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Guest Post: When Lindsay Graham And Barrack Obama Agree... Run The Other Way Fast

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The easiest way for a patriotic, civil liberties defending U.S. citizen to know whether to support or oppose an issue is when two of the most authoritative, narcissistic politicians from the two controlled political parties in America are in strong agreement. In this case, I am referring to Lindsay Graham and Barack Obama’s recent love fest on drone warfare.  From Politico:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) will offer a resolution next week commending President Barack Obama’s use of drones and the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki.

 

“Every member of Congress needs to get on board,” Graham said. “It’s not fair to the president to let him, leave him out there alone quite frankly. He’s getting hit from libertarians and the left.

“Everyone needs to get on board...” in commending the death of someone from 30,000 feet?  What kind of Nazi talk is this?  So this is what America has become.  Politicians with 10% approval ratings patting themselves on the back for killing other human beings without ever getting their hands dirty.  USA! USA!

Full article here.

 

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Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:46 | 3224685 msmith9962
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Dont shoot till you see the whites of their eyes on your crystal clear samsung led screen.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:51 | 3224701 ihedgemyhedges
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Little Linsey Graham cracker can kiss my arse..........he's useless if you're trying to move liberty forward instead of the current trajectory of backward...........

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:57 | 3224709 sunaJ
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This is the kind of issue and rah-rah-rah-ing that can bring our congress together!  No, not to tackle corporate fraud, taxes or spending, silly - united behind drone murder without judicial review!   Honestly, if these asshats got their way, every little thing that scared them would be outlawed. 

Cowards and corporate hacks.

 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:02 | 3224723 nmewn
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Fucking assholes, its very easy for the elites, who have 24/7/365 protection, to think no harm will ever befall them, from their actions or decisions.

I'm sure a bunch of cops out in LA felt the same way until a "bot in blue" went rogue.

"Whatever pre-planned responses you have established for a scenario like me, shelve it. Whatever contingency plan you have, shelve it. Whatever tertiary plan you’ve created, shelve it. I am a walking exigent circumstance with no OFF or reset button. JRIC, DOJ, LASD, FBI and other local LE can’t assist and should not involve themselves in a matter that does not concern them. For all other agencies, do not involve yourself in this capture or recovery of me. Look at the big picture of the situation. They (LAPD) created the situation."

http://www.soopermexican.com/2013/02/07/news-media-scrub-cop-murderers-manifesto-of-pro-obama-pro-hillary-loved-msnbc-pro-gay-and-anti-gun-comments/#more-3288

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:33 | 3224781 nmewn
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Pretty wild, here's some more...

"During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, Abraham Schefres, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for Abraham Schefres when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How fucking dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. Abraham Schefres about the incident when Ofcr. Burdios began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.
The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving Schefres was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While on a assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers Hermilio Buridios IV and Marlon Magana (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard Magana refer to another individual as a nigger. I wasn't sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer Magana call an indivdual a nigger again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told Magana not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, "I'll say it when I want". Officer Burdios, a friend of his, also stated that he would say nigger when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around Burdios' neck and squeezed. I stated to Burdios, "Don't fucking say that". At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana's skull. The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately." http://www.crimefilenews.com/ Sooo, ummm, why exactly, are authorties asking us to trust them and turn in our guns so we can be better protected from bad guys with guns by these good guys with guns? ;-) That whole thing out there should be interesting, to say the least. I heard they pulled motorcycle cops off the street and put them in cars to better protect them from this guy. He's like the Black Avenger or sumpin...lol.
Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:36 | 3224792 The Gooch
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Case in point!

WILL NOT COMPLY.

MOLON LABE!


Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:49 | 3224825 nmewn
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Never.

The latest is "universal background checks". So if I want to sell you a gun or you want to sell your neighbor a gun it has to get "government approval"?

Last time I looked a right doesn't need approval from anyone. When I see Piers Morgan getting a government background check on his sanity or criminal record BEFORE spewing his "free speech" nonsense I may reconsider.

But I won't hold my breath ;-)

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:14 | 3224998 A Lunatic
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These fuckers are attempting to establish a backdoor for  control over intrastate commerce........

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 01:43 | 3225239 TruthInSunshine
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I don't say this lightly, but this guy was aggrieved over -- mainly, from what I am able to glean based on what's been posted -- racial tension on an intra-department basis and also as he saw it play out in the real world in terms of dealing with civilians.

This is the tip of the iceberg. There's a whole, wide, thin sheet of ice many officers are standing on, with the most subtle of variables that will make them snap suddenly, from resentment over pay/benefits, to the social stresses involved in the job, inter-office and intra-agency politics, etc.

The Blue Line is strung out, like most of the rest of Americans, during these Bernank'd, FUBAR'd, SNAFU'd, TARFU'd days (or daze).

The final straw that would crash the ice en masse is if imposed P-CODs become routine or irregular.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 07:13 | 3225360 nmewn
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Good point TIS,

One of the things I notice with cops these days (and its not universal but certainly a majority) is you hardly ever see one smile unless they are around each other.

If I were in a career that had me walking around with a perpetual scowl on my face or being forced from above for "revenue" into some weird egomaniacal zeal to hand out citations to little girls parents for lemonade stands and eyeballing every driver looking for a seatbelt violation I'd be looking for something else to do before I snapped.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 07:33 | 3225369 Bendromeda Strain
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I just rewatched the PBS Frontline episode "Law and Disorder" about the NOPD in the Katrina aftermath, and accusations of institutional corruption aside, it showed how good cops who were risking their lives to rescue citizens on one day can be raging, civil rights stomping, gang bangers in blue the next. I know it can be a thankless job, and I understand the comraderie, but in a SHTF situation you have two options - the LA riots where LEOs disappeared, or undeclared martial law where illegal actions are covered up as much as possible.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 08:06 | 3225396 nmewn
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I hear you.

I know a few around here and admittedly where I live they ain't that bad, they live among us, we see them out of uniform at the store or at the ball field...but I travel a distance to work and as you get further away from Mayberry (here)...lol...their demeanor changes from one of "public servant" to "arm of the state".

Its the arm of the state types I'm concerned about as they are not much different from the ones they arrest. I'll be going under an I-75 overpass on the way in this morniing...and there they'll be...looking for seatbelt infractions, a tail light out, an improper lane change etc.

Nothing but modern day highwaymen ready to pounce on unwary travellers and relieve them of some of their earnings.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 10:21 | 3225624 GeezerGeek
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Florida Highway Patrol needs its own profit centers, as do local constabularies.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:40 | 3225883 BigJim
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If these guys refused to enforce unjust laws (ie, anything to do with illegal drugs) the laws would get changed soon enough.

When laws are just, people become policemen to see justice done; when laws are unjust... well, what kind of person would want to help enforce them?

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 23:45 | 3228149 TruthInSunshine
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This is  a rational point, but these men/women ultimately become dependent on biggov to feed themselves and their families, and with each passing year on the job I'm sure that any notions of actual justice/right or wrong that they once held diminish and dissipate.

I'm not justifying their acquiescence of and to things theknow are morally suspect and often times wrong, but pointing out that much like soldiers in a war, they become numb to larger issues of morality and what is right versus wrong.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:31 | 3225028 DaveyJones
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actually, when lindsay and obama are in the same room, you should still run  

 even worse nmewn is modern background checks for any reason. In my state, working with a few lawyers to try and change the law. They are not very receptive and could care less - they only care about money. Even if you are falsely accused of rape ( I have had clients like this) and the prosecutor figures out the victim is lying and "dismisses the case with prejudice," it can still be accessed in the public record via the internet. Try getting a job with that charge on your record - no matter what the result .

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:41 | 3225044 A Lunatic
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Here's a very good article on the matter. The article is called 'compromised'

http://www.woodpilereport.com/

 

Check this out as well: Sandy Hook Father Owns Congress

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dhXPlCjr0Vw

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:44 | 3225059 DaveyJones
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Yeah, luckily the awareness is growing. Unfortunately courts are also making money selling access and the laws on the books regarding record sealing were written mostly before the internet when no one foresaw the ability of someone to cyberly walk into every court in the state and cyberly request a name and file. Thus many of these law (including my state only address the central state database who were the first computer gatekeepers but only kept "guilty" dispositions.  They have become nearly obsolete as the individuals selling this info (and those desiring it) have come to realize that there is a great deal of non-guilty records out there. The problem, and it is a big one, is that the record is hard (often impossible) to distinguish the case dismissed because the person was deemed to be innocent vs the individual getting sometype of first timer deal where the matter is continued and dismissed after a period of informal probation. Add to it that many folks are conned by the system, often young folks, being told that if they take this deal the matter will be "dismissed off the record." Nothing is further from the truth, it stays forever (in our state and many others). The young lad is then made to be a liar, not knowing this cyber reality, then putting on his job application that he "has no criminal record" (cause that's what the judge and his public lawyer, and the prosecutor said would be the result....    

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 00:09 | 3225120 All Risk No Reward
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Come on guys.  They have the GPS coordinates of everyone's front door they gathered in the last census.

http://www.wnd.com/2009/05/97208/

The government can't waste that information.

Sleep tight!

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 01:52 | 3225232 TruthInSunshine
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That wnd site is a honey pot for the Feds. They like to collect/track I.P. pings on visitors to that site. If you must read the tripe, use a proxy offshore in a country having no reciprocity agreement over the transfer of such data, and that multi-mirrors.

 

Here's a leaked memo from Choombama's OLC for all to peruse at their leisure (Obama seems way more cavalier about this than even I had imagined, and I'm cynical):

Classified Memo To CIA Nominee-Director

Subject:  Truth Tellers Termination Program (aka 'Paint An American Citizen Red, Then White, Then Blue' Program)

To:         Nominee-Director of Al-CIA-Duh, Johnny McBrennan

From:      President Barack "I AM Due Process, Bitch" Obama

              POTUS Controlled Hellfire Missile-Armed Drone Fleet 

Nominee-Director McBrennan,

 

Please keep foremost in mind the two critical pieces of wisdom that Jean-Claude Juncker & Mariano Rajoy have recently reminded the world's dis-intelligence units of when speaking, testifying or otherwise opening one's mouth, when you appear before CONgress today for your Kabuki Dance:

 

  • "When it becomes serious, you have to lie."
  • It is all untrue, except for some things.

 

Sincerely,

President Barack "Judge, Jury & EXECUTIONER" Obama

cc:  The Extremely Honorable Jon S. Corzine

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 07:27 | 3225367 nmewn
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Agreed Davey,

"even worse nmewn is modern background checks for any reason. In my state, working with a few lawyers to try and change the law."

Show me your papers comrade...lol...the presumption of course, is guilt until ruled innocent, definitely un-American.

Another thing is drug testing for employment. I have never agreed with it. Again, one is presumed guilty until proven innocent.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."

I say its unreasonable to treat EVERYONE as a common criminal until someone has done something to draw suspicion. Say an accident causing injury while ALREADY EMPLOYED. Then (when the accident happens) you can draw urine or blood to see if they are under the influence of illegal drugs.

I don't give a damn what somebody does on their own time....and no I don't smoke pot or snort coke...its just the principal of the thing with me.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 10:34 | 3225666 GeezerGeek
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I have a slight problem with your assumption that the Fourth Amendment should apply to employers regarding drug testing for employment. 

The Constitution was meant as a restraint on Government, and inititally only on the central government but not on the states. I see nothing in the Constitution that, legitimately considered, should allow the government to interfere with how businesses operate vis-a-vis both employees and customers. In other words, I object to minimum wage laws, mandatory healthcare insurance, forcing businesses to do business with all persons, etc. If a business wants to discriminate and not serve part of the population, that should be out of bounds for the government to regulate.

I do believe that government should treat all citizens equally, and therefore there should be no waivers for such things as Obamacare. I won't go on, because volumes could - and have - been written about this topic. Still, I think you're wrong on this one issue.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 19:58 | 3227595 nmewn
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+1

No problem, we will agree to disagree, amicably.

But I'm old enough to remember that it was the state (not the employer) who started this nonsense as part of their "War on Drugs". Soon, as is always the case, the insurers stepped forward with short term monetary enticements to employers who started doing it.

While I agree an employer has a right to refuse employment to anyone, I don't believe the the employer has any right or say in what someone does on their time, that is to say, the employees time when they are not on the clock. The employer should not "own" the employee when they are not paying them for their services to him/her.

All a drug test is doing is saying they have the remains of X in their system...something they did last night or last week or last month...depending on the drug.

I'm not saying allow drug use during the time you're on the job. I also said (previously) that if there is an injury or property damage the employee submits to a drug test then and there as a term of his/her employment to see if they are high.

That seems reasonable to me.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:18 | 3224881 XitSam
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Where would someone, of the age to be in the police academy, learn Nazi Hitler Youth songs? Heck, I wouldn't even recognize the current German National anthem and I lived there for two years. No way justifies his killing but LAPD has some explaining, and not bullshit explaining, to do.

 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:18 | 3224755 Cheesy Bastard
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Never forget that the people have the right to use the NDAA against thier just representatives. It allows for thier indefinite detention with no due process in perpituity.  They will think it sucks when we work the rule against them.  And we will.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:16 | 3224756 fonzannoon
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He continued..."Aww, you motherfuckers. Okay. Alright. I'm putting cases on all you bitches. Huh. You think you can do this shit... Jake. You think you can do this to me? You motherfuckers will be playing basketball in Pelican Bay when I get finished with you. SHU program, nigga. 23 hour lockdown. I'm the man up in this piece. You'll never see the light of... who the fuck do you think you're fucking with? I'm the police, I run shit around here. You just live here. Yeah, that's right, you better walk away. Go on and walk away... 'cause I'm gonna' burn this motherfucker down. King Kong ain't got shit on me. That's right, that's right. Shit, I don't, fuck. I'm winning anyway, I'm winning... I'm winning any motherfucking way. I can't lose. Yeah, you can shoot me, but you can't kill me."

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:23 | 3224767 The Gooch
Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:52 | 3224830 Overfed
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I hope he takes out Swinestein and Boxer for starters.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:05 | 3224733 localsavage
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But they hate our freedom...WTF???

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:16 | 3224754 LetThemEatRand
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They love our Fiefdom.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:24 | 3225022 Uncle Sugar
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Really, Lindsay is hardly a pillar of Libertarianism. He usually bows to the Left.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 00:16 | 3225133 ebworthen
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Lindsey Graham is a lily-livered barnacle on the aft section just below the privy of the garbage scow "U.S.S.A. Kleptohegemony".

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:27 | 3225030 Sands8oo
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FUCK YEAH BITCHEZ!!!  This is the bi-partisan compromise I'm talkin about!  Politicans coming together and working to fight the mutherfuckers who HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM!

USA! USA! USA!

 

(This message brought to you by Brawndo, The Thirst Mutilator)

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 03:58 | 3225292 Redhotfill
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You forgot,  It has electrolites!

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:44 | 3224708 The Gooch
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Don't run, Michael Krieger. Stand and fight with us.

"Give me Liberty or give me Reeboks?" No.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 00:49 | 3225180 bobthehorse
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Obama's a tough SOB.

Conservatives like to compare him to Carter.

He reminds me more of Nixon.

Talk about hubris.

http://www.angrysinner.blogspot.kr/2013/02/friday.html

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:46 | 3224688 LetThemEatRand
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We have always been at war with Eurasia.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:52 | 3224705 a growing concern
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I thought it was Oceanasia?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:54 | 3224712 LetThemEatRand
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Yes.  Them as well.  The axis of Evasia.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:59 | 3224719 The Gooch
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They surely can't evades ya forevah!

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:46 | 3224690 knightowl77
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What have we become? No one in DC seems to understand a thing.....Sad

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:51 | 3224704 kliguy38
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Oh, make no mistake, they fully understand what they are doing....at least in the sense they know it is evil and they know the power that is giving them their orders. I am saddened that no patriots are stepping forward......evil must be confronted.....it cannot stand the light....

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:05 | 3224732 The Gooch
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"WE" are becoming enlightened and motivated.

"THEY" are becoming desperate and careless.

WE will prevail.

Good Day

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:58 | 3225067 Lucius Corneliu...
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Seattle just banned drones.  Sent them back to the manufacturer after City Hall protesters had it out with the council.  The ACLU was a big help. 

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2013/02/mcginn-ends-seattle-police-d...

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 10:42 | 3225691 GeezerGeek
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One person's patriot is another's terrorist. Why step forward only to get verbally disemboweled?

Not all that long ago there was this person who should have been the icon of feminists. A successful mother, businesswoman, courageous anti-establishment politician. She spoke up. Got dragged into the mud. Had her children dragged into the mud. Her detractors were willing to mock her because of what some dumb actress said. Even here on ZH I see her mocked. 

Anyone else remember the real Sarah Palin? How many patriots have the courage to endure what she and her family have?

Let the responses begin, but please deal in facts, not innuendo or ad hominem attacks.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 12:41 | 3226053 nofluer
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I voted for her. No. I did NOT vote for McSame. I figured 1. I knew something about her from her revealed past. (We knew nothing about Obummner, and if Obummer Sr was his daddy, he is NOT Constitutionally eligible to run or be elected President of the US.) 2. My hope was that, since lots of us figured (and still do) that McSame was off his rocker (mentally), he'd be set aside as being mentally incompetent and Sarah would be President. I couldn't wait for her to do nationally what she did in Alaska - root out the snakes and crooks!

And for all the compliant twinkies out there who would follow in Katie C's footsteps... little Katie's career has been doong really great things since her hatchet job, hasn't it. (Not!)

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:47 | 3224693 AldoHux_IV
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Trolls and maggots occupy the hallowed halls of congress and the white house-- all hail our supreme leaders for they are wise and brave; gentle but unforgiving; dumb but cleverer than the next-- how can we celebrate these brave scum further? Nobel prizes for all who support our dear leader and shame to all who mock his god-given right to rule over us.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:24 | 3225020 Falconsixone
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Washington, Jefferson and Thomas Paine are wondering what the holdup is on the firing squads. They're embarrassed as hell and they're dead.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:47 | 3224694 tom a taxpayer
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Lindsay and BO are playing with each other's joystick.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:51 | 3224703 LetThemEatRand
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So I suppose that means that Lindsay has an O gasm every time that BO's drone shoots its load?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:01 | 3224721 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

So I suppose that means that Lindsay has an O gasm every time that BO's drone shoots its load?

Yep. That's one of the reasons Lindsay and McCain wear diapers.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:13 | 3224745 LetThemEatRand
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Gives a whole new meaning to "adult" diapers.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:46 | 3224820 The Gooch
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"Depends" on the price.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:50 | 3224697 Jugdish
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Both Barry and Graham are rumored to like male butt and genitalia. The more you observe the two the more the rumors seem true. Are there any gay men on here with a sufficient gay-dar to confirm or deny the circulating rumors of male butt love from these two bankster puppets?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:57 | 3224699 Overfed
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Fuck you Lindsey Graham, you shit-eating douchenozzle.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:51 | 3224702 Bad Attitude
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"When Lindsay Graham And Barrack Obama Agree... Run The Other Way Fast."

That is an unnecessarily complicated analysis. The only significant variable is Obama - when Obama supports something... run the other way fast (and make sure you still have your wallet).

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:02 | 3224960 The Gooch
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"Livestrong"!

Run Rabbit Run.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:55 | 3224713 fonzannoon
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Jon Stewart is a Lib douche but his opening monologue last night regarding drones and Obama was tremendous. If someone sees the link please post it, I will look for it as well.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:03 | 3224726 LetThemEatRand
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I used to love watching the Daily Show, but I agree that he's fallen victim to the "our guy can do no wrong" syndrome.  Stopped watching Stewart a while ago for that reason.  But I've noticed recently that many Opologists like Stewart, Huffington, and others are actually beginning to call him out on some of his neo-con shit.  It's a start.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:11 | 3224743 fonzannoon
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I completely agree. I watched it very frequently and I thought he at least did a decent job of calling out his own guys. He completely mailed it in during the election. I think he felt he had to throw everyhing behind Obama to make sure he got in. So I was surprised to see this.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/wed-feb-6-2013/17wwqfyxc

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:26 | 3224774 LetThemEatRand
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Good stuff.  Maybe it's a good sign.  

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:48 | 3224822 The Gooch
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No. It's just the visible hand.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 09:13 | 3225479 Bob
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RT had a damn good show on the NDAA last night that included a long, brutally honest interview with Chris Hedges (lead plaintiff in Hedges v Obama.)  In keeping with their amateur show format, however, I don't see any video of it available anywhere, including their own site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedges_v._Obama

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:23 | 3224769 moroots
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+1 for Opologists

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 04:02 | 3225294 Redhotfill
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LOL!  How does it matter the election is over and we got Douchebag again.  Its safe to give him shit now it wont have any effect, other thangiving them some street cred.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:57 | 3224717 vintageyz
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People of South Carolina, please make a resolution to vote Mr. Shit-Eating Douchenozzle (h/t overfed) out of office.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:02 | 3224725 knowless
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holy fuck the politico comments are insane.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:54 | 3224836 The Gooch
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I've recently ventured far and wide on the interwebs to get a pulse. Interesting times.

Believers in Liberty are surely not alone.

Disclosure- The left leaning sites lead to excessive drinking.

Zh'er "Headbanger"'s avatar succinctly describes the experience of debating the "uninformed voter".

 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:04 | 3224730 Spaceman Spiff
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L. Graham could have been First Lady if McCain won. I bet he is catty with Michelle.

As for the topic at hand, it seems that if we want to neuter Barack Obama the best way will be to kick the senator in the jaw.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:59 | 3225092 Harbanger
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Did you notice the article spelled his name bar-rack obama.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:13 | 3224746 Jack Burton
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The drone was dreamed up to replace America's former economic power house with it's only form of power in the 21st century, the power to kill. As our economy has sunk the power of our military and police state have grown. America  is spending it's remaining wealth on a collection of weapons, armies, police and intelliegnce agencies that surpasses the spending of all of planet earth combined. Most of this spending is now coming from Fed monitization of US debt as there are not enough buyers to soak up all the treasuries issued. What the Fed doesn't buy, foreign nations and pension funds snap up. Our debts spiral upwards and all the Social Security surpluses of the past decades have been spent on weapons and wars, leaving only treasury bills that taxpayers owe to themselves for retirment funding.

In short, as our military and secret police have reached unheard of powers, the nation as a whole is sinking into oblivion. Racked with debt and a growing underclass and army of unemployed. Fake asset inflation is what is called economic growth. While real jobs bleed into China and other rising economies.

The only question is How long can the US spend more than the rest of the earth on weapons, armies, drones and secret police at a time when most of the money must be borrowed or printed by the Fed? Time is NOT on our side.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:14 | 3224750 trillion_dollar...
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DRONES4EVA

DUEPROCESS4NEVA

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:39 | 3224801 toomanyfakecons...
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That's the "Al-CIA-da" way.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:19 | 3224764 D-liverSil-ver
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Take the wings off a drone and it looks like a giant ****.

Maybe that is the attraction.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:03 | 3224968 The Gooch
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Take the wings off a drone and it looks like Iranian State T.V.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:21 | 3224765 RonBurgundy
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Lindsay Graham is a faggot

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:39 | 3224802 Oldrepublic
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a real war lover in the best traditions of  South Carolina

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:51 | 3224936 Jack Burton
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Lindsay Graham is what we would have called in Boot Camp a "Peter Puffer"!

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:15 | 3225000 Falconsixone
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He just got his asshole sewed tighter  (only 44 stiches) for his new bff (fag and fuck in there somewhere).

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:23 | 3224766 Falconsixone
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Ha ........"Not Fair".....Fuck that peice of dog shit cock sucking son of a bitch and fuck you "lindsay" .......Go DIE you old worthless turd burgler.

 

 

Try living in America you stupid dust bag.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:18 | 3224880 W74
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Most of America's politicians are living in Israel....at least their minds are living there. 

It is also the case that they and only they are freedom loving citizens and must restrict the rights and freedoms of Americans (for our own good of course) and not feel a lick of guilt when bombing freedom-loving mountain people in central and SW Asia (and whatever kids happen to be around at the time).

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:53 | 3224941 Jack Burton
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America's political class has as it's first concern the State of Israel. The USA and it's people come in second to the chosen state.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:32 | 3224780 One World Mafia
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FBI Admits Pentagon Dinner Guest al-Awlaki Worked for Them"

Anwar al-Awlaki was allegedly killed in October of 2011 by a CIA Predator drone in Yemen. The following year, he supposedly called for biological attacks on America from the grave.

http://www.infowars.com/fbi-admits-pentagon-dinner-guest-al-awlaki-worke...

Anwar Awlaki killed by U.S. drone in Yemen

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/01/world/la-fg-awlaki-killed-201110...

http://www.infowars.com/supposedly-dead-al-awlaki-calls-for-chemical-and...

Since alternative media unearthed the dinner guest story in 2010 the Pentagon has been claiming they let Awlaki dine there as part of an outreach to the Muslim community in the immediate aftermath of the 911 attacks. They even had him giving presentations. Small world huh. After the story broke the White House tried to build a cover of ineptness by letting some odd ball party crashers get close to the prez.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:36 | 3224909 The Gooch
Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:40 | 3224797 Yen Cross
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    The "Congress of the United States" has turned into a giant ala-cart Joses Burrito. I realize you are either laughing, or think I'm off my rocker.

     Every time a deal is kicked down the road, it gets some fresh new condiments. Example; when we had that .1 GDP miss, it was blamed on Military spending.

     The projected short fall of GDP is 1% with sequestration. The projected cost of sequestration is $200b. Something tells me "earmarks" and "inflation projections>pork" are priced in. 

   Let's move a bit further forward, shall we? If the GAO is pricing in inflation costs, and denies pork spending, shouldn't the people have an argument, against spending?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:43 | 3224809 grunk
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I'm not turning buttside to Lindsay Graham.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:10 | 3224982 Falconsixone
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Yeah Jugdish ..lol....21:17 birth certificate ref. takes our commander in dipshit narcissism a full minute to quit crying because he dont got none....boohoo

Dr. Benjamin Carson for President 2016...or now even better.

 

Thanks Jugdish what a great day...lol

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:25 | 3225025 Overfed
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Sure hope he doesn't have a heart attack or commit suicide or become the victim of some sort of random violence or have a canoe accident or a car crash.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:04 | 3224833 earleflorida
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Lindsey Graham-- sub-cmte. [s.c.] defense appropriations

http://www.appropriations.senate.gov/sc-defense.cfm

get's u.s. hear?  "The Pentagon's Palmetto Patsy" [10/17/12]

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/author/w-james-antle-iii/

scroll down for article.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:59 | 3224844 Unstable Condition
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No difference between the two party's establishments???

The hell you say?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:58 | 3224949 Tursas
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Has never been...

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:28 | 3224897 blindman
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http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/node/3239
Governments, corps, cops, and crims want them--privacy lovers left and right don't

The drone-industrial complex wants 30,000 eyes in the sky spying on us Americans by 2020

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:58 | 3224935 The Gooch
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Cessnas and Snipers unite!

The ghost of Joe Stack encourages you.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 09:22 | 3225493 Bob
Sat, 02/09/2013 - 11:11 | 3228583 blindman
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and who is paying for all this? oh, never mind.
omniscience and omipotence from the sky directed
by moral and ethical mutants from the sewer of lawless
and fraud based anxiety. never mind.....

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:33 | 3224905 world_debt_slave
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Graham is a well known turncoat.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:56 | 3224947 Tursas
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Like the black and white in Kabul?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:50 | 3224933 Magnum
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Lindsey Graham looks and acts and lives his life like a homosexual.

Somehow everything he does is on behalf of israel--witness the recent charade at the Hagel hearings for an example.

The FBI should investigate Lindsey Graham to find out what israel has on him, and how they are using it as blackmail.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:04 | 3224967 MrPalladium
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You know the old saying!

You can do anything on the Hill, just don't get caught with a dead girl or a live boy!!

Graham and DebtBro are both on video tape and must do what they are told.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 17:06 | 3227152 mqg25
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Lindsey is a man with scruples. No way he will show the FBI those blackmail pictures of him and those little boys that some time back showed up in the passenger seat of his car.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:51 | 3224934 Hillbilly Hedger
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As a citizen of South Carolina I'll use my first post to say Fuck you Lindsay......and you to Barack. Sorry Ben didn't mean to leave you out Fuck you too

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:00 | 3224952 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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We would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:10 | 3224985 hooligan2009
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anyone can make a drone..its as easy as IED...drone wars are upon us and its not a star wars movie

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:46 | 3225063 Spastica Rex
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Is "libertarian" now a term of derision like "left?"

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 23:56 | 3225087 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Good question. And if it is, I'll take it. Like my mother used to say you can't please everyone so if the only people you are piss off are the right ones then your actions are correct.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 00:03 | 3225099 ebworthen
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Five stars and +100 for the opening paragraph Mr. Krieger, which says it all.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 00:35 | 3225160 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I don't watch fox news anymore but Judge Napolitano really lays into Obama on this. Read his justification for it.

President Obama gives himself permission to kill

 

The president cannot lawfully order the killing of anyone, except according to the Constitution and federal law. Under the Constitution, he can only order killing using the military when the U.S. has been attacked or when an attack is so imminent that delay would cost innocent lives. He can also order killing using the military in pursuit of a declaration of war enacted by Congress.

Unless Obama knows that an attack from Yemen on our shores is imminent, he’d be hard-pressed to argue that a guy in a car in the desert 10,000 miles from here -- no matter his intentions -- poses a threat so imminent to the U.S. that he needs to be killed on the spot in order to save the lives of Americans who would surely die during the time it would take to declare war on the country that harbors him, or during the time it would take to arrest him. Under no lawful circumstances may he use CIA agents for killing. Surely, CIA agents can use deadly force defensively to protect themselves and their assets, but they may not use it offensively. Federal laws against murder apply to the president and to all federal agents and personnel in their official capacities, wherever they go on the planet.

 

Obama has argued that he can kill Americans whose deaths he believes will keep us all safer, without any due process whatsoever. No law authorizes that.

His attorney general has argued that the president’s careful consideration of each target and the narrow use of deadly force are an adequate and constitutional substitute for due process. No court has ever approved that.

And his national security adviser has argued that the use of drones is humane since they are “surgical” and only kill their targets. We know that is incorrect, as the folks who monitor all this say that 11 percent to 17 percent of the 2,300 drone-caused deaths have been those of innocent bystanders.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 10:34 | 3225664 shovelhead
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It all makes perfect sense if you see the US devolved into a banana republic with no rule of law other than what the ruling Junta wants.

Substitute TBTF finanancials for United Fruit and it's pretty clear what the New Normal will look like.

Drones make it easy to make people 'disappear' overseas and the eventual outcome will be more disappeared on US soil.

Strange to think that those of us who want reform with an equally applied rule of law and free markets are the new Fidelistas.

Viva la Revolution.

 

 

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 01:48 | 3225244 Nels
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Giving arms to rebels in a foreign country is an act of war.  Blowing up folks in random places in the globe are acts of war.

It's not a good pattern.  At somepoint, the one-worlders will insist that 1) such actions are necessary, but that 2) these powers need to be in the hands of a new global entity.   It will be easy to do, once the US economy collapses and the military is hollowed out.  The other option will be to try the entire US for war crimes for such behavior.

The argument for having sovereign countries is that we can figure out our differences without bombing each other.  Obama is making the argument that this isn't true any more.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 03:16 | 3225284 mrmister
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Thank you Lindsey for clearing up your position.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 03:17 | 3225286 el-greco
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"He’s getting hit from libertarians and the left." Any nation whose leaders are so desperate to control everything already has a leftist government in place.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 08:47 | 3225439 Accounting101
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Right, what we have now is a leftist government. Stop the tribal bullshit! We have an unholy alliance between the state and very powerful private entities that dictate all of our economic, social and military outcomes. Private entities force the state to secure their debt and the state asassinates American citizens with weaponry developed by private industry. That is not leftist, that is fascist.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 04:46 | 3225317 AnAnonymous
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When you think of it, taking into account the reactions by fine specimens of 'americanism', this story of drones is sheer fun.

So what do we have here?

As 'american' middle classers, they keep calling for robotization of labour as it would solve certain issues with work being performed by 'americans'

So their servants (that the elected personal) hear them: they start to robotize that work called soldiering and use drones instead.

Unfortunately for the loyal and dedicated servants, 'american' love for easy wars, murdering and theft is such middle classers come up to denounce this robotization.

Robotization is okay but not for easy wars. 'Americans' want to feel the adrenaline rush they feel when killing people. They are addicted to it.

And when the guy in command of a drone feels it, robotization forces a downsizing in the human workforce number. Too few positions to command drones for american liking.

Robotization? Yes, if it means put chineses out of work. No, if it means depriving good hard working 'american' middle class from the opportunity of kicking starting their life living off blood money.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:18 | 3225822 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous said:

'Americans' want to feel the adrenaline rush they feel when killing people. They are addicted to it.

Made me laugh. More flightings of fantasy from the tralala land of AnAnonymous.

Robotization? Yes, if it means put chineses out of work. No, if it means depriving good hard working 'american' middle class from the opportunity of kicking starting their life living off blood money.

You used to make more sense back in 2010. You were more coherent, made some decent points, and occasionally employed humour to good effect.

Now your endless repeations somehow make you dronelike.

Have you been given a robotomy?

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 07:57 | 3225386 Rusty Shorts
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Listen to this douche nozzle, jeeesh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1xSY-g0Ghk

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 08:05 | 3225393 bg6666
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Trying to give back our local government to the citizens. If its this bad here, can't even imagine the absolutely corruption on Federal or Global levels.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oJBIr4dg9jU

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 08:40 | 3225432 lakecity55
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Look, BHO, if you want my help, we have to have drones armed and flying. The folks back home are fed up and gonna vote me out. You can't flip enough votes. I need those drones, and so do you. I've got to eliminate those primary candidates next year. You need to get rid of Pratt and that Oathkeepers guy. This is a win for both of us!

 

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 09:05 | 3225464 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Even Al Sharpton is slamming the drone policy.

First thing I've heard the man say in years that makes any sense.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 10:42 | 3225695 shovelhead
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Yeah,

Its really bad when the small Free Shit Army gets nervous.

The big Free Shit Army is happy as hell though.

Mo' money.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:26 | 3225837 Hail Spode
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Didn't the late great George Carlin observe that when the word "bi-partisan" was used it usually meant that a larger-than-usual deception was being carried out?

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