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Euphoria

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Presented with little comment aside from noting that the only time stocks have been this 'euphoric' was right before the collapse in 2000 and right before the collapse in 2008.

Equity Euphoric...

 

and Credit Risk Appetite rolling over...

 

as Global Risk Appetite heads for Euphoria...

 

Source: Citi and Credit Suisse

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Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:14 | 3221059 Ghordius
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Remember, children, you can't spell euphoria without the EU

nice, the great money wave will slosh to new shores and leave a few nekkid people again

perhaps we'll see this tsunami picking speed and go around the world in one week, and then in one day, and then...

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:30 | 3221129 Mark Carney
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noting that the only time stocks have been this 'euphoric' was right before the collapse in 2000 and right before the collapse in 2008

 

In other words this shit has got legs to run to the moon for my ass is hurting from my NFLX puts :/

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:46 | 3221186 CPL
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Bullish.  Dead serious, this isn't falling anytime soon.  Governments around the world (including Canada) will drain their pensions and dump them into the markets well before a 'correction'.  This is the world now.  Shorting anything is fatal financially.  Puts are fatal.  Looking sideways at a stock costs you money.  Only route open now is to hedge the gaint tsunami of cash that will be unleashed from the 401k's and RRSP schemes.

Again, who's going to say any different now?

Nobody that's who.  Nothing anyone can do about it but stack.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:49 | 3221202 Beam Me Up Scotty
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I agree.  Running the printing press at ramming speed changes things a bit.  If they create enough money to buy everything, how can anything go down?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 19:07 | 3221611 CPL
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That's nothing in comparison to all the money sitting on the sidelines that has been officially and artifically removed from the money supply.

  • Roth IRA's
  • RRSP's
  • 401ks
  • Dividends, ALL of them on ANYTHING.
  • Public Pensions, ALL of them.
  • Social security has been the 'padding' this whole time on the budget GAP which isn't remotely fucking fixed.

- That's what in total?  100 trillion - 300 trillion in USD?  Dumped on to the entire western hemisphere.  There won't be anywhere on the planet you will be able to hide from it.  

You know when it really is over?  

When they want all the money loaned to the banks back...0_0...yeah.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 19:58 | 3221720 trav777
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The Fed wasn't printing $45B a month back in 2008 or 2000.

Look, it's going to frost a lot of balls, but the denominator is changing and you need to recognize that.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 21:37 | 3221934 CPL
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It's 85 billion plus whatever operating capital they've been stealing from Social Security.  

I think we're nearly due for the T word on a month by month basis very soon now.  Should render the last of the hard metal currencies as worthless tin and zinc.  The political will is there to steal it, all it takes is a narrow to slim passing vote for some over the top named scheme, Operation Financial Viagra...Great Rebalancing Act of 2013.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 00:22 | 3222196 boogerbently
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Looks to me like they owe us another 30-60% parabolic run before the next collapse.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:52 | 3221215 SeanJKerrigan
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Now did anyone else think the Superbowl blackout was a perfect metaphor for our sick fucked up country?

I wrote this up the other day: Superbowl Bullshit

 

Once you get into this mindset of viewing the Superbowl as a microcosm of our society, all sorts of hidden deformities come to the surface. Lets start with the advertisements. After all, there would be no game without them. Take the Oreo ad where passionate cookie lovers beat on each other and burn down a library. Then there’s the GoDaddy ad which is not only hyper-sexualized chauvinism, but as a friend of mine pointed out, a distilled corporate form of sexuality, which is somehow even worse. 

But commercials are nothing new. You don’t really get to understand America’s perverse nature until you tap into our tendency for nationalism and self-aggrandizement. The spectacle really began with a choir of kids from Sandy Hook Elementary School singing America the Beautiful (first verse only because that’s all anyone knows!). Yes, lets watch the survivors of a recent tragedy sing an ode to a nation that doesn’t exist, meanwhile our government bombs the shit out of thousands of kids just like them in other nations. What a treasure.

Read the rest. Thanks for your patronage.

 

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:20 | 3221307 willwork4food
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I know what you mean about sexual depravity overtaking America. Hell, even I would kiss him for a few million.

Call me a whore blogger.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:55 | 3221219 TruthInSunshine
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Jamie Dimon's league of extraodinary parasites and their ilk can't make any real dolla' dolla' bills y'all without volatility and periodic big dumps.

In very polite, subtle language, especially when testifying before brain dead Senators, this is referred to as "financial crises happen regularly every several years as it's the nature of markets."

Aside from that, even Joe Q. Sheeple sitting in front of his Mad Money Trading Terminal gets leery when regularly spotting P/E ratios in the 6,000 range.

http://ycharts.com/companies/CRM/pe_ratio

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:42 | 3221537 RebelDevil
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and what of the bond bubble?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:11 | 3221750 SAT 800
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Short the S&P500 two contracts; $100 a point; I retired doing this kind of shit when I was 34 and I'm 70 now. Want to bet? how much do you want to bet. To call your analysis simplistic would be an insult to simpletons.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:14 | 3221060 Fips_OnTheSpot
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what goes up, .....

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:18 | 3221083 Dr. Richard Head
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...must go upper.  - Ben Bernanke

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:47 | 3221130 TruthInSunshine
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A Wall Street Nursery Rhyme

by: TruthInSunShine

Once bitten-- twice shy.

Sheep twice bitten-- why again did you try?

Sheep thrice bitten-- hey dumbass, just give ME your money, let ME kick you in the balls & save you some time.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:13 | 3221285 eclectic syncretist
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Bennie and the Inkjets will be jammin in the printing press basement of the Federal Reserve tonight!

Cue up the Market Commentary muzak Timmah!!.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwaD7l-G9fU

 

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 19:54 | 3221711 ZeroChance
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Except when it doesn't.

Keep your heads on, folks, don't lose perspective.  Nobody has perfect control and things are on a razor's edge.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:23 | 3221103 kliguy38
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Gotta get another hit offa dat Fed bong....best chit goin'

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:16 | 3221071 katwoman
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For as much as I'd love to agree with you, it still has moar to go sadly...Close but no cigar, YET

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:31 | 3221135 GolfHatesMe
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we never run out of hipocracy

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:46 | 3221184 otto skorzeny
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is that a combination of hypocrisy and democracy? I like it

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:23 | 3221074 Randall Cabot
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Yeah, but they didn't have QE/POMO back then.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:31 | 3221127 walküre
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Correct but they didn't have to be concerned about the fact that digital wealth on balance sheet is worth shit when a loaf of bread costs a million bucks.

The real flight to safety is coming and it will crash everything in its wake.

Japan, China, USA, EU CANNOT PRINT THEIR PROBLEMS AWAY.

Perception of those holding wealth is no different in 2013 than it was in 1923, then Weimar Germany's ill fated attempt to print itself out of debt killed all trading and created a demand for anything tangible which promised to preserve wealth.

Governments will not roll over and default, they will dilute currency and degrade the faith in currency over time. How quick it will unravel is anyone's guess in the face of massive propaganda efforts to try and convince the people otherwise.

Cracks will appear and protests will erupt. How the media fails to report on those events is key. Evenutally though people as a population will figure things out for themselves and they will turn off the propaganda and start preparing for the WORST. That's long after the wealthy elite has started to prepare and stack.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:05 | 3221258 Beam Me Up Scotty
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"Correct but they didn't have to be concerned about the fact that digital wealth on balance sheet is worth shit when a loaf of bread costs a million bucks."

I used to think there would be one more crash before hyperinflation took off.  Not so sure anymore.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:30 | 3221502 walküre
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When a loaf of bread costs a million bucks and the S&P is at 1500 points, it has inadvertently crashed. That's how the scales will tip and even with NFLX $10,000 share. You really want to own NFLX as a store of value during hyper inflation?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:17 | 3221461 Panafrican Funk...
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It's really to me about whether they can keep mainlining the drug addicts with television/gadgets, junk food, and subsidized housing.  As LoP is correct in stating (and I'm actually happy he often repeats it, because it's the real key), a break in the supply lines is the only thing that's going to bring this shit down.  Analogies to war and the role supplies play in the tactical/strategic picture are worth exploring here.  

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:50 | 3221565 CPL
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Cracks have appeared everywhere.  Riots over the past four years and gathering in intensity. so because it's not on your doorstep yet doesn't mean it won't be soon.  Means that food is still too cheap.  

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:17 | 3221080 localsavage
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When everyone I know tells me that they are slow at best and I hear the opposite from the media/government, I know that it is about to end badly.  Timing it is the real problem

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:18 | 3221082 astoriajoe
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how do they define Euphoria?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:19 | 3221084 kengland
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Same old ZH drivel. Can you provide just a little bit more context between the three periods? I'm thinking the global monetary policy has changed a bit, but I'm not sure. I suppose if you tell me it's coming down, it's coming down. After all, it's been coming down since 666. Deafening.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:28 | 3221119 economics9698
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Go long brother.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:32 | 3221131 kengland
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Stay out brother. That's the way that's handled. Why even fulking talk markets? It's gone. It's a monetary game facilititated by global banks everywhere. By the way econ, I only paroose ZH now to read yours and travs posts. I'm with you. Need more folks like you.

I will aslo add that posting anything any more is very risky. To think this and other blogs are not monitored is insane.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:47 | 3221190 otto skorzeny
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I'd say to invest in ammo- but it's impossible to find.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:02 | 3221419 Osmium
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Not impossible, but I don't feel like paying a buck a round for 5.56

http://www.bulkammo.com/rifle/bulk-5.56x45-ammo

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:34 | 3221357 e-recep
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they can monitor this. ***grabs crotch***

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:20 | 3221090 yogibear
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Just close your eyes and believe in skittle pooping unicorns and we can keep the euphoria going. Just believe. 

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:20 | 3221091 bonzo112358
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So this means I should buy then right?

From the aptly named The Day the Earth Stood Stupid

Fry: What are we going to do?
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Duh, I know, let's play the lottery.
Amy Wong: No, let's buy internet stock.
Dr. Zoidberg: On margin. Zoidbee wants to buy on margin.
Hermes Conrad: [holding a board in front of his face] Look at me. I'm invisible.
Fry: Wait a minute, I know what's going on here. You've all become idiots.
Bender: Hey, let's all join the Reform party.
Everyone: Yeah.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:21 | 3221099 Dollar Bill Hiccup
Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:23 | 3221105 smart girl
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I agree with you and I love you Tylers. Happy Valentine's Month!

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:23 | 3221107 ekm
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This is absolutely NOT euphoria.

 

This is primary dealers owning most of S&P and having nobody to sell the shit to, hence forced to keep buying all crums that the rest are selling.

 

Any S&P point above 1000, is basically primary dealers selling the same batch of stocks to each other over and over and over in dark pools.

 

When I say S&P at 400 INEVITABLE, I mean it.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:41 | 3221172 hannah
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ekm - why would the market be 'worth' $400 when TSHTF...? i say zero............

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:45 | 3221183 ekm
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The real value I see is 700 pts for S&P. At 1000 all retail it priced out. Anything above 1000 is primary dealers selling the same shit to each other.

 

By historical definition, anything that overshoots, will undershoot.

I'd say the shit hitting the fan, is no good for this case. The shit will hit a nuclear reactor in this case.

Whatever the value is, I will put all my money at 400 S&P.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:35 | 3221524 walküre
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By putting your money at S&P 400 you mean "shorting"?

What makes you think you get to collect once you pass GO?

S&P at 4,000 or 400 is bullshit to own anything in the market. Only thing you want to have then is what you can hold and trade to eat and keep your life. Try and buy protection with paper certs or anything in electronic accounts. The muscle you need to surround yourself with won't stick around for that shit.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:27 | 3221791 hannah
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let him try and cash out his brokerage fund without a clearing service...ha! no one will be getting anything.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 23:13 | 3222116 ekm
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Re-phrasing

At 400 I will put my money in.

Now I'm cash.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:43 | 3221176 ebworthen
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S&P 666 was gratifyingly smybolic, but 400 would be better, and 300 even betterer (Molon Labe!).

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:50 | 3221199 ekm
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The retarded keep saying that SP 1400 is great.

The morons do not understand that Brokers live off trading fees. At 400 a lot of trading, at 1500 no trading.

 

For Wall Street to survive, S&P at 400 is inevitable. They need fees.

Retail will be lured at 400 since they will consider it as "savings for retirement". At 1500 they can't afford it.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:12 | 3221282 Beam Me Up Scotty
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No one will have any money to trade at S&P400.  Who is going to have any money?  There's not much dry powder laying around.  The SNAP card people are out, the middle class is definitely out.  And the people that have any perceived "wealth" will lose most of it when the S&P goes from 1500 to 400.  They will be out too.  Zimbabwe had the best performing market, they can create that illusion here too.  Im not advocating for that, I'm just wondering why you think it will crash.  They will buy it all until they own everything.

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