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The (Two) GOP #SOTU Responses

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Well, this is awkward, but in our always fair and balanced way, we present the two sides of the GOP's response to Obama's SOTU - the 'official' Marco Rubio response and Rand Paul's Tea Party Express response, with speech excerpts and streams...

 

Marco Rubio:

 

Rubio's not so greatest moment:

 

A few excerpts from Rubio's speech:

“This opportunity – to make it to the middle class or beyond no matter where you start out in life – it isn’t bestowed on us from Washington. It comes from a vibrant free economy where people can risk their own money to open a business. And when they succeed, they hire more people, who in turn invest or spend the money they make, helping others start a business and create jobs. Presidents in both parties – from John F. Kennedy to Ronald Reagan – have known that our free enterprise economy is the source of our middle class prosperity. But President Obama? He believes it’s the cause of our problems.”

 

“Mr. President, I still live in the same working class neighborhood I grew up in. My neighbors aren’t millionaires. They’re retirees who depend on Social Security and Medicare. They’re workers who have to get up early tomorrow morning and go to work to pay the bills. They’re immigrants, who came here because they were stuck in poverty in countries where the government dominated the economy. The tax increases and the deficit spending you propose will hurt middle class families. It will cost them their raises. It will cost them their benefits. It may even cost some of them their jobs. And it will hurt seniors because it does nothing to save Medicare and Social Security. So Mr. President, I don’t oppose your plans because I want to protect the rich. I oppose your plans because I want to protect my neighbors.

 

Economic growth is the best way to help the middle class. Unfortunately, our economy actually shrank during the last three months of 2012. But if we can get the economy to grow at just 4 percent a year, it would create millions of middle class jobs. And it could reduce our deficits by almost $4 trillion dollars over the next decade. Tax increases can’t do this. Raising taxes won’t create private sector jobs. And there’s no realistic tax increase that could lower our deficits by almost $4 trillion. That’s why I hope the President will abandon his obsession with raising taxes and instead work with us to achieve real growth in our economy.”

 

The real cause of our debt is that our government has been spending 1 trillion dollars more than it takes in every year. That’s why we need a balanced budget amendment. The biggest obstacles to balancing the budget are programs where spending is already locked in. One of these programs, Medicare, is especially important to me. It provided my father the care he needed to battle cancer and ultimately die with dignity. And it pays for the care my mother receives now. I would never support any changes to Medicare that would hurt seniors like my mother. But anyone who is in favor of leaving Medicare exactly the way it is right now, is in favor of bankrupting it.”

 

Despite our differences, I know that both Republicans and Democrats love America. I pray we can come together to solve our problems, because the choices before us could not be more important. If we can get our economy healthy again, our children will be the most prosperous Americans ever. And if we do not, we will forever be known as the generation responsible for America’s decline.”

 

and 5 minutes later...

Rand Paul (via Tea Party Express - no Embed!):

click image for link...

 

Below are a few excerpts anticipated from Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) Tea Party response to the State of the Union Address.

We are the party that embraces hard work and ingenuity, therefore we must be the party that embraces the immigrant who wants to come to America for a better future. We must be the party who sees immigrants as assets, not liabilities. We must be the party that says, ‘If you want to work, if you want to become an American, we welcome you.’”

 

The path we are on is not sustainable, but few in Congress or in this Administration seem to recognize that their actions are endangering the prosperity of this great nation.”

 

Both parties have been guilty of spending too much, of protecting their sacred cows, of backroom deals in which everyone up here wins, but every taxpayer loses. It is time for a new bipartisan consensus. It is time Democrats admit that not every dollar spent on domestic programs is sacred. And it is time Republicans realize that military spending is not immune to waste and fraud.”

 

“Not only should the sequester stand, many pundits say the sequester really needs to be at least $4 trillion to avoid another downgrade of America’s credit rating. Both parties will have to agree to cut, or we will never fix our fiscal mess.”

 

Washington acts in a way that your family never could – they spend money they do not have, they borrow from future generations, and then they blame each other for never fixing the problem.”

 

“If Congress refuses to obey its own rules, if Congress refuses to pass a budget, if Congress refuses to read the bills, then I say: Sweep the place clean. Limit their terms and send them home!”

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Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:33 | 3239360 The Shootist
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Fuck Yeah, Rand Paul! Fuck you, GOP establishment that should hang yourselves after losing to commie Obama in '12!

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:44 | 3239405 saints51
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Don't allow the hype to consume you. He will not say the same as Rubio. He has to appease his followers just like Admiral General Obama.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:04 | 3239475 Stackers
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12 year combined term limits for either house of Congress.

And you can not take a job in anyway related to your previously held public office for another 12 years (lobbiest)

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:42 | 3239609 aka Gil
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How 'bout one and done? Do your tour of duty then go back home to your real life. Fuck that career politician bullshit.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 06:18 | 3239754 IamtheREALmario
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I cannot imagine that there is anyone in the US that believes that any politician is so important that they cannot be replaced after one term.... oh, excuse me, except the politicians themselves and the people who use them, through corrupt means, for personal gain.

The parasites are so well entrenched that it would take a revolution to remove them.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 06:28 | 3239758 GetZeeGold
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Let them serve one term and then face the firing line......we'll see who really wants to serve after that.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 08:51 | 3239872 johnQpublic
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one term then prosecute for the crimes they inevitably commit

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 09:03 | 3239899 booboo
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Best way to remove a tick is to stick a lit match to theis ass.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 09:11 | 3239917 ncdirtdigger
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Well, no, that is not the best way. The best way is to smother them with oil. By lighting a match to their arse, the head typically remains embedded in your skin and cause infection.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 11:47 | 3240324 A Nanny Moose
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If they are so unimportant, why even bother at all? Why the need to appoint people with the power to order us around, while maintaining our faith that their whims will in some way align with what is best for individuals? Why beg them for your freedom by voting?

We could do better by drawing straws. Think of all the resources saved by avoiding the campaign cycle altogether.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:47 | 3239412 DJ Happy Ending
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Damn straight.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:56 | 3239441 Freddie
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Rand Paul is great. Rubio is an open-borders RINO Bush-bot. Rubio is Mel Martinez 2 aka a real POS.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 08:54 | 3239880 Flakmeister
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And you expect people to take you seriously?

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 11:08 | 3240225 tango
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Get serious. You should know how ZH operates.  ALL politicians, businessmen, entertainers, scientists and educators are evil. No one but the Tylers (and maybe Ron Paul) can be believed. Rand Paul was King of the World until he backed Romney.  Suddenly, "I never trusted him"  "He's a traitor."   "I knew it all along"  blah bah.  I've joked to my wife that these ideologues may survive a financial meltdown but who the hell would want to live with someone who hated everyone and everything?  

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:46 | 3239545 H E D G E H O G
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FUCK THEM ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 02:29 | 3239657 20834A
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And to round it all out: Libertarian Party Response

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RhmFXRe5Z68" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 02:52 | 3239667 Deo vindice
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That lady makes way too much sense. Great analysis in less than 10 minutes.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 05:25 | 3239745 smart girl
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So pleased to hear the Libertarian response. The last election is the LAST TIME I will vote for a Repo or Demo Drone.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 08:04 | 3239807 ATM
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The problem with Libertarian is the whackos they run for election. The platform is correct them they put these fucked up candidates.... it is almost like the Dems and Reps are sabotaging them by placing these freaks on the ballot for them....

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 08:12 | 3239813 kridkrid
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The libertarian position is fantastic, post collapse. It would be fantastic pre-collapse if people were willing to accept that the libertarian party would hasten the collapse... and not blame the policies for the collapse. Unfortunately, I don't think that most libertarians understand this. I think most libertarians think that something magical happens when the gov't balances its budget.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 08:53 | 3239876 Flakmeister
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Did it ever occur to you that even if people despise the Matrix that they view the alternatives with even greater distate?

The fact that the TP seems to run only looney tunes candidates is a tell...

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 09:37 | 3239955 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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As much as I like the libertarian ideas the people leave a lot to be desired. It is one thing to have good ideas it is another to put them into action......

 

Too many dreamers not enough doers. And the few that do instead of rallying behind them they snipe at them for every little thing. People ain't perfect neither are the candidates if the fundamental idealogy is in line then you need to start doing and start putting up a unified front or else this is never more than a second rate good intentions but ultimate exercise in futility.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 11:36 | 3240302 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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A lot of libertarians need to come off their high horses just a little bit and start taking a more pragmatic approach. You can't win every battle in a war, sometimes 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Idealism only works in fantasy land, if you want it work in reality you need to be flexible. There has to be a balance between long and short term. Fabian socialists like Obama are masters of this they know how to slowly grind you down through attrition. That is exactly what is going on here.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 15:16 | 3240806 Cathartes Aura
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thanks for that link, she made some great points, and managed to keep a meme going throughout - stop voting for big government.

followed up by going to the lp.org site to see how the actual beliefs and policies looked in writing - again, the only political party that is geniune about using the word "Liberty, Freedom" and smaller government.

I don't vote, but voters should consider putting their vote where their mouths are. . . or just continue blindly voting brand names, and divisive big government rulerships.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 06:23 | 3239755 IamtheREALmario
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Maybe people have not noticed, but the modus operandi of the controlling parasitic elitists is to always make it appear as if there is someone who represents the views of everyone, including the majority. It provides hope and with hope comes control. Hence we had Ron, now Rand Paul and that is why there is always one opposition voice from the Fed.

A cynical person might view Rand Paul as just filling his role as a slave for the elitist parasites.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 08:23 | 3239832 Rick64
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Sorry, which one is the dog, and which one is the pony?

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:35 | 3239367 JLee2027
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Rand Paul lost me when he endorsed Romney. No more Rand Paul for me.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:41 | 3239390 kito
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egggactly jlee--- +1

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:57 | 3239424 Dr. Engali
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Rand lost me on his first interview side by side with his father. It was obvious the nut had fallen far from the tree

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:53 | 3239431 jerry_theking_lawler
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i tend to agree.....but i think he was forced to play the game.....as long as he doesn't change HIS tune, then I'm OK with him.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:17 | 3239501 kito
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thats bullshit, hes not forced to do anything, hes a sellout plain and simple. dont preach anti establishment and then endorse big gubbmint nitwitmitt romney.....................

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:51 | 3239548 redpill
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I was pissed at that as well.  But there's also a difference between Senate and House.  His Dad could afford to be uncompromising because his congressional district is so safe.  In the Senate it's the entire state.  On one hand I think he's too establishment, on the other hand I think he is playing for the war and not the battle.  He doesn't do us any good if he gets voted out for some rubber stamp establishment Repub prick.  Senators get a lot more leeway when they've been in office for a longer period of time, people know them, they are more trusted.  He may be kowtowing to the establishment now to give him more leeway later.  And frankly, I would not be surprised to see a Presidential run out of him.  Don't underestimate the strategy of that family, they will try to push the cause of liberty through whatever avenue is available.  I'd be the first to agree he is not his dad, but compared to the other fuckfaces up there, he'll do for now.

 

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:54 | 3239555 CrimsonAvenger
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He may be playing the long game, going along now to be more influential later. That would be fine if we had much of a later to work with.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:10 | 3239579 redpill
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At the end of the day he's still a politician, you can't really trust him anyway.

 

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 09:11 | 3239916 Charles Nelson ...
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Good points... Rand is like the semi overweight chick that has a nice face & if you could just ge her in the gym 3-4 days a week things might work out.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:42 | 3239595 Lore
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Yah. You want under that roof, you play the game. That's part of what makes these things so deeply glib. For one hour, everybody wears a cheesy grin and pretends not to hate each other's guts. Empty the room, turn out the lights, and the back-biting resumes.

He lost me the moment he raised Unnatural Climate Change.  Agenda 21 is getting lame.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:54 | 3239436 Buckaroo Banzai
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Well, he made a mistake. Guess what, he's human. Rand is still better than just about anyone else in the Senate.

OK, that's a low bar. But still.

Tue, 02/12/2013 - 23:56 | 3239445 john39
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His recent trip to grovel in is-ra-el tells you all you need to know... Just another Christian Zionist posing as a sentient being.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:01 | 3239466 dick cheneys ghost
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Pat Buchanan sums it up nicely.............

 

''In this city, the Israeli lobby is regarded as right up there with the National Rifle Association as a crowd that rewards its friends and punishes its enemies, with this exception: Far more congressmen and senators are willing to stand up to the NRA than to defy AIPAC.''

 

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/05/buchanan-the-gop-obsession/

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 08:59 | 3239889 Lost My Shorts
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Makes you wonder what game Rand is playing.  From a distance, his presidential ambitions look fairly obvious, like he wet his pants and hopes no one will notice.  And you can't blame him.  Barry O. showed the way -- a long "distinguised" career in the Senate does not make you presidential material.  Your stock drops every day you spend in Washington.  So if a senator wants to be president, he has to make the run ASAP.  Perhaps Rand doesn't want to be a long-term back-bencher and gadfly and laughing stock of the DC elites like his father.

Rand must know the Israel lobby will oppose him with all their might (just like Hagel) no matter how much he sucks up to them now.  So you wonder what's the point of all his sucking up now, and walking back his earlier comments on foreign aid etc.  Maybe his ambition has made him a fool.  Or maybe it's a pragmatic attempt to blunt the force of the opposition.  Personally, I think he has blown it already.  If you are opposed by AIPAC, and you appear to stand for nothing, you have no chance.  But ambition makes people blind.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 15:22 | 3240828 Cathartes Aura
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gotta love how y'all make up different backstories for your Paul family candidate, anything and everything but taking their actions at face value, their beliefs as their agenda, their words as their truths.

politicians & voters, big government hand-in-glove, tight fi(s)t.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:46 | 3239546 Bandit und Buster
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READ: Synagogue Rising...tells it all!

www.synagoguerising.com

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:14 | 3239492 sunnydays
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I agree.  He is a traitor and I don't believe anything he says anymore.  Once he turned his back on his father for his own political gain, it showed he was in it for politics not for intergirty.   I don't listen to anything he says anymore.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 02:56 | 3239668 Deo vindice
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Turning his back on his father was pretty low. No one in the world would even know the name of Rand Paul if it weren't for his father - Ron Paul.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 00:55 | 3239558 LongBalls
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+1 JLee. Any man who can not even stay loyal to his father can't be expected to be loyal to a citizen he has never meet. Rand Paul is no different than Benedict Arnold. It's up to the people now as it always has been. It's time for us to realize it.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 01:48 | 3239601 Lore
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An earnest noob yearns to uphold 'principles' and 'values,' but it's a rare person whose ideals aren't subsumed to some extent by peer pressure, culture and other powerful forces in a political environment.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 06:25 | 3239756 IamtheREALmario
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... and if ever given the opportunity, he would cowtow to the queen as Obahblah does. He had to prove his loyalty to be allowed his position as a leader of those unhappy being slaves to parasites.

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 09:12 | 3239919 rwe2late
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 And didn't Rand Paul also vote for the NDAA?

He is a "war on terror" global militarist.

Having accepted the fantasy of  "full-spectrum" global military dominance with endless economic expansion in a global "free market", 

 foreign overseas resources and markets become necessary and "vital US interests" to "protect" both for alleged military and economic "security".

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 12:10 | 3240352 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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No Rand was one of the few that voted against it.

http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2012/s/229

You know who did vote aye, Marco Rubio.

 

You want a clear differentiation between the 2 this vote is as clear cut as it gets.

 

 

Question On the Conference Report H.R. 4310

 Ayes: 81 (Democrat: 44; Republican: 36; Other: 1)

 Nays: 14 (Democrat: 6; Republican: 7; Other: 1)  Abstained: 4 (Democrat: 0; Republican: 4) Required percentage of 'Aye' votes: 1/2 (50%) Percentage of 'aye' votes: 81% Result: Conference Report Agreed to

 

The 14 that voted nay in the Senate

John Barrasso [R, WY]
Mike Crapo [R, ID]
Richard J. Durbin [D, IL]
Michael B. Enzi [R, WY]
Chuck Grassley [R, IA]
Tom Harkin [D, IA]
Patrick J. Leahy [D, VT]
Mike Lee [R, UT]
Jeff Merkley [D, OR]
Rand Paul [R, KY]
James E. Risch [R, ID]
Bernard Sanders [I, VT]
Ron Wyden [D, OR]

 

 

Thu, 02/14/2013 - 17:03 | 3244255 rwe2late
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and yet Rand Paul himself says he voted for it on the grounds his amendment made NDAA acceptable enough for him (i.e. continue the crimes of the global "war on terror" so long as the US government could facetiously deny that rights of US citizens were not being abridged).

http://www.dailypaul.com/265603/rand-paul-explains-ndaa-vote

 

 

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