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Euphoria

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Presented with little comment aside from noting that the only time stocks have been this 'euphoric' was right before the collapse in 2000 and right before the collapse in 2008.

Equity Euphoric...

 

and Credit Risk Appetite rolling over...

 

as Global Risk Appetite heads for Euphoria...

 

Source: Citi and Credit Suisse

 


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Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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Remember, children, you can't spell euphoria without the EU

nice, the great money wave will slosh to new shores and leave a few nekkid people again

perhaps we'll see this tsunami picking speed and go around the world in one week, and then in one day, and then...

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Mark Carney
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noting that the only time stocks have been this 'euphoric' was right before the collapse in 2000 and right before the collapse in 2008

 

In other words this shit has got legs to run to the moon for my ass is hurting from my NFLX puts :/

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:46 | Link to Comment CPL
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Bullish.  Dead serious, this isn't falling anytime soon.  Governments around the world (including Canada) will drain their pensions and dump them into the markets well before a 'correction'.  This is the world now.  Shorting anything is fatal financially.  Puts are fatal.  Looking sideways at a stock costs you money.  Only route open now is to hedge the gaint tsunami of cash that will be unleashed from the 401k's and RRSP schemes.

Again, who's going to say any different now?

Nobody that's who.  Nothing anyone can do about it but stack.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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I agree.  Running the printing press at ramming speed changes things a bit.  If they create enough money to buy everything, how can anything go down?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 19:07 | Link to Comment CPL
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That's nothing in comparison to all the money sitting on the sidelines that has been officially and artifically removed from the money supply.

  • Roth IRA's
  • RRSP's
  • 401ks
  • Dividends, ALL of them on ANYTHING.
  • Public Pensions, ALL of them.
  • Social security has been the 'padding' this whole time on the budget GAP which isn't remotely fucking fixed.

- That's what in total?  100 trillion - 300 trillion in USD?  Dumped on to the entire western hemisphere.  There won't be anywhere on the planet you will be able to hide from it.  

You know when it really is over?  

When they want all the money loaned to the banks back...0_0...yeah.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 19:58 | Link to Comment trav777
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The Fed wasn't printing $45B a month back in 2008 or 2000.

Look, it's going to frost a lot of balls, but the denominator is changing and you need to recognize that.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 21:37 | Link to Comment CPL
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It's 85 billion plus whatever operating capital they've been stealing from Social Security.  

I think we're nearly due for the T word on a month by month basis very soon now.  Should render the last of the hard metal currencies as worthless tin and zinc.  The political will is there to steal it, all it takes is a narrow to slim passing vote for some over the top named scheme, Operation Financial Viagra...Great Rebalancing Act of 2013.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 00:22 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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Looks to me like they owe us another 30-60% parabolic run before the next collapse.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:52 | Link to Comment SeanJKerrigan
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Now did anyone else think the Superbowl blackout was a perfect metaphor for our sick fucked up country?

I wrote this up the other day: Superbowl Bullshit

 

Once you get into this mindset of viewing the Superbowl as a microcosm of our society, all sorts of hidden deformities come to the surface. Lets start with the advertisements. After all, there would be no game without them. Take the Oreo ad where passionate cookie lovers beat on each other and burn down a library. Then there’s the GoDaddy ad which is not only hyper-sexualized chauvinism, but as a friend of mine pointed out, a distilled corporate form of sexuality, which is somehow even worse. 

But commercials are nothing new. You don’t really get to understand America’s perverse nature until you tap into our tendency for nationalism and self-aggrandizement. The spectacle really began with a choir of kids from Sandy Hook Elementary School singing America the Beautiful (first verse only because that’s all anyone knows!). Yes, lets watch the survivors of a recent tragedy sing an ode to a nation that doesn’t exist, meanwhile our government bombs the shit out of thousands of kids just like them in other nations. What a treasure.

Read the rest. Thanks for your patronage.

 

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:20 | Link to Comment willwork4food
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I know what you mean about sexual depravity overtaking America. Hell, even I would kiss him for a few million.

Call me a whore blogger.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:55 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Jamie Dimon's league of extraodinary parasites and their ilk can't make any real dolla' dolla' bills y'all without volatility and periodic big dumps.

In very polite, subtle language, especially when testifying before brain dead Senators, this is referred to as "financial crises happen regularly every several years as it's the nature of markets."

Aside from that, even Joe Q. Sheeple sitting in front of his Mad Money Trading Terminal gets leery when regularly spotting P/E ratios in the 6,000 range.

http://ycharts.com/companies/CRM/pe_ratio

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:42 | Link to Comment RebelDevil
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and what of the bond bubble?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Short the S&P500 two contracts; $100 a point; I retired doing this kind of shit when I was 34 and I'm 70 now. Want to bet? how much do you want to bet. To call your analysis simplistic would be an insult to simpletons.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Fips_OnTheSpot
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what goes up, .....

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:18 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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...must go upper.  - Ben Bernanke

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:47 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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A Wall Street Nursery Rhyme

by: TruthInSunShine

Once bitten-- twice shy.

Sheep twice bitten-- why again did you try?

Sheep thrice bitten-- hey dumbass, just give ME your money, let ME kick you in the balls & save you some time.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:13 | Link to Comment eclectic syncretist
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Bennie and the Inkjets will be jammin in the printing press basement of the Federal Reserve tonight!

Cue up the Market Commentary muzak Timmah!!.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwaD7l-G9fU

 

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 19:54 | Link to Comment ZeroChance
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Except when it doesn't.

Keep your heads on, folks, don't lose perspective.  Nobody has perfect control and things are on a razor's edge.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment kliguy38
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Gotta get another hit offa dat Fed bong....best chit goin'

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment katwoman
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For as much as I'd love to agree with you, it still has moar to go sadly...Close but no cigar, YET

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:31 | Link to Comment GolfHatesMe
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we never run out of hipocracy

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:46 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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is that a combination of hypocrisy and democracy? I like it

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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Yeah, but they didn't have QE/POMO back then.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:31 | Link to Comment walküre
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Correct but they didn't have to be concerned about the fact that digital wealth on balance sheet is worth shit when a loaf of bread costs a million bucks.

The real flight to safety is coming and it will crash everything in its wake.

Japan, China, USA, EU CANNOT PRINT THEIR PROBLEMS AWAY.

Perception of those holding wealth is no different in 2013 than it was in 1923, then Weimar Germany's ill fated attempt to print itself out of debt killed all trading and created a demand for anything tangible which promised to preserve wealth.

Governments will not roll over and default, they will dilute currency and degrade the faith in currency over time. How quick it will unravel is anyone's guess in the face of massive propaganda efforts to try and convince the people otherwise.

Cracks will appear and protests will erupt. How the media fails to report on those events is key. Evenutally though people as a population will figure things out for themselves and they will turn off the propaganda and start preparing for the WORST. That's long after the wealthy elite has started to prepare and stack.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:05 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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"Correct but they didn't have to be concerned about the fact that digital wealth on balance sheet is worth shit when a loaf of bread costs a million bucks."

I used to think there would be one more crash before hyperinflation took off.  Not so sure anymore.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:30 | Link to Comment walküre
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When a loaf of bread costs a million bucks and the S&P is at 1500 points, it has inadvertently crashed. That's how the scales will tip and even with NFLX $10,000 share. You really want to own NFLX as a store of value during hyper inflation?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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It's really to me about whether they can keep mainlining the drug addicts with television/gadgets, junk food, and subsidized housing.  As LoP is correct in stating (and I'm actually happy he often repeats it, because it's the real key), a break in the supply lines is the only thing that's going to bring this shit down.  Analogies to war and the role supplies play in the tactical/strategic picture are worth exploring here.  

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment CPL
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Cracks have appeared everywhere.  Riots over the past four years and gathering in intensity. so because it's not on your doorstep yet doesn't mean it won't be soon.  Means that food is still too cheap.  

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:17 | Link to Comment localsavage
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When everyone I know tells me that they are slow at best and I hear the opposite from the media/government, I know that it is about to end badly.  Timing it is the real problem

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:18 | Link to Comment astoriajoe
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how do they define Euphoria?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:19 | Link to Comment kengland
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Same old ZH drivel. Can you provide just a little bit more context between the three periods? I'm thinking the global monetary policy has changed a bit, but I'm not sure. I suppose if you tell me it's coming down, it's coming down. After all, it's been coming down since 666. Deafening.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:28 | Link to Comment economics9698
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Go long brother.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:32 | Link to Comment kengland
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Stay out brother. That's the way that's handled. Why even fulking talk markets? It's gone. It's a monetary game facilititated by global banks everywhere. By the way econ, I only paroose ZH now to read yours and travs posts. I'm with you. Need more folks like you.

I will aslo add that posting anything any more is very risky. To think this and other blogs are not monitored is insane.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:47 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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I'd say to invest in ammo- but it's impossible to find.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:02 | Link to Comment Osmium
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Not impossible, but I don't feel like paying a buck a round for 5.56

http://www.bulkammo.com/rifle/bulk-5.56x45-ammo

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:34 | Link to Comment e-recep
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they can monitor this. ***grabs crotch***

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:20 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Just close your eyes and believe in skittle pooping unicorns and we can keep the euphoria going. Just believe. 

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:20 | Link to Comment bonzo112358
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So this means I should buy then right?

From the aptly named The Day the Earth Stood Stupid

Fry: What are we going to do?
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Duh, I know, let's play the lottery.
Amy Wong: No, let's buy internet stock.
Dr. Zoidberg: On margin. Zoidbee wants to buy on margin.
Hermes Conrad: [holding a board in front of his face] Look at me. I'm invisible.
Fry: Wait a minute, I know what's going on here. You've all become idiots.
Bender: Hey, let's all join the Reform party.
Everyone: Yeah.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:21 | Link to Comment Dollar Bill Hiccup
Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment smart girl
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I agree with you and I love you Tylers. Happy Valentine's Month!

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment ekm
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This is absolutely NOT euphoria.

 

This is primary dealers owning most of S&P and having nobody to sell the shit to, hence forced to keep buying all crums that the rest are selling.

 

Any S&P point above 1000, is basically primary dealers selling the same batch of stocks to each other over and over and over in dark pools.

 

When I say S&P at 400 INEVITABLE, I mean it.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:41 | Link to Comment hannah
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ekm - why would the market be 'worth' $400 when TSHTF...? i say zero............

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment ekm
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The real value I see is 700 pts for S&P. At 1000 all retail it priced out. Anything above 1000 is primary dealers selling the same shit to each other.

 

By historical definition, anything that overshoots, will undershoot.

I'd say the shit hitting the fan, is no good for this case. The shit will hit a nuclear reactor in this case.

Whatever the value is, I will put all my money at 400 S&P.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:35 | Link to Comment walküre
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By putting your money at S&P 400 you mean "shorting"?

What makes you think you get to collect once you pass GO?

S&P at 4,000 or 400 is bullshit to own anything in the market. Only thing you want to have then is what you can hold and trade to eat and keep your life. Try and buy protection with paper certs or anything in electronic accounts. The muscle you need to surround yourself with won't stick around for that shit.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:27 | Link to Comment hannah
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let him try and cash out his brokerage fund without a clearing service...ha! no one will be getting anything.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 23:13 | Link to Comment ekm
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Re-phrasing

At 400 I will put my money in.

Now I'm cash.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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S&P 666 was gratifyingly smybolic, but 400 would be better, and 300 even betterer (Molon Labe!).

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:50 | Link to Comment ekm
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The retarded keep saying that SP 1400 is great.

The morons do not understand that Brokers live off trading fees. At 400 a lot of trading, at 1500 no trading.

 

For Wall Street to survive, S&P at 400 is inevitable. They need fees.

Retail will be lured at 400 since they will consider it as "savings for retirement". At 1500 they can't afford it.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:12 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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No one will have any money to trade at S&P400.  Who is going to have any money?  There's not much dry powder laying around.  The SNAP card people are out, the middle class is definitely out.  And the people that have any perceived "wealth" will lose most of it when the S&P goes from 1500 to 400.  They will be out too.  Zimbabwe had the best performing market, they can create that illusion here too.  Im not advocating for that, I'm just wondering why you think it will crash.  They will buy it all until they own everything.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:17 | Link to Comment ekm
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Retail is cash. They've been forced to cash out, it's been many years already.

 

It's either S&P at 400, or Wall Street disappears, except for primary dealers.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:21 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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"It's either S&P at 400, or Wall Street disappears, except for primary dealers."

And there, my friend, is where you have the answer for why S&P at 400 is very unlikely.  Bleeding absolutely everyone else dry is the alpha and omega of the TBTF.  

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:39 | Link to Comment ekm
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It would mean IMMENSE UNEMPLOYEMENT in the financial sector. Right now it's about 8% of the whole economy.

I disagree. One or two primary dealers are going down.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:54 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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So I'm kicking myself for not buying Las Vegas Sands when it was at $1.

I had a lot of dry powder, but didn't want to play in the Wall Street casino.

Besides, I'd just have to pay a bunch of obnoxious taxes on the capital gains.

But still, I would have enjoyed going to one of the properties and partying on the proceeds.

Oh well, hindsight is 20/20.  Been buying Gold and Silver since then so not all a loss, and I may just cash some out to have a bender.

Girls?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 23:12 | Link to Comment ekm
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You should know that the poorest are the ones buying lottery tickets.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:24 | Link to Comment Laser Shark
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It's different this time.

The markets just need to snort some more fiscal coke and shoot some more monetary black tar heroin.

They can't die.  They are invincible.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:28 | Link to Comment Laser Shark
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BTW, they can quit whenever they want to.  They just don't want to right now.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:26 | Link to Comment rubearish10
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How come I don't see it?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:32 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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The market can go up forever, all you have do do is change the definition of "market." They already did that.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:34 | Link to Comment kengland
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+1

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:18 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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It's all about psychology. After the eupohria comes the last buyer; after the last buyer comes the bear market. over and over and over again. Nobody has "bought" or runs the market; when the big funds start selling, you'll know about it.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:19 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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facetious verbiage; it's still a market.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:25 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Why should you be able to see it? you're not a trader you don't read charts; you don't know anything about market history or psychology; why should you see anything?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:37 | Link to Comment AccreditedEYE
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Jim Cramer said the market can keep going up and to buy it.... gotta be true. lol

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Conman
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Look at that algo pattern up after the drop earlier. holy crap they make no pretense about making the "market"  look organic anymore.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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short squeeze til you bleed from every orifice. also-saw 2000 layoffs in chicago area at Jewel Foods and Walgreens HQ(well paid mid-managers)-Green Shootz-bitchez

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:40 | Link to Comment walküre
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Big retail giants like Sears, Office Max, Best Buy, JC Penney etc are closing anywhere from 15% to 25% of their stores nationwide and will have massive layoffs. That's a HUGE correction coming when 70% of the national economy happens to be consumption and much of it is retail.

Consumption has gone down a dark rabbit hole, now comes the REAL contraction.

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/breaking_ground/2013/02/best-buy-s...

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 05:17 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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Then why are the DC area malls more packed now than they were around Christmas? Something doesn't add up here. There is a lot of money coming from somewhere.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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somewhere?  In these here parts, we call them Taxpayers.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:41 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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I'd bet CALPERS is buying euphorically.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:41 | Link to Comment NEOSERF
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I dunno, but I think if I worked at say the CBO or NAR i would say that there is another 20% in that thar euphoria chart before things might go down...Dow 15K, giddeeeupp doggies...

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment The worst trader
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I smoked some Euphoria last night............... Didn't help.

 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 12:03 | Link to Comment e-recep
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holy moly, whos that in the avatar?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:47 | Link to Comment dr.charlemagne
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Ummm, anyone watching PLATINUM? whats up with that?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 16:49 | Link to Comment WTF_247
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 The algos are all in massive buy mode.  Try shorting something and see how you do.  Most days are spent with 80%+ of the time buying SP futures.  Even today - they had a brief correction for about 45 min, then right back in there with nothing but buying for the next 3 hours.

Sure - there are some stocks that do correct - but overall they are doing the same correlated all sector ramp as they have for the last 30+ trading days.

Until the tide turns its very difficult to try to position for the correction - it could go 10%+ higher first.  Once you see the market completely disconnected from any and all economic factors (bad news up, good news up) that tells you to NOT bet against it.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:04 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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Those charts look just like the imprint bernanke's fucking shit covered prick left on the asses of middle class taxpayers.

 

Fuck you Bernanke you fucking middle class financial raping fucking asshole

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:43 | Link to Comment Darksky
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They come from miles to listen to the LongSoupLine man.

You are too fucking funny. Thanks for the gut buster

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:13 | Link to Comment stateside
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A big thank you to Ben and the western central banks this week.  Thanks to Ben, I was able to exercise some company stock options at multi-year highs and thanks to the western central banks I was able to use it to buy some physical gold at artificially depressed prices.  Have to run out now and get the "thank you" cards for them.

stateside

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:48 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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Except you told everyone on the Internets about it, and now they are going to be looking for YOU.  You better go have a boating accident, FAST!!

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:26 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Despite the same numeric ~peak~, the S&P in real terms is much lower than 2007 and very very much lower level than 2000.

Also the 2007 was pumped through credit bubble, right now the market participants (banks) are using new printed money to pump the stock, so that does not pose a systemic risk.

The bubble of credit is Treasuries, as long as they fall orderly we are good. Ok teh S&P is not cheap, but aside from the Treasuries, there is not the private market credit bubble pricking, student loans?

In other words, in large money pumping situation, as long as we do not enter another credit boom, we just will have unlevered cash sitting idle being spent which is inflationary without raising total debt. We will have a shitty currency, we will have bonanza for short duration trades, and a nice 7-10% in 5 to 10 years and voila!

 

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:27 | Link to Comment natronic
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I think the runup will be higher than the last time and we will see new "highs" due to QE Infinity and the coming inflation that even the hoover dam won't be able to hold back.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:44 | Link to Comment CDNX fan
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NEVER EVER underestimate the replacement power of equities within an inflationary spiral...this is not Euphoria....it is fear. Big money is exiting cash and cash equivalents in favour of stocks in order to hedge against a crash in the USD

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Cortez
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Remember that even the space shuttle Challenger continued higher after it exploded... until it didn't.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:47 | Link to Comment CDNX fan
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The Wall Street banks are impaired by the collateral behind the toxic debt and the FED has been buying that crud from the NY banks...the FED needs to reflate the USD - denominated collateral by cratering the currency in order to have the collateral become whole. In that type of environment, you want to lose cash and cash equiv's like really fast - hence we have rising stocks.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:09 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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funny how aapl reached its all time high not so long ago... and now its been nearly [~] halved-- by comparison the S&P just broke 15k+ and the tale of the tape is fading fast?-- what i see is a sink hole that gonna need a lot of back filling... 

jmo 

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Monedas
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The hysterical reproductive furor of an engorged uterus .... or .... euphoria .... that works, too !

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:59 | Link to Comment alfbell
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No one knows what is really going to happen here. Not even the interventionists and manipulators. This is new territory. Prediction is almost impossible. Even being a contrarian (whichever way the herd is running, go the opposite way) isn't a solid plan.

Gonna just sit back and watch the movie.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 04:22 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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We could have a boom that spikes oil and then crashes the system. In any case, something changed in the last month. DC area malls are now far more crowded than they were around Christmas!

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 19:45 | Link to Comment chump666
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Either way, the money printers days are numbered.  They cannot inflate equities forever without a collapse in bonds, by natural design the bond market will force the play.  The burden of this capo/commie crony based market experiment will probably kill them or make them insane, Bernanke looks over halfway there.

With no real recovery at hand, a market crash will be a nail in the coffin for the US economy and world. 

So they will try, try very hard to keep this bid...but it will be a hopeless effort.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 20:15 | Link to Comment SAT 800
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Absolutely correct Tyler; Euphoria is what precedes crashes; it's all psychology and this is the psychology of a bubble. I'm short and when I get stopped out I'll let you know.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 17:58 | Link to Comment Tombstone
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According to the approximate 6-8 year cycle, stocks fell in 1974, 1980, 1987, 1994, 2000, 2008...so the next drop will be in 2014-2016.  This will give Benny time to buy the moon, sucker in Ma and Pa investor and sink the whole ship in time to re-elect the stumblebum of choice (or his clone) to another term because we have to.  WHY? To save the country from the evils of capitalism and prosperity, of course.

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