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Berlusconi: "Bribes Are Necessary - They Are Not Crimes"

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With a week to go until the Italian elections, things are getting a little odd to say the least. The somewhat scandal prone Berlusconi, who self-declared himself leading in the polls just recently, has come out swinging in defense of his fellow business leaders' ethical egressions. The Bunga party banner-man defends bribery, "These are not crimes," he notes, as The FT reports, "bribes are a phenomenon that exists and it’s useless to deny the existence of these necessary situations..." This apparently on the heels of the Finmeccanica CEO's Indian helicopter deal bribes and Monte Paschi's derivative debacle. It would appear his argument lies somewhere betweeen, 'if everyone's doing it - then it's ok', and 'everyone's been doing it forever so why stop now?' One Italian paper, though, disgusted at the state of their nation, describes the entire political and elite establishment of 'guilty inertia' - calling for an end to what Berlusconi appears to be saying is corrupt business-as-usual. And yet we are to trust these technocrats when they say 'crisis over', all is well, recovery is here?

 

Via The FT,

Former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi has defended the need for bribery in winning contracts for Italy’s multinationals, as politicians campaigning in general elections have been forced to respond to a welter of corruption scandals revolving around the nexus of politics and business.

 

“Bribes are a phenomenon that exists and it’s useless to deny the existence of these necessary situations when you are negotiating with third world countries and regimes,” Mr Berlusconi, leader of a centre-right coalition and seeking his fourth stint in office, said on Thursday.

 

Mr Berlusconi defended Giuseppe Orsi, head of the state-controlled Finmeccanica defence group who was arrested on Tuesday and accused of involvement in bribes paid to Indian government officials to secure a helicopter contract. Mr Orsi, appointed chief executive under the last centre-right government in 2011 and replaced on Wednesday, has denied the accusations.

 

“These are not crimes,” said Mr Berlusconi, describing payments as “commissions”. He also defended state-controlled energy group Eni, whose chief executive Paolo Scaroni is under investigation for alleged bribes paid by its Saipem subsidiary to win contracts in Algeria. Mr Scaroni denies the allegations.

 

Corruption scandals are dominating Italy’s election campaign, feeding a longstanding anger among voters at the close links between politics and business, with opinion polls indicating a fragmented and possibly hung parliament after the February 24-25 election.

 

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Rival politicians predictably slammed Mr Berlusconi’s remarks, recalling he is appealing against a tax fraud conviction while painting his People of Liberty (PDL) as a party of sleaze. This week prosecutors accused Roberto Formigoni, outgoing PDL governor of Lombardy, with corruption in awarding regional health sector contracts. Raffaele Fitto, former party governor of Puglia, was sentenced to four years in prison on corruption and abuse of office charges. Both deny the accusations.

 

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Corriere della Sera, a leading daily, slammed the entire political establishment in a front-page commentary, in particular the “guilty inertia” of Mario Monti’s technocrat government for failing to get to grips with the “cancer of derivatives” and for not intervening sooner in the case of Finmeccanica.

 

The riposte of Mr Monti, who is leading a centrist alliance in the elections, is that his government passed an anti-corruption law last year that would have been even tougher had the main parties collaborated.

 

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Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:21 | 3246381 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I guess they got some dirty laundry on Bunga Bunga concerning the bank scandals.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:33 | 3246405 hedgeless_horseman
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Bribery is an act of giving money or gift giving that alters the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined by Black's Law Dictionary as the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or other person in charge of a public or legal duty.

 

The bribe is the gift bestowed to influence the recipient's conduct. It may be any money, good, right in action, property, preferment, privilege, emolument, object of value, advantage, or merely a promise or undertaking to induce or influence the action, vote, or influence of a person in an official or public capacity.[1]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bribery

 

 

Campaign finance in the United States is the financing of electoral campaigns at the federal, state, and local levels. At the federal level, campaign finance law is enacted by Congress and enforced by the Federal Election Commission (FEC), an independent federal agency.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United_States

 

See the difference? 
No? 
Me neither.

 

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws"

 

— Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild 

 

 

"I don't care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating."

 

- Boss Tweed

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:34 | 3246431 AN0NYM0US
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political junkets are not bribes

lobbyist dinners are not bribes

lobbyist vacations are not bribes

offering customers luxury vacations is not a bribe

offering customers golf memberships is not a bribe

offering the services of various farm animals is not a bribe

 

at least in the bizarro world of corpratist Ameica

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:38 | 3246443 Agent P
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That $90,000 in my freezer is not a bribe

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 13:50 | 3246956 King_of_simpletons
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Bribery has to be made Legal. That way it is much more controllable and taxable.

A government bureaucrat's pay structure should be :

base pay + bonus + Pension  + Bribes + medical care for life + regular pay increases even if economy is in shit + Lobby Money + IPO bonanza + E*Trade account for trading on legislation + Campaign  Finance

Whooo hooo.... ! I want your vote.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 13:51 | 3246982 Ident 7777 economy
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A most practical man ...

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 14:14 | 3247071 Carl Spackler
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Ethics Committee Chariman:  "Congressman Jefferson, this Committee recognizes that you were simply trying to prevent the money from spoiling.  This meeting is adjourned."

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:44 | 3246468 ParkAveFlasher
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"Eyhhh, bah fungol!"  - Berlusconi, Italian supermodel

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 15:31 | 3247338 TheGardener
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"that alters the behavior of the recipient"

Hell what edit wars must have been fought on stupidpedia
for that wording.

Get out of jail free pass for all the bad guys that had the "behavior" to start with.

And not quite an endorsement of democracy, where the voting public is lured into participating the scheme with even more bribes to the voters watching from the sidelines.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:42 | 3246456 azzhatter
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Americans call it lobbyists. Same thing

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:57 | 3246507 Ghordius
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Lobbying is considered legal - and lobbying propaganda is considered ethical in many countries, as the "talking your book"

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 14:01 | 3247030 Urban Redneck
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What is a FELONY under the FCPA for US corporations to do with officials of foreign governments in order to pursue busines deals outside the US is entirely LEGAL (and often tax dedudtible) for those same US corporations to do with US government officials in order to pursue business deals inside the US... go figure

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 14:16 | 3247080 Carl Spackler
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Yes, it is called steering the action back toward your pockets.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:45 | 3246467 Shell Game
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What comes around goes around, Bitchez.

 

When they are hung or piked, it won't be a crime either...

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:23 | 3246383 Element
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If he said it, then that's good enough for me.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:23 | 3246386 NoControl
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Italians?????   Indian government?????

Corruption???

 

I'm shocked.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:27 | 3246402 EmileLargo
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Precisely.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:26 | 3246396 Confundido
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They are so punctual: 10:30am and we go to below $1,600/oz....

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:28 | 3246406 ghengis86
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They keep smacking, I keep stacking.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:36 | 3246438 eclectic syncretist
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I always feel really good after buying more silver, like I just did again!

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:07 | 3246552 gaoptimize
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Just closed out my immediately post-Sandy Hook SWHC position and re-bought silver miners (SIL) picking up quite afew shares in the trades.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:42 | 3246454 DaveyJones
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Gold is like lips   a smack is a good thing   

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:27 | 3246398 ekm
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Berlusconi is correct.

 

At least in Europe they call it the way it is, BRIBING.

 

In US they have literally legalized bribing and renamed it as: LOBBYING.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:27 | 3246399 Downtoolong
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his argument lies somewhere betweeen, 'if everyone's doing it - then it's ok', and 'everyone's been doing it forever so why stop now?'

Including, "Shit, I did it so many times myself I lost count."

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:29 | 3246408 Agent P
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This guy has a future in Chicago politics.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:29 | 3246409 falak pema
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if you bunga bunga a minor thats not a crime thats just butter on bread! Especially if there is money crossing those parted legs once breached and embedded. 

As for "strictly business commissions" even Don Corleone would agree with Berlu : we always tell our competition its not bribes that hurt but bullets! They can't match us in either field thats why we are Capo di Capo! We know how to aim our guns both ways!

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:33 | 3246411 Dr. Richard Head
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"young prostitutes are a phenomenon that exists and it’s useless to deny the existence of these necessary situations for the benefit of a good party..."

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:29 | 3246412 Everybodys All ...
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Now that is the unwritten Buffet rule.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:32 | 3246414 israhole
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At least he's honest about it. Now if he would just tell the people about his extramarital adventures with two in the pink and one in the stink, they could trust him entirely.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 15:06 | 3247211 Stuck on Zero
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He wasn't honest about it.  Someone paid him under the table to say it.

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:34 | 3246429 mantrid
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like insider trading in markets, bribes are inseparable from government. if you don't like insider trading - don't trade. if you don't like bribes, limit ya government.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:34 | 3246430 DaveyJones
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"Crimes are necessary"   I was bribed to think this

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:27 | 3246630 TNTARG
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Real World is such a fuck...g shit, isn't it?

Speaking of Brible, Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jee369xh4M

We need a RESET.

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 15:48 | 3247421 TheGardener
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Freudian slip Argentino ? Brible ? Bible bribe bubbelish?

Knew you were catholic.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 10:46 | 3249280 TNTARG
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I was using Anglo Hondo's word some comments above, "Brible"/sarc.

Catholic? Not in a thousand years. I'm agnostic.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:35 | 3246432 Bansters-in-my-...
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WOW...! Just wow....

These inbred fuckers are so delusional. Lying,cheating,deciet and theiving,is part of their nature and they think it is their god given right.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:43 | 3246437 Mercury
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Prego.
Bimbos for politicos are necessary too.

Get the Spumante girls...Daddy's home!

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:38 | 3246439 LongSoupLine
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He's a fucking piece of shit and the fucking poster child for all that's fucking wrong in politics and fucking global finance.

 

but, he's got fucking balls and lays it out there...I'll give the fucking prick that much, and for that he's one fucking level of respect over obama, CONgress or any EU parlliment fucking piece of shit lying fuck.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:47 | 3246470 Tsar Pointless
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+9 F-bombs.

BT fucking W, I fucking agree with your fucking sentiments, too.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:47 | 3246472 ParkAveFlasher
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+1

I'd play bocci with Berlusconi. 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:50 | 3246482 Winston of Oceania
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He is also right as far as in that corruption has been around as long as the political career. The last thing anyone needs is a professional politician, that is why the words of Dr. Carson cut so deep. He is the type of leader that we need.

 http://blog.heritage.org/2013/02/08/dr-ben-carson-speaks-truth-to-power-at-national-prayer-breakfast/

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:54 | 3246499 mama said
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fuck the fucking fucker!

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 16:09 | 3247503 TheGardener
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Couldn`t believe all my moderate liberal Italian friends
would be all in for Berlusconi first time around even though I kind of approved all his billboard messages I saw.

No one will ever understand Italian politics unless
you imagine a populace bombarded by great promises
of democratic or not so democratic equally bad intentions
for thousands of years !

Berlusconi is an entrepreneur after all and fighting inefficient government mafia structures in a country beyond help and his many leftist opponents have only this to stick onto him:

"How could you ever compete in our perfectly crooked system if you were not a crook yourself and we have all the judges
in the right places to prove capitalism is wrong !"

Italians will say fuck you commies and vote , but 60%
berlu could still be diebolded down to 48%

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:40 | 3246449 steve from virginia
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Truly mind-boggling.

 

When it is vital to come off top-dead-center and make policy shifts away from waste and denial, the leadership cadres are retreads ... over and over the same clowns ... as if these 'entertainers' have anything new to offer.

 

More so-called 'conservatives' who are tools of the banks, so-called 'liberals' that are also tools of the banks.

 

The banks must be precious, huh? Ya think?

 

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:19 | 3246600 AnAnonymous
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Liberals are 'americans'.
Conservatives are 'americans'.

All in all, 'americans' are tools to bankers.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:42 | 3246457 ziggy59
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These clown spell Justice, Just Us

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:46 | 3246471 digalert
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Bribes are a phenom? WTF?

Unexplained, uncontrollable, these things (bribes) just happen.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:48 | 3246475 jimijon
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Finally a politician speaks the truth about the "real" world and how it operates. 

Spiffs, lobbying, commission, finder's fees, they all are the same thing. And so what?! I too think that they are not crimes. What greases commerce? You think a billion f'ing laws? The problem here is the illusion of the fantasy vs real world.

The problem lies not in the concept of "bribe" or "lobbying" or "nepotism" or whatever, the real problem lies in the accountability of doing a great job once it is won. I am sure every country, company or individual tried some form of wining and dining. This is all fine to me... however, when it leads to shitty work because everyone now needs to hide the reason of the win... well then this leads to poor quality and then over priced extras.

Let's start being honest about how the world works.

Go Berlusconi!

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:00 | 3246513 Ghordius
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Ehmm.. european politicians telling the truth as they see it is not popular, here

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:22 | 3246615 TNTARG
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So europeans prefer lies?

"The complicity of economic power with the argentinean dictatorship: The Mercedes Benz' case".

http://www.derechos.org/nizkor/arg/doc/benz1.html

Daimler agrees to pay $185m after admitting bribery

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8600241.stm

And so on.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 16:41 | 3247653 TheGardener
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Stop whining TNTARG, I lack the patience to read through that loser shit and others the language skills.

Mercedes Benz or what they called themselves in between takeovers is an aggressive industrial beast seeking it`s equals, might makes right , you know ?

Ever heard of the unbeatable Unimog as in "can`t bug a Unimog" ? Well it came with a 6 cylinder Mercedes engine
that was suddenly no longer for delivery. Takeover price
of the subsequently bankrupt Unimog factory ? Industrial policy Mercedes Benz style, no time for losers: 1 DM !

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 10:37 | 3249270 TNTARG
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Whining? Not at all. Loser shit? I'm no loser. I have a wonderful life. No banker took me a dime, ever.

Just naming things for what they are: do not complain about bribery because it's a system's intrinsic quality.

It's you targeting Bernake or Greenspan i.e.,  just faces of a power whose roots are overseas.

As for the language I apologize. Nevertheless I'd love to see you reading and writing in Spanish, Italian, English, French, Portuguese. Forgive me, please, English isn't my mother-tong language.

Finally, you don't have to read my comments. Just skip them.

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:49 | 3246476 Canucklehead
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How would Chris Dorner react to this lapse in corporate/government ethics?

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:15 | 3246579 DaveyJones
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he'd get all hot, take shots at them, then try to smoke them out before everything collapsed

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 16:45 | 3247665 TheGardener
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Dorner endorsed Hitlary.

One more shot for him in between his eyes with greatings from me myself and I.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:51 | 3246486 Falconsixone
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Would it be illegal for someone to bribe someone to shoot Berlusconi right between the eyes?

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 11:52 | 3246491 swissaustrian
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Denying the illegaity of bribes is a carefully calculated voter bribe by Mr Bunga. He wants to win the elections, so he has to get the support of the corrupt Italian elite. Bribing the bribers is obviously part of that plan.

Get you popcorn ready for the EURplosion after Mr Bungas victory on Feb 24th.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:05 | 3246515 Atomizer
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Speaking of bribes, the entire tax based peasants will begin to unwind the myths of global warming/Climate Change bullshit. The carnival barker invoking carbon taxes will be laughed upon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy71kiWoGPs&list=UUTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ

 

Have a great day! 

Love,

 Atomizer 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:04 | 3246528 Anglo Hondo
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If the Brible says it is ok, then we are just doing God's Work.

Right?!

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:10 | 3246560 Element
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AAAaaaaaaaaAMen!

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:04 | 3246533 Shizzmoney
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Look at how these assholes scramble to answer Sen Warren on why the DOJ/Regulators were so quick to settle with TBTF banks:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/02/14/172045516/watch-sen-eliza...

It's such bullshit.  The economy will NOT get fixed until these motherfuckers are quartered, hanged, and made examples of.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:17 | 3246594 AnAnonymous
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Bribing and being bribed is human nature.

Signed: an American.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 13:24 | 3246866 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Bribery is a Chinese citizenism tradition. It was invented by the Indo European Han people four thousand years ago, early in the Xia Dynasty.

Signed: AnAnonymous

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 14:10 | 3247059 Urban Redneck
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Chinese public officials: the largest global recipient of bribes by multinational's seeking to offshore operations

Chinese SOEs: the largest global payer of bribes by institutions seeking access to natural resources

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:26 | 3246610 EmmittFitzhume
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I bet there is talk over there about bringing back the Guillotine...

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:35 | 3246681 flacorps
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Italians had a meat hook.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:31 | 3246658 thisandthat
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bribes are a phenomenon that exists

Bribes are the lubricant of business - that's how competitors screw each other.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 17:05 | 3247734 TheGardener
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Whenever more than two businessmen come together, you have a recipe for collusion ! Or so some ancient economist said.

Business coexisting while the state has undue leverage:
collusion.

Business openly accepting government contracts with all the strings attached and competitors virtually hanged : collusion. Corporatism getting refined.

Corporate businesses being state sponsored monopolies or
them being given the privilege thereof: Fascism.

Corruption is just sowed in Dukaten in deportees cloth !

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:39 | 3246671 flacorps
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Commissions are fully disclosed payments by someone brokering a transaction and collecting said fee by the consent of all parties to the transaction. Bribes are garnered by someone close to the transaction who has determined that he will secretly act more in his own best interests than in the best interest of his principal (which is typically the people or the shareholders). Berlusconi's moral obtuseness as to the difference means that the Italian people deserve better, not someone who seeks betterment for himself. However, in light of the globalist opponent, it may make sense to echo the Louisiana bumper sticker in opposition to David Duke's candidacy: "Vote for the crook--It's important"

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 14:11 | 3247065 Urban Redneck
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the real world isn't so black and white...

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 17:28 | 3247801 TheGardener
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"Commissions are fully disclosed payments by someone brokering a transaction and collecting said fee by the consent of all parties to the transaction."

I got said bribes legalized through audits on public procurement.

Still have no love for the guys collecting those fees
and their treasonous services, ex- government employees
they were , greedy beyond any of the rackets that made a name.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 12:45 | 3246712 Rusty Diggins
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I see no problem with good ole pirate pragmatism

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 13:33 | 3246901 My Days Are Get...
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After local officials are stripped of the luxury pensions and have to pay for their own healthcare, then you will understand the need to slip a Benji under the counter to get a permit to burn leaves.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 13:42 | 3246941 SmittyinLA
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in politics you can do anything except tell the truth, which is why Buslesconi will not get re-elected and Hagel will get approved. 

The Establishment cannot tolerate a truther or anybody who "tells it like it is", because those people have to be accountable. 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 13:42 | 3246943 q99x2
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If they didn't bribe and blackmail in the U.S. the FEDs would have to shut down D.C.

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 13:48 | 3246969 Shizzmoney
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Before moving to Washington, Barofsky was a little-known federal narcotics prosecutor in New York. The two jobs had more in common than you might think.

He calls it “the bullet or the bribe.”

“I was told by a very senior treasury official that I was going to do real harm to myself and my family because of my harsh tone towards Washington and the Obama Administration, as well as my criticism towards the banks,” Barofsky said. “That was the bullet. Then the bribe came as, well, if I softened my tone, was a little bit more upbeat, then all those things could happen for me, including maybe … a federal appointment of a judgeship, which for a lawyer is a really big deal.”

At the time, he joked that it sounded suspiciously similar to the ultimatums that drug kingpin Pablo Escobar used to make with Colombian police.

The deal, Barofsky said, was “either you’re going to do my bidding and take this giant bag of pesos, or you’re going to get a bullet in your head.”

http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/15/former-u-s-bailout-cop-says-ano...

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 14:16 | 3247082 I am on to you
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What a you know,then  the Nobel peace Obamas killing of innocents aint even murder!

Go,go Berlusconi,the corrupt Tecnocratia,is on your side,if you try realy hard,youll be the Next Papa of Vomiting Scums,and will be burried next to the other Don,in the Vomitcan of ignorat sheeps seeing holyknights:

Wake me,i must be having a nightmare,those Mescalin,s must be Gmoed,damn you Don Juan!

Its not AAAAAAAmen,it,s GGGGGGGmen,all over!

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 15:13 | 3247218 billsykes
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Shocking, bribes by a guy that cheats, uses hookers and fucks underage girls, and is a politician? 

I heart italy. 

 

In the big scheme of things bribing is good- excessive bribing is bad. 

In most countries, a little sugar to get the little things that hold you up like licenses or permits it can take weeks or even months- I like it because it cuts the bullshit out and you know exactly where you stand. I hate it when they do their little lies, and use 'merican reasoning with them- if you don't know what’s really going on, it’s very frustrating. 

 

 

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 15:13 | 3247235 Herkimer Jerkimer
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'How much long can this continue?

 

Is this not a watermark to have crossed, where a former and soon-to-be again, head of a major country, comes out and makes a statement, that once would have be a world shocker, to profess publicly, and do it with such simpering charm, unapologetically, and without shame as to leave those of us, with at least a shread of decency, speachlesss.

 

When is this whole world going to fall in?

 

Truly a moment that will live in ignominy and to be reflected upon in years to come.

•J•
V-V

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 15:16 | 3247258 Carl LaFong
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He should get the award for "The World's Most Honest Politician".

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 15:42 | 3247386 TSA gropee
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Hmmm, on honest political elitist crook. Go figure. What's next, Ronald McDonald admitting that their food is, ahem, Bad for you?

Or is the real news here that the machine is in place and for which all intensive purposes, gives all the elitist crony scumbags a "get out of jail free" card? If so, then it would appear that the last vestiges of accountability has (IMHO) been swept away.

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