Guest Post: America Loves Drone Strikes

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Submitted by John Aziz of Azizonomics blog,

This graph shows everything we need to know about the geopolitical reality of Predator Drones (coming soon to the skies of America to hunt down fugitives?).

The American public loves drone strikes:

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The American public does not approve of the extrajudicial killing of American citizens. But for everyone else, it’s open season.

But everyone else — most particularly and significantly, the countries in the Muslim world — largely hates and resents drone strikes.

And it is the Muslim world that produces the radicalised extremists who commit acts like 9/11, 7/7, the Madrid bombings, and the Bali bombings.  With this outpouring of contempt for America’s drone strikes, many analysts are coming to believe that Obama’s drone policy is now effectively a recruitment tool for al-Qaeda, the Taliban and similar groups:

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Indeed, evidence is beginning to coalesce to suggest exactly this. PressTV recently noted:

The expanding drone war in Yemen, which often kills civilians, does in fact cause blowback and help al-Qaeda recruitment – as attested to by numerous Yemen experts, investigative reporting on the ground, polling, testimony from Yemen activists, and the actual fact that recent bungled terrorist attacks aimed at the U.S. have cited such drone attacks as motivating factors.

 

After another September drone strike that killed 13 civilians, a local Yemeni activist told CNN, “I would not be surprised if a hundred tribesmen joined the lines of al-Qaeda as a result of the latest drone mistake. This part of Yemen takes revenge very seriously.”

 

“Our entire village is angry at the government and the Americans,” a Yemeni villager named Mohammed told the Post. “If the Americans are responsible, I would have no choice but to sympathize with al-Qaeda because al-Qaeda is fighting America.”

 

Many in the U.S. intelligence community also believe the drone war is contributing to the al-Qaeda presence in Yemen. Robert Grenier, who headed the CIA’s counter-terrorism center and was previously a CIA station chief in Pakistan, told The Guardian in June that he is “very concerned about the creation of a larger terrorist safe haven in Yemen.”

 

“We have gone a long way down the road of creating a situation where we are creating more enemies than we are removing from the battlefield,” he said regarding drones in Yemen.

Iona Craig reports that civilian casualties from drone strikes “have emboldened al-Qaeda” and cites the reaction to the 2009 U.S. cruise missile attack on the village of al-Majala in Yemen that killed more than 40 civilians (including 21 children):

That one bombing radicalized the entire area,” Abdul Gh ani al-Iryani, a Yemeni political analyst, said. “All the men and boys from those families and tribes will have joined [al-Qaeda] to fight.

And al-Qaeda’s presence and support in Yemen has grown, not shrunk since the start of the targeted killing program:

Meanwhile Yemen Central Security Force commander Brig. Gen. Yahya Saleh, nephew of ousted president Ali Abdullah Saleh, told Abdul-Ahad that al-Qaeda has more followers, money, guns and territory then they did a year and a half ago.

 

All at a time when Yemen is facing a “catastrophic” food crisis, with at least 267,000 children facing life-threatening levels of malnutrition. Hunger has doubled since 2009, and the number of displaced civilians is about 500,000 and rising.

 

As U.S. drones drop bombs on south Yemen villages and AQAP provides displaced civilians with “free electricity, food and water,” tribes in the area are becoming increasingly sympathetic to AQAP.

Let’s be intellectually honest. If a country engages in a military program that carries out strikes that kill hundreds of civilians - many of whom having no connection whatever with terrorism or radicalism - that country is going to become increasingly hated. People in the countries targeted - those who may have lost friends, or family members - are going to plot revenge, and take revenge. That’s just how war works. It infuriates. It radicalises. It instils hatred.

The reality of Obama’s drone program is to create new generations of America-hating radicalised individuals, who may well go on to be the next Osama bin Laden, the next Ayman al-Zawahiri, the next Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The reality for Obama’s drone program is that it is sowing the seeds for the next 9/11 - just as American intervention in the middle east sowed the seeds for the last, as Osama bin Laden readily admitted.

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Tue, 02/12/2013 - 09:12 | 3236225 Ralph Spoilsport
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Spoken like a true JCL guy. Shoulda said COBOL'ed together though.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 09:39 | 3236279 mvsjcl
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Don't get SASsy with me!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 10:04 | 3236349 Ralph Spoilsport
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OK, I'll ABEND the rules this one time.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:04 | 3235680 Desert Irish
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Skynet...

 

Coming to you soon....

 

if you like it or not

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:21 | 3235724 Mr Pink
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Drones will fix the economy

Do the numbers

A drone for every gun owner, tax evader, pot smoker, end the feder, truther, birther.....

Think of the jobs that will create. Not to mention the operators, technicans and post strike cleanup

Unless of course they outsource

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 02:09 | 3235934 tickhound
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I pledge allegiance to the DIA and the RoboCops of America

and as for the public, on which it scans

Scrutinization, under Skynet, invisible

for security and hospice to all those in the club.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 10:35 | 3236461 jayman21
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This has to be more about controlling the police force and keeping control.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:03 | 3235684 holdbuysell
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When their American children become collateral damage, as has already been the case abroad, in a domestic drone strike, only then will Americans realize the monster they let through the front door.

Sadly, by then, it will be too late.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 01:34 | 3235883 Renfield
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And people wonder how the Nazis came to enjoy the co-operation, and mobilisation, of an entire country...

And why it was that the Resistance had to stay underground...

And why it is that even as recently as 2 years ago, decades after WW2, I heard a (European) whisper "Never trust a German"...

I wonder how many American citizens are prepared to become caricatured as The Oppressor, The Enemy (or The Great Satan?)...

I wonder how many Americans have studied history and of those, how many actively oppose this new legacy they are earning, through their indifference.

At a certain point, people begin to conflate the values of a nation's citizens with those of its government.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:19 | 3238950 Seer
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And what you say speaks loudly as to why it would be suicide to become and ex-pat somewhere.  At some point when shit really comes down it would become open season on Mericans- revenge.

"At a certain point, people begin to conflate the values of a nation's citizens with those of its government."

According to the poll it's a straight up mapping.  Kind of hard to distance yourself from a crowd so large.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 01:42 | 3235900 Totentänzerlied
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Sorry but no. So dying by drone counts but dying in some more conventional way while waging the war on terror does not? Yeah, no, that's a double standard. Americans (and they are not alone) have no problem sending their countryment to die "for our freedoms". And if they die by friendly fire? Oh well, we'll call them martyrs; Forward in the war on terror!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 01:45 | 3235908 Renfield
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"Friendly fire" has to be one of the most Orwellian phrases I have ever heard.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 08:26 | 3236176 duo
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Perhaps Obama should watch that "The Patriot" movie with Mel Gibson.  He was all cool and non-violent until the Redcoats burned down his house and killed his kid.

As the Chinese say, "when setting out on the road to revenge, dig two graves".

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:07 | 3235688 nicoacademia
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and someone will say the US government plotted the next 9/11....so on and so forth.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 02:26 | 3235955 Dr. Sandi
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Yep.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:11 | 3235691 lolmao500
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America is full of idiots. And who cares if the majority approves... doesn't mean it's alright.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 08:17 | 3236160 Ralph Spoilsport
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"The masses are asses."

- Not Karl Rove

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_G._Halpine

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:11 | 3235694 MFLTucson
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This is the same stupid country that elected Obama to the White House! Never in my life whould I vote for that man to hold any public office.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:22 | 3235732 Freddie
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This is Rush and RINO/GOP party bait.  2012 was rigged with massive vote fraud.  2008 probably was too.  Sadly the GOP did not have the guts to speak up because the RINOs rigged it for Romney to beat Santorum.   He stole it in 2012 and probably 2008 as well.

All elections in the uSA are now rigged.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:27 | 3235747 Dr. Engali
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Now rigged? Name a time when they weren't rigged.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:41 | 3235777 Fish Gone Bad
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting what they are going to have for dinner (I think Churchill said that).  Elections are bought by whomever can give away the most stuff to the most people.  ...and of course those who count the votes.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 08:03 | 3236143 Monedas
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"Communism is two North Koreans and a dog .... deciding what's for dinner !" .... Monedas  1929

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:22 | 3238971 Seer
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So, you're a fucking Santorum supporter?

"Stole" the elections, that's a knee-slapper!

You're suck a fucking Party Pussy!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 09:08 | 3236222 mvsjcl
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"Never in my life whould I vote for that man to hold any public office."

Who's to say with any certainty that a majority did?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:11 | 3235695 nothing can go wrogn
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"The public sucks. Fuck hope. How's that for a campaign slogan?" ~George Carlin

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:11 | 3235697 TahoeBilly2012
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NPR, Obama and Hillary sanitized the War on Terror for every knothead Liberal from sea to shining sea. It's been personal up close look at mass brain washing, of my closest friends!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:23 | 3238978 Seer
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And we know that this doesn't happen for the Conservatives, right?

Party Pussies are FUCKING STUPID fuckers- FUCKING PERIOD!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:12 | 3235700 element115
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MQ9FTMFW

They hate us for our freedom. LOL

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:19 | 3235708 Dr. Engali
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There was a time in my youth that I actually thought we were the good guys. This country is just fucking sick, and it gets sicker with each passing day.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:22 | 3235729 holdbuysell
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Doc, I'm quite sure you have lots of company.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:35 | 3235769 Ropingdown
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I'm a bit nonplussed by the trend.  I grew up thinking communism was the enemy.  I was actual sent to fight the spread of communism (china-supported) at age 19.  With real guns.  Next thing I knew, the elites had decided communism was fine as long as it offered it laborers to the West for small cash.  Then, off in happy civilian life, I read about the wonders of "Charly Wilson's War," and it all sounded quiet heroic, with Mujahadin boldly blitzing the Russkies with our ground-to-air missile.  So now the Muj are bad, the commies are fine, and the Hamptons just keep on turning 8,000 sq ft houses into tear-downs.   Through the entire sequence SF, Chicago, Boston, and NYC thrive, getting bailed out (Cont.Illinois, NYC itself, Wall Street, etc.), safe.  What's a person to make of all this?  I'll tell you what: There's a large crowd that never went to any of these wars, never sent its kids to any front lines, financed the wars or profited via state taxes on war production to fund their jobs, and there's a lesson to teach your children.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:40 | 3235780 Dr. Engali
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We were always at war with EastAsia. .

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 01:49 | 3235913 Totentänzerlied
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"Next thing I knew, the elites had decided communism was fine as long as it offered it laborers to the West for small cash."

Sorry to ruin your narrative - and I do appreciate the sentiment - but it is now known that some major American firms such as Ford Motor Company helped with Russian modernization efforts circa the 1930s. Similar things happened with Germany's industrial modernization under the Nazis. Not to mention the role of American industrialists (acting as private individuals) and financiers in global communism and fascism.

The truth shall set you free.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 02:37 | 3235962 Renfield
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Might I recommend "Severance", an excellent, barely-noticed movie that should be seen by all. Satire, NOT comedy, so be prepared.

Orientation Video: "That's reliability. That's Palisade. As I speak, our team of dedicated individuals are touring Eastern Europe, bringing the Palisade message to you. They couldn't be more excited."
Jill: "Richard, why are all the actors in this video white?"
...
Orientation Video: "...Freedom, democracy, justice. With Palisade Defence, we'll win the war on terror."
...
Richard: "It's a public company. Members of both our governments are on the board. They're not going to do anything immoral!"

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:30 | 3239015 Seer
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Speak it loudly!

ALWAYS ask: if such-and-suck is so bad of a system then why should we be afraid of it taking over (over good ones)?  Of course BAD systems cannot!  But, it's the hobgoblin that they keep running across the screen.  I recall a story by some African man who was repeatedly rounded up because he was outspoken critic of his government; the man spend MANY years in prison; when he finally managed to get free he traveled  to the US and was appalled at how people we giving up their freedoms- he said that much of the world looked at the US as the example, and that by all these actions of wars etc that the US was losing its standing; the guy was really sad about it (it was, after all, why he spent so many years in prison- fighting to obtain rights similar to [what was once in] the US).

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 02:25 | 3235954 HardAssets
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Well Dr - it took a helluva lot of us a long time to finally get a clue about what's really been going on with our country. For me, this only took place within the last 5 years - sad to say. This tyranny may be among the most sophisticated in terms of propaganda in history. Talk to most Americans about these subjects and it seems you are met with a blank look of incomprehension or knee jerk anger. The programming runs very deep and starts with that nice meaning teacher lady in grade school.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 05:47 | 3236068 PhilofOz
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I take solace in the likelihood that one day these very same machines will be turned back on that .001% that are responsible for so much war and misery on the planet. It is the one weapon that will be so sophisticated that it will find them all, anytime, anywhere.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 05:57 | 3236073 PhilofOz
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Unfortunately, before that day arrives and there is a tipping point where the masses realize just who is responsible for their suffering, these things will be killing thousands of innocents in countries such as the USA. 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 06:49 | 3236101 Cosimo de Medici
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I know what you mean.  Here I am stuck between Peace Prize winning Dronemasters on the one hand, and a bunch of balding middle aged angry white guys boasting on their domestic firepower and all the ammo they've stacked in preparation for the roving Zombie hordes they cannot wait to start killing.

No place left for a decent, rational man.  That's why I've got 3000 acres of land and I don't want to see either Obama or anyone from Zerohedge.  I don't want to see anybody, much less shoot them.  A pox on both your houses.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:33 | 3239028 Seer
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Yeah, most would think that my thinking is extremist, yet I see the majority (the "two sides") as being MASSIVELY extreme!

Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right...

Create the world you want (work for it).  Start in your own backyard.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:17 | 3235716 Obama4Ever
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Wait, I'm confused... I thought WTC7 was brought down by an act of controlled demolition on 9/11... and so didn't that call into question who was responsible for the whole "attack"? And who knew about it?

And now you get articles like this that on the one hand make a good point (Drone strikes bad!). Can't we have an article that doesn't reiterate falsehoods?

It's like an article that criticizes the status quo, then is pro-democracy. WAIT! Democracy is tyranny by the majority. Democracy == bad. Republic == good!

 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 02:01 | 3235928 Bear
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Democracy == bad. Republic == good!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:19 | 3235721 mpyre
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The Assassin-in-Chief loves the way this video-game killing feeds right into the twitter/twater social media mentality of his main constituency...he kills with one hand and shreds the constitution with the other.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 01:44 | 3235894 Renfield
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"You know the Oval Office always thought I was going to have like real cool phones and stuff,” Obama said last night, “You know, we can’t get our phones to work!  I’m like ‘come on guys, I’m the president of the United States.’  Where’s the fancy buttons and stuff, and the big screen comes up? It doesn’t happen.'"

- Obama, April 2011, on White House technology

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 02:00 | 3235925 Bear
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He wants a digital Choom-mobile?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 02:14 | 3235945 Renfield
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Not so sure about that - I think the official federal position is - STILL - that choom is deserving of a nice long stint in the pokey. Keeps the police & prison unions happy and dangerous stoners from wandering out in traffic, so you know, it's a win-win.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:24 | 3235725 Cognitive Dissonance
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Can we please stop repeating the bullshit meme that 9/11 was perpretrated by radicalized Muslims who hate us for all the bad things the US does overseas.

9/11 was a false flag attack pure and simple.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 00:26 | 3235740 Dr. Engali
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I don't know why John can't get past that meme, maybe he wants to be taken seriously with the cool crowd.

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