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Is This Where The Secret JP Morgan London Gold Vault Is Located?

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In a world defined by "financial innovation", where $1 of hard collateral can spawn over $1000 in repoed and rehypothecated liabilities (and assets), where "shadow banking" is far more important than traditional bank liabilities (and to this date remains completely misunderstood), and where every month the central and commercial banks force create over $100 billion in credit money (which end consumers refuse to absorb and which therefore ends up in the stock market), the concept of a "hard asset" is an increasingly redundant anachronism. Yet while the Federal Reserve has emerged as the bastion of the New Normal's financial innovation front in which the concept of money is backed by absolutely nothing other than the Dollar's increasingly fleeting reserve status, when it comes to the definition of "Old Normal" money - gold - it still is the domain of the first and original central bank: London.

At first blush, most would not associate London with the hard asset mecca of the world: in fact, when it comes to some of the most spectacular hyper-levered "New Normal" cataclysms in recent years: AIG, Lehman, MF Global, JPMorgan's London Whale, all of them originated in London. Yet for the most part these events occurred precisely because of the mindboggling leverage already employed by the London financial system. Recall that the UK has some 600% in financial debt/GDP - an unprecedented amount compared to any other developed world nation. Yet, paradoxically, the fact that there is so much financial leverage implies that there must be an abundance of hard assets at the bottom of the London Exter Pyramid. After all, financial counterparties, especially in this day and age, may be insolvent but they are not idiots, and all will demand at least some paper representation that there is a trace of hard collateral at the bottom of the latest financial Frankenstein CDO, SPV, CLO, CPDO, RMBS or [insert any other modern financial "asset" acronym]. And keep in mind we are talking private sector gold: Gordon Brown's epic blunder of dumping the sovereign UK gold at rock bottom prices hardly needs a mention.

Which is why in order to spawn such a gargantuan amount of financial debt, London, which for centuries was the financial capital of the world and which sequestered the bulk of the world's real, tangible wealth until the ascendancy of the US in the 20th century, London's commercial vaults, are literally full of gold (as much as it may pale in comparison with the total notional amount of liabilities it has created).

After all it is the London Bullion Market Association. Not New York, Zurich or Singapore.

Why is London such an integral part of the gold financial world? We'll let none other than JPMorgan explain:

The characteristics of the London market uniquely support the use of gold as collateral by ensuring:

  • Quality and liquidity: “London Good Delivery” sets the standard for gold quality. Rigorous specifications as to size and purity ensure that each London ood Delivery gold bar meets pre-set standards with little to no variation between one bar and the next. This consistency ensures that counterparties will receive gold of an expected quality (99.5% fine), which allows the metal to be easily transferred between members of the London Bullion Market. Ultimately, this facilitates trading and market liquidity—both desirable attributes for collateral.
  • Flexibility: The London gold market uses both unallocated and allocated gold. In layman’s terms, allocated gold specifically identifies each gold bar with a specific owner. Allocated gold is essentially held in separate accounts; it cannot be pooled with gold from others to satisfy obligations. In contrast, unallocated gold is held in a general pool by the bullion dealer and the customer has a general entitlement to the metal, but not to a specific gold bar. The LMBA states that unallocated gold “is the most convenient, cheapest and most commonly used method of holding the metal.”

    In practical terms, unallocated gold is comparable to putting dollars, pounds or euros into the bank. Once deposited, the money becomes fungible—you can withdraw the same amount of money you put in, but you will not receive back the same exact bills that you deposited. The use of unallocated gold allows for amounts smaller than a gold bar to be used as collateral between counterparties—a significant benefit to a collateral program given that a London Good Delivery bar weighs 438.9 ounces, and gold is currently trading for over US$1,700 per ounce.

  • Transparency: Readily available price information promotes market transparency and aids in daily mark-to-market and margin calculations. Gold is priced by the market twice daily (morning and afternoon) and widely reported by both the financial press and data vendors. Use of a predictable daily price fix point allows counterparties to mitigate their daily exposure and set haircuts to manage ongoing price fluctuations. The afternoon U.S. Dollar London old Fix is viewed by market participants as the appropriate way to mark gold given daily price fluctuations and increasing values.
  • Ease of transfer: The London Bullion Market clears daily using paper transfers that evidence the unallocated gold held between members. This allows them to simply and efficiently settle mutual trades and transfers to/from third parties while mitigating the costs and risks associated with physical movement of bullion. The use of paper transfers and unallocated gold facilitate easy transfers between counterparties when needed.

And speaking of JP Morgan, incidentally the subject of this post, what do we know about their London-based gold vault services? Once again, in their words:

J.P. Morgan recently integrated its gold vaulting service in London with its tri-party collateral agency service.

  • J.P. Morgan operates one of the two largest commercial gold vaults in London (one of only six in the City) and is a member of the London gold clearing system.
  • J.P. Morgan is also one of the few truly global providers of collateral management services. As collateral agent, J.P. Morgan works with two parties that have an established collateralized lending or financing arrangement.

Who is the other largest commercial gold vault in London? Why HSBC of course: the bank which has recently been embroiled in virtually every scandal involving global money laundering, also happens to be the custodian for such massive (supposedly) physical gold repositories as those of the SPDR Gold GLD ETF. The HSBC gold vault is also known as "Gold's secret hiding place" as CNBC penned it, when Bob Pisani was allowed to take a look deep inside the vault's bowels but only after he was theatrically blindfolded (a visit which we commented on at the time).

Yet Pisani's blindfold, while theatrical, was premeditated: the number of people who know where the HSBC vault is located is a handful, because the last thing commercial gold vaults, and certainly their customers, would want to deal with is a Simon Gruber-type Die Hard 2-style goldjacking.

Amusingly it was none other than the Bundesbank who in November invoked the ghost of the fictional New York Fed gold heist when a member of its executive board told NY Fed's Bill Dudley that  "you can be assured that we are confident that our gold is in safe hands with you. The days in which Hollywood Germans such as Gerd Fröbe, better known as Goldfinger, and East German terrorist Simon Gruber, masterminded gold heists in US vaults are long gone. Nobody can seriously imagine scenarios like these, which are reminiscent of a James Bond movie with Goldfinger playing the role of a US Fed accounting clerk." This happened two months before the Bundesbank diametrically (and embarrassingly) flip-flopped and decided to, all pinky swears to the contrary, begin repatriating its gold from the New York Fed (and Paris) after all. But not London (at least not yet). It also perhaps means that the days of Simon Gruber may not be "long gone", especially if the whereabouts of vaults containing billions worth of gold bullion were known to the public.

And just like the SPDR would want nothing less than to have the address of the HSBC gold vault made public (the same goes for HSBC of course), so those other ETF providers who use JPM's London gold vault as a custodian, such as Blackrock's iShares IAU ETF, or ETF Securities, would want nothing less than to have the location of JPM's vault exposed.

Needless to say, the actual addresses of "LBMA Vault" provided by the LBMA in its Annex 2 for "The Good Delivery Rules for Gold and Silver Bars" lists the headquarters office of the vaulting firm, and certainly not the actual address, because it would have been somewhat disingenuous to blindfold Pisani just to deliver him toe 8 Canada Square, or the HSBC head office in London, the address provided by the LBMA as vaulting address of HSBC. And certainly the address given for the JPM vault at 125 London Wall, aka Alban Gate, which was the firm's headquarters until its move to 25 Bank Street in 2012, is the last place even one bar of gold would be found.

Which is why we were quite stunned to find, in the deep recesses of the internet (and hosted by the Indonesian stock exchange of all place), a trade ticket from May 26, 2011, issued by the Perth Mint of Australia to Avocet Gold Mining (a West African gold miner), in which the Mint confirms its purchase of 2,126 ounces of gold at a price of $1,526 for a total transaction price of $3.246 million.

What is notable about the trade ticket is the additional information provided for the account clearer, in this case, none other than JPMorgan Chase Bank NA, London, as well as the number of the Gold Account held by said clearer: "No. 01380" but what is by far the most interesting, is that the actual physical address of the JPMorgan facility is provided: 60 Victoria Embankment, London.

Ladies and gentlemen: we may just have uncovered the actual location of the ultra-secretive JPMorgan gold vault in the city of London.

Where is 60 Victoria Embankment, London? See below:

The building's southern/river face is the glorious facade of the City of London School which occupied this location from 1879 until 1986 (and which is currently situated just east of here along the Blackfriars Underpass, next to the Millennium Bridge).

As the map above shows, it is a rather sizable building, located just off the Thames river and steps away from the Blackfriars Bridge, whose official designation until recently was Morgan Guaranty Trust Company of New York, Ltd, a remnant from the firm's merger with Guaranty Trust Company in 1959 (recall that JPM was called Morgan Guaranty Trust until 1989).

A cursory media search about the otherwise very nondescript looking building at 60 Victoria reveals that it had been fully leased by JP Morgan as long ago as 1991. What is more interesting, is that the property had previously been bundled as part of a high-profile commercial mortgage-backed securities, or CMBS, deal called White Tower 2006-3. The deal consolidated properties formerly owned by one-time London real estate mogul, Simon Halabi, one of the financial crisis most notable falls from Grace, who had an estimated net worth of $4.3 billion in 2007, and in April 2010 was declared bankrupt, and whose current whereabouts have since been unknown.

White Tower 2006-3, most infamous for being the first CMBS deal to be placed in liquidation after the start of the currency crisis, held a variety of properties near and dear to JPMorgan's heart, first and foremost 60 Victoria Embankment, the 420,000 sq ft of office buildings fully let to JP Morgan Chase; but notably Alban Gate, the 382,000 sq ft office property located on London Wall in the heart of the City and fully let to JP Morgan Chase. The latter also was JPM's UK headquarters until last year.

What happened next is interesting: in July 2010 Carlyle bought the bulk of the "White Tower" asset portfolio from the defunct CMBS, paying some £173 million for the 60 Victoria Embankment location. Three very short months later, none other than long-time 60 Victoria resident JPMorgan bought the very same building from Carlyle for a whopping £350 million: a transaction which doubled Carlyle's money in an unprecedented three months! At the time the now former CEO of JPM's investment bank Jes Staley (and who currently works for BlueMountain - the same fund that made a killing by squeezing none other than JPMorgan's London Whale traders), said, "These properties are long-term investments and represent our continued commitment to London as one of the world's most important financial centres." Frank Bisignano, chief administrative officer, added: "These properties are among the most attractive pieces of real estate in London. These buildings ensure that our employees will have the necessary technology, infrastructure and amenities to take our businesses forward." Curiously, JPM showed zero love for its Alban Gate location, which it promptly departed to go to its new Canary Wharf HQ, and Carlyle was forced to pull the sale of this property a year later as it did not get enough satisfactory bids.

A pressing question remains: why did JPM, a long-time tenant of 60 Victoria not submit its own bid for the location it knew it would end up purchasing outright in a few months from Carlyle anyway? Why overpay by £177 million in exchange for merely having one more middleman do a three-month transaction? We hope to find out.

Yet what is very clear is that there was something of far greater value to JPM at the 60 Victoria location than at its old headquarters.

What that "thing" may be, and what is the missing puzzle piece in this story, comes from a very peculiar article written nearly four years ago in an Abu Dhabi/Arab Emirates website titled TheNational, titled "Mystery gold cargo linked to Saad, Gosaibi feud", which described just that - the fate of a series of very peculiar gold shipments, the key of which once again involved the two main abovementioned players: Perth Mint and 60 Victoria Embankment.

We repost the entire story below, while highlighting the key parts:

The Qantas freighter QF71 that took off from Perth Airport on November 3 last year bound for London would not have attracted any special attention, despite the fact that it was carrying 1.2 tonnes of gold bullion, then worth about US$28 million (Dh102.8m).


Perth, in Western Australia, is home to Australia's Gold Corporation Mint, where bullion is processed and turned into standard 12.5kg bricks. From there, the ingots are shipped daily around the globe to vaults in America, Europe and Asia, evidence of the world's apparently insatiable appetite for the precious metal. But what made this shipment unusual was that it was the first of 15 such cargoes, of varying quantities and values, which over the next seven months were eventually unloaded mainly in London. Smaller amounts were also delivered to Dubai and Zurich.


The total value of the bullion exported in these operations approached $430m at current market prices, and it weighed 10.4 tonnes. The other distinguishing factor was the identity of the recipients, or "consignees" as they are known. According to documentation seen by The National, they were all companies associated with the al Gosaibi family of Saudi Arabia. The al Gosaibis have since fallen out spectacularly with their partner, Maan al Sanea of Saad Group, in the biggest corporate scandal to hit the Middle East, leaving about 120 banks worldwide with debts estimated at up to $22 billion and a decreasing likelihood of getting their money back.


In a global hunt for assets to offset their losses, the banks have looked into every corner of the Al Gosaibi trading empire and the Saad Group controlled by Mr al Sanea. A small army of lawyers, forensic accountants and corporate investigators has been hired to track down assets over which the banks believe they have claim. They have turned up property, financial investments, relatively small amounts of cash and other baubles of the wealthy, such as aircraft leases. There was even a private zoo. But the most curious discovery so far is the Gosaibi gold.


Perhaps the most remarkable fact about the shipments is that although there are detailed and specific records of them having taken place, neither party in the al Gosaibi-al Sanea confrontation seems to lay any claim to their ownership. Each side denies it was responsible for the shipments. Despite being regularly ranked among the world's billionaires, neither the family's controlling partnership, Ahmad Hamad Al Gosaibi and Brothers, nor Mr Al Sanea's Saad Group has any previous known involvement in the bullion business.


The first shipment took place just as the world appeared on the verge of financial meltdown last November. They continued until May, when the crisis in the two Saudi families exploded into the public domain after they failed to make repayments on loans associated with their banking businesses in Bahrain. The shipments reached a peak in late February and early March, just as tensions within the al Gosaibi family intensified after the death of Sulaiman, the family patriarch and chairman, on February 22.


One shipping document shows that, the following day, "a shipment of 21,500 fine ounces of large 12.5kg gold bars, minimum 99.5 per cent purity" was sent from AGR Matthey, a well known Australian bullion dealer, from Perth Airport via Singapore to London's Heathrow. From there, the bullion was moved to the vaults of Standard Bank of South Africa, located in the London offices of JPMorgan Chase at 60 Victoria Embankment, Blackfriars, London.


The shipment was marked "London good delivery", meaning it met the internationally recognised standards for bullion delivery and could be deposited alongside bullion of the same quality. The Standard Bank account in which it was deposited was in the name of Al Gosaibi Trading Services, one of the companies owned by the al Gosaibi family. But financing such a transaction - the gold was worth about $20m - is a complicated process.


The usual procedure is for the consignee to arrange a letter of credit with the supplier, which is then guaranteed by a bank. In this case, the letter of credit bears the reference number "Awal 157". Awal is the Bahraini bank owned by Mr al Sanea, but which is now in the administration of the Bahrain Central Bank. Ten of the 15 shipping documents bear the Awal reference, while the rest have reference to "TIBC", The International Banking Corporation, the al Gosaibis' Bahraini bank which is similarly in administration.


It is common practice in the trade finance business for those letters of credit to be separately financed by a third party, such as an international bank. This is what happened with the Gosaibi gold. The amounts paid for the bullion were drawn down from lending facilities with these global banks but those borrowings have not been repaid, banking sources say. International banks, so far frozen out of the settlement process in Saudi Arabia or offered derisory amounts by the feuding families, are keen to track down the location and ownership of this bullion, to seize and offset against debts owed them. While most of the bullion ended up in London, two shipments went to other locations.


Also on February 23, some 629kg of "London good delivery" were shipped from Perth on Singapore Airlines flight SQ226/SQ490 to Dubai International Airport. The shipment was delivered to the Brinks Global Services facilities at the Dubai Airport Free Zone, marked for the attention of: "Malcolm Clingham, for account of Al Gosaibi Trading Services Ltd." Again, the financing reference was "Awal 158". Attempts to reach Mr Clingham were unsuccessful. An employee of Brinks in Dubai said he left the company about four months ago.


The other non-London shipment took place on April 29, when 689kg of gold left Perth on Singapore Airlines flight SQ226/SQ346 to Zurich in Switzerland. The shipment was marked for delivery to: "UBS AG Zurich, for account Standard Bank PLC." Although no named consignee account was mentioned on the shipping document, the financing reference was "TIBC 438". The final shipment to arrive in London took place on May 6, when 722kg was placed on a Delta Airlines flight DL94 in Salt Lake City, Utah, in the US. This was marked for the Al Gosaibi Trading Services account at Standard Bank at the JPMorgan Chase building in London. The financing reference was "Awal 177".


So while there is plenty of evidence that the gold shipments took place, there is huge uncertainty about who initiated them, who owns the bullion, and even where the gold is now. The company named as the bullion account holder, Al Gosaibi Trading Services (ATS), is a wholly owned subsidiary of Bahrain-based Al Gosaibi Investment Holdings (AIH), based in Bahrain which is in turn owned by three family members. But the management control of ATS and AIH is in dispute.


In a legal filing in New York, John D Potter, a former general manager of Al Gosaibi Investment Holdings, declared that: "Mr al Sanea exercised complete control over the operations and activities of AIH, to the exclusion or virtual exclusion of the other directors and the shareholders." Lawyers for Mr al Sanea, the London firm of Harbottle & Lewis, declined to comment on the gold shipments. But sources close to the Kuwait-born financier have denied he was involved in the transactions.


Creditor banks, which asked to remain anonymous, have told The National that their inquiries to Standard Bank in London have not so far produced any positive indication of ownership of the bullion, or even confirmation that it is still in Standard's vaults. Through its South African head office, a spokesman for Standard Bank said: "Our executives in London are adamant they cannot comment - not even off the record - as this would be a breach of client confidentiality."


Whoever ends up owning the gold from Perth will at least have made some money out of the Saudi confrontation, which has affected the kingdom's economy and stock market, and ravaged the balance sheets of regional and international banks. The gold price has risen by nearly 50 per cent over the past year. The shipment last November, worth some $28m when QF71 took off from Perth, is now valued at $42m - wherever it might be.

Courtesy of TheNational, we now know that one of the key features of the building at 60 Victoria is that it houses at least the vault of the Standard Bank of South Africa: in other words, somewhere deep underground, there is, indeed, a major gold vault. We also know, that after leasing this location for nearly two decades, JPMorgan decided to take the plunge and bought it outright in 2010, in a transaction that as shown above was a scramble to park cash and to procure the property for sale. In other words, JPM now has sole custodial possession of all the vaulting services offered under its 60 Victoria Embankment address.

So is this where the legendary JPMorgan London vault is located? Certainly nothing short of Blythe Masters admitting on live TV that yes, this is where one of the two largest commercial gold vaults in the UK is located, and as JPM admitted previously, only one of only six commercial vaults in all of London, there will be speculation and one can't be certain.

However, a quick cursory virtual trip around this building using Google's Street View feature shows that this building, barricaded on every side by a dense forest of bollards, is as protected from outside interest (especially of the automotive kind) as any modern day fortress.

The building's entrance on John Carpenter street, just north of Victoria's embankment - bollards everywhere:

The building's reinforced back/delivery entrance: corner of Kingscote and Tudor: barriers, a reinforced gate with a screen on top of it, and even more bollards which surround the entire building and prevent the parking of any cars in proximity to the building:

And finally, not one, but two rows of bollards, cordoning off a 60 foot area in the street on both sides. South view:

And north view:

Needless to say, no car, or any other potential threat, can enter that ~60 foot space from either side.

Is that where, dozens of feet underground, the world's most secretive commercial gold vault is located? Just below what was once the main campus of the City of London School for boys.

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Update: a quick Google Street View trip around the block from the main JPM entrance to Carmelite Street, just south of Tudor Street, or here...

... reveals the following armored Brinks trucks waiting:


In front of an even more impressive looking gate:

h/t Ro


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Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:36 | 3250116 maxmad
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My guess is that it is full of pieces of IOU paper... Ala Dumb and Dumber

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:39 | 3250125 THX 1178
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Naw, when the shit hits the fan they are very close to the sea... for a fast escape.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:58 | 3250162 Mr Lennon Hendrix
Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:07 | 3250200 dick cheneys ghost
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Nice blog..........look forward to reading more!!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:12 | 3250212 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I am honored.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:23 | 3250238 knukles
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If y'all check out Google Earth, find the address, reference a street view, cross check it against a map of the City (Corporation) itself, you'll find the vault is indeed located within the "Square Mile" of the City, thereby offering and affording the City's protection for Infinite Rehypothication.


Sat, 02/16/2013 - 19:08 | 3250335 bank guy in Brussels
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Also where a prominent international banker was found hanged, alleged 'suicide', many think a bankster murder:

As Tyler's great article says:

« ... a rather sizable building, located just off the Thames river and steps away from the Blackfriars Bridge ... »

Where this happened:

« 1982: 'God's banker' found hanged

The body of a top Italian banker has been found hanging from Blackfriars Bridge in London.

 Known as God's banker for his links with the Vatican, 62-year-old Roberto Calvi was ... a central figure in a complex web of international fraud and intrigue.

He had been missing for the last nine days before his body was discovered by a passer-by hanging from scaffolding on a riverside walk under the bridge.

Police are treating the death as suicide ... »

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 19:31 | 3250380 TruthInSunshine
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If you even suggest that there's something "not quite right" about the facts surrounding the death of "God's banker," people either 1) don't have a clue what you're speaking of (which is applicable to approximately 99.3% of people), or they 2) think you're a "conspiracy theorist" for that mere suggestion (in the rare event they even know anything of the matter).

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 19:58 | 3250427 eatthebanksters
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The JPM repository for their honey dumpers...the only thing in that building is years of Jamie Dimon shite.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 21:16 | 3250533 ACP
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That second row of bollocks has a gap a car could drive through, which entirely defeats its purpose. Someone forgot to mind that gap.

And there is the old-ass Low Lever Intercepting Sewer nearby also, which would really stink up the place if it just happened to get clogged.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 21:33 | 3250559 nmewn
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I was thinking the same thing...certainly hope they have rows of bollards down below ;-)

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 22:00 | 3250600 ACP
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Maybe...I personally wouldn't place a vault in an area like that! ---that is, assuming there's actually a vault there.

An excerpt from an historical site:

The total area of the land reclaimed from the river amounts to 37¼ acres. Of this, nineteen acres are occupied by the carriage and foot ways, eight acres are devoted to garden, and the rest has been conveyed to the Crown, the Templars, and other proprietors along the line. Within the Embankment wall, and forming a portion of its structure, is placed the Low Level Intercepting Sewer, which is an integral portion of the main drainage scheme. Above it is a subway for gas and water pipes, the dimensions of the subway being 7 feet 6 inches in height and 9 feet in width; and the diameter of the sewer varying from 7 feet 9 inches to 8 feet 3 inches. These are both situate under the footway next the river. The footways are paved with York stone, with granite curb.

To the east of the Temple the roadways are carried over a double covered way, belonging to the City Gas Company, and leading to a landingwharf, by which coals can be conveyed from the river without interference with the public traffic. At this point, moreover, the subterranean engineering has been of extreme complexity; the sewers, the Fleet ditch, the subways, the Gas Company's railroad, the public railway, and a variety of gas, water, and telegraph pipes, being interlaced in a way that almost defies description.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 23:56 | 3250754 Pinto Currency
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When the 101st Airborne land in London, they'll now know exactly where to go to get America's gold back.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 00:02 | 3250760 Lore
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What is it about rats and tunnels?  And isn't there some historical connection between rats and disease? 

Fascinating read. Somebody has done some digging. Ahem.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 00:25 | 3250785 buryfarmer
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Sun, 02/17/2013 - 00:36 | 3250791 Pinto Currency
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Sun, 02/17/2013 - 01:56 | 3250842 TruthInSunshine
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Food for more intellectual straining:


1) Knights of Malta (aka "Black Nobility")

2) Vatican gold holdings

3) Italian Government's clash with Vatican on "financial matters" recently

4) German lawyer Ernst von Freyberg's appointment as president of the Vatican Bank

5) 2012 Moneyval Audit of Vatican

6) Blohm + Voss Industries GmbH

7) Ettore Gotti Tedeschi

8) Banco Ambrosiano (and Franco Ratti, nephew to Pope Pius XI, Roberto Calvi...hmmm...Corriere della Sera...Banco Ambrosiano Holding)

9) Vatican's insistence that Pope Benedict To Preserve Immunity, Security By Remaining In Vatican After Resignation


Can anyone connect the dots, if there's some sort of pattern here, or is this all random "consipiracy stuff?"

I'll be the very first person to acknowledge I have no specific or firm notion of what's happening and why regarding the Vatican, JPM's alleged gold repository in London, events in Italy vis-a-vis the Vatican's "banking arm" lately, the rest of points 1 through 9 above, nor world social/economic/financial events of late, but to deny that world events are getting very much more strange with increasing velocity lately is to deny reality.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the new strategies of obfuscation is to overwhelm the masses with reams and reams of information, scandals and such...

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 02:15 | 3250866 prains
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add in north korea going bonkers and china/japan doing the "wanna fight" two step and you're right, the plan is to go information overload at some point

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 02:45 | 3250886 TruthInSunshine
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I regret posting that 9 point list now, because I've just read this ZH article for the umpteenth time, and as such articles go, no matter how well or poorly they're done, I admit that my first instinct is to try and NOT immerse myself in the specific, substantive points being made, because it can get a little overwhelming to do so at times.

As it turns out, this one is well-done, even if no one ever discovers the factually concrete whys, hows and whats (but maybe they will), and I find the chain of ownership of the building and its previous & successive owners (and prices paid as well as intermediary brokers and law firms involved) to be fascinating (since many of them are the face of the known or presumed global elite).

This article is like a train wreck, but in a good if even distressing way, in that the more I resist looking deeply at it, the less resistance I can muster, and the more deeply I look at it, the more intriguing it becomes, because there's so much genuine mystery with just enough factual support to not be able to dismiss some of the darker implications one could possibly be tempted to take away after reading it thoroughly.

At times like these, one realizes the profound truism contained in the saying "ignorance is bliss," as ignorance becomes a tempting alternative comforter, and turning a blind eye to it all seduces as the obvious and easy way out for the intellectually and morally lazy.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 03:06 | 3250898 prains
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sounds like you need season 3 of the walking dead to take your mind off things


if bliss was truly to be found in ignorance then evolution would have made the COW the preeminent mammal, so it appears that molecular biology wants more, although looking at american politics it seems uncertain.

there's a large number of people being run by cows these days.


unfortunately the only way to solve a cow epidemic is with an abattoir and we all know how that the hand is stacked to the one country with the most cows.


Sun, 02/17/2013 - 03:10 | 3250899 TruthInSunshine
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I am distracting myself momentarily by writing a fictional Hollywood screenplay whereby Simon Gruber successfully inflitrates this structure from the Thames River approach, which is the most vulnerable portion of the building from a security standpoint, especially since ill-gotten treasure looted from within it can be loaded onto waiting immersibles, fast boats & other vessels, and since this vulnerability renders the apparent expensive and elaborate security measures employed on the non-river facing sides of the building somewhat meaningless.

Of course, JPM or the bona fide owner(s) of the precious metal within would probably plan this operation WITH Simon Gruber, since there are probably 800 non-overlapping insurance policies covering theft, and split up the insurance proceeds amongst each other after the "staged heist" was accomplished.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 03:15 | 3250907 prains
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Yeah there was a wooden horse once which went with the same idea, the city faded into myth, and centuries later untold millions were spent to justify its actual existence when it was long forgotten. its amazing how the cirlcle never ceases to churn out the same result. fuck you have to hate a cliche.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 06:46 | 3251015 BaBaBouy
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Unbelievable, Butt No-one Should Be Surprised...


This is the murky world of GOLD Money Trading, the ONE AND ONLY 8000 Year old World Currency.


I Postulate that most every billionaire has a stash of GOLD.

Anyone in the know is in the Game.

And This While the SMALL FRY Investors are constantly discouraged by the media to own any GOLD.


For me all indications are that GOLD Price will EXPLODE, and Major Players like JMP being involved in such a Profound way with GOLD just adds more PROOF TO THE PUDDING...

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 08:29 | 3251043 francis_sawyer
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 "Of course, JPM or the bona fide owner(s) of the precious metal within would probably plan this operation WITH Simon Gruber, since there are probably 800 non-overlapping insurance policies covering theft, and split up the insurance proceeds amongst each other after the "staged heist" was accomplished"


You forgot the part where Bibi comes out and has 'proof' that the heist was masterminded by the Iranians... blows a bugle charge, then turns to his American cavalry & says "go get 'em boys" [while he cowers behind a tree]...

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 10:37 | 3251128 HoofHearted
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I'm thinking, "Road trip, bitchez. And bring those AR-15s while you're at it." Everyone grab what they can and run like hell. See you back here at ZH when we're all done. 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 15:47 | 3251607 I think I need ...
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Sun, 02/17/2013 - 18:18 | 3251834 dick cheneys ghost
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Sun, 02/17/2013 - 03:46 | 3250927 ACP
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Or, if I may indulge (for present-day terror tactics)...a well-funded terrorist organization pulls over a "tourist bus" just outside the first row of bollocks, whereupon a group of 20 terrorists pours out into the alley, armed with AK-47s. They need foot soldiers because the bollocks block entry. Four of the terrorists are suicide bombers with explosives packed with radioactive material and kitchen utensils and line up against the entrance of the building (the revolving door) and their suicide packs are remotely detonated to ensure they all explode simultaneously.

The others stream in, killing everyone in their path, until they reach the vault (insert solution to any internal protocol here) and when they reach the vault, they start fires with incendiary devices hot enough to melt the gold and just before they all die from smoke inhalation, they all detonate dirty bombs strapped to their bodies, which will cause all the gold to mix with the radioactive material, making the gold extremely difficult to salvage. The entire area is then cordoned off and the cleanup - which will take years to complete - and the resulting disruption to the world's gold supply, cause economies all over the globe to engage in increased economic warfare and throw the world into a harsh depression which causes WWIII.

How's that for a screenplay?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 04:32 | 3250947 TruthInSunshine
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Damn fine. But this isn't a credible "staged heist" unless there's a lot of explosions, shrapnel, a high body count, and most importantly...cow bell; lots and lots of cowbell.

So I'm diggin' it so far, but it's going to need more cowbell, if you want me to be perfectly honest.

Now that flushed me out in terms of my surprise, I was going to have Jamie Dimon BE Simon Gruber, with one of those fake faces featured in movies like Mission Impossible, and Blythe Masters could be in on the scam, too, but she'd wear a Greenspan mask, and act all frail and in illness at hospital (where she'd plot escape routes using GPS and drones for Simon Gruber...errr...Jamie Dimon wearing Simon Gruber's face).

The best part is that Goldman and Blankfein are like, totally into this, so they get ObaMao and Placeholder to authorize Goldman's prop desk permission to train on and then use armed U.S. drones to strike British Law Enforcement vehicles and personnel - boom, I just kicked up the cowbell with hellfire and sidewinder U.S. missiles fired by Goldman traders (and interns, 'cause shit's gettin' real). AND THEN - the double Jedi mind fuckery - The Honorable Jon S. Corzine pulls up in his submersible, and Jamie Dimon hands him a fresh 4 or 5 billion in precious, which he tucks away into the bowels of his submersible, closes the hatch, and slips away into the night, just like Corzine would do in real life - but we don't know if he splits this "take" with his old employer, Goldman Sachs, as he was supposed to do, and that could be a mystery for the sequel.

Anywhooo. That's where my partial script is at. Maybe it needs more cowbell.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 07:42 | 3251030 I need more cowbell
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You have a fever? Anyway, ask and you shall receive.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 14:44 | 3251507 zerozulu
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From security stand point "no gold" is best strategy.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 03:15 | 3250908 zhandax
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At this point, moreover, the subterranean engineering has been of extreme complexity;

Who needs complexity?  You notice that garbage truck sitting in front of the loading dock, complete with nonchalant-looking municipal types just waiting for it to back in?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 15:47 | 3251608 jumbo maverick
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This was a fantastic article. The people that read this article on this website are probably the only people that will ever read it or have any knowledge of it-ever.

But it will be articles like this, weather there is truth to it or not, that will eventually get the internets shut down. These types of articles make people think. That is dangerous. I don't know if this story is true or not but what I do know is that the older I get the more I find fact is stranger than fiction.

The one thing I took away from this article, I knew it before but this article cemented it for me was that unless you have it in your hand all golds are unallocated.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 05:51 | 3250991 Karl von Bahnhof
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The Vatican = new Lybia?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 10:29 | 3251123 tip e. canoe
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tasty sidebar to your list:

JP Morgan Chase (JPM.N) is closing the Vatican bank's account with an Italian branch of the U.S. banking giant because of concerns about a lack of transparency at the Holy See's financial institution,

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 11:14 | 3251156 Disenchanted
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TIS said:


"Can anyone connect the dots, if there's some sort of pattern here, or is this all random "consipiracy stuff?""


You must be a kook too... ;)


‘Those who believe that major world events result from planning are laughed at for believing in the “conspiracy theory of history.” Of course, no one in this modern day and age really believes in the conspiracy theory of history -except those who have taken the time to study the subject. When you think about it, there are really only two theories of history. Either things happen by accident neither planned nor caused by anybody, or they happen because they are planned and somebody causes them to happen. In reality, it is the “accidental theory of history” preached in the unhallowed Halls of Ivy which should be ridiculed. Otherwise, why does every recent administration make the same mistakes as the previous ones? Why do they repeat the errors of the past which produce inflation, depressions and war? Why does our State Department “stumble” from one Communist-aiding “blunder” to another? If you believe it is all an accident or the result of mysterious and unexplainable tides of history, you will be regarded as an “intellectual” who understands that we live in a complex world. If you believe that something like 32,496 consecutive coincidences over the past forty years stretches the law of averages a bit, you are a kook!’ (Gary Allen, None Dare Call it Conspiracy, 1971, Chapter 1)

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 11:41 | 3251187 francis_sawyer
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All I know is that Juice haz nuttin' to do with anything... 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 07:02 | 3251000 Disenchanted
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ACP said:


"and the rest has been conveyed to the Crown"


The "Crown" does not refer to the Queen of England or other British/English Royalty...



Henk Ruyssenaars' article on July 10th 2006 drew attention to the book "Descent into Slavery" by Des Griffin in which the real meaning of the term "City of London" is explained. The following is an excerpt from that article:


"To the majority of people the words "Crown" and "City" in reference to London refer to the queen or the capital of England.


This is not the truth. The "City" is in fact a privately owned Corporation - or Sovereign State - occupying an irregular rectangle of 677 acres and located right in the heart of the 610 square mile 'Greater London' area. The population of 'The City' is listed at just over four thousand, whereas the population of 'Greater London' (32 boroughs) is approximately seven and a half million.


"The Crown" is a committee of twelve to fourteen men who rule the independent sovereign state known as London or 'The City.' 'The City' is not part of England. It is not subject to the Sovereign. It is not under the rule of the British parliament. Like the Vatican in Rome, it is a separate, independent state.


"The City", which is often called "the wealthiest square mile on earth," is ruled over by a Lord Mayor. Here are grouped together Britain's great financial and commercial institutions: Wealthy banks, dominated by the privately-owned (Rothschild controlled) Bank of England, Lloyd's of London, the London Stock Exchange, and the offices of most of the leading international trading concerns. Here, also, is located Fleet Street, the heart and core of the newspaper and publishing worlds.



edit: btw JPM = Rothschild Agent from it's very beginnings.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 08:35 | 3251046 francis_sawyer
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oh but no... JPM are a bunch of evil episcopalians... [lol]

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 15:16 | 3251168 TruthInSunshine
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As to the claims about phsyical infrastructure difficulties regarding building an underground vault and metal transport mechanism system, these are other ZH'er posts about interesting recent events that appear later in this thread:

Critical Path

Prediction and Performance of Ground Response Due to Construction of a Deep Basement at 60 Victoria Embankment - 1991

"A 19m deep excavation for a complex L-shaped basement was carried out using top down construction techniques...."


Stuck on Zero

The question posed is:

Why overpay by £177 million in exchange for merely having one more middleman do a three-month transaction?

The answers seems obvious.  £177M would just cover a massive vault and security system  Anyone check building permits for the time?

Oddly.  There seems to have been a massive "archaeological" excavation at this site:


Troy Ounce

"A 19m deep excavation for a complex L-shaped basement was carried out using top down construction techniques...."


And the Underground line City & Waterloo which runs next to the building directly to the Bank of England is 18 M deep. must be a coincidence?




Sun, 02/17/2013 - 17:07 | 3251727 just-a-girl
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It is also interesting to consider the fact that the location (60 Victoria Embankment, London) is so close to a large water source (the Thames river).  I am sure that the security systems include the ability to flood any vaults.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 13:18 | 3251339 JR
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Spot on, Disenchanted.

One wonders if central control ever transferred from the City of London “to the ascendancy of the US in the 20th century.” And this JP Morgan item has an interesting bearing on this “transfer.” G. Edward Griffin explains in his book that J.P. Morgan’s roots actually are an extension of the Rothschild empire. And from every indication this London control center, the Rothschild empire, still operates.

As Griffin wrote,“a major portion of the wealth and power of the Morgan firm was, and always had been, merely the wealth and power of the Rothschilds who had raised it up in the beginning and who sustained it throughout its entire existence.”

J.P. Morgan, Sr. “appears to have served as a Rothschild financial agent.” Also, Morgan’s London-based firm was saved from financial ruin in 1857 by the Bank of England “over which the Rothschilds held great influence.”

The interesting connection here is the Saudis and the Carlyle group – connected with the Bushes. One wonders what the tie is to JP Morgan – or does it all lead once again to the worldwide powers of the Rothschild operations. At the very least, the Carlyle group and others are tolerated and cooperated with by the Rothschilds.

The truth is that the stranglehold of these bankers on the US currency and US free enterprise is destroying the American system that now provides the foundation for these snakes. Does anyone believe that the City of London (the Rothschilds) could go to China and set up a “Chinese” Central Reserve System owned and operated by these international bankers? No!

These bankers moved from Europe – London – to take on the U.S. and have nowhere to go from here. “Don’t fight the Fed….” “Why fight JP Morgan Chase”….. means “Don’t fight the Rothschilds.”

Meanwhile, economic conditions in America have deteriorated to such a point that people would be starving in the streets if it weren’t for a wealth redistribution from taxpayers to the 47 million people on food stamp relief. Not only that, but with a situation far worse than the Great Depression this rogue government has decided to move in even more people from Third World countries to add to America's welfare rolls.

And, sure enough, along comes Fed Governor Janet who wants even more taxpayer stimulus to "create" jobs while her fellows at the Federal Reserve continue to seize the wealth of and destroy America’s middle class.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 14:08 | 3251405 TruthInSunshine
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I'm not going to "get into" the JP Morgan "speculation" (the man, not the company, and his public will and what was stated within it), but I will merely add that I find it at least curious that the "Arab Spring" has been encouraged by the U.S. and her allies in MENA nations OTHER than Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, et al., where it appears that the U.S. has helped to nip, rather than foment, any revolutionary dynamics in the bud. It's interesting, at the very least.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 14:18 | 3251461 francis_sawyer
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The Rothschilds, failing central banking, are dallying with 'weather control' in China... There's more than one way to skin a goy cat...

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 16:37 | 3251691 Cathartes Aura
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one need only put "Rothschild China" into a favourite search engine to see how deep the stranglehold actually is.

Vatican City ("created" in 1929), The City of London, & the "federal" Distict of Columbia - little corporate HQs laundering "monies" globally.

business as usual.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 18:02 | 3251810 RaRaRasputin
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Tensions in the Rothschild house it would seem:

By way of sub-plot, they have hired Rothschild Group, the investment bank under the French branch of the family's influence, to work to defeat Rothschild, a fifth-generation member of the UK side of the dynasty.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 18:06 | 3251818 HamFistedIdiot
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I have heard that Obama bowed to the Queen of England when he visited her. The Queen, reportedly, bows only to the Mayor of London, and has done so repeatedly. As David Icke says, the City of London, with its blue bloods, human sex traficking, quadrillion+ derivatives, et cetera is ground zero for this planet's evil, the center of the spiderweb.I would like to see the US military level the whole fucking place.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 20:01 | 3250431 Irelevant
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If of 99% 15 percent get it you become a great danger to the bankers.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 20:11 | 3250447 ihedgemyhedges
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This post is why I read ZH. This post is also why you have to be careful as to how you access ZH.

Great work TD..........

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 07:46 | 3250477 Looney
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Sun, 02/17/2013 - 13:16 | 3251338 fockewulf190
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John Carpenter Street. Appropriate.  I wonder if there is a nice sized parabolic antenna on the roof sending out signals ala "They Live!"  trying to convince people to sell gold and silver and to buy stocks.  Can´t fool me though, I got a pair of truth glasses thanks to Roddy!


Sat, 02/16/2013 - 23:51 | 3250738 wee-weed up
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JPM -> Bernanke -> Obama -> Drone -> ZH

Be carefu, Tyler!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 23:33 | 3250714 booboo
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and just for fun I listened to Catherine Austin Fitts talkng today about the sudden departure of the Pope and how the Vatican is the latest victim in the rebalancing of the financial powered. Seeing as the Vatican has enjoyed a nice ride on the backs of the peeps in the last several centuries it is really hard to call them victims but with their confessional booths they had a pretty good file on everyone up until the spooks could listen to everyones personal calls, the Vatican lost its leverage and their gold too I suspect. I think this runs along the same lines as the House of Saud getting shoved off the main stage and having its pockets picked by JP Morgan. Better keep your kids savings account at home because these guys know no bounds.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 00:14 | 3250770 cornflakesdisease
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Can you let me know the link to that?  I want to listen to that.  Appreciate it very much, booboo.  Thanks.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 09:30 | 3251080 booboo
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Unfortunately it is a pay for service site, but has a good blend of fringe and practical "living through the re-balancing" type information.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:21 | 3251232 11b40
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Did she also talk about pedophilia?

"Well, for once, the guy might not get off easy. The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and state calls upon the Italian President to deny help to Ratzinger, and to “not collude in criminality. Let’s just hope that Napolitano does not cave. However, there may be another avenue to make sure the Pope is brought to justice if the Italian President does cave.

It seems that in addition to these alleged attempts by this European government to prosecute, a New York based organization, The Centre for Constitutional Rights, has accused the Pope and his Cardinals of possible crimes against humanity for sheltering pedophile priests. The non-profit legal group has requested an ICC inquiry on behalf of the Survivor’s Network, citing the church’s “long-standing and pervasive system of sexual violence.”

Apparently, the Vatican has no comment. Well, of course it doesn’t. It knows that Ratzinger and his henchmen are guilty, and now they are just scrambling to save face and save his keister from jail. Shame, since that is exactly where he belongs.

The thing is, this institution knows no bounds when it comes to protecting their own, no matter how heinous the crimes. Anyone not living under a rock knows that the Pope and his cronies have abusing children for decades, and likely centuries. The thing is, they are just the biggest example of religion getting people passes. Shameful, but true. All those of us with a sense of justice and conscience can do is hope that one, if not both, of these attempts at legal action is successful."


Just search pope + immunity before you start flaming this post.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 16:53 | 3251714 Cathartes Aura
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the Vatican assisted with the cultural rules, via religious stories of obediance, and fines for dis-obediance, whilst simultaneously corrupting the rules via their uniformed holies globally - see such as Magdalene Laundries:

After more than seven decades of exploitation and a 10-year struggle for justice, Ireland on Tuesday admitted its role in the enslavement of thousands of women and girls in the notorious Magdalene Laundry system, but stopped short of issuing a formal apology from the government.

and the massive sexual abuse of children - anyone who doesn't understand the role of abused children embedded in cultures globally, carriers of shame, pain, hatred - both of self and others - isn't connecting the obvious dots. . .

so you've got the cultural shapers, the City of London for the cultural money skimming, and the military enForcement arm'd from amrka - pretty much a functioning loop, eh folks?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 14:41 | 3251502 zerozulu
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Probably POP resigned when he learned  there is no gold in Vatican either.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 17:58 | 3251811 sgt_doom
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I'm not criticizing ThruthInSunshine, simply taking this opportunity to point out where the term "conspiracy theorist" originated:  in CIA Document 1035-960, disseminated in 1964 in response to the outcry against the godawful crap, the Warren Commission Report. (thanks to a FOIA request from the NY Times in 1976)

For a more concise explanation, please see Lance deHaven-Smith's most excellent book, Conspiracy Theory in America.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 20:52 | 3250500 CH1
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Also where a prominent international banker was found hanged, alleged 'suicide', many think a bankster murder

Yup, I thought the same thing. Weird things happen among the chief sociopaths.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 02:55 | 3250887 JOYFUL
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Good catch...and with the Vatican Bank in the loop, at last all the pieces are lining up .... [The Military Link to the New Vatican Bank Chief Ernst von Freyberg]


Thyssen\Krupp...Carlyle...the Saudi go-betweens... an Australasian refinery...the Swiss gnomes...Indonesian stock plays, and the City of London School for boys. All of which ingredients can now be combined into the toxic alchemic brew which puts the lie to Tylers' overbold assertion that

"Nobody can seriously imagine scenarios like these, which are reminiscent of a James Bond movie with Goldfinger playing the role of a US Fed accounting clerk."

...because only by realizing that Flemings' 'fictional' phantasmagoria was actually a detailing of the intricate network of international criminal players which would come to rule our world in the C21st -not a work of the imagination, but rather, the distillation of his acquired knowledge from time spent within the British intelligence service - can one come to grips with the present moment....

in which...the Bushey Bandit(aka 41)has been eliminated, the Ratline Pope has poofed, proof of pedophilic proclivities has reached to the highest levels of Anglo-Merikan society, the French have re-entered Afreaka in a desperate search for King Solomons' Mines(and the means to stave off implosion of Credit Lyonaisse etc.)the Saudi sheik princes have been sundered from their mortal coil by a reborn Nizari Ismaili assasination squad, an Austrialian senator by the name of Nick Xenophon* has been arrested and deported from Malaysia (, Nat Rothschilds has resigned as a director of the soon-to-be blowed up real good Barrick Gold[Herve to JPM's Ricardo Montalban!]...

and S.P.E.C.T.R.E is finally exposed for what it always was - a joint Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst\Mossad black-op which now controls the western world. 

Goldbugs will shake in terror when mention of the obvious elephant in the room is made - all of the "Black Gold" that all of the above were involved in the slow but steady laundering into the system of -(yes David Guyatt's work will all be vindicated...and more!) - but it's really just good news in disguise....

there really is a mountain of stolen shiny stuff out there in the jungles of Borneo, waiting for it's day of redemption...but it's full recovery and placement with the proper owners will not derail the coming upwards re-evaluation of gold\ means simply that instead of the absurdly high $55,000\oz some are holding out for, we will have to live with the more modest(and quite realistic)$5500. Hey, just get over it!

*classic Salonikan Sabbatean cover for the crypto in every can o worms!


Sun, 02/17/2013 - 09:51 | 3251096 spankfish
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For some reason I want to throw the "bull shit card"... this was to easy.  Found on the internet?  How convenient.  By the way the address is not a shipped to address.  Just a JPM address... maybe.  The building smacks of less than no security.  London is camera city.  Where are the security cameras?  I don't think this is a "hide in plain sight" deal.  Security guys love gadgets, even the exmil types. They are creatures of habit.

"Which is why we were quite stunned to find, in the deep recesses of the internet (and hosted by the Indonesian stock exchange of all place), a trade ticket from May 26, 2011, issued by the Perth Mint of Australia to Avocet Gold Mining (a West African gold miner), in which the Mint confirms its purchase of 2,126 ounces of gold at a price of $1,526 for a total transaction price of $3.246 million."

What about Avocet?

I got to many questions to list here.  Not buying it, unless I can hold it.  Beer, women, precious metals... get it.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 13:15 | 3251336 FEDbuster
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Check for tungsten shipments to nearby electroplating businesses. 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:35 | 3252143 caconhma
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Any fiat comes to the end (sudden and substantial loss of its value) when there are no takers willing to accept fiat in exchange for underlining hard assets. This goes for US$ (as the reserve currency) or gold or any other hard assets.

Speaking about gold, the paper-gold system collapses the moment when holders of fiat paper-gold become concerned about security and/or value of their paper-gold holding and want to exchange their paper-gold for physical gold. This exchange process cannot occur due to the nature of fractional fiat creation when fiat paper-gold quantity enormously exceeds the amount of physically available gold assets.

At the moment, China reluctantly supports fiat US$ since this reserve currency is used by Chine to acquire hard assets (oil, gas, copper, and other commodities). At the same time, the use of US$ heavily taxes China's economy. Consequently, China intends to stop using US$ in their foreign trade.


Sun, 02/17/2013 - 13:27 | 3251352 Bunga Bunga
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The "Square Mile", isn't that the place were even the Queen can't just walk in?

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:32 | 3250260 francis_sawyer
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Just put in a call to 'Pussy Galore's Flying Circus'... [Pussy owes me a favor]...

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:40 | 3250281 old naughty
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Pussy's still around?

As I recall, she was over 40 in the 60s.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 19:07 | 3250330 Manthong
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I don’t understand why there is any concern at all for a barbarous relic that is of such little value that it drops in dollar value and get dumped whenever there is controversy or concerns in the market, either good or bad.

All the banks should be forced to sell off whatever physical inventory they have to remove this undependable distraction with little practical commercial use from the financial markets.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 19:15 | 3250334 TruthInSunshine
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This is possibly where some of the bodies are buried, but it could all be purposeful mis/dis-information, also.

At any rate, and I hope I say this as the rational person that I think of myself as, I see stranger shit happening at a quickened velocity with each passing day. The cognitive dissonance is glowing like red hot embers.

Viva la Zero Hedge. Gird, disperse & protect thy servers & encyption methodologies.


Sat, 02/16/2013 - 21:20 | 3250540 I_ate_the_crow
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Hey TIS why don't you do everyone a favor and grow up

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 23:07 | 3250681 TruthInSunshine
Sun, 02/17/2013 - 02:18 | 3250869 prains
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how'd you get an "access denied" account?????????????????????


nicely done

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 08:53 | 3251054 SilverIsKing
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Is Simon Gruber the younger brother of Hans Gruber? Or is it Grüber?

Curious minds want to know. Actually they don't but I figured I'd ask anyway.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 01:03 | 3250815 Curiously_Crazy
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ZH has many. As an example:


traceroute: Warning: has multiple addresses; using

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 03:24 | 3250911 prains
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yes rhetorical it was crazy_one but the force is strong in you

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 20:14 | 3251994 smacker
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IP addresses:
  1. IP adress:
  2. IP adress:

Hosted in Switzerland. Mirrors elsewhere maybe, I dunno.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 19:52 | 3250417 kliguy38
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I put you on my list and hope that helps

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 13:30 | 3251360 AlltheWine
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Silver's going so much lower before year-end...


Sun, 02/17/2013 - 18:07 | 3251816 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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And what?  The dollar/euro/yen are going higher?


Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:15 | 3250217 I think I need ...
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cnbc showed a russian oligarch the other day park is giant (worlds biggest yacht in downtown NYC) they bragged it even had a defense system. They said his wife was pregnant and maybe checking out hospitals to have the kid born. My first thought was he was just picking the rest of his physical gold up before this whole thing implodes either at the ny fed or taking whats left of the GLD.

I googled him and the day before he had cut ties with his Barrick gold project.  Just amazing

The miners have not much gold left and with the higher prices of fossil fuels will cripple them in the future to easily get any out.

They took everything


Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:51 | 3250302 macholatte
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They said his wife was pregnant and maybe checking out hospitals to have the kid born.


Great.  Another anchor baby.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 20:32 | 3250474 CompassionateFascist
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Not really. Automatic dual-citizen: America/Israel. As usual. And by the way, the amounts of gold referenced in this article are relatively small. Since the Golden Rule is He who has the Gold rules, and currently the Jew Rules, I'd hazard a guess that most of the American and European gold is by now safe and sound in Israel...stacked up next to the nuclear weapons depots. 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 00:08 | 3250766 Lore
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Would you use a repository in the Middle East at this point in world history?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 11:12 | 3251154 reload
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but this "J.P. Morgan recently integrated its gold vaulting service in London with its tri-party collateral agency service."

would have me seriously worried.

Physical possesion / clear title of assets outside banker playgrounds, or......pooof its gone.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 13:07 | 3251327 disabledvet
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while an interesting primer on banking history i think the only important aspect to this article what you've just pointed out here "reload" namely...JPM's role as a "collateral agency service." This actually IS a "code word" for something important...and that something important is called GOVERNMENT. You have to understand just how tiny JP Morgan's bank was at the end of World War II to understand how important the "Morgan Guarantee" purchase was back in the 1950's. As you can see Morgan and London were for intents a purposes "one and the same" since the creation of the bank back in the 1850's. Having said that the USA was an economic collossus in the 1950's...but JP Morgan was at best a "mid level bank." It needed to bulk up...and bulk up it did by buying Morgan Guarantee...a bank far larger than itself. And what exactly did that bank Guarantee? And answer is "sovereign debt obligations." Going back even prior to World War I when the USA was on the gold standard and Jay Gould tried but failed to corner the gold market "all that gold ended up in JP Morgan's vaults for a song." This made JP Morgan EASILY one of the most powerful men certainly in financial history...and certainly in American history. And what did he do with all that "lending capacity"? What any smart banker would do: he lent to Governments. Sure...the interest rates were low (though amazingly enough not as low as they are now) but the return was spectacular and it provide a truly awesome base of capital from which to TRULY "rehypothecate" one's gold. Fast forward to 1906 and "Morgan is too powerful" after the collapse...and saving of Wall Street by him personally (again buying up basically the totality of Wall Street this time for a song.) So the Government in effect "took" his gold away by forming the Fed and put all money printing backed by gold dollars in the hands of a "Federal Reserve Bank" thus turning the banking business not into a "place of names" anymore but a "numbers racket" where one scheme after another all "games the system" but in effect is just another way of "taking money that isn't yours to begin with." (Madoff being the latest and most spectacular.) JP Morgan...through Morgan Guarantee bought BACK it's "Government lending business"...and a very good business it was after World War II and the need to rebuild Europe. It's certainly an intersting theory that "here's where all the Morgan gold resides." But modern banking is such that there are many other assets besides gold that must be resided"...and i think it a more interesting thing to ask that question namely..."where to the CDO's and CDS's reside" as these instruments control the fate of entire nations "backed by the full faith and credit of a American war machine" i might add. I will say this if we are on the verge of a MASSIVE price collapse in the Western World gold will certainly re-asserts itself in its rightful position as "top of the monetary pyramid" as simply put "it will not deflate like the rest of the so called assets" that modern media has spawned and spewed forth oh these many years now. We shall see of course. The USA makes fine products now too...not the least being amazingly automobiles..."the gold standard" as it were of that asset class. Amazingly they spent most of their industrial lives making junk's only in the last twenty years that has changed. The irony of it happening "when the world appeared to be running out of oil" should be lost on no one. Amazingly we're about to hit with not just an oil and refined product GLUT but a NATURAL GAS glut as well. "stay tuned" with where this US Army starts to move. "Where it goes the gold money goes as well."

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 13:23 | 3251344 Jim in MN
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Dancing on the head of a the middle of a graveyard.  While stark naked and declaring the finery of their outfits.

This is JPM, in reality.  And the rest of the scum global elites.

However, the weapons are real.  So....point taken, and nicely made.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 00:37 | 3250792 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ I think

Anecdotal data point, and only that:

A guy I know (noboby big, kind of low in the food chain, but still...) said that physical gold is VERY HARD to find now.  I presume he means in large quantity, but I was with others at dinner so did not get the chance to ask for details.  He may have meant that the "We Buy Gold" business is not getting much as well.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 07:44 | 3251031 Seer
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"They said his wife was pregnant and maybe checking out hospitals to have the kid born."

Yeah, and then they'll put a "baby aboard" sign on the yacht and we won't be allowed to ram them! (and we'll end up swerving out of the way... only to have a fucking boating accident!)

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 19:23 | 3250362 PacOps
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Okay. Today I once again did my part with enough to cut the states take out of the equation.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 05:45 | 3250985 Seer
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Then that would be pretty stupid of them- don't they know about gold and "boating accidents?"

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:45 | 3250142 sunnydays
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Full of paper piled high with numbers on it, to know which tungsten bar goes where when they swap paper for tungsten.   


Awesome find ZH!  Now we can see where they hide their gold.  I bet JPM won't be happy this is published and public knowledge now!  I would love to be fly on the wall when they go ballistic about this being on the internet!  Great Work!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:47 | 3250147 Turd Ferguson
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Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:03 | 3250184 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Hey if you ever want to interview me on how I came up with the "Crash JPM - Buy Silver" movement in April of 2010 on Zero Hedge (7 months before Max Keiser took the idea when Mike Krieger told him about it) and why it would work, I'm down.

I know you and Andy are trading silver and stuff but if you really want to be a part of a movement that takes down the system, hit me up, you have my email.

This goes for you too, Tyler.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 23:47 | 3250736 Cosimo de Medici
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You seem to be painfully desperate to be a somebody.  If you really believe silver buying can destroy JPM, then just take comfort in the fact that someone who does have an audience already got the word out.  Also, if somehow JPM falls and the Great Reset comes, you're not going to be named King, and Lauren Lyster isn't going to pant for your manliness.  Sorry.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 10:24 | 3251117 Ignorance is bliss
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I have been reading Hendrix for a while. There is nothing wrong with seeking acknowledgment for original ideas. I find his posts and blog to be thoughtful and informative.

When the crash comes I will make Lauren my road warrior queen.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 17:56 | 3251785 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You know what?

Fuck you.

First, like is said above, there is nothing wrong with me stating the truth of the matter, that I (with the help of many here) formed the original Movement.

Second, I was ok with Max using the idea, in fact I thought it was the greatest thing ever, but it is pretty hard hearing "Lago" Max squawk about how great his idea is over and over.  And here is the thing, Max announced that he would be using the movement on the Alex Jones Show.  Alex asked him where he got the idea...Max ignored the question.  Alex interupted Max's ramblings and asked him again, where he got the idea.

Max replied, "I heard about it from my friend Mike Krieger who heard about it on Zero Hedge."

But then Max continued to call it his idea.  Look, there is nothing wrong with questioning our leaders, and Max it turns out is a duche.

Third, if you think I am making that statement so to be King of the universe, you forget who I am.

Do you know who I am?

No, you don't, because I write under an alias.

So go judge someone who cares.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 09:46 | 3251090 unrulian
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crashing jpm by buying silver may be a way to convince a few sheep to buy silver but i'm afraid it's got about the same chance of doing so as running for the cure will beat cancer

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 16:07 | 3251639 logically possible
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Can only agree, JPM can be short and long on any given day, and come out a winner no matter what the direction of the market.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 17:42 | 3251788 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Not unless they have the physical bullion. 

And I understand it is a long shot, but what other proactive stance are we taking?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:23 | 3252087 unrulian
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none...everyone is basically trying to protect themselves and their families the best way they doesn't amount to much of a collective stance but hey....i'm doing my part...if 2% of people are buying silver and the mints are barely keeping up all it will take is 5% of the people to start buying to really cause a problem, i just doubt that problem will hurt jpm...i wish it would, i just doubt it

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:06 | 3250194 Midas
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Somewhere Jim Willie's heart is starting to beat a little faster and spittle starts to form at the edges of his mouth, the twitching, the twitching....

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:10 | 3250208 dick cheneys ghost
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I really enjoy J Willie............wish he was discussed more here at ZH.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 21:24 | 3250542 Pseudo Anonym
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pfft, hardly ever does j.willie get anything right. his timing is so off it's ridiculous.   gold never drops, always goes up, any minute now, for sure, yep, spoon and handle, yep, yep, going up. same with silver. if it goes down, it was a take down.  any wacky theory he presents is always through his "secret" contacts that he cannot reveal.  but we should trust him that he has the ear of insiders.  come on.  j.willie speculates.  he doesnt investigate. it's all doubly removed and distorted hearsay intended to entertain.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 04:47 | 3250961 JOYFUL
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...hardly ever does j.willie get anything right. his timing is so off it's ridiculous...


Up until the moment they finally got their winged-thing to stay up in the air, I imagine much the same was said about the Wright Bros...

Jim's extraordinarily prescient tracking of the predicament which has\is\will be-fallen\befalls\befall the formerly first world has become the bell-weather for those who need to know what's in store for the future...

your pathetic blathering, on the other hand, distinguishes you only as yet another in the myriad masses of roadkill on the highway of history. Good night.


Sun, 02/17/2013 - 06:27 | 3251005 toothpicker
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pfft, hardly ever does p.anonym get anything right 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 20:38 | 3251757 Pseudo Anonym
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i doubt your wish will be answered

I really enjoy J Willie............wish he was discussed more here at ZH.

zh tylers rely on investigation and facts from credible sources they are not afraid to disclose in their findings.  that's why tylers wont touch j.willie w/ a 6 foot shit stick.  no doubt j.willie will harvest information from this post, including what others here discovered and contributed, and create his own 'fantascientifico' concoction which, of course, will rely on secret sources that whispered into his ear all kinds plots.  just wait.  and then there will be a chart of gold (to the moon); any minute know.  j.willie is like the broken clock that is still waiting to be correct.  but at least he puts a lot of enthusiasm and imagination into his international intrigues that for some reason just wont materialize.  not just yet.  but soon his machine will fly.  i think he's a good writer and should focus on writing novels, not econ. letters, with his type of imagination.  but, hey, that's just my opinion.  maybe his subscribers get more credible info as opposed to his wild theories that are distributed for free.  who knows...?

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:04 | 3250175 Shell Game
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The 7th RULE of Fight Club:  Fights will go on as long as they have to.


well done, ZH..

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:31 | 3250257's picture

And this ladies and gentleman, is what we call "investigative journalism". I know most of the fucktard sycophants out in the MSM world wouldn't know a fucking thing about that. Thank you ZH for being a shining beacon of rational thought and critical thinking. Kodos to you Tylers, well done good sirs.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 21:19 | 3250537 PSEUDOLOGOI

Bravo ZH!! Bravo!!!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:05 | 3250191 THECOMINGDEPRESSION

Its a box 12" x 12" stuffed with the Daily News

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:17 | 3250224 xtop23
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Transparency ...... lol seriously? Ask the sovereigns who have been attempting to perform a spot audit how transparent this market is.

Total clown shoes. What a joke.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 19:06 | 3250328 Stuck on Zero
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I've got it figured out.  I know where JPM has been sending the gold.  The address of ebay headquarters in the UK  is:


Sat, 02/16/2013 - 20:38 | 3250479 Squid Vicious
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Isn't the Blackfriar's Bridge where they found that Vatican/Illuminati "banker" hanging a few years ago?

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 21:43 | 3250577 kchrisc
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"Now that's funny, I don't care who you are."

Great scene when they show up at the hotel in the expensive sports car, and snow suits doling out cash like a bankster on TARP.



Sat, 02/16/2013 - 21:45 | 3250579 kchrisc
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Sat, 02/16/2013 - 21:53 | 3250592 fiddy pence haf...
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that's as good as money, sir. That's a ton of gold [shows an IOU]. might wanna keep that.

it's been rehypothecated 5000 times, but no matter.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 22:58 | 3250682 LongSoupLine
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Holy fucking shit Tyler.

This is fucking why I am loyal to this fucking brilliant website. This is the cutting edge, kick their balls into their fucking throat type of investigative journalism that we fucking need to get these tbtf fuckers out in the open so we can crush their fucking necks.

Bravo Tyler's. Bravo Zero Hedge.

Fuck you JPM and HSBC. You fuckers have been exposed. Fucking eat it you fucking middle class wealth destroying fucking shit eating pricks.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 11:57 | 3251211 The Gooch
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Fuckin' A, Soup!

Well played, Tylers!



Sat, 02/16/2013 - 23:10 | 3250693 ToNYC
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Those bollards are weak tortillas next to my vato's hydraulic trucks that only care about the space to fit one tire; mere thimbles they be.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 00:26 | 3250786 buryfarmer
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Sun, 02/17/2013 - 05:52 | 3250992 Seer
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So, if the tunnel is "closed on Sundays" does that mean that they can't do "God's work" then?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 10:59 | 3251146 tmosley
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I think they are doing someone else's work that day.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:18 | 3251246 Buckaroo Banzai
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Sunday is "rehypothecation day" in the church of Moloch.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 02:28 | 3250875 NumNutt
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ah who gives a shit anyway?.....We all know that gold is not money. Bernanke said so.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 16:17 | 3251656 Buck Johnson
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Your wrong on that count, for that much security for a non govt. place it says they do store gold there.  Also England isn't stupid and neither are her rich families.  The've been in this situation centuries before and now that cornering the resources is good when the currency goes down.  The Rothschilds essentially bankrupted England via sending false information about Napoleon beating the said british commander of a strategic battle but it turned out the opposite.  There agents bought up stock that was being sold and debt and such at very low prices.  Once it was found out the Royal family essentially threatened them with death and taking their money so a deal was made. 

Also in regard to the invoices and the people who signed for it or didn't it's one of three things.  One, the Saudi families are trying to hide assets pure and simple.  Two, it's the same as one but we are seeing how the process is done with the help of banks and such who do this thing for big clients for a chunk of the proceeds.  Or three, the one or two financial institutions are using people and organizatons stationary and information to move this stuff and when investigators look for it the run into brick walls and the only people who know are are sender and the receiver what the real accounts and information is.  An example is like a person saying that they sold 100,000 dollars of something but really sent out 1 million of product and the only ones who know is the seller and the buyer in a private off the book deal.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 20:42 | 3252024 kill switch
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It dont matter mister natural!!!!!

The real shit

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:36 | 3252178 Buck Johnson
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Someone deleted my comment so I will try to remember the comment that I made earlier.  I don't believe that there is any IOU paper in this place, since Britian went through alot of financial situations over the centuries her rich know that gold and resources is the key.   Also I believe that the issue with situation of the gold is one of three things.  One, the families are just straight lying and trying to move and hide their assets.  Two, it's a combination of them and certain banks that help in laundering who get a piece of the assets in helping hide the money and gold.  Or three, a handful of banks are using their customer information and past and present employ information to move assets and use these institutions and people as drop outs. 

Here's an example, I'm trying to move 20 million in gold to point A to point C.  I have make out all the paperwork that it's flying or sailing to this place and then final destination is said depository in country C.  But what If me the middleman and the final destination is in on the situation.  So instead of going to point C it went to point B.  Yes there's paperwork saying that it did what I described, but during the process it was moved out of the chain of custody and what truly happened is paperwork saying it went to C when it went to B.   And trying to interview the people and institutions in what happened they would say that it didn't happen and then your stuck with he said and she said.  And add on top of it the international banking system with soverign govt. and you have alot of anonimity.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:38 | 3250119 Tsunami Wave
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Phew.  Those people who lost their gold from MF Global can now get it back right?

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:40 | 3250127 OMG
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This can not be the correct location there are no  Illuminati symbolism present. WTF!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:52 | 3250304 francis_sawyer
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You actually think they'd hide their gold in a place called 'Biff's Pleasure Palace'?...

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 09:50 | 3251094 unrulian
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the Trailer Park Boys paved their driveway with hash.... so no one could find it

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 02:56 | 3250894 Rubicon
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Look closely at those bollards for your symbolism...!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:46 | 3250128 Yen Cross
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     I buy my Platinum from the Aussies.  []  I have another good dealer as well in Au.

  Here is a good shipper , In Aus. Express Post Platinum - Australia Post

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:42 | 3250131 Irelevant
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What is gold Mr. Morgan?

Gold is money and nothing else.

From the JPM himself!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:42 | 3250133 tom a taxpayer
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Has Pisani ever taken off the blindfold?

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 23:37 | 3250728 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Only during some 50 shades of grey type of thing.......

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:43 | 3250137 buzzsaw99
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a vault with "corzine was here" painted on the wall hahahahahaha!!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:44 | 3250138 Antifaschistische
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Much better....closer to mainland China.   Makes repatriation even easier.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:44 | 3250139 alfred b.
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      Even if it were the size of the Taj Mahal;  it could still be EMPTY.


Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:56 | 3250170 flacon
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But the Taj doesn't have bollards. It's the bollards that give it away. ;)

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 16:31 | 3251676 logically possible
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London has the pop-up bollards everywhere, in front of little alleys, in the middle of sidewalks, small driveways that appear to go nowhere. With that amount of razor barb, security guards  and security cameras, you know they all live in fear.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:01 | 3250177 scatterbrains
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Could this be where Libya's gold sits now ?

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:31 | 3250254 knukles
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Foreign national's gold generally is stored in the BoE (Where the Germans were told there was not room enough to be able to view the shit, but a day or so later was on the telly/YouTube with the Queen who is one of the biggest BoE shareholders visiting same, BTW) analogous to the NYFed holding foreigners bars in the US, not Ft Knox.... Yeah yeah, exceptions, etc.
BUT BUT BUT my little fellow hand wringing meiserly Scrooge McDucks, that IS one of the LBMA good delivery vaults in the City of London, so there may well be (or not to be) where the GLD holdings reside.
Or warehouse receipts therefore/upon/reach-around circle jerk stuff.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:02 | 3250178 debtor of last ...
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It's not empty. The Kings of phantom assets know when to make THE turn.

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 17:46 | 3250143 ShortTheUS
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Maybe some loyal ZeroHedge readers should amass and pay this location a visit one of these days...

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:19 | 3250230 tallen
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I think I've walked past here before, I'll cycle down sometime this week and have a bit of a look around. Maybe i'll see a Brinks van or two!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 18:54 | 3250310 francis_sawyer
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If you dress up like Corzine ~ maybe they'll invite you to tea...

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