck themselves. Union workers? Please. Chump change.
Have yopu seen the start up by Holder and Obama that was designed for the American people called eatshitamerica.com? Probably worth more than a billion because its all about the power grab and what they plan to do to destroy the American way of life. Its a hit with the Mulsim world.
Number one, I think the people buying Hostess won't rehire these union workers back as a union or at the wages they had. Why bring back a problem that you will have to deal with. Also thanks for linking that story about the possibility of another dot com implosion. After readin it I also think it will happen. We have alot of these companies that have stealthed into the market under the big umbrella of Google and Facebook and a few others. And maybe the other blackswan in the mix is the implosion of the dot com 2.0 and then into the rest of the market.
Hostess already has the unions on the "Boycott Unions" list, so, fuck off..
Twinkies, Ding-Dongs, Ho-Hos, etc.
You talking about the pastries or the union officials?
Union officials or Congress
You forgot Cupcakes!
That's Menendez's underage Dominican boyfriend's name, no?
lol...untrue!
I did not accept "gifts" for an in-kind billion dollar port contract!
(The fact that I paid 20% of my declared liquid assets to "my eye doctor" for trips I did or did not take to Dominica is besides the point!)
Nothing to see here ;-)
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"SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic — It turns out that the lucrative port security contract pushed by Senator Robert Menendez would enrich more than just a major benefactor.
The contract could also benefit one of the senator’s former top aides, people connected to the deal said.
Mr. Menendez, Democrat of New Jersey, has pushed United States government officials to help enforce a contract that a company owned in part by one of his major donors, Dr. Salomon E. Melgen, has with the Dominican government, which has refused to honor it."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/nyregion/port-deal-pushed-by-menendez-could-also-benefit-ex-aide.html?_r=0
There are 535 of them in Washington DC.
Isn't anybodah gonna help that po' Twinkie?
"We got Twinkie da Kid. It would be a cryin' shame if he had a little accident, if you gets my drift. Your kids would be real sad, and we knows you don't want dat happ'nin."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrTSd2YUYzA
Wow! They musta put some good shit in them Twinkies back then. Must be why my sister and I had crayon art all over the walls and jumped off the neighbor's shed, regularly, into a pile of leaves. Yeehaw!
The first hit is free.
Makes me wonder what my mom was on that she let us live.
The bestest thing they can possibly do for the union members is to put that toxic shit on the "boycott product list" weather they are re-hired or not.
I can't imagine any union worker following through on a boycott of twinkies, or any foodstuff in the dessert section.
Your avatar and the subject reminded me of this for some reason.
http://www.switched.com/2009/07/14/economic-crisis-forcing-massive-robot-layoffs-in-japan/
In Japan robots have unions to cover the costs of repair and replacement.
It's not the pastries that are the problem. It is apparently the beer with lunch.
How long before the next bankruptcy?
Improperly stuffed twinkies might be dangerous. Think of the children man! This is a life safety issue. Only the highest skilled workers should ever deal with twinkie production.
They still sell Twinkies here in Canada. Obama ordered some, but returned them when they didn't look like Reggie Love.
Still sold as amyl nitrite substitutes in San Fran
And with engineer salaries as starting point, up to good CEO salaries for 10 year work in Twinky production.
Before they start making them again, maybe Congress should pass "Twinkie Control." Only approved Twinkies can be owned by the public. It is as centernie says -"Think of the children man." We certainly cannot have overloaded Twinkies. Mayor Bloomberg should be all over this issue.
Agreed.
No one should allowed to possess over six Twinkies. And something has to be done about these "strawman" bake sales happening all over the country. These things could wind up in the hands of anyone!
Bloom to the rescue with 15 heavily armed body guard's. Chanting, 1 2 3 4, twinkie control is what Bloomberg is here 4.
Stuffing the cream filling into a twinkie is done by a machine, protected as a trade secret (from watching the History Channel [ya learn things there!])
"We're here to help."
Infamous last words....
Union thugs punk in' the twink.
Forward Soviet!
Union thugs punk in' the twink.
Forward Soviet!
What a bunch of DING DONGS
The irony is...how do you expect to produce a product for consumption when the people who are the consumers cannot afford to purchase the product.
Twinkies or whatever.
It would make far more sense to create a factory which employed 2000 people who hand made succulent pasties with intricate designs because then 2000 people would be able to buy the product since they'd have an income.
Handmade items could employ Americans. If I ran a nation, I would suppress advancements in technology if the result ends up with unemployment so high, the very state of the country is at risk. Tax revenue generated would obviously be much welcomes if the US debt is an issue and not an attempt to overthrow the gov. Plus, productive workers who have pride and are a part of a community which gives the children a safe and happy place to live and grow should be the goal.
Profits have never been better. CEOs have monopolized, crushed competition, never been richer (along with investors/share holders) but at what cost? Why should a CEO make tens of millions of dollars a year because he has a bank in his back pocket when the Main Street bakery has to close the doors because everyone is buying the cheap pseudo-donut that is a fraction of the price made from inedible ingredients? I don't know what you people are thinking.
+1. The whole twinkies saga sums up the sad state of affairs this world has become. To chase the dollar and reduce labour, the ingredients list reads like a scientific formula. In order to make this product you must push buttons, pull levers, wait for buzzers and flashing lights. To suggest that the making of a twinkie requires highly skilled workers is farcical. In order to retain his job and keep his political aspirations on track, the union leader must convince the union members that they are being screwed (even though they quite obviously are not.) A complete conflict of interest. The end result is the exact opposite of what the unions were trying to achieve in the first place. An utter and complete epic fail. Now this douchebag can only make threats in a last ditch effort to reatin any shred of integrity. Why would anyone join a group in which you must pay someone to feed you propaganda bullshit in an attempt to negotiate you a payrise that most likely won't even get you to break-even.
I mean for fucks sake, the endless substitution of natural ingredients for cheaper chemical alternatives has only guarateed two outcomes. If you eat a twinkie you will either..
1) shit your pants immediately, or
2) not shit for a week
1) You shit your pants immediately, then
2) You don't shit for a week.
I couldn't concoct anything this toxic in my kitchen, so perhaps its best left to the experts.
/s
So the union will break legs even before there is a dispute? I'll park my investement dollars in a friendlier biz.
Oh, aren't we the economic recovery party pooper. You're obviously razzzizt.
Typical Union Democrat shit Oba scum.
NWO Free Shit Army Basic EBT Health Food Program
Perhaps Pete could wise the fuck up and simply hire lobyists to remove those brands from the FOOD STAMPS approved list, he could get some traction.
Nice..."hey you know the bullshit routine" wink at 1:17..sayin
its all moot......robots will have these jobs in 5 years.............
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/02/robot-wars-in-china-b...
Wait a minute.
Are you telling me that, up to now, low wage winos have been stuffing my twinkies with their bare hands.
That's disgusting!
Well, they weren't using their hands, per se.
Yep, they were filling those twinkies with yummy creamy goodnes. Same techniques they use on prize horse and bull studs.
That image is difficult to purge from the consciousness.
I think I'm gonna have horrible nightmares tonight.
"If I were a twinkie, what would you fill me with?"
- unknown
That sounds like a question asked on the old TV Show "Dating Game".
The answer would be, "with my sweet creme baby".
double post
When I graduated university back in 93 I got a job with the company that makes fryers for the food industry. They were currently working on an automated system for McDonalds that would load fried foods from the freezer, cook them in the fryer and then dump them where workers could salt them and serve them to customers. At the time it was not working as hoped and I've only seen one unit in a McDonalds since that time and that was back in the late 90's.
I can only assume that if any monkey with an 8th grade education can make fries then a robot should be able to be trained just as easily.
"I can only assume that if any monkey with an 8th grade education can make fries then a robot should be able to be trained just as easily."
lol...they could probably make the proper change for us too without having to look at the register at least five times in order to get it right.
Gubmint skools.
This is way beyond you two isn't it? Sure, dis the schools. Compare humans to monkeys. The robot/work issue coming in big and strong. We will need some type of solution for when production far exceeds the need for human work. Try proposing something, some type of future where we won't be divided into the uber-wealthy and the unimployed poor un-educated disposable cannon fodder.
I would propose pure research. This is Buckminster Fullers' solution, way back when. When production does not require work, offer to support research, without any need for economic gain. How DO spiders fuck anyways? Do they have orgasms? I am serious.
Sorry, after the robots take over all worker positions, the only jobs left will be in the porn industry.
I plan on being a porn star with the name, Long Schlong La Ding Dong.
No need for humans in porn, either:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw_fQZrB0o0
The clothes stay on, but might still be NSFW.
Spiders finger fuck, it's a 16 way EVERY time
"We will need some type of solution for when production far exceeds the need for human work."
When a robot can observe a plant in a field, diagnose its progress or lack thereof and remedy it on its own, if needed...I'll be worried.
And I'm not opposed to research per se but I'm opposed to researching unicorn farts. Just as I'm opposed to a bureacrat deciding garbage is art that needs to be publicly subsidized.
As far as spider reproduction, that research has been done, no need for more research or robots ;-)
twinkies=roadkill
lol.
Time for a fucking Obama union intervention.
This country is fucking full retard fucked. Fuck you union pricks. assholes
FUCKING WARNING: FUCKIN SHARK JUMPING EVENT ON THE FUCKIN RADAR. FUCK.
That guy's a douche bag
fuck you, you fucking fucker, fuck, fuck. nah, just kidding.
Yeah,Eric Place-Holder is going to get on that, calling a press conference tomorrow to publicly file a suit against the company and getting the FTC on board to coerce the demands of the AFL-CIO. Jimmy Hoffa wasn't kidding when he said there would be a civil war. Blood in the streets!
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AFAIK, at present, there is no company to coerce since none have stepped up and made an offer for the brands. This appears to simply be a Union Boss who is afraid that he may have to actually do something for his pay (which he is no doubt still collecting, and is probably still driving the Union Cadillac) other than run his mouth and keep his members unemployed and available to "work" Democrat rallies and to rough up Republicans and citizens.
And, no doubt, wearing a 1,000$ suit like that asshole Trumpka.
Actually, I think this is a job for Moochel.
if i took it over i wouldn't hire one of the dumb fcks who lost themselves a job, id also halve salaries so that they had to come crawling back like little marxist rats.
if bidders don't want to work with us (and re-hire Hostess employees), the union will ask the AFL-CIO to put any Hostess product on its 'boycott product' list."
BFD!
will any 12 year old customer care that the afl-cio has hostess on some list?
The boycott product section is right across from the deli counter.
A sign above saying "Boycotted by the Union" would cause me to buy them and I don't even like Twinkies, Heck I'd prob by 2 boxes
Who would want to buy a company to be bossed around
by unrealistic union? They just gave Twinkies he kiss of death.
Extortion? Bribes? Threats?
I want my Twinkies or I'm not working either.
THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!
DEY TURK UR JAM?!
MY BROKEN JAW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik
I know it's getting old, sorry.
Wow, what a surprise. A greedy, meddlesome Jew making threats........
you must be on the wrong site.....stormfront.org is more to your liking..............
Now you've done it.
Do you like to play make believe?
Every time someone calls out Obama, they're a racist, correct?
Every time someone calls out a Jew for being a complete and perfectly obnoxious scum bag, they're a white supremacist?
Then I'm guilty as charged...AND PROUD OF IT!
if you called out obama based solely on his race, not because he is a liberty stripping, central planning collectivist, then yes youre racist.................
and if you bring attention to the fact that some asshole is not an asshole merely because he is an asshole, but because he is a Jew, then yes you are blindly prejudice.......funny thing is you couldnt tell me what makes a person a "Jew"....im looking forward to your profile description...............
Wow, talk about logic FAIL!
For your comparison to be valid, you'd have to replace "Obama" with "a black," which would be a racist stereotype. Which you didn't do, likely because you'd see the implications.
Or you'd have to replace "a Jew" with "Peter Kaufman," which isn't a stereotype at all. But then it wouldn't say what you're intending, would it?
People are proud of lots of things. Ignorance, however, always seems to top the list.
wtf are you talking about.....it was a very simple statement...let me sum up.....calling out somebody with deficits by catagorizing them under a broad class of people makes him a fucking bigot.....no logic fail there NA..........
The hits just keep on comin'.
one move or the hostess employee gets it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_JOGmXpe5I
Fuck the AFL-CIO...they probably consume more Hostess crap than anybody else. Without Twinkies what are they going to shove in their faces ?
Barry's ho-ho I assume.
The union want to bring back that creamy filling of Barry's.
A giant helping of hope with a large side of change.
Well I have 9 boxes of Devil Dogs in the freezer so I can make it the next 2 years till someone buys the brand. At the end of the day it's only a recipe. These folks are not entitled to a job..company owners are not obligated to give them a job ESPECIALLY when their pricing themselves out of one with their demands.
There is so much competition for junk food coming from big brands or either small startup organic 10.00 a pack brownie companies that nobody will blink an eye. If they wanna run the show let them invest their own capital as a union and buy the brand..then well see how eager they are to dole out pension goodies and wage escalations misaligned with demand for the product unless they wanna jack prices.
Sad..when I was a kid (not too far past) I was shocked when Candybars went from 50 cents to 60. Now I cannot imagine that in 5 years milky ways went from 75 cents to 1.49. ..yeah..no inflation here Ben.
Have no fear! Mrs. Freshley's is here.
http://www.mrsfreshleys.com/mrs_Varieties/Category.cfm?CategoryID=42
Don't need no stinkin' Mrs. Freshley when u got Grandma CheapCheap
~~~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyXZMbc_sSs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp9Fhs2f8_Q
when I was a kid candy bars were a nickel, and gas was 22 cents a gallon.
when I was a kid, gas was 10 cents/gal and we used silver dimes to buy it with.
sodas were like .05 or .10