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There Is A Winner In The Currency War

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With the G-20 (and G-7) concluding with what appears to be a slap on the wrist and a wink-and-a-nod to Japan, it seems the game of competitive devaluation will continue. Much pixel and ink has been spilled the 'potential' winners and losers in such an evolving game, but as Bloomberg notes, there has been one winner in the last 10 years each time the world has fretted over "currency wars". As fear (and actuality) of currency wars flares, the USD has borne the brunt of the buying. From 2004's JPYtervention to Mantega's 2010 comments and each time in between, when competitive devaluation is on the world's lips, then the USD is implicitly bid as the currency du jour is offered to any and every willing carry trade riderthere is. The trouble is - for the lowly US investor - each time the USD is bid, so the US equity market has hit an FX-translated earnings hump and fallen back. So while talking heads will exaggerate the nominal performance of Japanese and British equity markets as their currencies free-fall, perhaps the US investor should be careful what they wish for.

As the world's reserve currency, the effect of a devaluation of a non-reserve currency (i.e. everything else) is implicitly to put upward buying pressure on the USD...

 

and each time the "currency war" flare has occurred, this USD strength has led to notable US equity weakness...

 

so perhaps, all those 'interventionist' hopers should be a little more nervous about the apparent decoupling of the US market - as its rotation unwinds...

 

Charts: Bloomberg

 


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Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment edb5s
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Will be a great opportunity to buy the dip if this proves to be true!

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:39 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Wait for S&P 400.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:44 | Link to Comment philipat
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And here was I thinking that The Fed wanted a weaker Dollar?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Perseid.Rocks
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Indeed. A rising dollar causes GDP to collapse, making our debt/gdp ratio worse. Those g20 nations are actually enemies of our glorious state.

 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment MrX
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did anyone find a set of car keys?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:28 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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With the Yen at the bottom of Fukushima?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:58 | Link to Comment 847328_3527
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When the Yen drops to 120 to the dollar, I may don my Fuki suit and gonad shield and head over there for some travel.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:24 | Link to Comment Half_A_Billion_...
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1929 SHOESHINE BOY MOMENT:   "Kennedy later claimed he knew the rampant stock speculation of the late 1920s would lead to a crash. It is said that he knew it was time to get out of the market when he received stock tips from a shoe-shine boy."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy,_Sr.#The_Crash

 

2013 SHOESHINE BOY MOMENT:  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-08/friday-farce-16-year-old-outper...

 

 

1929 "Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." MOMENT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Fisher#Stock_market_crash_of_1929

 

2013 "Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." MOMENT: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-15/greenspan-ignore-economy-only-s...

 

THESE ARE CLEAR SELL SIGNALS; SHIT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWN.

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 02:03 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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(see below)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 02:02 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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"Hey, I hear Chipotle and AAPL are hot!"

Jimmy Cramer says buy.

I say sell.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:27 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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They are sell signals in real value terms, but I question the concept of shorting this market given USD dilution.  I think the $85 billion per month is just an appetizer.    

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:13 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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The Peruvian Sol was a winner this week, up 0.46% vs. the US$.  A poll...  Who is WORSE?  The Odious George Soros or the Loathsome Senator Harry Reid?  YOU tell me!

Review of Barron's -- Dated 18 February 2013

http://tinyurl.com/betzhjf

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:33 | Link to Comment Freaking Heck
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The only reason the USD is a beneficiary is depth of its market. The same is true of the Yen and Euro. When trying to move a $1B rapidly in ccy markets there are little choices. You have to look for the 3 ugly sisters and choose the least ugly at that particular time. On a % basis the small guy has a large advantage as we can allocate to currencies with less depth and or commodities.

Commodities of course don't provide the liquidity that currencies do. The lure of physical gold for example is inversely correlated to the liquidity being supplied by central banks. It takes a bit of time and effort to go through with purchasing physical..not so much with dumping Yen for USD or such.

Worth using the lull in the market and the noise around the edges, because thats all it is, to continue to accumulate.

This article is useful therefore I believe only for short term traders taking pips.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 00:00 | Link to Comment economics9698
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lol, good luck.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 08:29 | Link to Comment Wilcat Dafoe
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I...  I don't think this actually means anything.

 

Anyone else?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 00:08 | Link to Comment edb5s
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Thought this was obvious enough that I didn't need to use "/sarc." 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Deo vindice
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Obviously not obvious enough.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:30 | Link to Comment knukles
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That famous last word debate regarding off shore investments...
Hedged or Unhedged?

(well what's your fucking currency forecast or do you not do that... shut up and eat your peas)

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment kliguy38
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Yes there is and its the usual suspects. However, they will not be rounded up and when they're through, you'll be flushed six ways to Sunday down the proverbial shit hole. Say thanx to your masters. They've been at this for centuries.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Being Free
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Yes, precious, false! They will cheat you, hurt you, LIE

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment edb5s
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That first chart is really interesting, I'd like to add.  Thanks Tyler.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 There's is a winner in evolution... Just ask the dinosaurs?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:32 | Link to Comment knukles
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Well they ain't gotta deal with Global Warming or Peak Oil, lucky buggers.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:01 | Link to Comment Non Passaran
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It's rather peak warming and global oil. Relax.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:07 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Only the dead have seen the end of Global Warming and Peak Oil.

In fact, we should squeeze the dead, like olives, for any residual oil that can be extracted. Therefore delaying the inevitable decline in oil reserves by minutes if not by hours.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 01:48 | Link to Comment Lore
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Re: "Only the dead have seen the end of Global Warming..."

Huh?  Global temps have been falling for nearly 20 years.

Timing of the curve for Peak Oil is another plaything for natural born liars and can-kickers. 

"It doesn't matter what is true. It only matters what people believe is true." - Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace (link)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 07:13 | Link to Comment SunRise
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It matters most whether what you believe is true IS true.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 08:31 | Link to Comment Wilcat Dafoe
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Not really. 

Belief is a tool and it gets people to do all sorts of crazy things - like eating a piece of bread which is really the body of a god who died 2,000 years ago who was his own son and had to die to wash away the sin we are all born with because several thousand years back some slut ate an apple.

But what a racket Xianity is, eh?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:02 | Link to Comment Lore
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You're right. Greens don't see their religion as a religion, but that's what it is.

There is no knowledge - only justified belief, and delusions, and programming.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:37 | Link to Comment chump666
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The USD will and always be an inflation hedge (FX wars).  Since the whole world now is devaluing like mad. 

Finally we may have a top on equities (Europe and US), with Asia's euphoria trade bringing on the crash, sending us down the toilet.  Just like 1987.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:39 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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This is obviously the plan all along. Defend the DXY until new system is fixed in place. This is not happenstance..

It wont work. The USD is still pathetically weak with all this going on.. Look at last week, gold and silver, yet still failed to move the DXY over 81.
 
This is the final move for the Dollar, 82 perhaps but i doubt it will go above.

GBP is melting down as mentioned and GBP cross’ are copies of USD cross’ for the most part.

What is going to happen is the USD and Equity markets will top within 2 months of one another and decline together just as they were in 2007 before US/UK internationalised their crisis.

the "FX risk trade" will be desolved this year

 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:41 | Link to Comment I think I need ...
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Your right do you see that little head and shoulders at the end,,,,,get your crash helmets when valued in pms

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:37 | Link to Comment besnook
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russia and china just made a deal to conduct all business in yuan or rubles, no dollars. that should take some pressure off the dollar. maybe bernank is now counting on the demise of the petrodollar to make the s and p go to the moon.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:38 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Crash moth'a fuck'a, CRASH!

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:00 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Why does everyone want equity to crash?  Why not want fiat denominated currency to crash?

It is the fiat that backs the MIC controlled corporate system. 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:11 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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+1

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 01:57 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Because the equity markets are the gas gauge for the dumbfuck sheeple and MSM.

No, the tank is not full YOU STUPID MOTHER FUCKERS.

IT IS EMPTY!!!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 05:04 | Link to Comment Acet
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No, no, no - it's filled with unicorn piss.

It says so on the gauge marked S&P 500!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 07:26 | Link to Comment tradewithdave
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Maybe you didn't hear about the War On Currency?  It was in the news at least once recently.  With the medals finally decided on for the drone War on Terror and the War on Drugs finally settled in Washington State, then they came up with this idea for something Currency Wars.  It's not a war between currencies... it's a War on Currencies (i.e. a "currency war"), but not many people are talking about it because of something called "The Storage Wars" which is a Main Street minivan version of your highlighted Wall Street "The Equity Wars."  There was an obscure mention of "Currency Wars" by George Soros in Davos, but you would have to listen closely and be veeeewy veeewy quiet wabbit. 

In unrelated news Jim Rickards won the Guiness Book of World Records coveted prize for "Most stops on a book tour" (The Golden Stork Award) nudging out Nassim Nicholas Taleb's Black Swan in the Anti-Fragile Frequent Flier Over Fifty category. 

 

http://tradewithdave.com/?p=15440

 

 

 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment captain whitewater
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The main thing to remember is that according to Benny FED and CNBC et all no inflation exists anywhere on the horizon and precious metals are bad investments because Soros sold his positions...so don't worry about any currency issues.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:48 | Link to Comment captain whitewater
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But I did wonder exactly would happen when all that paper money the US printed and shipped overseas for reserve currency trade starts to come back home for a place to be spent?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:59 | Link to Comment Non Passaran
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It's not like there are tons of USD banknotes abroad, sitting and wondering where to go next.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:53 | Link to Comment Rick64
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 When the dollar is devaluated and other currencies are trying to counter that ( by devaluing their own currencies) with buying the dollar. Doesn't this create a demand for dollars which gives Bernanke the ability to print more without any immediate negative consequences. Its a balancing act between the debt and creating even more demand for the US dollar. IMO

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:55 | Link to Comment bigkahuna
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Its all good until...unga bunga

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:13 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The 2008 equity crash couldn't even bring forth the highs of 2005 for the dollar and the dollar chart only looks strong when Tyler uses red arrows pointing up around it.

And let's think outside the box for a sec instead of reading charts like a Robotrader.  Maybe the only way to support the ever inflating dollar is to make all of the other fiat devalue faster.

This of course means that as fast as the dollar is devaluing all the others are moving quicker.  This is a worst case scenario however, as all that happens is when reality is shone onto the Fiat Ponzi all fiat currency will be worthless.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:51 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Which means "your real winner is Treasuries"...and one look at that tape says "true." So if we are to ask the question "what is the message of that market" the answer better not be "I'm calling the low in interest rates cuz they've never been this low." It should be "what causes the lowest interest rates in history to begin with and does that matter?" I say "more than just QE causes those at or near zero rates" and "yeah what that more is matters a lot" since we are not financing this war with tax revenues but debt." There is something called "the crowding out effect" where basically "after we buy all those treasuries there's no money left over." That would include for example "to buy gold with." And if other prices start deflating as well then you could see a sudden spike in the savings rate...meaning even less money out there. With government now cutting back massively "we have less money there too." And then there's still all those taxes and a crappy recovery. Suddenly "there's a lot less for Mr Equity to play with" as "where are all those profits going to come from again?" The answer clearly is "I need to pay my people more" as Henry Ford found out. "I need someone to buy my product." We'll see what this week brings but it sure doesn't feel like Abbie Hoffman is getting kicked off the stage at Woodstock by The Who here. "These people want war and they mean business." With debt money this available and this valuable...what did The Bearded One say? "Kick the can"? That don't strike me as meaning immigration reform. "Just a major market sell off away"?

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:24 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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How are USTs the winner when inflation is giving them a negative real yield and inflation is also blasting their purchasing power?

And when people deposit cash in savings what they are doing is making a loan to the bank.  The bank will lend it out at will.  They will fractionally reserve it and put more cash back out into the system.  That is, if they want to.  If it will "stabolize" prices anyway.

Because that is what the communique from G-20 was based around; the goal is to stabolize prices.  What this means is they need to make it appear that prices are high so people keep wandering around in their PJs and continue spending their IRAs on cars and houses.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 03:11 | Link to Comment Raymond Reason
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It seems that we tend to look at the Weimar mark, or Yugo dinar, or Hungary's pengo, etc. to understand how the dollar crash will play out.  What if what we're about to go through is a system-wide collapse of fraud and control that's been in place for hundreds of years?  The banking bloodline dynasties aren't going to be able to play this to their advantage.  They won't let this good crisis go to waste, rather this crisis will lay them to waste.  The control freaks have lost control.  We're in uncharted territory, maybe i'm a fool, but i feel good about it.  Them buying a billion bullets for airport security fat slobs, means they're scared shitless, and everybody knows who they are now, thanks to the internet. 

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:19 | Link to Comment dragoneyes74
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The price action in siver and gold lately is why they are great to swing trade.  Granted, I don't understand WHY it's trading this way, but once you let that go, they're pretty reliable.  Once the sell-off from December's lackluster QE4EVA spike faded and turned silver into a textbook bottom divergence pattern in early Jan, you could count on it to go to $32, then it had to prove itself.  But it topped just over $32 and took a month to finish carving out a textbook wedge, broke down early last week and followed through exactly how it's supposed to.  It's quite obvious now that the metals are in a huge intermediate bear market that has no reason not to continue, with the only caveat being if the dollar starts to trend down, which I have been expecting, but as of yet to no avail.  I don't get it.  But I respect it.  Maybe it is the currency war thing holding the dollar up.  I have my eye on the lowest the Euro can go before reassessing my bullish bias as 1.32 on a closing basis, or wherever the uptrend line is from last summer when, and if, it gets there.  If that trendline breaks down, this "pullback"in the Euro could morph into a possible trend change.  I'd like for it to hold so the EURUSD can resume it's uptrend, which COULD help the metals fight the downtrend they are in since May and Aug 11, but they would need to break through a downtrend line of their own to change their downward bias.  Silver has a trendline that goes from $49 thru $35 thru $32.  Until that breaks, backtests and holds, silver remains bearish.  I would not be surprised to see $26 silver in the coming months, but it's all about those two trendlines.  

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:34 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I like how Master Traders always talk gold and silver in dollar terms.

Gold is at all time highs denominated in Yen.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:36 | Link to Comment mercy
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On a long enough timeline...

 

Nature will win the currency wars.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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The market correction has just been called. Blows dog whistle.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:44 | Link to Comment spinone
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The first graph shows a weak though significant correlation.  The second shows some correlation, but not a strong one.  So A=B and B=C so A=C is not a sure thing.  I think there is more to this than the simple two graphs show.

Don't let your need for a simple narritive mislead you.  Humans are suckers for a good, but misleading, narritive.

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:35 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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It's all of the need for humans to look for patterns and confirmations.   The whole theorem looks weak to me.

But what do I know....   I just buy silver.

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Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:01 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Next week is going to be U-G-L-Y. All the charts are doji shorts.  Oh,... forgive the ( geriatriac feuds)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 00:41 | Link to Comment Golden_Rule
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Its only logical that when people (re:banks) sell their stocks and "buy" dollars stocks will go down and dollars will go up...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 00:58 | Link to Comment steveo77
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Mon, 02/18/2013 - 01:27 | Link to Comment dunce
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There are no winners in a piss fight.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 09:34 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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I beg to differ.

 

The bookies (bankers) make out just fine.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 02:26 | Link to Comment Darth Mul
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You guys see this?:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/stanley-and-the-crazies/

Now - let me ask you guys also - what, exactly, would it take for you to begin to suspect that the United States government is controlled by inter-related groups which are mainly foreign in origin?

What level of ass-kissing would suffice for you to entertain the premise that international banks, and Likudnik Jews have got control of the United States political branches, and much of the intelligence services?

Keep chatting about what you'll do when they come for your guns in the meantime - you fucking idiots already lost.  You lost when you let them get away with 9/11, and you'll keep losing if you keep worrying about symptoms rather than disease.

By the way, Fischer gets in, the Israelis use the Americans to roll back Iran while they expel the Pals, grab some Lebanon, Syria and maybe Sinai  {"living space" you know}, then they pivot to China because we're on the right hand side of the curve and Iranian petrodollars don't matter - even if the central banks really intended anything other than consolidation and acquisition of real assets.

 

Yep - look for the Zionists to ramp up stealing tech and secrets to give to the Chinese very soon -  indeed, I suspect they have already...  any of you low level spook sell-out priorities-all-fucked-up-cunts recall those US missiles discovered in Finland being shipped to 'Korea'?   Awww, now you know that was Israel sending their future host some of those nice semi-effective missiles Uncle Same gave them, don't ye?  Yep - Israel can't wait to sell out the US to China, but first, it needs goyim blood and treasure to kill some more Muslim kids as the governments of the US, Canada, France, Britain, and myriad other lands become further enmeshed in the webs spun by the 5 largest banks, and "The Jews".

 

Iran and the false flag leading thereto....  whad do you guys think?

 

I think May.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 02:53 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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I think Iran isn't being very grateful to the US after the US handed Iran Iraq on a silver platter.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:16 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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Did you know it is illegal in Iran to import any barbie dolls or accessory products, or Simpson cartoon franchise toys? The middle east is carzier than a bag of cats rolling down a hill.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 03:33 | Link to Comment MedTechEntrepreneur
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Gee...another anti-Jew rant on ZH...by a goy who didnt get the grades the Jew did...pftpfttttt

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 09:04 | Link to Comment Wilcat Dafoe
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Khazar, I'm sure you mean anti-Khazar - no really, a leading scientician essentially proved this:  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130116195333.htm

I think it's cute that your response to a perceived racist post dealing in stereotypes is to assume that the guy is "another" non-Jew who didn't get the grades Jews do...   Sionce the irony escaped you, you're not that smart, therefore not a Jew.  Perhaps you're a Semite though - you know, like the Palestinians, who are the direct descendents of people who lived in 'Judea and Samaria' at the time of the First Kingdom  {that's a reference to Egypt, not to the mythical Israelite kingdoms}.

By the way, did you know that there were more Jews [Judeans] in Alexandria than in Jerusalem by as early as 400 BC?  How is it, exactly, you folks claim that 'Eretz Israel' - which was home to a great number of more advanced civilizations [see Joshua and Leviticus for a taste of how the Jewish god dispensed his "love"] - is your ancient home, and should properly be for Jews [Khazars] alone.. when Jews now claim, and have claimed the right to live anywhere they please for 2,500 years?

How.... is the gross ethnocentrism and double ethical standard in the Talmud - which I'm sure your playbook calls for you to 1] never actually read; 2] deflect any all criticism of the racism and hate therein as racist hate.  Hey, man - it's in there.  Some nasty shit is in the Koran, too, but no one calls you a "racist" for pointing it out.  For you and your ilk - criticism of Jewish hate, dual loyalty, or seeming penchant for dominating finance and media is not exactly 'false' {b/c, while overly-simplistic, it ain't} - it's just that you guys love having all this money and power yet still having the role of victim.  For fuck's sake, Hollywood has long been virtually a Jewish closed shop, and yet its always Jewish liberals praising multiculturalism and diversity.... but not in movies, and certainly not in leading federal agencies having to do with banking or finance  [SEC, CBO, CFTC, FDIC, etc etc etc].

Double ethical standards are the whole thing about Judaism as a religion, baby {I don't mean "secular" people who had a religious granny from Poland} - for truth, for justice, for mercy, and for loyalty. This is the thread running through the self-declared "chosenness".  The ethnocentrism precedes the anti-semitism, pal....  but the selectively sensitive hoi polloi let da teevee do their thinking for them, and the whole god-choo-choo-choosing-joos thing and making a contract of foreskin for {already settled} land - three times now -

 

It's like whining about the term 'Jewish Lobby' - Bill Kristol was so angered by this suggestion that mostly Jewish Israel Firsters dominate the US government that he orchestrated a giant smear campaign using the power of the ... Jewish lobby.. which ... doesn't exist.

 

And no media control either, eh?  Funny how the Hagel thing went from being about the Israel Firsters to the eee-vil Republicans  [who are, it seems, even to Bill Maher, controlled by Israel and its 5th column] versus Dems.  This way, the Jewish Lobby and its malignant power to warp US policy against US interests by conflating the two.. can exercise its vast and sinister power all while claiming it doesn't exist.. all while proving it exists over and over ad nauseam.

I mean - you're only fooling the already-fooled and your fellow brainwashed Jewish supremacist trolls.  So why bother with the lazy 'you're a nazi' stuff - particularly when you seemingly lack the wits to avoid being a fucking racist troll yourself, ya dumb racist troll!

By the way, you've been living a lie [so have the Xian Zio quislings...} 

This is short, and worth reading - and despite your limited faculties for gauging the varacity of claims, I daresay you'll find it hard to sleep well when you realize that the Jewish self-concept {like the self concept of many, and probably most groups} is, more or less, complete horseshit....  

The Way of the Rabbi -   Racism, intolerance and the Jews

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/chosen-people.html

You are brainwashed, but you can wake up, if you're willing to try, but you may be too brainwashed to be willing at all.  It's no skin off my ass, bro, but pardon me if I don't believe your happy horseshit nonsense about Jewish intelligence, history, or accept the notion that something is "false" or necessarily racist if it reflects poorly on the Jewish religion, or a {significant} minority of Jewish people, going back to and referenced by the Greeks and Romans, for fuck's sake.

At some point, jackass, it's not just that everyone hates you for no reason...  you just stopped seeing, or never saw the reasons...  perhaps made blind by holy scriptures that purport to make your particular tribe cosmic besties with a creator, and who gave you one set of rules for each other, and another for the 'goyim' you so clearly despise.

 

p.s.  I'm a 'halfsie' but prefer to consider myself Scottish.  The history is far less barbaric and the philosophers far less, well, obtuse, ethnocentric, and inane.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:28 | Link to Comment HeatMiser
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AMEN

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:20 | Link to Comment HeatMiser
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Thats how you try to explain it a goy who didn't get the grades a jew did. Jews aren't smarter or better. They have to rig the playing field to win. And by the way its not the JEWS its the ZIONIST. Try listening to Milo Peled he may help.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 09:23 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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Darth Mul:    "Now - let me ask you guys also - what, exactly, would it take for you to begin to suspect that the United States government is controlled by inter-related groups which are mainly foreign in origin?"

 

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And I say to you, why would I, or you, or any US citizen need groups of foreign origin to be causing such havoc against the American citizen? In other words, even without such foreign groups, the American citizen should be worried about American groups (ie the government) to control and do horrific actions against its own people.

 

The idea of foreign groups is sensationalizing a situation to create fear. And my point is that it is irrelevant because you should already have such fear of your government because of the actions and events occurring. And those actions and events do not need a foreign group.

 

 

 

 

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 06:47 | Link to Comment lickspitler
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listening to king world and zh it's like the  last days  in hitlers bunker.yes leader the jpm will be crushed and the gold price will rule again. unstack bitchez it's over

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 07:15 | Link to Comment falak pema
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the G20 believes in QE all over, as solution, + corporate Tax increases.

The effect of "currency adjustments" subsequent to QE moves by CBs is considered as side effect of MAIN CAUSE : CB QE to generate worldwide growth by throwing liquidity into pot.

We will see how this CB central planning based on unlimited central bank liquidity works out. US being vortex of this global play as home of reserve, maybe of the desperate "brave new unlimited fiat world".

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 09:16 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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Article: "As the world's reserve currency, the effect of a devaluation of a non-reserve currency (i.e. everything else) is implicitly to put upward buying pressure on the USD.."

Yep, and this is something I have suggested for months now and a major reason why PMs won't go ballistically high. It's because debts (debts and obligations worldwide are unpayable and exceed all the trillions printed), are US dollar denominated. And again, as disclosure, I do hold some PMs for the brief period of time I anticipate when the US dollar fails as the world's currency reserve.

What this means is that as debts need to be settled, it puts downward pressure on all other currencies and commodities while it puts upward pressure on US dollars. You have to have US dollars to pay your debts so you sell other things of value which include the goods you produce, your own currency and even commodities such as PMs.

 

Now we may see a few examples of localized inflation with nations that have done more to remove themselves from the global US dollar regime. But most nations play the global US fiat craps game. Thus they end up having to devalue their own currency as we saw in Venezuela. Or when they don't, the locals major companies go looking for US dollars instead of the local currency, as we are seeing in Egypt.

Both of those situations strengthens the dollar up until the point when nations get so heated in a currency (trade) war, that nations give up on the dollar. At that point, we might see a single currency backed by commodities of some sort.

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 09:20 | Link to Comment Smuckers
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The only thing of value with all these currencies, is the basket.

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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The Sigapore dollar is perhaps a long term hedge for value.

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