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Santelli On The Hypocrisy Of The Elites: "No One Will Ever Take Away The Punchbowl"

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The infamous Bob Rubin appeared on CNBC this morning - extolling the "nobody could have seen this crisis coming" meme - and Rick Santelli went after the hypocrisy of these so-called elites and what they did and didn't know. The glaring hypocrisy of claiming that S&P knew that everything they rated was a P.O.S. and yet no-one else could have seen the crisis coming. The crony capitalism of Geithner's proximity to Rubin's Citi during the dark days - especially considering the increasing evidence in book after book - prompts Santelli to suggest we "draw our own conclusions." From saving the GSEs to Maxine Waters ignorance and Barney Frank's slamming of any pessimists, Santelli covers a lot of ground fast but notes, with venom, that none of these 'elites' ever want to be the naysayer (due to the implications) and they will never "take away the punchbowl," and while he proclaims that if S&P goes down then everyone should suffer clawbacks, he reminds us all, "you can't fight City Hall."


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Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Uber Vandal
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The video you are trying to access is no longer available.

Must be epic.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Sweet Pea
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I can watch it??

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment ihedgemyhedges
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Poor Rick.  He keeps preaching the truth, but he doesn't realize that the smart audience left CNBC years ago and now the sheeples who are left just hit mute when he comes on the air.........and wait for another bimbo to come on showing her cleavages.............

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment busted by the b...
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"showing her cleavages"

Wow!  How many does she have?  I need to start watching CNBC again!

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment redpill
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Tri-breasted Total Recall style?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBonus_
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It's quite sad to see how pathetic nerdy ZHers envy the success and power of financial professionals. Financial professionals at top tier investment banks laugh in the faces of feeble ZH computer nerds and weird silverbug preppers. These guys are earning millions of dollars a year - do you really think they could care less about a bunch of losers raving at a computer screen. C'mon guys; just admit that you're jealous of the wealth and success of accomplished financiers. It's ok to be jealous - not everybody can be join the higher echelons of society. Lucrative positions at top tier investment banks are reserved for the best of the best only. 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:49 | Link to Comment ATM
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Yet many of us earn over a million too so perhaps your superiority complex and disdain for we poor flyover rubes is misplaced? 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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we do? wow...really?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment trav777
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Santelli should STFU.

NOBODY (in their profession of economists) COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING!

This is gonna sting, but it's the truth.  There IS NO PLACE in economics for ANY discussion about when growth ENDS.  And that's what happened in 2008.  Global Oil production PEAKED.  This was never contemplated in economics.  Their glib answer was "price" would just "figure it out."  Innovation would happen...hunger would cause a sandwich to manifest.

Rubin grew up in that church; they ALL DID.  They DID NOT believe and STILL DO NOT that the increase in the price of oil won't somehow cause new production to come online.  Global output is still in a state of decline and there are no substitutes coming.  ALL of the GLIB answers economics had for the real world are a pile of crap.

No engineer respects an economist.  No physicist does.  Sure, lots of them got paid to build models to tell the beanheads anything they wanted to hear and they took that money to the bank knowing the models were total garbage.  I've worked in forecasting and the models are whatever you put into them along with the "assumptions" and the latter are what you are TOLD by policy people to assume.

Not a single ONE of these clowns knew or acknowledged or believed or accepted Peak Oil or Peak Anything.  It was impossible.  Oh, if Helium peaks, we'll just "find alternatives." an element that's only produced via alpha decay of  It's effing absurd but Rubin says the truth.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment jcaz
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Wow- you out-douched MDB-

Nice job...

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:47 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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That he thinks these people are economists is what is funny.

They are but sophists posing as economists, thus Trav's critique is correct (they can't see) but for the wrong reason (they know better than to look, lest they be held accountable).

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:54 | Link to Comment trav777
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horsesh!t.  They can't see because their understanding of how things work is farked.

Their malfeasance is banal- it's incompetence.  Sheer incompetence.

It was always easier to conform and not ask why a sandwich would manifest itself due to demand (hunger), but rather just assume it would because that had been the experience.

economics is a fking cargo cult. 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment Thisson
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Yes and no.  These economists are carrying water for the status quo.  There are economists, such as Malthus, who have indeed contemplated a world with finite growth.  They're dismissed as "dismal scientists", just as we've dismissed other "Cassandras" such as Ross Perot and Ron Paul.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 19:17 | Link to Comment RafterManFMJ
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Economist 1. "Print money! Debt Doesn't matter! Buy votes! PARTY!"

Economist 2. "Live within your means. Those that do not work do not eat. Redistibuting wealth is not a valid economic system"

Now, which economist gets the job?  It isn't the fault of the Economists but rather the self serving selection process.  The only ones that gain power/professorships are the ones that enable, defend and promote the ponzi.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment redpill
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The global economy tanked before we could really see the practical impact of peak oil production.  The vast collatoral damage from the ongoing debt bubble, currency war, and self-destructive monetary policy actions of central banks worldwide have "saved" us from seeing the impact of peak oil production for a few more years.  Of course they are destroying a couple centuries of accumulated wealth and structural economic vitality while they are at it, so I think I would have rather had the peak oil problem on its own.  Instead it is going to all explode at the same time at some point in the coming years.  Won't it be fun?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:50 | Link to Comment trav777
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dude...a growth system collapses as soon as it can't grow, especially one based upon math and computers and leverage.

No, they haven't destroyed a couple fkin CENTURIES of anything...idiot, does it look like 1813 outside your gd window?

You cretins need to cut the hyperbolic hysteria and stop trying to blame MALICE for what INCOMPETENCE adequately explains.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment redpill
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You're a moron if you don't think there is malice involved when they deliberately fuck over the general populace to benefit a financial oligarchy.  

Obviously growth systems collapse when they can't grow anymore, where did I claim otherwise?  The point is that peak oil production isn't what has caused the last 5 years of recession, if anything it has postponed the impacts of peak oil production longer than what otherwise would have occurred.

As for what they've destroyed, you can't create a true middle class overnight, although they've done a good job at rapidly destroying it.


Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:25 | Link to Comment Thisson
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I don't understand why you two are arguing over which "effect" pricked the bubble.  It's like arguing over which of two fires burned down a house, when those two fires were started separately but then merged together before getting to the house.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:57 | Link to Comment redpill
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It's important because when the impacts of peak oil production finally do hit us, it's going to be even worse.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Blubaba
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The great Peter Schiff forecasts the economic falldawn in 2006 in such a detail that everybody once sees the video must be curious how its possible to see the crisi coming.

Look at

Listen and more humility to austrian economics please

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment trav777
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fk Schiff; I forecasted it in 2003.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 17:28 | Link to Comment caShOnlY
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In June of 2002 I had just installed a credit card machine in my Fast food take out joint.  I opened only 3 months earlier.   In the next 3 months sales climbed 40%, the brand new cars pulling up were impressive.   I was in one of the poorest towns of the State and my $5.25 pizza baker came in with his new Acura RSX.  

I went home and told everyone I knew that the whole economy is a sham based on credit and it's collapse is inevitable.  I was laughed at.


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Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:35 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Trav, it's nappy time again.  Take a couple months off.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:44 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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cycles and circles TRAV, or something has to give if you will...

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 22:02 | Link to Comment Spigot
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Whatever you want to believe, Trav. IMO you are on the wrong track. But then there is no reason to be concerned either way, as none of it matters. Rubin is a pathological liar. A the least Santelli is sensible.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment ATM
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Some of us on ZH do, yes.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Snoopy the Economist
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Good for you ATM. Can I stop by your cash machine?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:01 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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as angry as I fucking am, MDB always cheers me up with his masterful sarc.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:31 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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WalledStreeters are nothing alone, that is the definition of myrmidons and always whores feasting on your grandma's savings.

Community lies

always seem

like a surprise.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 17:26 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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Fuck You Million Douchebag Blowhard

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 18:35 | Link to Comment stant
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oh yeah rubin.i remember now he was treasurey secretary under clinton.thats why the germans, netherlands and a few others want thier gold back now, almost no tanks left at ft knox. and the depository could use a good preasure washing the last time i drove by for the gold at the ny fed . well there was 911

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:41 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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MDB if your not short duration, you are the loser here. At least the bugs of Silver and Gold are not long duration.


Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:41 | Link to Comment HowardBeale
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One well endowed bovine = several 2-breasted media whores like Bartiromo--and it would put a lock on their hillbilly audience.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment redpill
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Rick knows that he's been regulated to a limited niche role on that network.  He blusters a lot, but if he was really as passionate about these issues as he claims to be, it's odd that he then never advocates actions that would make a difference.  Why doesn't he suggest people take their money out of these Wall Street shops run by crooks?  Why doesn't he say equities are a sham and people shouldn't try to trade them?  Why doesn't he tell people to stick to hard commodities that you can realistically take delivery of?

Either he hasn't followed his own thought process to its logical conclusion or he just is playing his role as the squeaky wheel in a system that he doesn't really want to change, because afterall it is that system that has made him successful.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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absolutely. "the bond ghouls." they should be loving this Uncle Gorilla paper balderdash. of course "it is not helping Illinois" (let alone the City of Chicago) ONE i think "from whence his frustration comes" is indeed "well placed." there is much to be said for Bill Gross' "Cult of Equity" comment. And of course many will indeed discern "designs" (not mis-placed) so that "the employers" are forever and always placated. but if the system is truly "rigged" it still doesn't change the fact that "you have to do your job and do it well." the idea that markets only move in one direction is a fool's game...and there is no greater fool than the one who thinks "the Game is rigged in my favor."

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment trav777
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Santelli plays a role...that's what everyone on TV is, a persona.  This is the Rick Santelli persona, like Colbert has a persona too that is different from the real Steve.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment booboo
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No, Colbert fills the void that Pee Wee Herman left for the same generation.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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***Why doesn't he suggest people take their money out of these Wall Street shops run by crooks?***

That's because he probably has a mortgage and kids in college and he needs to keep his job.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment tango
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It's simple - he still thinks that investing in America is a plus and not a negative.  I find that most who attack equities 1) don't do their due diligence, 2) use only one source - Cramer, CNBC, ZH, Moneyline, etc  3) buy at a peak, 4) invest only the up side or 5)  don't have a financial manager to apply the  necessary tough love.  Rick may still think (doubtful) that the system can be saved but more and more it's like he's going through the motions - one last hurrah.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment Derezzed
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Fri, 02/08/2013 - 00:16 | Link to Comment jerry_theking_lawler
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on cnbs, i only watch for one bimbo.....that would be MCC.....that dark headed vixen with her expertly sculpted (by an actual MD, i'm sure) lips/nose/tits/hips/etc catches my attention every time. bet she's had more dongs in her than a chinese phonebook has in it.....

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment CPL
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Check his youtube channel or one of the hundreds of guys that record and post this stuff on youtube.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:00 | Link to Comment SMG
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Looks like the video went down the memory hole, which in the book 1984 led to the furnace.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Boston
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Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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You can see that little fuckwad Obama ball licker Melissa Lee can't stand Rick

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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No question. Her inner Kim Jong-il (Oh...I didn't see you there...herrrro) is trying to break free and is showing a little bit in her eyes.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment meltdown
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i am trying to load it on cnbc, all i get is the lack of progress circle.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment redpill
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Don't worry, even if it comes on it will still be a lack of progress.  It's CNBS afterall.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment pupton
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"You can't fight City Hall"...but you can burn it to the ground.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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one of my favorite quotes...EVER. Isn't it ironic "they have their man in the White House" though? I'm sorry...."what was the story-line this whole Obama thing was supposed to be about"? Where did it all...go wrong?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:52 | Link to Comment stormsailor
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+1000,  i'll bring the marshmallows

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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Saw the video twice at this site since your note. Good that I like to ignore naysayers when the risk is so low.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Theta_Burn
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Santelli has come along way, from blaming all those dead beat homeowners for causing this debacle. amazing what a paycheck and an audience will do to one's conscience..

Santelli slowly redeeming himself from douch-bag status.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment hannah
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technically the 'dead beat homeowners' did cause the crash. the pigmen offered bullshit loans. the consumer didnt have to take the bait...but they did. they knew they couldnt pay...but they did it anyway. so who is really at fault...? santelli just made a statement that we are responsible for our own actions and the sheeple screwed themselves as much as 'being taken advantage of'....

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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phuck you Angelo Mozillo. CNBC STILL hasn't demanded some answers. What a bunch of cow turds. "throw some more shit on the wall and see what sticks" network. NOT serious people...pathetic actually (when not being outright criminals of course...and they are that as well...and should apologize to the American people for being "nothing more than rank and file terrorists" actually.) But hey..."the show must go on"...even if it is nothing more than "we profit from watching you die America."

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment Theta_Burn
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If you said "subprime" I'd agree, as the only requirement was that an idiot be able to sign his name.

 Still..banksters offered the bait...knowing full well the borrower couldn't repay, but they did it anyway.

I wouldn't bite off more than i could chew but thats me, not 1 homeowner got bailed out PLUS there homeless.

Wall St.? what was thier penance?

I don't recall ANYBODY on Wall St.  including Dick Santelli complaining about the windfall they all shared due to "dead beat homeowners"

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:38 | Link to Comment stormsailor
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i didn't mind the rising cost of housing,  i knew in 05 when people who had hundreds of unpaid charges with insurance premium finance companies started buying homes and requesting insurance. some of them more than 250k, yet they couldn't qualify for standard insurance.  sold off all my residential.  claw that back, lol.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 17:02 | Link to Comment hannah
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theta_burn...if the dumbshit homebuyers didnt go for the bait...THERE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN A BAILOUT. american middleclass fucked themselves.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:31 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Bollocks.Do some research before posting you moron.

Wall Street made more money on every loan that was toxic.They capitalized the yeild spread

when they sold those mortgage loans.I suppose the borrowers were responsible for selling

those same Notes ten different times as welL ?

What are you ,just stupid or a paid shill ?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Blankenstein
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Wall Street and the banks are very much to blame, but you weren't paying attention if you aren't aware of all the flippers and specuvestors that were out there trying to be the next Donald Trump.  There were also those who thought they could live in houses that were WAY out of their price range.  (Some how it was going to just work out because of asset appreciation?)   They all helped enable the ponzi, by providing enormous amounts of loans for the mbs and cdo packagers and sellers.  

Obviously those who were involved at the banks should be prosecuted.  But there were many other players involved, such as realtors, mortgage brokers, underwriters, and buyers.  If any of them were involved in fraud, they too should be prosecuted.  The penalties and fines should fit the crime, with the banking sydicate having the most - by far.  

Greed, nor stupidity should be rewarded, but it has been through taxpayer bailouts.  Those who are truly penalized are those who chose to be responsible and the taxpayer.  

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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If you wipe the vaseline off your spectacles you'd see that there are at least as many dead beat  homeowners ALWAYS at the ready if the dealer mortgage syndication source of funds wasn't corrupted by their increasing profits from magical thinking. Try leaving your car running near the schoolyard on the other side of the tracks and be surprised that the car disappears. Corzine intentionality rhetoric that put a spanner in the just 4us justice.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Bob Rubin ~ hmmmmmm


I'd go ahead and say something... but LongSoupLine would probably say it much better...

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment DavidPierre
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Fuck Santelli and all of CNBS shills!


Jim Willie ... a much bigger picture!


Friend of gold Jim Sinclair, and executive to a mining firm with interests in Tanzania, put it so well. He captures the theme of this article when he said, "It is the constant drop in the dollar's usage as a contract mechanism internationally. No one sees this but it is the Hammer of Thor on the head of the dollar." The rejection of the USDollar in global trade will mean the end of the abused privilege in a currency turned toxic. Its rejection is the marquee event in the financial world for 2013, following isolation. It is unstoppable and all-encompassing, certain to have geopolitical consequences, as it alters the economic and financial landscape in harsh ways much like a band of violent marauders brandishing machetes alter the neckline of their victims. See the Tonton Macoute in Haiti. The greenback is cornered; it is done!



A sweeping captivating question will dominate in 2013: What happened to the United States? The answer cannot be made simple. As preface, the key to comprehension must bring focus to extreme banker thefts in the multiple $trillions, which began in a virtual theft of the bulk of the national home equity in the mortgage bond fraud.

The problem is far more pervasive, if any degree of depth is to be grasped.

It was the refusal to liquidate the broken sacred banks steeped in criminal activity,

the extreme corrosion to the economy from adopted sanctioned urgently requested hyper monetary inflation,

the burdensome war costs hidden within the mammoth unfixable federal budget deficits,

the compromised Congress whose constituents are lobbyists,

the cancerous growth of the state which is realized in higher taxes,

onerous regulations, an expansive welfare network,

a forced tiresome war and terrorism that conceals a broad confiscation of gold hoards during a global capture of the narcotics trade, upon which the New York banks are hopelessly dependent.

A military element has been prevalent in the breakdown, an extension of the Fascist Business Model into the business sector. It saw impunity of big banks from prosecution, devotion to war, permission of narcotics by the security agencies, the obfuscation of liberty as it vanished, the perversion of patriotism (including honor guards at sporting events), the subjugation of the press, the salute to an aggressive national socialism (often dubbed nazi by the enlightened).

Enter systemic failure from a military standpoint.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:45 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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If I'm going for the throat, I'd prefer a nice kukri to a standard machete...

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment hannah
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give me a parang or at least a karambit....much nastier.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:09 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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The only TRUE test would be to ask the "victims" what they think...

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:10 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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I love Jim Willie and his dark Jim Willie shit.  He's the Edgar Allen Poe of the gold money crew.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment trav777
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willie's been saying that for years...the USD doesn't end in 2013, not even close.

Right as we speak, the other major currencies are trying to dilute themselves against the USD, pushing it upwards.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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unfortunately no. "it doesn't matter if you're're only helping someone else." it would be nice to think the taxpayer wins here...but i'm really struggling with "cutting postal hours to save Wall Street." How phukcing pathetic...Bob "no one saw it coming" Rubin. REALLY? The book was titled THE BIG SHORT you ass muncher. YOUR PHUCKING OUTFIT LED THE CHARGE COCK FACE. Why do you think this site even exists you DOPE. You're talking to the MONIED INTERESTS YOU SCREWED bitch...coming on the air and lying right to their faces just shows how far gone you are...and always were. Somewhere on this planet is a Special Forces goon squad WAITING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR A CHANGE. History is already the judge of course...

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:31 | Link to Comment Thisson
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What a bunch of bullshit.  The world cannot get away from the dollar.  They are stuck with this timebomb until it explodes.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:17 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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ughhh...Bob "fuck the ass of America" Rubin?!?!


Double fuck you Rubin, you fucking Goldman/Citi/Treasury/Harvard piece of fucking Ivy League stinking shit.


Fuck you the most for shutting down Brooksley Born for trying to expose the danger of derivatives.  Fucking eat molten hot tungsten and die you fucking global wealth destroying bank fuck. 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment Vashta Nerada
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If they couldn't have seen the last one coming, I suppose it pre-explains why they can't see the one that is about to happen.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment rqb1
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It wont happen until the broker dealers have sold their positions.  One of the reasons for all this QE is to keep them afloat until they can sell.  The PR team is working overtime to sucker the individual in again. 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I wish ZH could somehow force it's advertisers to sponser the daily PM knockdowns.


Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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Nobody saw the possibility of a crisis???  Rrrrrrriiiiiiiiggggghhhhht.  How about the ones who are planning the serious crisis?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment EmileLargo
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Bob Rubin?? LOL

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Bob "I took $100 million from Citibank and was responsible for nothing that goes on" Rubin?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment natronic
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I love it when your just waiting for santelli to pop a blood vessel.  Atleast him unlike a lot of other people have passion left in him.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:13 | Link to Comment CaptainSpaulding
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Howard Beale was the king of passion

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 21:04 | Link to Comment rhinoblitzing
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I always thought that Glen Beck was as close to Beale as Ihave seen so far - they didn;t shoot him though... If you look at the video from Glen Beck's DC protest - it looked like his shirt was kinda bulky.

Now I wonder if Glen is the pied piper to attract and identify that crowd for TPTB...?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment Unprepared
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Shania Twain saw it coming, circa 2003



Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Zer0head
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LOL you can't make this sht up

Struggling Shania Twain centre to be demolished, turned into actual gold mine!!!  


TIMMINS, Ont. -- A tourist attraction celebrating country-pop singer Shania Twain has officially become a $10-million money pit of taxpayer dollars.

The Shania Twain Centre in this northern Ontario community permanently closes its doors today, barely a dozen years after its grand opening, and will be demolished to become part of an open-pit gold mine.

A sinkhole of taxpayer money, the centre consumed some $10 million in government funds for its construction in 2000-2001, and racked up more than $1 million in operating deficits in the years since.



Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:30 | Link to Comment trav777
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nobody ever asked the taxpayers.

Listen, NOBODY goes to Canada as a freakin tourist anyway...there's not a helluva lot there.  It's fking cold, no beaches, skiing is better in the US. 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Thisson
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Not entirely true.  People go there for bachelor party tourism, and also the skiing on the east coast is better in Canada than in VT/NH.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Sixdeuce062
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anonther one added to the drone's "to do list"


Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Obama will have to drone Rick for criticizing the Maxine and Barney shit show

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment darteaus
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They are punishing S&P for not supporting the "Everything is fine." mantra.

If the plebians lose faith, then the strip mining of Omerika can't continue.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment riley martini
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S&P or someone is now leaking JP Morgan emails with proof they were committing mortgage fraud .

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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The banks are at war with each other right now.

Very under the radar.

There is absolutely zero trust between banks, and i mean more so from the little local banks to the big banks.

That's why they hold all large deposits, > 10$ lol!!!


Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment horseman
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And Henry Blodgett on yahoo finance is already got an article out trying to discredit the emails.  They work fast.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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did everyone buy that dip?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Whiteshadowmovement
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"you betcha!"

-collective audience

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment kevinearick
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You can’t fight city hall…

Why would you want to; it f-s itself every time.

While it’s quite convenient for the opposing peer pressure groups to ignore demographics, on their way to tyranny, borrowing and giving money away from the top down, to be paid in the future by the bottom up, the reality is that empire financing is predicated upon demographic acceleration, which is why each group resting control simply kicks the can down the road as long as possible, regardless.

From the perspective of an individual laborer, it’s just gravity. Peer pressure results in delay to consensus, hoping some external force, an Act of God, saves the Titanic, as the participants fall further and further behind, and cannibalize themselves, with their own technology. It’s a system, an extremely stupid system, which depends upon dumbing humans down to the point where they compete with computers, to be stupid, playing on their “smart” phones, pretending their job doesn’t suck and they aren’t freaked out of their minds.

Of the many things you can do with gravity, what would you like to do?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment JR
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Twenty-six years with Goldman Sachs and current co-chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). This is Bob Rubin. And now his protégé, Timothy Geithner, former president of the all-powerful NY Federal Reserve Bank and former U.S. Secretary of the U.S. Treasury (as well as Rubin), moves on to the CFR.

It is the NY Fed that is the core, the father, the nucleus, of financial control of the US economy. And now its operatives are attempting to take financial control of the world – the founding goal of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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market creeping back-POMO day today.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Watts_D_Matter
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I call Barney's Frank a cocksucker...but that dick would take it as a compliment!

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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You can always start draining the bowl, by putting holes in it with lead..

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Michelle
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With the punchbowl flowing freely and banks drunk with risk-free returns via the Fed, what's the point of an economic recovery???

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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No doubt. That would only invite competition, killing the "Glorious Recovery" in utero.

I kept hoping he would kick the table out from under the punchbowl to complete the metaphor. But that would surpass his "Rant heard 'round the world" in popularity, and well, doesn't serve the elite like it did.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment katwoman
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I thought I was the only one who could see every time Rick hands back to that cow Melissa Lee she is spitting venom.  She only looks the ass she is.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment IamtheREALmario
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Thinking they may have already passed the Weimar moment when the genie can no longer be stuffed back in the bottle. Too much depends on the lie.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:52 | Link to Comment El Hosel
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It looks like the punch bowl stays... They did take a way the video!

"message has been sent to customer care team in the event there has been an error", yeah error was letting it out to ZH.

    "Customer care Team", only one customer they care about.


Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Grand Supercycle
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DOW monthly chart as of February 7, 2013 shows the impending Wile E. Coyote drop.

It doesn't take a genius to realise this chart will end in serious tears.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:13 | Link to Comment yogibear
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LOL, market going back up. Joe Grandville is eating crow predicting a market downturn.

Your wasting your time.

Bernanke and the Fed will follow Zimbabwe's stock market 50,000.

Bernanke, Dudley, Evans and Yellen would rather crash the US dollar and blow up the government than let the 1% loose the game.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:57 | Link to Comment jomama
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if i could have given you half an upvote, i would've.


it's you're and lose. not 'your' and 'loose'.  though, you very well might be.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Wait, is there suddenly no more paint for the tape?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment world_debt_slave
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The elites don't like anyone pissing in thier punchbowl.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Still no answer of why the DOJ is just going after S&P.

Why not Moody's and Fitch?

After all Moody's and Fitch did the sane thing.

It wouldn't be the useless Eric the Place Holder punishing S&P for downgrading the US credit rating last time?




Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Bear
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You can't fight City Hall (Tammany Hall ... NY Banks) ... Whatever goes around comes around

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 19:22 | Link to Comment Blankenstein
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Just look at who Moody's largest stock holder is .....  bailout beneficiary and bama buddy Buffett.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:39 | Link to Comment lynnybee
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see how easily Robert Rubin lies.   he's a grifter, a true scam artist.    that's my opinion after much research & reading & i'm sticking to it.  

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 15:59 | Link to Comment imapopulistnow
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"they will never "take away the punchbowl"

It's not a punchbowl, it's an IV - major difference Mr. Santelli.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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CNBC has removed Santelli's video. It looks like old Rick has stepped on the wrong toes. Criticizing Ruben even obliquely is beyond the boundaries set by CNBC: never tell the sheeple the truth about the TBTF banks and their henchmen.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:29 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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Why prosecute a ratings agency when the people who created and sold the shit are walking free?  We're talking co-conspirators, after all.



Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Thisson
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In our society, banks are not legally liable for aiding and abetting fraud!  See Central Bank, N.A. v. First Interstate Bank, N.A., 511 U.S. 164 (1994).

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:47 | Link to Comment tpgaynor
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Bang! Pow!! Zoom to the Moon! Rubin served up a hangin curve with that pitch. Santelli punched that watermellon out of the park. Touched em all as he rounded the bases too!!! 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:54 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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'guilt by association?'

but, i had too??... or what?

as the innocent german soldiers, load up the cattle-cars with the undesirable, for a euthanize'd journey in gold-extraction post mortem 

'one only knows what morrow's will`bring... were it naught for yesteryear's f[L]ailing on a vacillating merry-go-round,... rewarding historys' darwinian continuum, of perpetual cyclic rhyming -- eh?'

rickster the man?! 

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 16:53 | Link to Comment Walt D.
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Nobody saw this coming? Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming.

The issue is not that nobody saw this coming, but nobody WANTED to see this coming.

To claim that S&P acted with criminal intent and that Moody's did not, you would have to show that:

a) S&P rated more securities  than Moody's by being more lenient with their ratings, by making it more profitable for Countrywide and others to use S&P ratings instead of Moody's.

b) The default rate on S&P rated securities was higher than those rated by Moody's

I don't believe that this was tha case.


Thu, 02/07/2013 - 17:07 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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McGraw Hill... a subsidiary of Rothschild LLC-- or was, up until a year ago?!



Thu, 02/07/2013 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Walt D.
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Here is an article, written in 2008, that shows what S&P and Moody's were doing.

Selective prosecution by the DOJ?

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 18:28 | Link to Comment Lord Of Finance
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I love that man. I wanna see Rick totaly spaz out and just start swinging his fists the next time he confronts one of this decieptful keynesian clowns. Get Rick off the floor for a moment and bring him up to the studio to confront one of these Keyenesian crumbs and start swinging fists to face. Better yet. Send one of these socialist bumbs down into the pit with Rick. Let him tear them up!!






Lets "arrange" a "discussion" with Peter Schiff and Paul Krugman. I want the "discussion" down in the pit!

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 19:19 | Link to Comment neutrinoman
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What an epic rant! Yep.

Some of us figured out the Citigroup angle a few years ago. Kudos to Sheila Bair for saying it publicly. She mentioned Geithner and Rubin (and others) by name in her book.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 20:44 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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MDB is long duration and is a loser...


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