Is China Mobilizing For A War With Japan?

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We don't know if it merely a coincidence that a story has emerged discussing a Chinese mobilization in response to the ongoing territorial feud with Japan over the Diaoyu/Senkaku islands (and the proximal massive gas field) the very week that China celebrates its new year (and days after news that a Chinese warship was very close to firing on a Japanese destroyer). We don't know how much of the story is based in reality, and how much may be propaganda or furthering someone's agenda. What we do know is that the source of the story: offshore-based, Falun Gong-affiliated NTDTV has historically been a credible source of information that the China communist party desperately tries to censor, such as breaking the news of the SARS epidemic in 2003 some three weeks before China publicly admitted it. Its motto is "to bring truthful and uncensored information into and out of China." If that is indeed the case, and its story of major troop movements and mobilization of various types of military vehicles and artillery into the Fujian and Zhejian provinces, bordering the East China Sea and closest to the Diaoyu islands, is accurate, then hostilities between China and Japan may be about to take a major turn for the worse.

Fujian and Zhejian provinces highlighted below:

The clip that NTDTV released late yesterday covering the news is presented below.

As for the accompanying commentary, we recreate it below in its entirety so nothing is lost in translation (original source).

NTDTV February 8, 2013 News - the continental network transmission, Fujian and Zhejiang troops for several days active. Plus before the news that Chinese warships radar has repeatedly aimed at the Japanese ships and planes, therefore, the media have speculated that China may "prepare for war" Diaoyu Islands .

 

According to friends broke the news: February 3, Nan'an, Fujian Highway 308, artillery units practical exercise for several days.

 

February 3 to 6, Fujian, Xiamen, Zhangzhou, Huzhou, a large troop movements, nearly 100 vehicles of various types of military vehicles, armored vehicles, artillery filled the entire road, endless, Xiamen and even the scene of a traffic jam 10 kilometers.

 

In addition, on February 3 in Shiyan, Hubei, a large number of tanks, wheeled military base from Shiyan room counties is delivered to the coastal areas. Many local residents of the tense situation of some concern.

 

Prior to this allegation, January 15 and 30, the Chinese navy guided missile frigate, twice the fire control radar lock frigates and ship-borne helicopters of the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force, is also considered to enter a combat state.

 

According to mainland media quoted the "People's Daily" front-page article claiming that China will not change in point of view on the issue of the Diaoyu Islands , and have to prepare to win the war.

 

The international media alleged that China has purchased from Russia 239 engine, used in the manufacture of the H-6K. Combat covering the Diaoyu Islands, in this model, the engine can also be used to manufacture transported -20 transport aircraft purchased.

 

If the engine assembled, will greatly enhance China's military power.

 

Integrated these signs and reports, people have come to a startling conclusion: Day might want to go to war.

 

According to military experts, the Sino-Japanese war in the Diaoyu Islands, Fujian and Zhejiang provinces, is the most important logistical base. If the war to expand, at any time, will spread to the provinces of Fujian, Zhejiang.

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Sun, 02/10/2013 - 00:22 | 3229863 cowdiddly
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Note to Chinese Tank drivers when liberating those islands. Dont hit the turning brakes or your ass is getting wet.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 00:40 | 3229905 FinalCollapse
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Why would they need heavy tanks to invade tiny islands????? I think these islands belong to China based on the historical record. Why Japanese would invade mainland China in these two provinces???? It does not make sense from the military point of view but something bigger may be brewing.

I hope that USA stays completely out of any mess there. Enough of wars. If others want to kill each other, let them fight their wars.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 00:43 | 3229919 Cheesy Bastard
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China could never win a modern war against a people so acclimated to radiation.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 01:10 | 3229977 Ineverslice
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Lol.

 

full disclosure: I am Japanese (American)...went to a nice Chinese restaurant last nite, and I am Year of the Snake.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 01:41 | 3230014 Cheesy Bastard
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Well then Happy new year, and I apologize in advance for my Connie Chung and Pearl Harbor comments further down the thread...

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 01:48 | 3230033 AssFire
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War does not determine who is right, war determine who is left.

Like farting in elevator, wrong on many levels.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 06:26 | 3230217 Peter Pan
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There will be no war between China and Japan because everyone knows that it can only escalate with unforeseen consequences once it begins.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 09:31 | 3230314 CheapBastard
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"everyone" does not include lunatics or the money behind war. To them, it's very profitable.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 09:45 | 3230332 markmotive
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If it is over resources then yes they will fight Japan.

China is already battling the West in a cold war for Africa's resources:

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/02/07/patrick-henningsen-mali-a-footh...

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 10:57 | 3230406 derek_vineyard
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maybe the chinese want to encapsulate fukajima?  its still a hotspot on this globe.....i wouldn't want to live within 1000 miles of it

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:45 | 3230785 akarc
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Your point?

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 14:45 | 3230884 Alpacanio
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Just like WWII when Japan invaded China? It's day's like these when economy's collapse, politician's look to take people's minds off thier failings and want to become "the great war leaders". Death,death and misery await the World once again. Remember, only the victor gets to write the history books and enslave the people.

If i was Japan, i would announce they have turned nuclear like now.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 09:39 | 3239963 whirling tword ...
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China can do what China wants to do.  All they have to do is pull the ambassador aside and say, "Stay the fuck out of it or we will dump your bonds."

The end.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:53 | 3230814 unrulian
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"Fujian Highway 308,"

308 coincedence? i think not...i heard highway 76251 is very similar

 

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 14:00 | 3230824 11b40
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xin nián kuài lè.

fàng bian pào.    

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 01:14 | 3229983 The Gooch
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.....................................................STILL............................................LOADING.......................................................

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 02:04 | 3230041 ACP
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Fire ONE...ok, fire TWO...ok fire THREE!

What do you mean nothing is working? What? The guy who stole the technology from the US is living in the US now with the money he stole from quality control?

What??? Command says just drink some baijiu and press on? WE ARE FUCKED!!!

...BEIJING...WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!!

What is that Command, say again..? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyzUwdtSous

 

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:53 | 3230795 Jake88
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That's right. They've mutated to have super powers.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 00:50 | 3229939 Terminus C
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They don't need heavy vehicles for tiny islands.  Taiwan on the other hand...

Head fake Japan, conquer Taiwan...

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 02:09 | 3230067 dunce
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I thought Korea until i saw the map. Taiwan seems more likely as you observed still that seems silly too unless Taiwan is building a new weapon system now that obama has clearly abandoned them by giving F-16s to Egypt and refusing to sell them to Taiwan. Stupid economics and stupid foreign policy.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 05:32 | 3230205 Supernova Born
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Taiwan, the disputed islands and some long overdue payback to Japan (if the Japanese insist).

First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the (comfort) women.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:48 | 3230798 akarc
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Were I Tiawan I would something more than F-16's 

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 09:42 | 3230328 neptunium
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One of the many reasons I don't take anything ZH "thinks" in geopolitical terms seriously is this sort of article. 

 

Mobilizing "NEARLY 100 VEHICLES!. 

 

This is the sort of sensationalist story that, were this blog not full of apocalypse-anticipating weirdos would be laughed at. 

 

IF China was mobilizing for war you would not see "Nearly 100 Vehicles of various types" You would see several thousand vehicles - major movements of air-power including transports, fighters, tankers, patrol aircraft, you would see tens-of-thousands of front-line troops and reservists being sent to the region from all over the mainland - you would see a huge build-up of naval assets - landing craft included and most of all you would expect PRC media outlets to start ratcheting up rhetoric to the point that it would be impossible to mistake their intentions. 

 

But don't expect such rudimentary analysis here, that this blog thinks "nearly 100 vehicles" is what to expect when the PRC really means business you need to seriously have a look at the PLA and PLAAF. 

 

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 10:02 | 3230350 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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For islands the size of your backyard 100 vehicles is the equivalent of D-Day.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 11:00 | 3230409 derek_vineyard
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how many of that 100 vehicles are rickshaws?

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 12:57 | 3230652 Matt
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Why create a panic or give a warning by moving all the vehicles at once? Just move 100 per day for 2 or 3 months. There is no rush.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 12:10 | 3230474 giggler123
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Your here, so you must be included in the apocalypse-anticipating weirdos clause?

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 22:11 | 3231935 BudFox2012
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This war would be almost entirely naval/airforce in nature.  The armor might be to control their own people should war actually break out (riots, ect if trade is disrupted).  It is common Chinese practice to pull in troops from other providences to put down local insurrections.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:14 | 3230700 Piranhanoia
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Yep. Those tanks are going to be no help anywhere but Formosa.  But they will never arrive.  How many exocet type missles do you figure a major maritime nation like Japan has?    This is going to make the last attempted Chinese invasion of Japanquo look like a big success.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 01:01 | 3229961 RafterManFMJ
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3 heavy tanks would cover the entire island; just you try to land your own tanks, fire and maneuver!

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 01:23 | 3230001 Karlus
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If you are still using tanks to fight a war, they you are not paying attention...

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 02:39 | 3230103 RafterManFMJ
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Good point, TO THE PRINTING PRESSES!

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 10:30 | 3230385 Middle_Finger_Market
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Currency war > trade wars > real wars? In this insane and egostistical world of greed and corruption real wars are what sperates the men from the boys, the cock and balls from the tiny pin dick. Currency warfare can only go so far before the real wars begin, people and nations become desperate; nations fall or nations conqeur. You just have to ask; how powerful are the supposed 'law makers' and 'servants of justice', 'beholders and granters of civil liberties' because in times of facism, communism and police state esq surroundings people don't get asked what to do; they get told what to do.   

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 02:09 | 3230068 e_goldstein
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Those aren't tanks. They are mobile artillery.

 

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 10:00 | 3230348 francis_sawyer
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Lunch Wagons serving freedom fries...

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:36 | 3230762 A Nanny Moose
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We will bring those Seaguls demockracy. They will like it, and they will beg for more.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:55 | 3230820 unrulian
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and latkes

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 02:50 | 3230112 Ausbroker
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This is not about Japan, its about Iran.
The Chinese are saying by their actions that if you (USA) takes Iran we will take some territory from you while you are busy

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 03:35 | 3230128 Bananamerican
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"Why Japanese would invade mainland China in these two provinces???? It does not make sense from the military point of view but something bigger may be brewing.

I hope that USA stays completely out of any mess there."

Dear FinarCorrapse

I know China has a LOT of people, with a LOT of time to engage in many tasks of the state but could you be a little more subtle?

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 04:50 | 3230188 theprofromdover
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Zackly. Looks like Taiwan to me (unless these are underwater tanks to protect the gas fields

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 07:20 | 3230236 Wile-E-Coyote
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The US will stay out of this one because the other side can shoot back.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 10:26 | 3230380 Bagbalm
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Like the LAPD...

But they might not have a choice either.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 12:24 | 3230514 azzhatter
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if like LAPD usa will fire at malaysia

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 09:40 | 3230324 BandGap
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The tanks are for more than the islands. If other countries jump int this, China will have to react. Viet Nam and China have been adversaries for 40 years. Viet Nam is allowing US warships to use their harbors for refueling and resupply, for instance.  There are many other countries in the region that do not appreciate China's stance as a bully.  China would like them to know who is boss, these tank practices are also muscle flexing for intimidation purposes.

 

There are 25 million more men in China than women. Think about it.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 12:23 | 3230511 dtwn
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Not just men.  But young men.  Of fighting age.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:16 | 3230707 Piranhanoia
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Maybe China is working on burying their excess population at sea?

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:59 | 3230826 akarc
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Who, while in a perpetual state of horny, have no problem signing up for plundering, pillaging and raping.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 13:23 | 3230731 chubbyjjfong
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There are 25 million more men in China than women. Think about it.

The hand-cream and tissue businesses will be booming.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 14:31 | 3230895 ebear
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"Think about it."

Oh I am, sugar.  I am!

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