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Dorner's Last Stand - Live Webcast

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It appears that the authorities have finally caught up with the infamous LAPD vigilante, who is now engaged in a shoot out with the police in the Big Bear area. Follow his last stand at the following CBS newsfeed live. A separate stream from the inland CHP can be found here.

To those joining in now, here is what you've missed:

A person believed to be the fugitive ex-Los Angeles cop sought in three killings exchanged gunfire with authorities in the San Bernardino Mountains on Tuesday, a law-enforcement official said on condition of anonymity.


The officer requested anonymity because the officer was not authorized to speak publicly about the ongoing investigation.


It's believed Christopher Dorner committed a residential burglary of a cabin where a couple was tied up, the officer said. One of the people was able to get away and make a call.


Authorities responded to the location and gave chase when the burglar fled in a stolen car. Gunfire was exchanged.


The area is in the Big Bear region where a search for Mr. Dorner has been under way since his pickup truck was found there Thursday.


A KCAL-TV reporter in the Angelus Oaks area along Highway 38 reported gunfire in his vicinity. The noise of the gunbattle was broadcast by the station, whose reporter suddenly found himself near the fight. Someone could be heard yelling at the reporter to get out of the area.


Road blocks are up around Big Bear.

From CBS LA:



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Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:37 | 3237859 Bastiat
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L.A. Confidential

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:40 | 3237877 Texas Ginslinger
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Who has the assault weapons, Doornob or the cops...???

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:44 | 3237902 Dr. Engali
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He has a semi- auto assault rifle... they have full-auto personal defense weapons.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:49 | 3237923 francis_sawyer
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I was kinda hopin' he'd make it to Bolivia first...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:50 | 3237927 Dr. Engali
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He is just playing his role Francis. Just playing his role.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:52 | 3237938 negative rates
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Heat sensor bagged um!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:59 | 3237963 Skateboarder
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Freedom as you know it ends today.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:03 | 3237979 camaro68ss
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2 MediVac Choppers Flew in about 20 min ago to Big Bear. 2 Officers have been shot and were Air Lifted out. The eniter montain is closed and resorts are locked down.
It is 1:40pm in Southern California right now

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:14 | 3238018 lemonobrien
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at least he got two more. god speed.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:23 | 3238041 flacon
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"Two deputies shot and wounded in hunt."

God what fuck ups! Were they driving a pick up per chance? Where's the MOAB when you need one? Just NUKE the place already. Perhaps 10 NUKES would do it. Set off the San Andreas fault while you are at it. Gawd what fuck-ups! 


Don't forget, this is a STAGED EVENT! Just like Sandy Hook. 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:25 | 3238060 whotookmyalias
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According to the new anchor lady, he has "Armor piercing weapons".  Yikes, very dangerous.  Big Bear should have erected their gun free zone signs before he got there. 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:35 | 3238115 flacon
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Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:45 | 3238141 SeverinSlade
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A few interesting things:

1. Dorner makes his last stand on today of all days (which has Barry giving his SOTU address tonight).
2. Militarized police were on scene with fully automatic assault rifles within minutes of CBS reporting.
3. CBS has reminded viewers on several occasions that Dorner claimed to have armor piercing bullets (justify the continual militarization of police).
4. Drones are/were being used to hunt Dorner (but if only they had been ARMED drones...We could have prevented this bloodshed!)

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:47 | 3238158 flacon
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"FULLY AUTOMATIC!" Shit man! Those things are dangerous! Who needs fully automatic when one can legally own a muscat?


Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:01 | 3238207 GubbermintWorker
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Do Muscats go after Muskrats?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:03 | 3238219 flacon
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Chuckie Schumer is likely a Muskrat. 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:30 | 3238314 Piranhanoia
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I have a bottle of Muscat?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:39 | 3238322 Yes We Can. But...
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If I had a brother, he'd look like ....

And tonight, on the East Coast, its The State of The Fascism, starry Barry O....

And on the West Coast, its The State of The Fascism, starring newcomer Chris Dorner...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:17 | 3238477 Freewheelin Franklin
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I heard that he got 2 AA-12s from a Professional Russian.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:53 | 3238181 derek_vineyard
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OBama should be there to talk 'sorta-black man to black man' with Dorner.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:32 | 3238326 whotookmyalias
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He could explain what he means when he keeps saying "reasonable".  Of course we all know that when he says "reasonable" he means "my idea of reasonable that I'll push down your throat".  But it may cause Dorner to pause for a moment to wonder what he just heard.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:53 | 3238408 jimmytorpedo
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good pun with only one mis-placed apostrophe!

double plus good

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:19 | 3238486 syntaxterror
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Which accent should Barackwards use?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:53 | 3238154 Enslavethechild...
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Cops killing cops.

It's too perfect.

The elite are conditioning cops to be able to shoot anyone that they're told to without question.

The good citizens are being conditioned to believe that good cops actually exist.

They don't.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:16 | 3238260 NemoDeNovo
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WOW who could Junk you for that comment?  Fuckin Statist Sycophants, keep worshiping da Police, sooner or later you'll find out they ain't yer friends asshats.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:37 | 3238353 MillionDollarBogus_
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I junked that idiotic comment.

I junked you as well.

Have a problem with that, sonny..???

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:44 | 3238580 object_orient
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Do second-degree trolls have feelings?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:38 | 3239070 MillionDollarBogus_
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This 2nd degree troll does.

I only come out of the closet to respond to the worst drivel...

Doing what I can to make this a better place.....

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:27 | 3238719 Go Tribe
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2 fewer Statist thugs the Patriots will have to concern themselves with. Fuck the LA police.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:48 | 3238596 Rick64
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They should have sent in Seal Team 6. Too bad there's not enough of them alive. They're a dying breed, literally.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:06 | 3238664 nmewn
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Yep, they cut off government health insurance for the guy who capped Bin Hidin.

There's gratitude for ya.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:39 | 3239602 Rick64
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Unfucking believable. Why would this comment get so many down arrows?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:34 | 3238754 boogerbently
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Man considered bad for killing cops. Cops considered good for burning man alive.

Mothers killing child in utero, OK. Mom killing child in grammar school NOT OK.

You using every "legal" advantage in avoiding taxes, OK. Romney or GE.....

USA giving weapons to our sworn enemies, OK. USA taking weapons from its own citizens....OK?

I'm SO confused.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:33 | 3238751 Milestones
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If Big Bear (familiar with) is a "Crime  Scene" then why and how was all the metal at the Twin Tower" of 9-11 removed and taken out of the country and melted dowm in Korea(?) in less than a month after the event. That was a "Crime Scene"

What we were fed was what came out of the N. end of a So. bound bull.          Milestones

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:25 | 3238062 DeadFred
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I grew up in the area.  Not a goiod place to get yourself cornered. Ain't nowhere for him to go.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:37 | 3238127 Harbanger
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Not too smart.  If he planned ahead he would have worn a bear suit.  Then they would have given him food and shelter.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:49 | 3238166 SilverIsKing
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Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:01 | 3238208 francis_sawyer
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I thought cops WERE bears...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:18 | 3238272 LFMayor
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they even have a bear in the air?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:57 | 3238435 jimmytorpedo
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spotted owl suit would be best

although a unicorn suit would be most ironic

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:01 | 3238441 francis_sawyer
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dem chicken coops were fulla bears... & choppers filled the skies...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:02 | 3238443 Hulk
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+1 for the C.W. McCall reference...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:54 | 3238413 Hobbleknee
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<----- or a Trojan Combat Suit with a compass in the crotch!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:40 | 3238137 55 men
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Funny, I click the video link and the first thing out of the reporters mouth is....usually they let the media in, in these situations but in this case they won't let us in....

Definitely don't want to tape what there about to do.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:46 | 3238155 55 men
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Though this would be a good tactic to get the entire state to one locataion.....

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:51 | 3238172 55 men
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They just reported that 2 officers were life flighted out of there and now one officer just said that the fish and game officers were not injured or hurt at all...WTF

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:03 | 3238218 booboo
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shit their panties, need moar underwear.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:25 | 3238289 Never One Roach
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Will they dump his body in the ocean next to that other outlaw...what's his name....

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:54 | 3238414 AlaricBalth
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In light of Dorner's accusations that there is rampant and unpunished racism in the LAPD, which has certainly stirred up emotions in the minority community, my question would be, who will get credit for the kill? White, Black or Latino cop? Due to the racially sensitive nature of the situation I am sure this issue is of some importance.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:20 | 3238493 nmewn
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I'm thinking they'll time it all out for the end of the Teleprompter's address to His serfs tonight.

Big screen drops down, they can all plead their case on live TV for why their most beloved constituents deserve to claim the kill. Obama will be seen to hear them out, rub his chin a little bit as the assorted representatives grovel, then He will declare a victor!

Which will be...they all shot at the same time, its a collective victory for the aggrieved classes! 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:52 | 3238406 chump666
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Hence "Last Stand"

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 05:36 | 3239746 CompassionateFascist
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yep. They got Bogart there too. 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:11 | 3238244 DirkDiggler11
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Your reference is SPOT ON !!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:01 | 3237964 francis_sawyer
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@Dr. E


Yeah, I know what 'role' you mean... [comment below]... In any case... 'Attica! Attica! Attica!'

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:03 | 3237973 Squid Vicious
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+100 for Dog Day Afternoon quote!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:22 | 3238046 francis_sawyer
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<=== Ponch gets him first

<=== John gets him first


CHP is 'on the job'... InTrade wagering available above

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:12 | 3238250 Jacque Itch
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That's a cool million $ for the couple that got robbed/tied up

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:42 | 3238373 nmewn
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Chief Dan Mathews (Broderick Crawford) would already have him bagged & tagged ;-)

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:54 | 3238412 Kickaha
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Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:58 | 3238438 Hulk
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Reed and Malloy would have shit their pants by now...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:04 | 3238449 francis_sawyer
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Dick Webb woulda had 'em...


This is the city... Los Angeles, California... a city of sun baked people & half baked ideas...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:18 | 3238695 Randall Cabot
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Sledge Hammer woulda got him.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:10 | 3238458 dellievan
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Call in Huggy Bear, with either Starskey or Hutch  . . . . .  problem solved!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:38 | 3238358 Jendrzejczyk
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+10 for "squid vicious".

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:58 | 3237944 ACP
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Hey where's the "It's on Like Donkey Kong" pic?

BTW "vigilante" is incorrect. Vigilantes kill criminals, not the daughters of people who supposedly did wrong.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:13 | 3238254 nmewn
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Now now...lets not confuse the spectators in the coliseum ;-)

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:21 | 3238278 knukles
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Oh you sick little puppy.
Bread and Circuses Forever.
Hunger Games!

Booyah Motherfuckers!


Just ask Mandy Bigtits, she'll be able to expalin it; "Well I was thinking duh..."

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:36 | 3238348 nmewn
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And people say they can't stand football because of "the mesermizing violence" of it all.

Whats this 2x4 doing in my eye ;-)

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:01 | 3238442 jimmytorpedo
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Bread and Circuses?

I'm gluten free and afraid of clowns.

Now what do I do?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:51 | 3237932 Mark Carney
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Could one of these deranged assholes at least take out the right targets? such as : blankfein, Dimon or bernak....seriously if you're going to do it, do it right.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:05 | 3237983 otto skorzeny
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that fucking blankfein was on CNBC today w/ his gay little beard that  he's growing and talking about how the market is set to rip and I wanted to puke

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:45 | 3238806 gofigure
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Blankfein or stand-in double?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:20 | 3238023 Sam Clemons
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The people who are smart enough to realize these are the guys pillaging this country's wealth are the people with too much to lose. 

Although a different context, Tim DeChristopher summarized it well:  The closer we get to that point where it's too late, the less people have to lose by fighting back. The power of the Justice Department is based on its ability to take things away from people.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:54 | 3238184 ElvisDog
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I would add that the power of law enforcement in general is based on the overwhelming majority of people voluntarily following the "rules" of society. When that no longer is the case, anarchy begins. The system is really quite fragile.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:08 | 3238229 booboo
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Absolutely fucking correct, law enforcement purposefully stays clear of the criminal element until they are forced to react, on the other hand they actively hunt down innocent law abiding citizens because they know by their very nature they will comply with their demands....until they don't and THEN it will be on like donkey kong.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:23 | 3238283 nmewn
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And lately anarchy seems a much better path for individuals & groups than what passes for "the law" these days.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:28 | 3239003 neptunium
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I just wish one of you guys would go and visit johannesburg for a bit and see how long your hatred of law-enforcement lasts - no money, no law - talk about fucking elites?

You believe in this fashionable end-of-days collapse scenario, most people here do, what you don't understand is that unless they find more productive things to do your offspring will probably be doing the same in 30 years time. 

Modern society is indeed fragile, but it doesn't take much fucking anarchy to persuade right-thinking people which alternative is better.


Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:59 | 3239463 Sam Clemons
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The only reason things have stayed okay here is standard of living.  Not law enforcement.  We have the world's reserve currency.  The government prints it up to buy goon squads and pay off poor people to keep violence suppressed.  Hierarchy of Needs.  A man's family isn't fed, bad shit happens.


Wed, 02/13/2013 - 07:03 | 3239775 stacking12321
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you use the term "anarchy" in a vulgar, perjorative sense.

its true meaning is merely the absence of the coercive state.

if you truly feel that the absence of laws and of coercive threats will immediately turn you into a raping, murdering, theiving lunatic, then that probably says something about you.


Wed, 02/13/2013 - 04:39 | 3239712 StychoKiller
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Anarchy != Chaos

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:59 | 3238636 thisandthat
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Yeah, I never got the suicide thing - once gotten to that, why not go after someone responsible for your situation, instead - what'd you have to lose?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:44 | 3238799 Poor Grogman
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Australian Farmers have a high rate of suicide.

The problem is they havent got time to read ZH  and therefore most of the poor guys dont realise that most of their financial problems stem from the twin evils of...

1  Unbacked Fiat currency since 1971

2  Fictional reserve banking.

3Growth of government facilitated by 1 and 2.

4 Grinding Inflation and Taxtion facilitated by 1 and 3.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:59 | 3238857 thisandthat
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Can understand most people are just desperate and mislead and don't know what hit them - and are non violent by nature - but for instance, that greek folk that was on the news, who immolated himself on Syntagma square, in front of the parlement, did it for political motives to draw attention to the general situation and try to stir things up, not out of personal desperation as it was noticed then, so what gives, could've gone after some politicians/bankers and be an hero, rather than a martir, and live to tell and see the outcome, fight another battle even.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:43 | 3239092 Poor Grogman
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The unbacking of the currency from gold was a unilateral action.  It would be many years before the results of those actions weakened and then finally destroyed the very lives of some of our best.


How many more honest hard working farmers must be literally ground into dust before the scales fall from the eyes of humanity and they realise the depth of the fraud that has been wraught on them?

Our monetary system is fraudulent pure and simple, and no good will ever come of it...

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:45 | 3239612 thisandthat
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For better or for worst, we live in a capitalist world, so trying to invoke and uphold moral principles is like trying to win at chess by playing with checkers rules - doesn't compute; fat chance in hell. So, either people starts fighting fire with fire, by organizing left and right as corporations (individuals, unions, etc.), becoming service providers (=business partners) rather than employees (=part time slaves), thus leveling the playing field (taxes, benefits, etc.), or they just give up, Gandhi style, so it all collapses from inaction. Anything else is probably just an illusion.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:30 | 3238733 Go Tribe
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No kidding. Where are the Muslim terrorists when you really need them?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:17 | 3238261 Fredo Corleone
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Francis Sawyer --

Truly, the first thought which came to mind when seeing the title of this article was the final scene in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid."

Butch Cassidy: How many are following us ?
Sundance Kid: All of 'em.
Butch Cassidy: All of 'em'? What's the matter with those guys ?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:22 | 3238269 Ignatius
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It's over.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:52 | 3238608 monoloco
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It looks like they decided to just go ahead and BBQ him.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:03 | 3239473 Miffed Microbio...
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This seems eerily like the end of the Branch Davidians in Waco. I wonder how much that fire will hide.


Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:47 | 3239615 Old Poor Richard
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And the Move Commune.  (Note to self: Do not hole up in a combustible fortress.)  This was definitely a case of "Bring him in boys, dead... not alive."  Crispy, even better.


Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:44 | 3239610 ClassicalLib17
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Here, check this out, Francis: 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:52 | 3237937 Piranhanoia
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OJ Simpson, with the glove, at the cabin.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:24 | 3238013 redpill
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Clue: Deranged Negro Edition

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:34 | 3238109 toothpicker
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MK Ultra'd & groomed for the occasion

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:02 | 3237969 Wile-E-Coyote
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Don't really matter he will commit suicide in the woods, four gun shots to the head... sigh

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:12 | 3238006 The They
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*the back of the head...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:22 | 3238051 Dr. Engali
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Several times.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:24 | 3238288 knukles
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Hands tied behind his back, fingers cut off, wrists and elbows broke, out cold.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:31 | 3239024 faustian bargain
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No no, he said he wanted to donate his brain to science. So he's going to cut off his head, toss it out the back window, stab himself in the chest 12 times, tie himself up, and burn down the cabin.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:25 | 3238063 SilverIsKing
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He should provide a live feed from inside his bunker.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:39 | 3238132 RallyRoundTheFamily
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His name was Christopher Dorner

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:59 | 3238204 maskone909
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his name was chritopher dorner

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:49 | 3238400 EscapingProgress
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His name was Christopher Dorner.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 22:01 | 3238868 Buckaroo Banzai
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His name was Christopher Dorner

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:58 | 3238200 Quinvarius
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Doornob IS a cop.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:03 | 3238446 Silver Bug
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Is that Corzine in the window??!

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:03 | 3239570 Rogue Trooper
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WTF? So CA Fish and Game wardens are now armed with 308 AR Platform. Is that in case of a chance encounter with a 'Terrist' AL CIAda 'Grizzly Bear'? I guess this is somewhat ironic... perhaps they need a bigger gun?

Just got on so this may have been commented on.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 17:40 | 3237880 The They
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I urge all of you to read at least part of his manifesto. It does not justify his actions, but it does give one insight into the brutal gang-like nature of big city police departments.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:08 | 3237935 SilverRhino
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I read the full unabridged section.   Have to admit that for the first time I really dont care which ones come out on top.   

But I think they are going to call up a drone or light artillery before it's done. 


EDIT:  I take it back, they're going to call the FBI/ATF and burn the fucking house down.   


Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:17 | 3238029 SilverRhino
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Some more thoughts ... supposedly they are going to bring up an armored vehicle.   If he has a 50BMG with API / AP rounds he'll kill it (and thus provide the feds everything they need to ban them) 

He's in a house which is NOT armored and cops generally aren't carrying heavy 30 caliber rifles like a 30-06 / 300 WM / 300 RUM. Based on the gunfire and some of the noises it sounds like everyone's carrying 223 pipsqueak rounds.  

He's toast.   Sounds like he didn't prepare enough.   


Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:31 | 3238092 MachoMan
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He had years to prepare...  hell, he didn't write the manifesto overnight either...  not sure why he went into a remote area that's easily shut down...  he'll have to move during the day or else all the FLIR on the helos/drones will get him...

My guess is that his preps just suck... 

his operator skills seem to be decent...  he's definitely holding his own against the PD, but 2 idiots with AKs shut down LA not too long ago...  so, who knows.  He doesn't appear to be the most stable person so there's no telling whether he actually followed his preps or not...  I seriously doubt the cops did anything to change any of his plans...  or otherwise divert him.  So either his preps suck or he failed to follow them. 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:36 | 3238106 SilverRhino
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>>My guess is that his preps just suck...

Completely agree.   No explosives, no fougasse/mines, no heavy infantry weapons, no 50BMG employed.   He's fucked.   

Love the video of the nasty black women carrying a crap 223.   Oh and the continual violations of the 4th Amendment, etc.   Cops are acting like a bloody occupying army on that mountain. 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:43 | 3238380 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Lol. Who would down vote this?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:37 | 3238126 Dr. Engali
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Or this is all just a staged event to advance an agenda.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:46 | 3238156 NemoDeNovo
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Kinda Ironic this is going on with SOTU speecj tonigh in all.  Does this help or hurt Barry's speech?


Just sayin

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:15 | 3238257 seek
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If BO mentions this incident in the context of gun control during the speech, you'll know they thought it helps. And that the whole mess becomes very suspect due to timing.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:39 | 3238363 Freddie
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This whole thing is psyops for gun control. Obummer will probably do a shout out to the guy who could be his son or younger brother but he is a fat a*s. 

The only thing worse than Droner in CA is LA PD, LA, Hollywood, California and Obaumm-Amerika.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:10 | 3238236 fonzannoon
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brings back memories. Off by 4 years.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:34 | 3238334 Bad Attitude
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Looks to me like his planning sucked. He may have been a good tactician, but his strategy sucked. If he was half as smart/skilled as he claimed, he would have planned to exit the Big Bear area fast (e.g. using a second vehicle) before law enforcement had a chance to isolate the area. Burning his truck was a good way of focusing the attention of the police, but that should have been a distraction, not to signal that he was nearby.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:35 | 3238345 fonzannoon
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Unless this was planned by someone other than him....

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:44 | 3238795 chump666
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Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:54 | 3238185 SilverRhino
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And now TWENTY fucking miles away they have roadblocks in place and are searching all cars with drawn weapons.   WTF?   Someone takes a shot at some cops and they completely abridge everyone's rights in what is up to a 400 SQ mile area???   


Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:39 | 3238361 e_goldstein
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Bad day to make a choom delivery to the valley.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:55 | 3238624 CH1
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Someone takes a shot at some cops and they completely abridge everyone's rights in what is up to a 400 SQ mile area???  

They have to prove that they're still bad asses.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:27 | 3238303 PrintemDano
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For "the children" of course,  just like Waco....

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:30 | 3238532 Just Ice
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You nailed it with the burn it down...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:31 | 3238534 SilverRhino
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And of course now the cabin is on fire and the cops are going to let it burn.   What a shock.


Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:22 | 3238052 Sam Clemons
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I'm amazed that "small government conservatives" seem to want to defend the huge police departments.

Is a police department's role to protect us?  Or to protect them from us?  Or just clean up the messes?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:34 | 3238110 A. Magnus
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Big police = big government; anyone who hasn't figured that out by now deserves to be called a scumsucking commie pigfucking bastard in a modest effort to describe their level of ignorance and stupitidy...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:36 | 3238116 MachoMan
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By their (our) very nature, small government conservatives have our world view because we have a pot to piss in and don't care for anyone else to piss in it...  enter the necessity of the police department...  to protect our pots.

The police department's job is to protect property rights...  that's it.  The more property you have, the more rights you have to protect...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 20:31 | 3238533 adr
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I'm a small government conservative and I hate the fucking police. If a crazed gunman took out the entire building of psychopaths from the town I grew up in, I would throw a party and buy a $500 bottle of chapagne for the occasion.

Cities need one sheriff and a well armed population of upstanding citizens.

My three year old son wanted to say hello to a police officer in my town, he was walking up to the pig and the asshole told me to grab my kid and get out of his fucking way. I would have beat the living shit out of the asshole but I want my kid to grow up with a father.

If things really do go downhill the first thing m and my neighbors will do is take out the cops. They will be the enemy as much as the roaming gangs of cannibal blacks from the ghetto.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:05 | 3238657 MachoMan
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Obviously anything in excess, especially police power (which we presently have an abundance of), can be harmful.  We can debate the optimal level of police presence, but objectively I think it's somewhere substantially less than our current level.  However, SOME law enforcement is necessary to optimally effectuate property rights.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:36 | 3238757 Go Tribe
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and take their weapons.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:45 | 3238787 overmedicatedun...
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the most important question of the whole episode: how will the broke ass state of california pay for this police action? seems money is no problem. the banks support our police state from dc war making to the fascist police across the fruited plain.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 10:47 | 3240156 MachoMan
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A road or railway to nowhere is my first guess... 

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:33 | 3238102 Taffy Lewis
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At "The They": you are correct.

One quote and the theme of the Manifesto: "The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, it's the police officers."

Sometimes I tune to Rush during my workout mid-day to get a good chuckle, but he is more off-base on this than anything else he has ever talked about. He couldn't be more wrong about this situation.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:55 | 3238190 BeaverFever
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How many people truly read his manifesto? It was written by many people. One minute he is seeks vengeance and the other he praises gun control and Chubacca's new bangs? Get real. The man might not even be in the cabin. He could have been killed a long time ago and this is one big psy ops to gauge our reaction to his murder. Nothing is real anymore.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:16 | 3238266 MoneyPowerWomen
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interesting his spelling is consistently right then consistently wrong in different paragraphs, adds to likelihood he didnt write it/write it all

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:17 | 3238268 MoneyPowerWomen
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interesting his spelling is consistently right then consistently wrong in different paragraphs, adds to likelihood he didnt write it/write it all

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:53 | 3238409 lakecity55
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Skeeter had to have at least 5 guys writing the manifiesta.

*static* Look, Barry, things are gettin' hot.*static*

*static* jus'  a while longer, Bro. It's gotta segue inta my speech! I'm gettin everyone's gunz tonight.*static*

*static* awright. then I'm heading for the escape tunnel*static*

*static* yeh. the airstrike will give u cover. You're gonna enjoy Rio, my man!*static*

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:38 | 3238765 Go Tribe
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Fuck Obama soros bernanke and our Saudi masters.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:04 | 3237981 FL_Conservative
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Did they call in Charlie Sheen?  WINNING!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:05 | 3237989 overbet
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Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:24 | 3238020 redpill
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Nuttin' is ova!  Nuttin'!


Call in Col. Sanders to talk him down!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 18:25 | 3238061 Coldsun
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You sir just pinned the eerily similar situation to the correct movie and made an awesome pun. I nominate you for The Comment of the Day and if you are lucky, the internet hall of fame.

*Golf clap*

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 21:05 | 3238661 Stares straight...
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Last night, dragon lady gave me hand job...

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:39 | 3239384 ManOfBliss
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I love how all the comments on his posts are fake. LOL

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 19:33 | 3238316 Never One Roach
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Watch the's much better then Balloon Boy. The reporters are begging the cops to drag it out as long as piossible, at least until the 10 0'clock news. They need to lift their ratings.


They are calling for back-up...F16s are being flown in...Perhaps Panetta will even show up...who knows...I'll read all about it in The Onion tomorrow.

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