Guest Post: When Lindsay Graham And Barrack Obama Agree... Run The Other Way Fast

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The easiest way for a patriotic, civil liberties defending U.S. citizen to know whether to support or oppose an issue is when two of the most authoritative, narcissistic politicians from the two controlled political parties in America are in strong agreement. In this case, I am referring to Lindsay Graham and Barack Obama’s recent love fest on drone warfare.  From Politico:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) will offer a resolution next week commending President Barack Obama’s use of drones and the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki.


“Every member of Congress needs to get on board,” Graham said. “It’s not fair to the president to let him, leave him out there alone quite frankly. He’s getting hit from libertarians and the left.

“Everyone needs to get on board...” in commending the death of someone from 30,000 feet?  What kind of Nazi talk is this?  So this is what America has become.  Politicians with 10% approval ratings patting themselves on the back for killing other human beings without ever getting their hands dirty.  USA! USA!

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msmith9962's picture

Dont shoot till you see the whites of their eyes on your crystal clear samsung led screen.

ihedgemyhedges's picture

Little Linsey Graham cracker can kiss my arse..........he's useless if you're trying to move liberty forward instead of the current trajectory of backward...........

sunaJ's picture

This is the kind of issue and rah-rah-rah-ing that can bring our congress together!  No, not to tackle corporate fraud, taxes or spending, silly - united behind drone murder without judicial review!   Honestly, if these asshats got their way, every little thing that scared them would be outlawed. 

Cowards and corporate hacks.


nmewn's picture

Fucking assholes, its very easy for the elites, who have 24/7/365 protection, to think no harm will ever befall them, from their actions or decisions.

I'm sure a bunch of cops out in LA felt the same way until a "bot in blue" went rogue.

"Whatever pre-planned responses you have established for a scenario like me, shelve it. Whatever contingency plan you have, shelve it. Whatever tertiary plan you’ve created, shelve it. I am a walking exigent circumstance with no OFF or reset button. JRIC, DOJ, LASD, FBI and other local LE can’t assist and should not involve themselves in a matter that does not concern them. For all other agencies, do not involve yourself in this capture or recovery of me. Look at the big picture of the situation. They (LAPD) created the situation."

nmewn's picture

Pretty wild, here's some more...

"During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, Abraham Schefres, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for Abraham Schefres when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How fucking dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. Abraham Schefres about the incident when Ofcr. Burdios began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.
The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving Schefres was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While on a assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers Hermilio Buridios IV and Marlon Magana (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard Magana refer to another individual as a nigger. I wasn't sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer Magana call an indivdual a nigger again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told Magana not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, "I'll say it when I want". Officer Burdios, a friend of his, also stated that he would say nigger when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around Burdios' neck and squeezed. I stated to Burdios, "Don't fucking say that". At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull. The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately." Sooo, ummm, why exactly, are authorties asking us to trust them and turn in our guns so we can be better protected from bad guys with guns by these good guys with guns? ;-) That whole thing out there should be interesting, to say the least. I heard they pulled motorcycle cops off the street and put them in cars to better protect them from this guy. He's like the Black Avenger or
The Gooch's picture

Case in point!



nmewn's picture


The latest is "universal background checks". So if I want to sell you a gun or you want to sell your neighbor a gun it has to get "government approval"?

Last time I looked a right doesn't need approval from anyone. When I see Piers Morgan getting a government background check on his sanity or criminal record BEFORE spewing his "free speech" nonsense I may reconsider.

But I won't hold my breath ;-)

A Lunatic's picture

These fuckers are attempting to establish a backdoor for  control over intrastate commerce........

TruthInSunshine's picture

I don't say this lightly, but this guy was aggrieved over -- mainly, from what I am able to glean based on what's been posted -- racial tension on an intra-department basis and also as he saw it play out in the real world in terms of dealing with civilians.

This is the tip of the iceberg. There's a whole, wide, thin sheet of ice many officers are standing on, with the most subtle of variables that will make them snap suddenly, from resentment over pay/benefits, to the social stresses involved in the job, inter-office and intra-agency politics, etc.

The Blue Line is strung out, like most of the rest of Americans, during these Bernank'd, FUBAR'd, SNAFU'd, TARFU'd days (or daze).

The final straw that would crash the ice en masse is if imposed P-CODs become routine or irregular.

nmewn's picture

Good point TIS,

One of the things I notice with cops these days (and its not universal but certainly a majority) is you hardly ever see one smile unless they are around each other.

If I were in a career that had me walking around with a perpetual scowl on my face or being forced from above for "revenue" into some weird egomaniacal zeal to hand out citations to little girls parents for lemonade stands and eyeballing every driver looking for a seatbelt violation I'd be looking for something else to do before I snapped.

Bendromeda Strain's picture

I just rewatched the PBS Frontline episode "Law and Disorder" about the NOPD in the Katrina aftermath, and accusations of institutional corruption aside, it showed how good cops who were risking their lives to rescue citizens on one day can be raging, civil rights stomping, gang bangers in blue the next. I know it can be a thankless job, and I understand the comraderie, but in a SHTF situation you have two options - the LA riots where LEOs disappeared, or undeclared martial law where illegal actions are covered up as much as possible.

nmewn's picture

I hear you.

I know a few around here and admittedly where I live they ain't that bad, they live among us, we see them out of uniform at the store or at the ball field...but I travel a distance to work and as you get further away from Mayberry (here) demeanor changes from one of "public servant" to "arm of the state".

Its the arm of the state types I'm concerned about as they are not much different from the ones they arrest. I'll be going under an I-75 overpass on the way in this morniing...and there they'll be...looking for seatbelt infractions, a tail light out, an improper lane change etc.

Nothing but modern day highwaymen ready to pounce on unwary travellers and relieve them of some of their earnings.

GeezerGeek's picture

Florida Highway Patrol needs its own profit centers, as do local constabularies.

BigJim's picture

If these guys refused to enforce unjust laws (ie, anything to do with illegal drugs) the laws would get changed soon enough.

When laws are just, people become policemen to see justice done; when laws are unjust... well, what kind of person would want to help enforce them?

TruthInSunshine's picture

This is  a rational point, but these men/women ultimately become dependent on biggov to feed themselves and their families, and with each passing year on the job I'm sure that any notions of actual justice/right or wrong that they once held diminish and dissipate.

I'm not justifying their acquiescence of and to things theknow are morally suspect and often times wrong, but pointing out that much like soldiers in a war, they become numb to larger issues of morality and what is right versus wrong.

DaveyJones's picture

actually, when lindsay and obama are in the same room, you should still run  

 even worse nmewn is modern background checks for any reason. In my state, working with a few lawyers to try and change the law. They are not very receptive and could care less - they only care about money. Even if you are falsely accused of rape ( I have had clients like this) and the prosecutor figures out the victim is lying and "dismisses the case with prejudice," it can still be accessed in the public record via the internet. Try getting a job with that charge on your record - no matter what the result .

A Lunatic's picture

Here's a very good article on the matter. The article is called 'compromised'


Check this out as well: Sandy Hook Father Owns Congress

DaveyJones's picture

Yeah, luckily the awareness is growing. Unfortunately courts are also making money selling access and the laws on the books regarding record sealing were written mostly before the internet when no one foresaw the ability of someone to cyberly walk into every court in the state and cyberly request a name and file. Thus many of these law (including my state only address the central state database who were the first computer gatekeepers but only kept "guilty" dispositions.  They have become nearly obsolete as the individuals selling this info (and those desiring it) have come to realize that there is a great deal of non-guilty records out there. The problem, and it is a big one, is that the record is hard (often impossible) to distinguish the case dismissed because the person was deemed to be innocent vs the individual getting sometype of first timer deal where the matter is continued and dismissed after a period of informal probation. Add to it that many folks are conned by the system, often young folks, being told that if they take this deal the matter will be "dismissed off the record." Nothing is further from the truth, it stays forever (in our state and many others). The young lad is then made to be a liar, not knowing this cyber reality, then putting on his job application that he "has no criminal record" (cause that's what the judge and his public lawyer, and the prosecutor said would be the result....    

All Risk No Reward's picture

Come on guys.  They have the GPS coordinates of everyone's front door they gathered in the last census.

The government can't waste that information.

Sleep tight!

TruthInSunshine's picture

That wnd site is a honey pot for the Feds. They like to collect/track I.P. pings on visitors to that site. If you must read the tripe, use a proxy offshore in a country having no reciprocity agreement over the transfer of such data, and that multi-mirrors.


Here's a leaked memo from Choombama's OLC for all to peruse at their leisure (Obama seems way more cavalier about this than even I had imagined, and I'm cynical):

Classified Memo To CIA Nominee-Director

Subject:  Truth Tellers Termination Program (aka 'Paint An American Citizen Red, Then White, Then Blue' Program)

To:         Nominee-Director of Al-CIA-Duh, Johnny McBrennan

From:      President Barack "I AM Due Process, Bitch" Obama

              POTUS Controlled Hellfire Missile-Armed Drone Fleet 

Nominee-Director McBrennan,


Please keep foremost in mind the two critical pieces of wisdom that Jean-Claude Juncker & Mariano Rajoy have recently reminded the world's dis-intelligence units of when speaking, testifying or otherwise opening one's mouth, when you appear before CONgress today for your Kabuki Dance:


  • "When it becomes serious, you have to lie."
  • It is all untrue, except for some things.



President Barack "Judge, Jury & EXECUTIONER" Obama

cc:  The Extremely Honorable Jon S. Corzine

nmewn's picture

Agreed Davey,

"even worse nmewn is modern background checks for any reason. In my state, working with a few lawyers to try and change the law."

Show me your papers presumption of course, is guilt until ruled innocent, definitely un-American.

Another thing is drug testing for employment. I have never agreed with it. Again, one is presumed guilty until proven innocent.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."

I say its unreasonable to treat EVERYONE as a common criminal until someone has done something to draw suspicion. Say an accident causing injury while ALREADY EMPLOYED. Then (when the accident happens) you can draw urine or blood to see if they are under the influence of illegal drugs.

I don't give a damn what somebody does on their own time....and no I don't smoke pot or snort coke...its just the principal of the thing with me.

GeezerGeek's picture

I have a slight problem with your assumption that the Fourth Amendment should apply to employers regarding drug testing for employment. 

The Constitution was meant as a restraint on Government, and inititally only on the central government but not on the states. I see nothing in the Constitution that, legitimately considered, should allow the government to interfere with how businesses operate vis-a-vis both employees and customers. In other words, I object to minimum wage laws, mandatory healthcare insurance, forcing businesses to do business with all persons, etc. If a business wants to discriminate and not serve part of the population, that should be out of bounds for the government to regulate.

I do believe that government should treat all citizens equally, and therefore there should be no waivers for such things as Obamacare. I won't go on, because volumes could - and have - been written about this topic. Still, I think you're wrong on this one issue.

nmewn's picture


No problem, we will agree to disagree, amicably.

But I'm old enough to remember that it was the state (not the employer) who started this nonsense as part of their "War on Drugs". Soon, as is always the case, the insurers stepped forward with short term monetary enticements to employers who started doing it.

While I agree an employer has a right to refuse employment to anyone, I don't believe the the employer has any right or say in what someone does on their time, that is to say, the employees time when they are not on the clock. The employer should not "own" the employee when they are not paying them for their services to him/her.

All a drug test is doing is saying they have the remains of X in their system...something they did last night or last week or last month...depending on the drug.

I'm not saying allow drug use during the time you're on the job. I also said (previously) that if there is an injury or property damage the employee submits to a drug test then and there as a term of his/her employment to see if they are high.

That seems reasonable to me.

XitSam's picture

Where would someone, of the age to be in the police academy, learn Nazi Hitler Youth songs? Heck, I wouldn't even recognize the current German National anthem and I lived there for two years. No way justifies his killing but LAPD has some explaining, and not bullshit explaining, to do.


Cheesy Bastard's picture

Never forget that the people have the right to use the NDAA against thier just representatives. It allows for thier indefinite detention with no due process in perpituity.  They will think it sucks when we work the rule against them.  And we will.

fonzannoon's picture

He continued..."Aww, you motherfuckers. Okay. Alright. I'm putting cases on all you bitches. Huh. You think you can do this shit... Jake. You think you can do this to me? You motherfuckers will be playing basketball in Pelican Bay when I get finished with you. SHU program, nigga. 23 hour lockdown. I'm the man up in this piece. You'll never see the light of... who the fuck do you think you're fucking with? I'm the police, I run shit around here. You just live here. Yeah, that's right, you better walk away. Go on and walk away... 'cause I'm gonna' burn this motherfucker down. King Kong ain't got shit on me. That's right, that's right. Shit, I don't, fuck. I'm winning anyway, I'm winning... I'm winning any motherfucking way. I can't lose. Yeah, you can shoot me, but you can't kill me."

Overfed's picture

I hope he takes out Swinestein and Boxer for starters.

localsavage's picture

But they hate our freedom...WTF???

Uncle Sugar's picture

Really, Lindsay is hardly a pillar of Libertarianism. He usually bows to the Left.

ebworthen's picture

Lindsey Graham is a lily-livered barnacle on the aft section just below the privy of the garbage scow "U.S.S.A. Kleptohegemony".

Sands8oo's picture

FUCK YEAH BITCHEZ!!!  This is the bi-partisan compromise I'm talkin about!  Politicans coming together and working to fight the mutherfuckers who HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM!



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Redhotfill's picture

You forgot,  It has electrolites!

The Gooch's picture

Don't run, Michael Krieger. Stand and fight with us.

"Give me Liberty or give me Reeboks?" No.

bobthehorse's picture

Obama's a tough SOB.

Conservatives like to compare him to Carter.

He reminds me more of Nixon.

Talk about hubris.

LetThemEatRand's picture

We have always been at war with Eurasia.

LetThemEatRand's picture

Yes.  Them as well.  The axis of Evasia.

The Gooch's picture

They surely can't evades ya forevah!

knightowl77's picture

What have we become? No one in DC seems to understand a thing.....Sad

kliguy38's picture

Oh, make no mistake, they fully understand what they are least in the sense they know it is evil and they know the power that is giving them their orders. I am saddened that no patriots are stepping forward......evil must be cannot stand the light....

The Gooch's picture

"WE" are becoming enlightened and motivated.

"THEY" are becoming desperate and careless.

WE will prevail.

Good Day

Lucius Cornelius Sulla's picture

Seattle just banned drones.  Sent them back to the manufacturer after City Hall protesters had it out with the council.  The ACLU was a big help.

GeezerGeek's picture

One person's patriot is another's terrorist. Why step forward only to get verbally disemboweled?

Not all that long ago there was this person who should have been the icon of feminists. A successful mother, businesswoman, courageous anti-establishment politician. She spoke up. Got dragged into the mud. Had her children dragged into the mud. Her detractors were willing to mock her because of what some dumb actress said. Even here on ZH I see her mocked. 

Anyone else remember the real Sarah Palin? How many patriots have the courage to endure what she and her family have?

Let the responses begin, but please deal in facts, not innuendo or ad hominem attacks.

nofluer's picture

I voted for her. No. I did NOT vote for McSame. I figured 1. I knew something about her from her revealed past. (We knew nothing about Obummner, and if Obummer Sr was his daddy, he is NOT Constitutionally eligible to run or be elected President of the US.) 2. My hope was that, since lots of us figured (and still do) that McSame was off his rocker (mentally), he'd be set aside as being mentally incompetent and Sarah would be President. I couldn't wait for her to do nationally what she did in Alaska - root out the snakes and crooks!

And for all the compliant twinkies out there who would follow in Katie C's footsteps... little Katie's career has been doong really great things since her hatchet job, hasn't it. (Not!)

AldoHux_IV's picture

Trolls and maggots occupy the hallowed halls of congress and the white house-- all hail our supreme leaders for they are wise and brave; gentle but unforgiving; dumb but cleverer than the next-- how can we celebrate these brave scum further? Nobel prizes for all who support our dear leader and shame to all who mock his god-given right to rule over us.

Falconsixone's picture

Washington, Jefferson and Thomas Paine are wondering what the holdup is on the firing squads. They're embarrassed as hell and they're dead.

tom a taxpayer's picture

Lindsay and BO are playing with each other's joystick.