Guest Post: Is The NDAA Lawsuit Headed To The Supreme Court?

Tyler Durden's picture

Via Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The NDAA lawsuit is one of the key topics we have written about over the past year or so.  For those of you that aren’t up to speed, one of the most popular posts we ever wrote was NDAA: The Most Important Lawsuit in American History that No One is Talking About.  Basically, Section 1021 of the NDAA allows for the indefinite detention of American citizens without charges or a trial.  Journalist Chris Hedges and several others sued Obama on the grounds of it being unconstitutional.  Judge Katherine Forrest agreed and issued an injunction on it.  This was immediately appealed by the Obama Administration to a higher court, which promptly issued a temporary stay on the injunction.

Yesterday, oral arguments began in front of this aforementioned higher court; the 2nd Circuit.  As Chris Hedges states in the interview below, if they win the case then it will likely be brought in front of the Supreme Court within weeks.  On the other hand, if the Obama Administration wins and the Supreme Court refuses to hear the appeal, Hedges states: “at that point we’ve just become a military dictatorship.”

To get a full update on the progress of the NDAA lawsuit make sure to watch this video.

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Shell Game's picture

"Who is going to liberate us? That was our job"


But they promised to safe the shit out of us....


Polishing my job resume now.

smiler03's picture

Ooops, I just shot next door's kid.

Angus McHugepenis's picture

You can only have scissors if you have a conceal/carry sewing permit.

CPL's picture

Gangs of 80 year old needle point enthusiasts roaming the streets

Government calls for the Crochet Subversion act of 2015.

Dollies...dollies everywhere!!

Milestones's picture

How does the name "Joan of Ark"ring any bells??            Milestones

Pure Evil's picture



What he should of said:


“at that point its just a matter of time before hellfire missiles are used to nullify any and all Obama critics on US soil.”

ACP's picture

Well then, maybe it's time to start developing countermeasures.

Hellfires are laser or radar guided. It's possible to coat a target with a material that scatters or significantly changes the frequency of a laser or radar reflection, while another target is painted.

Whoops, did I just flagged by the NSA? My bad.

francis_sawyer's picture

Just start wearing a yarmulke...

Go Tribe's picture

Or carry a Koran. The two are interchangable these days.

GetZeeGold's picture



Join the Muslim Brotherhood.....they have amnesty, and some pretty cool fighter jets and tanks.


Thank YOU America!


percolator's picture

Only if the bankers are the ones being hanged and shot.

moregoldplease's picture

Unfortunately that is the plan. It will people like those on this forum that will swinging and falling.


bobthehorse's picture

We're a country by the corporations, of the coporations, and for the corporations.

And, if you don't agree, the powers-that-be will blow your face off.


Monedas's picture

Soooooo .... if Chris Hedges perceives the threat of a military dictatorship .... he must be an ardent supporter of the 2nd Amendment .... and understand it is all about the citizens retaining sufficient military capability to confront a rogue government .... and has nothing to do with hunting, target shooting and home defense .... which were "givens" and never needed a 2nd Amendment ? Huh ?  What say ye .... Chris Hedges .... you must be a charter member of the NRA ?

Angus McHugepenis's picture

Monedas! Excellent point! Nice to see you up and early.

Moe Howard's picture

Chris Hedges "Bush = Moron" "Obama = Constitutional Scholar"

Reality Bush university transcripts and GPA in the public domain Obama univeristy transcripts and GPA state secret.

Chris Hedges may have a few good ideas, but if he can't get beyond the left right thing or Bush did it syndrome, then in the end he is a moron too.

Bangin7GramRocks's picture

He may not be. If you read any of his books you would know that he has been a war correspondent all around the world. He has seen death and brutality that you can only dream of while cleaning your guns in your garage. You should read his works and it may change some of your minds about "just let it all crumble and we will start anew".

Henry Hub's picture

***if Chris Hedges perceives the threat of a military dictatorship***

Actually Chris Hedges is actually trying to do something, through the courts, to stop this country from becoming a military dictatorship, unlike the NRA which isn't doing shit.

Seasmoke's picture

Hedges clearly knows how bad things really are

Spastica Rex's picture

I think he's a far left wing socialist in the Noam Chomsky mold. Can anything he says be taken at face value?

He's really against porno, too.

Piranhanoia's picture

Rex;  Do you dream of being king as your name implies?  Do you think you know what Hedges thinks when his command of the language is beyond your grade level?  Stop flattering yourself. You have already opened your mouth and removed all doubt.

Spastica Rex's picture

I was joking. I thought the porno part gave it away.

Piranhanoia's picture

Didn't catch your joke because I have never seen Hedges as being political at all,  apolitical and into democracy.

My sincere apologies.

Spastica Rex's picture

No apologies necessary.

As you can see, others have a very different perspective. That was my joke. I should have just kept my mouth shut and waited.

NidStyles's picture

You can not be apolitical and support Democracy. It's impossible. Democracy is a Socialist point of view.

GetZeeGold's picture



I only support the Republic......Egypt can have all the Democracy it wants.

Go Tribe's picture

Bravo! As was written and debated many times by the Founders.

nmewn's picture

And I say again...democracy is, two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. A republic is, the well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote ;-)

Spastica Rex's picture

In America, I think "democracy" is 99 sheep and 1 wolf voting for what's for dinner. I don't think the outcome of the vote matters much in regards to what's being served.


Totentänzerlied's picture

When he opens his mouth, populist-socialistic platitudes come out. He is the one who opened his mouth and removed all doubt as to his political allegiance. Seriously, if you are too stupid to notice it, you have no place insulting others for their superior perception. While his command of the language is merely average, his rhetorical skills are, it seems, quite honed.

And really, look at the idiocy of his mindset. He's going to sue the very much non-independent judicial wing of the very government he's accusing of being a bought-and-paid-for totalitarian military dictatorship? It is pure fucking Kabuki theater. Like the Democratic Socialists (which Mr. Hedges, in fact, is) who think they can ally with the Communists, they go on believing it right to the very moment of their execution.

The lesson dupes like him never learn: the state serves its own interests, everything else be damned. You cannot petition a totalitarian military dictatorship from within it's own courts. To do so defies credibility.

PS: His crusade against pornography is no accident, far from it. Communist regimes, with which he is clearly enamored in some aspects - as are all socialists to varying degrees, are notoriously puritanical, they put Protestants to shame. For Christians, it steals energy and love from God, obviously a sin; for Communists, it steals time and energy from the Party, obviously a capitol offense. Their persecution of homosexuals is legendary. But we don't speak ill of communists in polite company, do we?

Angus McHugepenis's picture

"The lesson dupes like him never learn: the state serves its own interests, everything else be damned. You cannot petition a totalitarian military dictatorship from within it's own courts. To do so defies credibility".

Well said, much better than my infuriated brain could conjure up at this time. Here's a few short phrases that may also apply:

- Pissing in the wind.
- Beating a dead horse.
- It's okay, we're the police. Just let us in (talk to us, search your car, etc).
- The check is in the mail.

Spastica Rex's picture

I bet you have similar insights on Noam, too.

Do you like John Ralston Saul? I don't think he's ever accused of being a Leftist. Maybe I'm wrong. It's so hard to keep track of the bad guys without smart guys like you.

Do you think L. Ron Hubbard was better than Ayn Rand? I do.

Moe Howard's picture

Dude, I saw him on youtube. He is the champion of the NEGRO. His life is dedicated to saving the downtrodden. He must be good, right?

He said Bush was stupid, that clears him, right?

IridiumRebel's picture

At least he brought a suit on the matter......WTF is anyone else doing besides bitch online?....oh wait that's us.

pepperspray's picture

Jacobs will support NDAA

Fred Hayek's picture

Glad to see this getting publicized on Zero Hedge. It's disgusting that the mainstream media carefully avoids any mention of it. They deserve to live in the fascism they're helping to bring about.

Oldrepublic's picture

If you asked a random sample of Americans regarding NDAA, I  doubt more than 10% would know what it is

Angus McHugepenis's picture

You'd have better luck asking them what a Twinkie is made of.

GetZeeGold's picture



It's possible to make a Twinkie, but getting one delivered under the current union rules is damn near impossible.


White bread and Twinkies don't mix....which is why you have to use different trucks. Don't believe me? Go look it up.

Angus McHugepenis's picture

But, but... I watched 5 videos on YouStooge that showed Grandmas making homemade Twinkies! Did Grandma LIE to me?

GetZeeGold's picture



You must have been in the good old daze section.

mkhs's picture

with enough cheap gin, every day is a good old daze.

Ignatius's picture

And yet 90% would say the young lady interviewing Chris is HOT.

Disclosure: I'm long 'hotties' in the alternative/new media.

Never One Roach's picture

old, ok, I give up. What's the NDAA?