Guest Post: Is The NDAA Lawsuit Headed To The Supreme Court?

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Via Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The NDAA lawsuit is one of the key topics we have written about over the past year or so.  For those of you that aren’t up to speed, one of the most popular posts we ever wrote was NDAA: The Most Important Lawsuit in American History that No One is Talking About.  Basically, Section 1021 of the NDAA allows for the indefinite detention of American citizens without charges or a trial.  Journalist Chris Hedges and several others sued Obama on the grounds of it being unconstitutional.  Judge Katherine Forrest agreed and issued an injunction on it.  This was immediately appealed by the Obama Administration to a higher court, which promptly issued a temporary stay on the injunction.

Yesterday, oral arguments began in front of this aforementioned higher court; the 2nd Circuit.  As Chris Hedges states in the interview below, if they win the case then it will likely be brought in front of the Supreme Court within weeks.  On the other hand, if the Obama Administration wins and the Supreme Court refuses to hear the appeal, Hedges states: “at that point we’ve just become a military dictatorship.”

To get a full update on the progress of the NDAA lawsuit make sure to watch this video.

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Fri, 02/08/2013 - 21:26 | 3227829 hedgeless_horseman
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“at that point we’ve just become a military dictatorship.”

And just when being a fascist corporatocracy has gotten us so far.  What must happen for us to be a Constitutional Republic again?

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 21:29 | 3227851 ACP
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The answer to your question is:

Gallows, many, many gallows. And a bunch of shooting too.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 21:33 | 3227859 LetThemEatRand
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All we need is scissors.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 21:39 | 3227883 brockhardman
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If anyone enters your home illegally, you have the right (and the duty) to empty your magazine, reload, rinse and repeat.  They will get the point eventually when they run out of people who decide to "do what they are told".

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 01:54 | 3228268 markmotive
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You are being watched right now!

Yes. Right now... you read this...

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 03:10 | 3228308 macholatte
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The NDAA is so grotesquely unconstitutional that ANY court should vote it down. If the Supremes get to it, the vote should be 9-0 against it. But that won't happen, and the sheeple will continue to graze.  It's sad. Very sad.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 04:12 | 3228331 James_Cole
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Funny, just yesterday someone on here was making the statement "where have all the Liberals who protested Bush disappeared to?" and I pointed out how theyre now protesting Obama - case in point, go Hedges!

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 08:08 | 3228416 GetZeeGold
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We've met the enemy......and they are us.


When unlimited power has the ability to direct a force that couldn't get a job under normal circumstances.....really bad things start to happen.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 12:41 | 3228708 prodigious_idea
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Thumbs UP if you've written/will write your Congressman on this issue

Thumbs down if not

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 15:48 | 3229064 xtop23
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Representation is for those with the means to buy it. Plebs need not apply.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 23:56 | 3229835 12ToothAssassin
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I dont want to volunteer for *that* list

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 21:57 | 3227920 Whoa Dammit
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The cops are entering homes without a warrant in Big Bear Lake California.

LA Times Slide Show- Take a look at #19, #20 & #25.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 22:06 | 3227947 fonzannoon
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notice they cut off the comments section of those articles.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 22:35 | 3228008 Whoa Dammit
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Yep. Comments are running wild on CNN though. Over 15,000 on today's Dorner story. It doen't look like many are very supportive of the LAPD.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 22:54 | 3228055 Cathartes Aura
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lol, there's a first!


Sat, 02/09/2013 - 09:40 | 3228432 GetZeeGold
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The cops are entering homes without a warrant in Big Bear Lake California.


Can't they just write one up on the fly like everyone else?

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 14:19 | 3228843 Bob
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Nice to see people daring to express their true feelings!  Sheeple know more than they let on as they go about life keeping their heads down. 

I would guess LAPD Hunting Season t-shirts are selling somewhere. 

Now would be a good time for folks to start extending an appropriate greeting to these sick bastards:

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 00:34 | 3228208 Buckaroo Banzai
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From the CNN story: "Guns found in the truck were also burned, but authorities believe Dorner may have as many as 30 guns with him, the source said."

30 guns?!??! Are you fucking kidding me? How stupid are these fucking morons at CNN? Why the fuck would anyone on the run be dragging 30 guns around?


Sat, 02/09/2013 - 09:45 | 3228500 Moe Howard
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They are very tiny, tiny guns.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 11:09 | 3228603 nmewn
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Sat, 02/09/2013 - 13:41 | 3228803 SubjectivObject
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Noisy Cricket

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 10:19 | 3228557 tsx500
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hey !    Please do not insult diaperless, shit-smeared imbeciles like that !    <sarc>

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 00:51 | 3229940 sun tzu
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Same thoughts here. It might be smarter to carry one handgun and one rifle with lots of ammo instead of 30 guns. He only has two hands.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 07:52 | 3228408 unrulian
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OK why in 20,21,23,24 are they carrying mini14's? and dressed like Curt Cobain? standard issue? never heard of that gun used by LEO

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 12:42 | 3228710 praxis
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Why do they have to mock Curt by dressing like him? 

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 12:42 | 3228711 praxis
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Why do they have to mock Curt by dressing like him? 

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 09:36 | 3228494 LongSoupLine
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"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke


"The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs, is to be ruled by evil men" - Plato


"Fuck you Obama you Constitution burning, freedom fucking, Bernanke ball sucking fucking piece of Chicago crooked fucking hot stinking dog shit." - LongSoupLine

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 10:03 | 3228522 Angus McHugepenis
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"To do is to be" - Plato

"To be is to do" - Socrates

"Doobee Doobee Doo" - Sinatra

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 10:13 | 3228542 GetZeeGold
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What in the wide wide world of sports is a going on here - Slim Pickens


Mon, 02/11/2013 - 07:13 | 3232510 Colonel Klink
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"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

That can be shortened to "evil prevails".

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 00:32 | 3228206 salvadordaly
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What are the LEO's going to do when they pass an "ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN"? That's all that you see them carrying. Oh wait, thats right, not their "ASSAULT WEAPONS", just "OURS", forgot about the memo.

 Bonzai 7 go to work with scissors in their hands!

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 06:24 | 3228376 ebworthen
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Can't find a long rifle ANYWHERE.

Ruger mini-14, AR-15, AK-47 - nothin'!

All sold out!  Retail stores, online, everywhere.

The dumbshits in the MSM say it's because people are buying them "in fear of an assault weapon ban".  No you dumbfucks, it's called "in fear of our own government!".

And, that is what a semi-automatic handgun and rifle are for, putting down tyrannical governments!  That is what the Second Amendment is all about!  You know, it comes right after the First Amendment!  Not a coincidence!

It's not about hunting animals, it's about hunting crooked, corrupt, treasonous, Constitution burning tyrants!

Get it!?!?!?

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 07:58 | 3228411 AnAnonymous
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It is all for consumption.

'Americans' usually select solutions that bring more consumption.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 08:27 | 3228437 GetZeeGold
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It's Black Friday everyday in the sporting arms industry now.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 09:43 | 3228497 GMadScientist
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I'm sorry, we can't understand you with that mask on to protect you from the orange haze of non-consumption.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 10:00 | 3228519 Angus McHugepenis
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I couldn't read your comment. Too much smog rolling in from the mainland.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 12:26 | 3230531 Imminent Crucible
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By golly, Al-Anon gets funnier by the day. He's pretending that a country that lives by "It is glorious to get rich by polluting every square centimeter of air, land and water you can find" is not all about consumption.

Yo, Al-Anon; I counsel you to remember Liu Shaoqi, whose Little Yellow Book I read in high school. It didn't end well for him either. I suspect the long, long arm of Beijing is reaching out right now to pinch your little testicles off.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 07:14 | 3232512 Colonel Klink
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Eat a bag of dicks!

-signed everyone else on ZH

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 08:09 | 3228423 Winston Churchill
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There are other means.

Chemistry is simple.Everything is available, and Nobel's recipes are easy to duplicate.

Amazing what you can do with just nitic and sulphuric acid,glycerin,cotton wool, and gellatin.

40 awg wire , and shotgun primer complete the dish,with a side salad of shrapnel.

Bon apetite.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 08:14 | 3228426 AnAnonymous
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Nobel's formula was very stable...

Hopefully, 'americans' will fight that battle with their courage alone. As usual.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 08:52 | 3228455 Winston Churchill
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Hard to tell if that was sarc.

After the intial cooling problems in production,the formulas are very stable.

even the base nitro is is ok if handled correctly,once diluted within your into Jellonite,its

just another plastique,and is very stable.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 11:17 | 3228612 New_Meat
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Hard to tell.  Period.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 09:59 | 3228518 Angus McHugepenis
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My tastes wander to the more subtle... gas & styrofoam. My ears hurt when stuff goes BANG.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 09:51 | 3228502 Moe Howard
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Colt LE 223 Carbine Quad Rail Black Matte16BBL 20+1



Yesterday they had a few more models. All gone as far as I can tell, except this model.

Of course, if I was buying I would buy this KRISS Vector CRB 45 ACP 16" BBL Rifle

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 10:47 | 3228570 GetZeeGold
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Price : 2,299.99...........molly geez!


Then tonight that will probably seem cheap.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 15:53 | 3229076 xtop23
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No thanks. Buy 308.... its whats for dinner

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 10:16 | 3228550 chubbar
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Plenty of long guns, ar-15's, etc on

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 16:40 | 3229196 ATM
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buy from a private seller. You'll find something but nothing is cheap.


Sun, 02/10/2013 - 12:33 | 3230557 Imminent Crucible
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I think you're right, ATM. We may be seeing the last chance to arm yourself over the coming weeks. People who waited until the Last Possible Moment can't be choosers. Get what you can get while you can get it, and don't niggle about price. If Obama wins this one, whatever price they're asking will seem like a screaming bargain a year from now. Or sooner.

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